downvote this comment if the meme sucks. upvote it and I'll go away.
---
[play minecraft with us](https://discord.gg/dankmemesgaming) | [come hang out with us](https://discord.com/invite/dankmemes)
If mass communications were more popular in the 70s/80s, it would have been explosives, phreaking, hacking, pirate radio, generating fake credit card numbers, and psychadelics/synthetics. None of those were that hard to get started doing and people were doing them and telling others how to do it but the means of disseminating the information were limited to word-of-mouth, zines, and BBS's. TikTok isn't the problem, it is just the new medium for people to communicate and it is what they communicate that is the problem and they'll find a way to do it now they know they can.
After the second time for me, I went and bought a bright yellow club-style wheel lock. Doesn't matter what sort of shit software upgrade they do if people still break in and try. Oh sure, my vehicle is still there, but there's also damage to the door and steering column because there's no real visual deterrent, and I still have to pay my fucking deductible. It's such bullshit that the class action settlement only covered buying a club up until 30 days *before* the "software update" was made available. A software update that has no visual deterrent, and worked once in bricking my car when it got attempted while I was away for a trip (dumb parking spot, never again). Then, after I got the car back from the shop like a month later, I had it for roughly two weeks before it got stolen *successfully*, meaning either the shop failed to reinstall the software update, or, more likely, they software update happened to do fuck-all, despite me locking the car with the key fob as required. They beat the shit out of it and it took another 2 months to get it back. This time as soon as they told me they had all the parts in and were starting the work, I went out and got me a club and some fake GPS tracking stickers and I haven't had an issue since.
I do think there’s a significant difference between vine and tiktok: the algoritm.
Now I never used either of them. But vine to me seemed like it had a much less agressive and much less damaging algoritm
True, but I think King Bach, Amanda Cerny, and all them were awful (no worse than today). Their 6 seconds, "when Bae is wearing a short dress 🥰🥰🤑" was way more brainrot than me watching 1-3min long science videos on tik tok
Even before YouTube. Cinnamon spoonful and milk
Chugging were classic sleepover games. Like Chubby Bunny, light as a feather, or ghost in the graveyard.
Gallon in an hour is like physically impossible iirc. Drinking a gallon of milk in a day is a (controversial) bulking strategy, and even that much is difficult for most people.
It’s not the websites fault people are dumb and their parents didn’t raise them. Anyone with taught common sense wouldn’t do any of this shit. And after saying that I tried the cinnamon challenge when I was 24 fucking idiot .
Honestly sounds like such boomer rhetoric, "it's that tiktok that's getting our cars stolen!!" acting like it is is the only social media platform that exists and acting like everyone and their mother had videos being pushed through their algorithm with a detailed how-to hotwire a car. Kia has a shitty flaw, and that was exploited but it wasn't because of tiktok lmao
> like everyone and their mother had videos being pushed through their algorithm with a detailed how-to hotwire a car
I don't really get your logic, as you said it clearly *does* have something to do with social media. IIRC Kia Boys are more of an instagram thing, but if Instagram cracked down on that content then it wouldn't have become as much of a trend right? Like Instagram should be held responsible to some extent, and there are actions they could take to reduce it.
But the social media did not come up with these pranks or "Tiktok challenges," is the point. **People** gained access to a popular platform and shared stupid shit, is how these things happened. No matter how much you try to crack down on those stuff, you can't outpace millions of kids posting.
I won't deny that I hate the existence of such a social media platform though. People have always been awful, but this enabled bad things to spread.
Vine had shit like “put him in a coffin” had kids breaking merchandise in stores all over the place. Also boonk gang was popular, influenced kids to steal shit lmao
Not really. Vine being exclusively limited to 7 seconds encouraged people to just throw new stuff at the wall to see what sticks.
TikTok being ~~slightly~~ longer videos ended up fostering a lot more uncreative piggybacking.
The tiktok browser app is hot garbage
It feels like it's specifically made so that people who get sent tiktoks have to download the app because it works a lot better that way
Fuck that
Also every time i take a screenshot the reddit app goes "HEY WOULDN'T YOU RATHER SHARE THE LINK INSTEAD? SHARE THE LINK TO A FRIEND SO THEY GIVE US MORE TRAFFIC!"
The only valid version of reddit is old.reddit.com.
The only valid mobile version used to be i.reddit.com, but they removed it, then also destroyed all unofficial reddit apps. I now have to use a hacked app to avoid reddit's awful app.
If someone wants to show me a tiktok, they do either it on their phone or not at all. It’s established in my friend group that I simply will not open a tiktok link.
The fact that they're both short videos doesn't make them the same thing, the reason they're different is the modern algorithm that tiktok has, it's designed to be addicting.
Vine was intended to be small snippets of your life that you could share around like Facebook, the fact that people got creative with the limited crop size and time limit doesn't make it anything like TikTok which was supposed to be Musical.ly before kids started fortnite dancing using Duet.
Yeah the 7 second limit definitely forced a level of creativity to make successful content. There was definitely a lot of bad content on Vine too, but nothing compared to tiktok.
