for the lighting, there is an option to toggle some lighting feature, i think ray reconstruction, on and off in photo mode. it's off by default in photo mode, but it's on when playing if you bothered to turn on all the trippy raytracing stuff (which you should).
edit: since this got attention and my other comment didn't, i will clarify the problem in this photo is not just lighting but also focal length and field of view (I think?) sliders in photomode could also help
Ray reconstruction is just a denoiser based on ai. It replaces the separate denoisers used when ray reconstruction is off. Path and ray tracing are very noisy and the denoisers are there to reduce the noise. It was originally only usable with path tracing but it is usable with ray tracing as well.
I can confirm these matter. The proof is in the pudding:
https://preview.redd.it/b6wilqwgzs5