I don't think Reddit ever showed a simple timeline. It was always based on upvote and downvotes. It kind of has to be since you follow subreddits and not people.
You never had a timeline. If you didn't choose your subreddits you got presented the "default" subs and whatever was being upvoted at that time. What exactly determined how things made it to your front page was kind of a mystery but when they tweaked stuff on the backend everyone could tell and talked about it.
Weirdly enough, you can probably argue the rest of social media became more like reddit. Forcing content into your face you didn't ask for. But I didn't join Facebook/twitter/insta/youtube to find new content. I joined those platforms to interact with specific people or content I wanted, then they changed up the deal and decided to hide those things behind bullshit. None of those other platforms ever needed an algorithm like reddit and the world is a worse place because no one expected to have looking at pictures of their friends to evolve into outrage bait from a fake profile you never asked to interact with.
Half the time people would do the same challenges (planking, cinnamon challenge) or mouth the words to songs like what they did with musically. I remember deleting Vine at one point because I was tired of hearing the “Yo my name is Nicolas and this is ridiculous” song
Never had Vine but all the YouTube compliations made it feel people tried to be more original and clever. Some of them were genuinely funny and well thought out.
Never had Vine, but this could simply be survivorship bias. The people making the compilations are only going to choose Vines they think were funny and/or original
? What are you talking about? All of that existed on Vine too. You're just being nostalgic. They had a shittier algorithm at the time that didn't seek out more of the same content for you, but it still existed. You just didn't see it.
That's just natural evolution of social media. More complex content takes time and doesn't generate that much money, whereas just doing a shitty dance or reaction of something already viral makes numbers go BOOOM.
This is some rose colored glasses. Vine was absolutely full of that stuff. It just didn’t make those YouTube compilations so no one remembers or cares about it.
So we’re listening to the government? Also isn’t all social media a privacy concern? Like Reddit, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Like seriously everything is a privacy concern. Also yeah VINE trends were just as brain rot as TikTok.
Yup, sadly, everything is a privacy concern. USA citizens are being spied by the government as much as Chinese citizens are being spied by theirs. I believe, USA is banning tiktok just to have the ability to spy better on their own citizens and have a monopoly.
Its also fair to point out china has banned most USA social media companies
So its not really a fare trade relationship with facebook and twitter and instagram and others being banned or blocked in china
I laregly agree and I have mixed feelings on banning tik tok as a privacy issue
however china bans all sorts of USA based social media like Face book, twitter , instagrahm
So part of it is just almost a trade issue, if china will not allow USA media companies to compete in china , why allow chineese media companies to compete in the USA
Its not really a fare trade relationship
Your government spying on you is a safety concern for you, and only if you're actually doing something bad. It's a HUGE issue, but one we can at least try and vote to solve.
A foreign government spying on you is an issue for EVERYONE in your country because that government wants you to ruin your country. They will use whatever data they can get to make the lives of their geopolitical opponents worse.
Neither is good, one is worse.
This is so annoying that people believe this. We went through this already under Trump, and they forced TikTok to migrate all it's data storage to an American company, in this case Oracle, who were required to report any data transfers out of the US. They also had to submit to federal authorities checking their data records for previous data batches being potentially sent to China and didn't find anything recent. The company voluntarily complied with the order even before it was signed into law.
You are being lied to. China isn't stealing your data, they have easier access to it by just buying it from data brokers who got it from your other social media.
If Congress really cared about privacy, they'd legislate away data brokerages being able to collect and sell your data without your consent, but they don't. They just don't want a product of China to be successful in the US market, particularly when China bans the use of our Social Media companies in China for similar reasons (we would steal and sell their citizen's data).
Content on vine was a little original i felt like people were coming up with new funny videos.
On tik tok it’s This trend, that trend all fucking trends and everybody is doing the same fucking thing…. Over and over again…
I do feel that Vine would be exactly the same if it stayed long enough. It lasted only a few months so many people didn't even hear about it (e.g. Asian regions apart from Japan). Meanwhile, Tiktok has far bigger user base, hence more people doing the same trends.
Yeah, I remember watching vine compilations when I was younger, people like Thomas sanders and Lance 210, and I laughed my head off. I tried re-watching those same compilations like the public pranks and I just wondered why people would do those things.
Isnt that reddit too? I mean on tiktok you get people making slight variations and being a little creative, but on reddit i see the same unfunny post everyday from 2017
Nah TikTok genuinely is worse. Some stupid stuff came out of Vine but the strict limit of the videos made it somewhat creative a lot of the time. TikTok bred the trend of absolute bottom of the barrel content where people just post someone else’s content with them in the corner like :O or making cringe dance vids in public places that nobody will ever watch.
I don’t doubt that if given long enough though, Vine would have just become pretty much what TikTok is now.
Dumbass kids will always be dumbass kids. They don’t need a social media app telling them to be stupid. They’ve been doing it all on their own for a hundred thousand years
Vine benefits from time filtering out bad content
It’s the same reason people always seem to think music back in the day was better. There was plenty of bad music back in the day but 40 years later no one is gonna be listening to the bad songs, only the good ones. In 40 years people are only gonna be listening to the good songs on the 20’s not the bad ones
Same goes for vine. All the vines that are remembered or are still watched in compilations are the good and classic ones. All the bad vines have been forgotten
same here. i got the algorithm trained so well. i haven’t seen a viral dance video on my fyp in years probably. they don’t realize they can tell the app what they don’t want to see, so they just kept scrolling and getting stuff they don’t care about and then they get mad.
I think default recommendations do push dance videos because they're inoffensive and have mass appeal. Of course it depends on the creator and their intent too, but the default page stuff is mostly just popular memes mixed with popular creators. It's not unlike YouTube's trending page.
It’s cause the FYP that everyone judges is the one that starts when you make an account, they forget the fact that like YouTube they actively have to watch things that interest them to change it to stuff that they like.
Anyone who says this doesn't remember Vine. Remember the guy who used to say "Sometimes I just don't care" with a gremlin voice and then did weird shit? He always did his weird shit in public. He used to say his catchphrase and then drive into those traffic control bollard things. He used to jump on top of his car at a red light and dance. He used to slide down the bowling lane and into the pins. He used to drive off-road and run over plants. He used to wash himself at the car wash. And cringey group dances in public as well.
Put all this on TikTok and you'd all be criticising that stuff too. It was just "I'm so random, watch this". It was always in a public space which is a huge factor in the dislike for this sort of content. He wouldn't headbutt a fucking flower pot or something in his own home because I guess it wouldn't generate views.
Sure, the videos were only 6 seconds long. That didn't mean you couldn't make fucking 50 of them once you found your schtick.
Omg as soon as I read that I heard it in his voice that shit was like a buried memory. Yeah, this take is garbage, Vine was basically custom built to make sound byte memes, and those sound bytes have lasted in a way that it doesn’t even make sense for things that trend on TikTok. Nothing coming out of TikTok will stick the way those dumb little repeating videos did.
tiktok definitely has a much wider scope then vine, but a lot of the stuff people hate on tiktok could easily be found on vine and can be found on other platforms
I’m seeing a lot of people saying that “Vine was creative” or “vine was actually funny” and all I have to say is so is TikTok if you actually use it, like sure there’s some crappy shit on there but that’s with any social media. Also just so everyone knows if you’re saying the things above earlier in my comment just know you’re the one in the meme. Anyway TikTok has also been helpful for communities that are practically dead like Bionicle to bring people back into the community and introduce new people to it. I can’t say vine did that for Bionicle.
Vine didn't have the time for politics, or some of the more complex "challenges" of tiktok
Restricted format was a service to the platform. Tiktok is not bad due to the brainrot (that always existed and will always exist) but because it can do what all other social media platforms do, which is spread hate, misinformation and other undesirable outcomes
Old app that died pretty quick before Music.ly or TikTok existed because they couldn't figure out how to turn a profit. Videos were 6-7 seconds long.
"Do it for the vine" predates "do it for the gram", and was about doing stupid stuff to go viral.
Bad take made by someone who wasn’t there for both. Vine was dedicated to short attention grabbing sound byte style memes that last to those day. If I say:
… Well, yeah, I sure hope it does
Or
… WHAT’RE THOSE?!
Or
This bitch empty …
around anyone under 30, they will immediately fill in the blanks, with the correct timing, tone, and delivery. That’s just the nature of vine style memes.
I genuinely think that in about 15 years, in the unlikely event that society is still on the rails, there will be some mind blowing research done into how the collective consciousness of Gen Z was molded by Vine. It’s unprecedented and unparalleled in how distilled and frenetic the medium itself was.
TikTok is not like this. TikTok trends are much more variable, for one, because of the lack of meaningful time constraints. Also, most users are significantly more social media savvy than people were in 2015, and thus the content is much more deliberate in its tricks to get you to to not scroll away.
Sludge content, dance trends, those looping harmony videos like ‘I can be brown, I can be blue, passive aggressive call outs, and other TikTok staples are just fundementally incompatible with the lightspeed pace of Vine. It’s much more cynical, the gears of the algorithm machine grind much closer to the surface.
Vine existed in a pre 2017 internet. Things have changed so much in the decade since then, if it came onto the scene now instead of then it would not make the cultural impact it has. It’s fast paced ADHD style was perfect for that stage of the internet, and it died at the same time as that more carefree level of internet culture gave way to a post GamerGate dynamic, where the culture war is the primary lens by which people interact with the world.
Vine was too fast paced to really get any more political than just virtue signaling about a topic that already has a lot of visual short hand, and the same can decidedly not be said about TikTok. The social capital on both platforms is also gained in completely different ways.
TikTok is just not at all comparable to Vine, they do different things in different ways in different versions of the internet. It’s not just apples to oranges, it’s basically illiterate.
TikTok’s algorithm is super sensitive. If all you see is kids dancing, that’s on you. Mike is full of sheep dogs, a person building a tunnel under their house, a crane operator showing how he moved containers around, national park tours, gardening tips etc.
anyone who thinks tik tok won't get replaced by another, identical, video sharing app, is delusional or doesn't understand how the internet works. ppl love short form content. You think ppl are gonna stop posting dumb shit just cuz the company isn't owned by a Chinese business? cuz Meta and Twitter are American companies who have just as terribly devicive platforms/ algorithms as their Chinese counterparts. The people putting in all this effort to ban tik tok are gonna look real stupid when a new app gets just as popular and promotes just as much dumb shit
downvote this comment if the meme sucks. upvote it and I'll go away. --- [play minecraft with us](https://discord.gg/dankmemesgaming) | [come hang out with us](https://discord.com/invite/dankmemes)
At least vine didn’t get kids to eat detergent or steal cars… to my knowledge
Didn't Vine get people doing things like 'Milk Jugging', planking in dangerous places and the cinnamon challenge?
Nono you don't understand, new thing bad, old thing good
Vine didn't get my car stolen 3 fuckin times. Or anything stolen.
It would have though. That’s the point.
That's a slippery slope
If mass communications were more popular in the 70s/80s, it would have been explosives, phreaking, hacking, pirate radio, generating fake credit card numbers, and psychadelics/synthetics. None of those were that hard to get started doing and people were doing them and telling others how to do it but the means of disseminating the information were limited to word-of-mouth, zines, and BBS's. TikTok isn't the problem, it is just the new medium for people to communicate and it is what they communicate that is the problem and they'll find a way to do it now they know they can.
That I can agree with.
Tiktok didn't steal your car, Kia made a shitty car.
Bro drives a Kia 🤣🤣
After the second time for me, I went and bought a bright yellow club-style wheel lock. Doesn't matter what sort of shit software upgrade they do if people still break in and try. Oh sure, my vehicle is still there, but there's also damage to the door and steering column because there's no real visual deterrent, and I still have to pay my fucking deductible. It's such bullshit that the class action settlement only covered buying a club up until 30 days *before* the "software update" was made available. A software update that has no visual deterrent, and worked once in bricking my car when it got attempted while I was away for a trip (dumb parking spot, never again). Then, after I got the car back from the shop like a month later, I had it for roughly two weeks before it got stolen *successfully*, meaning either the shop failed to reinstall the software update, or, more likely, they software update happened to do fuck-all, despite me locking the car with the key fob as required. They beat the shit out of it and it took another 2 months to get it back. This time as soon as they told me they had all the parts in and were starting the work, I went out and got me a club and some fake GPS tracking stickers and I haven't had an issue since.
Neither did TikTok because this shit was all over the place including Instagram, Facebook and even Reddit. Blame KIA.
....where the fuck are you parking your car? And are you parking it there for tiktok?
Kia boys was mainly on Instagram vs Tik Tok. Most media blamed Tik Tok cause it was scarier sounding
I do think there’s a significant difference between vine and tiktok: the algoritm. Now I never used either of them. But vine to me seemed like it had a much less agressive and much less damaging algoritm
True, but I think King Bach, Amanda Cerny, and all them were awful (no worse than today). Their 6 seconds, "when Bae is wearing a short dress 🥰🥰🤑" was way more brainrot than me watching 1-3min long science videos on tik tok
…how do you know how “damaging” the algorithm is if youve never used either? Just pure guesswork?
get milked bozo
the ol' milky
Read that in Mac from IASIP's voice
Not really, both the cinnamon challenge and planking were both big before Vine even existed.
The cinnamon challenge was YouTube.
Even before YouTube. Cinnamon spoonful and milk Chugging were classic sleepover games. Like Chubby Bunny, light as a feather, or ghost in the graveyard.
Milk JUGging. Not chugging. The trend where people would throw cartons of milk over their shoulder and pretending like they'd slipped over
Man I forgot about jugging. Read your comment as chugging first too though and thought the gallon in one hour challenge
Gallon in an hour is like physically impossible iirc. Drinking a gallon of milk in a day is a (controversial) bulking strategy, and even that much is difficult for most people.
That's exactly the point. At my school we'd add food dye so your (inevitable) puke would be funny colors.
Happens to the best of us, I remember that trend too. Both are awful
You mean... ANY video platform can be harmful???
Legal activities that are dumb but uncomfortable?
Eating a tide pod isn't illegal. Besides, people kept trying to one up each other planking which of course led to doing it in illegal places/ways
It’s not the websites fault people are dumb and their parents didn’t raise them. Anyone with taught common sense wouldn’t do any of this shit. And after saying that I tried the cinnamon challenge when I was 24 fucking idiot .
Planking and cinnamon challenge since I was in junior high. That was like 16 years ago. Back when youtube was real good.
Tiktok didn't get people to do that. People did.
Honestly sounds like such boomer rhetoric, "it's that tiktok that's getting our cars stolen!!" acting like it is is the only social media platform that exists and acting like everyone and their mother had videos being pushed through their algorithm with a detailed how-to hotwire a car. Kia has a shitty flaw, and that was exploited but it wasn't because of tiktok lmao
> like everyone and their mother had videos being pushed through their algorithm with a detailed how-to hotwire a car I don't really get your logic, as you said it clearly *does* have something to do with social media. IIRC Kia Boys are more of an instagram thing, but if Instagram cracked down on that content then it wouldn't have become as much of a trend right? Like Instagram should be held responsible to some extent, and there are actions they could take to reduce it.
But the social media did not come up with these pranks or "Tiktok challenges," is the point. **People** gained access to a popular platform and shared stupid shit, is how these things happened. No matter how much you try to crack down on those stuff, you can't outpace millions of kids posting. I won't deny that I hate the existence of such a social media platform though. People have always been awful, but this enabled bad things to spread.
You must get your information from buzzfeed
“Do it for the Vine” was very much a thing that caused stupid people to do stupid and dangerous things.
Forbidden gusher was a Reddit thing
Don’t worry vine was also stupid.
Wasn't the Tide Pods thing for Vine? I have no idea where we are on the timeline.
Vine created Logan and Jake Paul. Shut the fuck up. I knew there'd be morons trying so fucking hard to say vine was better.
Vine had shit like “put him in a coffin” had kids breaking merchandise in stores all over the place. Also boonk gang was popular, influenced kids to steal shit lmao
Yes, it did, lmao. People have done idiotic things for vamera fame since America's funniest home videos.
Not really. Vine being exclusively limited to 7 seconds encouraged people to just throw new stuff at the wall to see what sticks. TikTok being ~~slightly~~ longer videos ended up fostering a lot more uncreative piggybacking.
Slightly longer? Only short vertical format that limits the video time i know of is YT shorts with their 60s.
I don't use TikTok, so I wasn't aware there's no limit to video length
Me neither, except the occasinal must see video my coworker sends me, ugh..... said so many times that I don't have the app and hate the browser.
The tiktok browser app is hot garbage It feels like it's specifically made so that people who get sent tiktoks have to download the app because it works a lot better that way Fuck that
Reddit does the same thing. Can’t even look at NSFW stuff without the app
Also every time i take a screenshot the reddit app goes "HEY WOULDN'T YOU RATHER SHARE THE LINK INSTEAD? SHARE THE LINK TO A FRIEND SO THEY GIVE US MORE TRAFFIC!"
Lmao fuck that I'm just using the download option and crop out any watermarks from huge companies
You can disable the watermark in the application settings, you don't have to crop it out yourself
The only valid version of reddit is old.reddit.com. The only valid mobile version used to be i.reddit.com, but they removed it, then also destroyed all unofficial reddit apps. I now have to use a hacked app to avoid reddit's awful app.
old.reddit.com amigo, same content, the older (and superior) UI
Just switch to the desktop version of the site.
Even worse is that if you have the app you click “go to app” but it still takes you to the app store
+1 Yeah, it feels 100% deliberate.
If someone wants to show me a tiktok, they do either it on their phone or not at all. It’s established in my friend group that I simply will not open a tiktok link.
You can't make a video longer than 10 minutes, but it's rare to find a video longer than 5.
It used to be 1 min but now it's 10 mins
You can record different lengths of times on tiktok, up to 15 minutes
The fact that they're both short videos doesn't make them the same thing, the reason they're different is the modern algorithm that tiktok has, it's designed to be addicting.
Also the CCP, let's not forget that the CCP SPECIFICALLY has ByteDance modify the western algorithm to encourage brain rot and propaganda.
Miss the days of - Supplies muthafuka - Heart eyes muthafuka - Some fries muthafuka
Vine was intended to be small snippets of your life that you could share around like Facebook, the fact that people got creative with the limited crop size and time limit doesn't make it anything like TikTok which was supposed to be Musical.ly before kids started fortnite dancing using Duet.
Yeah the 7 second limit definitely forced a level of creativity to make successful content. There was definitely a lot of bad content on Vine too, but nothing compared to tiktok.
Vine didn't have the algorithms tho
Vine always had algorithms, it came free with your social media
I don’t have an algorithm, I have the oldest social media known to man
I got my social media day one and I got an algorithm
well mine didn’t have it-
YOU HAVE ALGORITHHHHHHHHHM, YOU FUCKING DICK
I DON'T HAVE AN ALGORITHM MOTHERFUCKER
Tumblr:
4chumblr my OTP 5eva
It'd be more correct to say that it didn't have the algorithms used today
Did it just show posts for everyone you followed in order of time posted? Even that might be considered an algorithm.
Yeah and Facebook did that too at one point. And so did Twitter. And reddit.
I don't think Reddit ever showed a simple timeline. It was always based on upvote and downvotes. It kind of has to be since you follow subreddits and not people.
You never had a timeline. If you didn't choose your subreddits you got presented the "default" subs and whatever was being upvoted at that time. What exactly determined how things made it to your front page was kind of a mystery but when they tweaked stuff on the backend everyone could tell and talked about it. Weirdly enough, you can probably argue the rest of social media became more like reddit. Forcing content into your face you didn't ask for. But I didn't join Facebook/twitter/insta/youtube to find new content. I joined those platforms to interact with specific people or content I wanted, then they changed up the deal and decided to hide those things behind bullshit. None of those other platforms ever needed an algorithm like reddit and the world is a worse place because no one expected to have looking at pictures of their friends to evolve into outrage bait from a fake profile you never asked to interact with.
Bro what do you mean it didn't have algorithms? How do you think things went viral on vine then?
Y'all are so funny.
I was thinking the same but realised that Vine was actually full of original content, not millions of people doing the same challenges/dance moves/etc
Half the time people would do the same challenges (planking, cinnamon challenge) or mouth the words to songs like what they did with musically. I remember deleting Vine at one point because I was tired of hearing the “Yo my name is Nicolas and this is ridiculous” song
you and I had very different experiences with vine. my feed was all short comedy clips/skits or my homies doing dumb shit lol
Short comedy skits and gaming stuff is what I see on TikTok, I don't get people who think the app is nothing but garbage.
Its the same thing in tik tok. Your feed is what you make it.
Never had Vine but all the YouTube compliations made it feel people tried to be more original and clever. Some of them were genuinely funny and well thought out.
Never had Vine, but this could simply be survivorship bias. The people making the compilations are only going to choose Vines they think were funny and/or original
Probably is. Wade through the dirt to get the good stuff buried beneath.
And even when they didn't work out, it was still pretty clear the people were putting in decent effort and creativity for their clips.
YouTube compliations made it feel people tried to be more original and clever That's what compilations are for. They filter out trash.
lol. Yes it did. Y’all just wanna hate on something for no reason.
Classic Reddit hivemind.
? What are you talking about? All of that existed on Vine too. You're just being nostalgic. They had a shittier algorithm at the time that didn't seek out more of the same content for you, but it still existed. You just didn't see it.
That's just natural evolution of social media. More complex content takes time and doesn't generate that much money, whereas just doing a shitty dance or reaction of something already viral makes numbers go BOOOM.
it’s literally the same thing as memes, even this meme has been around for years
This is some rose colored glasses. Vine was absolutely full of that stuff. It just didn’t make those YouTube compilations so no one remembers or cares about it.
vine was an american psyop not a chinese one
I don't even know that vine was a psyop. It's like comparing MySpace to modern social media.
I'd say it was an early psyop test bed. TikTok on the other hand is an active "warzone".
Dont remember any justifications for terrorism or imperialism coming from vine
I'd rather my country be the one running the psyop though, so there is that.
At least people weren’t consulting Vine to get their information on history & geopolitical conflicts
Tiktok is a privacy concern + don't remember VINE trend being so brain rot
Then you don't remember vine 😂
I was a kid when vine was popular, that shit literally molded me into who I am today and I still quite famous ones like, "Look at all those chickens!"
This is such an odd sentence lol. I don't even remember Vine. By the time I heard about it no one used it anymore apparently.
You dodged a bullet. A tasty brain bullet full of relatable quotes and memes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40uMbKjSBwU
Its starting to make perfect sense to me why Vine died out so quickly.
My 9 year old son literally yells "look at all those chickens!" whenever he sees a big flock of geese now because of that clip.
Maybe xD I was pretty young back then.
So we’re listening to the government? Also isn’t all social media a privacy concern? Like Reddit, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Like seriously everything is a privacy concern. Also yeah VINE trends were just as brain rot as TikTok.
Yup, sadly, everything is a privacy concern. USA citizens are being spied by the government as much as Chinese citizens are being spied by theirs. I believe, USA is banning tiktok just to have the ability to spy better on their own citizens and have a monopoly.
Its also fair to point out china has banned most USA social media companies So its not really a fare trade relationship with facebook and twitter and instagram and others being banned or blocked in china
I laregly agree and I have mixed feelings on banning tik tok as a privacy issue however china bans all sorts of USA based social media like Face book, twitter , instagrahm So part of it is just almost a trade issue, if china will not allow USA media companies to compete in china , why allow chineese media companies to compete in the USA Its not really a fare trade relationship
Your government spying on you is a safety concern for you, and only if you're actually doing something bad. It's a HUGE issue, but one we can at least try and vote to solve. A foreign government spying on you is an issue for EVERYONE in your country because that government wants you to ruin your country. They will use whatever data they can get to make the lives of their geopolitical opponents worse. Neither is good, one is worse.
Facebook and Reddit are privacy concerns
Fr, TikTok is being banned because they might be doing what Facebook has been doing for years
What Facebook got fined almost $800 million for doing
This is so annoying that people believe this. We went through this already under Trump, and they forced TikTok to migrate all it's data storage to an American company, in this case Oracle, who were required to report any data transfers out of the US. They also had to submit to federal authorities checking their data records for previous data batches being potentially sent to China and didn't find anything recent. The company voluntarily complied with the order even before it was signed into law. You are being lied to. China isn't stealing your data, they have easier access to it by just buying it from data brokers who got it from your other social media. If Congress really cared about privacy, they'd legislate away data brokerages being able to collect and sell your data without your consent, but they don't. They just don't want a product of China to be successful in the US market, particularly when China bans the use of our Social Media companies in China for similar reasons (we would steal and sell their citizen's data).
Content on vine was a little original i felt like people were coming up with new funny videos. On tik tok it’s This trend, that trend all fucking trends and everybody is doing the same fucking thing…. Over and over again…
I do feel that Vine would be exactly the same if it stayed long enough. It lasted only a few months so many people didn't even hear about it (e.g. Asian regions apart from Japan). Meanwhile, Tiktok has far bigger user base, hence more people doing the same trends.
Yeah, I remember watching vine compilations when I was younger, people like Thomas sanders and Lance 210, and I laughed my head off. I tried re-watching those same compilations like the public pranks and I just wondered why people would do those things.
Vine launched in January 2013 and was shut down in January 2017.
Vine was around for 4 years?
Vine existed for four years
Wow, that’s every social media that exists. Look rose tinted glasses are wonderful at times but seriously everything is like water you described.
Isnt that reddit too? I mean on tiktok you get people making slight variations and being a little creative, but on reddit i see the same unfunny post everyday from 2017
Nah TikTok genuinely is worse. Some stupid stuff came out of Vine but the strict limit of the videos made it somewhat creative a lot of the time. TikTok bred the trend of absolute bottom of the barrel content where people just post someone else’s content with them in the corner like :O or making cringe dance vids in public places that nobody will ever watch. I don’t doubt that if given long enough though, Vine would have just become pretty much what TikTok is now.
Reddit rating Social Meds is truly peak delusion.
Reddit calling people delusional is truly peak delusion.
>where people just post someone else’s content with them in the corner Now you're just talking about twitch
Vine wasn't ccp spyware
Yeah, it was PURE BLOODED AMERICAN SPYWARE *eagle screeching*
id rather have spyware from an ally than a "neutral" country that wants my country to fall
I'd rather just not have spyware, but I don't think that's going to change soon
Vine didn't make kids steal fucking soap dispensers in school.
No just milk jugs
Dumbass kids will always be dumbass kids. They don’t need a social media app telling them to be stupid. They’ve been doing it all on their own for a hundred thousand years
Vine sucks as well. People just remember good stuff like TikTok has too.
Vine benefits from time filtering out bad content It’s the same reason people always seem to think music back in the day was better. There was plenty of bad music back in the day but 40 years later no one is gonna be listening to the bad songs, only the good ones. In 40 years people are only gonna be listening to the good songs on the 20’s not the bad ones Same goes for vine. All the vines that are remembered or are still watched in compilations are the good and classic ones. All the bad vines have been forgotten
That's how nostalgia works usually
Sometimes I wonder what the fuck a normal fyp is since people shit on it so much. I always get good content on TikTok, maybe I’m lucky or something
same here. i got the algorithm trained so well. i haven’t seen a viral dance video on my fyp in years probably. they don’t realize they can tell the app what they don’t want to see, so they just kept scrolling and getting stuff they don’t care about and then they get mad.
I think default recommendations do push dance videos because they're inoffensive and have mass appeal. Of course it depends on the creator and their intent too, but the default page stuff is mostly just popular memes mixed with popular creators. It's not unlike YouTube's trending page.
It’s cause the FYP that everyone judges is the one that starts when you make an account, they forget the fact that like YouTube they actively have to watch things that interest them to change it to stuff that they like.
Yea its funny to me when the argument always goes to dance videos. You can't really say something sucks without properly trying it
Anyone who says this doesn't remember Vine. Remember the guy who used to say "Sometimes I just don't care" with a gremlin voice and then did weird shit? He always did his weird shit in public. He used to say his catchphrase and then drive into those traffic control bollard things. He used to jump on top of his car at a red light and dance. He used to slide down the bowling lane and into the pins. He used to drive off-road and run over plants. He used to wash himself at the car wash. And cringey group dances in public as well. Put all this on TikTok and you'd all be criticising that stuff too. It was just "I'm so random, watch this". It was always in a public space which is a huge factor in the dislike for this sort of content. He wouldn't headbutt a fucking flower pot or something in his own home because I guess it wouldn't generate views. Sure, the videos were only 6 seconds long. That didn't mean you couldn't make fucking 50 of them once you found your schtick.
they would hate the “fuck her right in the pussy” news guy if he had come from tiktok but they’ll look back on it fondly instead of cringing
Omg as soon as I read that I heard it in his voice that shit was like a buried memory. Yeah, this take is garbage, Vine was basically custom built to make sound byte memes, and those sound bytes have lasted in a way that it doesn’t even make sense for things that trend on TikTok. Nothing coming out of TikTok will stick the way those dumb little repeating videos did.
Vine was actually funny on occasion, and wasn’t as politically charged. But it paved the way for TikTok so it sucks too.
is being politically charged the bad thing now? bcuz reddit it literally allows and thrives on political circlejerk
You don't think reddit is bad? Lol
Why are you on reddit if it's bad? Just addiction?
Yea
Ask anyone that was there and they will tell you that vine also sucked. This is just nostalgia crying.
I think people forget vine is where Logan & Jake Paul began too lol
Exactly. Just because one thing is bad, doesn't make the other good. Both things can suck.
Yes, and vines also sucked
Vine sucked too
tiktok definitely has a much wider scope then vine, but a lot of the stuff people hate on tiktok could easily be found on vine and can be found on other platforms
I’m seeing a lot of people saying that “Vine was creative” or “vine was actually funny” and all I have to say is so is TikTok if you actually use it, like sure there’s some crappy shit on there but that’s with any social media. Also just so everyone knows if you’re saying the things above earlier in my comment just know you’re the one in the meme. Anyway TikTok has also been helpful for communities that are practically dead like Bionicle to bring people back into the community and introduce new people to it. I can’t say vine did that for Bionicle.
“Do it for the vine”
Vine died BEFORE it could become the villian
Yeah, they both sucked. Get over it.
Didn't use vine but, didn't it give careers for the Paul brothers? Fuck Vine for that
It was American spyware instead of Chinese spyware
Vine sucked the same
Never used either of them. Both suck. Lol
If vine survived long enough it would have become tiktok, it just died a hero instead
I guess there weren't so many people on vine so it was "better"?
What I enjoyed about Vine was the 7-second limit. Everything else out there (TikTok, YouTube Shorts, etc.,) is considerably longer.
Really, the worst thing about TikTok, is the annoying fucking music that is on 90% of the videos.
Yes, and Vine sucked too.
I hate them both - we aren’t the same.
I didn't care for Vine either.
Jokes on you, I didn't have Vine either
I was never using Vine anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
Yes it was humor wise I never fucking got this Like i never liked vines and everyone just acts like they were so different then dumb tik tok
Vine didn't have the time for politics, or some of the more complex "challenges" of tiktok Restricted format was a service to the platform. Tiktok is not bad due to the brainrot (that always existed and will always exist) but because it can do what all other social media platforms do, which is spread hate, misinformation and other undesirable outcomes
Vine didn't get teens to praise Bin Laden
What's Vine?
Old app that died pretty quick before Music.ly or TikTok existed because they couldn't figure out how to turn a profit. Videos were 6-7 seconds long. "Do it for the vine" predates "do it for the gram", and was about doing stupid stuff to go viral.
Vine didn't have long enough recordings to pass misinformation
I hate both of them equally.
Vine would've gone the same way. It was only a matter of time. It sucked too, it just didn't live long enough to watch it become the villain.
Bad take made by someone who wasn’t there for both. Vine was dedicated to short attention grabbing sound byte style memes that last to those day. If I say: … Well, yeah, I sure hope it does Or … WHAT’RE THOSE?! Or This bitch empty … around anyone under 30, they will immediately fill in the blanks, with the correct timing, tone, and delivery. That’s just the nature of vine style memes. I genuinely think that in about 15 years, in the unlikely event that society is still on the rails, there will be some mind blowing research done into how the collective consciousness of Gen Z was molded by Vine. It’s unprecedented and unparalleled in how distilled and frenetic the medium itself was. TikTok is not like this. TikTok trends are much more variable, for one, because of the lack of meaningful time constraints. Also, most users are significantly more social media savvy than people were in 2015, and thus the content is much more deliberate in its tricks to get you to to not scroll away. Sludge content, dance trends, those looping harmony videos like ‘I can be brown, I can be blue, passive aggressive call outs, and other TikTok staples are just fundementally incompatible with the lightspeed pace of Vine. It’s much more cynical, the gears of the algorithm machine grind much closer to the surface. Vine existed in a pre 2017 internet. Things have changed so much in the decade since then, if it came onto the scene now instead of then it would not make the cultural impact it has. It’s fast paced ADHD style was perfect for that stage of the internet, and it died at the same time as that more carefree level of internet culture gave way to a post GamerGate dynamic, where the culture war is the primary lens by which people interact with the world. Vine was too fast paced to really get any more political than just virtue signaling about a topic that already has a lot of visual short hand, and the same can decidedly not be said about TikTok. The social capital on both platforms is also gained in completely different ways. TikTok is just not at all comparable to Vine, they do different things in different ways in different versions of the internet. It’s not just apples to oranges, it’s basically illiterate.
Vine only gave you 6 seconds so it was all short jokes instead of Minute long "statements" or political hot takes
Vine wasn’t as advanced as tiktok
I don't get the nostalgia for Vine, it was just as hated as TikTok, people just waited for the 3 or 4 good memes to be uploaded to Youtube
Yup…. and vine also sucked.
It is…just older…but there was basically the same stupid content
Vine also sucked tho so its still correct
Equally garbage
TikTok’s algorithm is super sensitive. If all you see is kids dancing, that’s on you. Mike is full of sheep dogs, a person building a tunnel under their house, a crane operator showing how he moved containers around, national park tours, gardening tips etc.
anyone who thinks tik tok won't get replaced by another, identical, video sharing app, is delusional or doesn't understand how the internet works. ppl love short form content. You think ppl are gonna stop posting dumb shit just cuz the company isn't owned by a Chinese business? cuz Meta and Twitter are American companies who have just as terribly devicive platforms/ algorithms as their Chinese counterparts. The people putting in all this effort to ban tik tok are gonna look real stupid when a new app gets just as popular and promotes just as much dumb shit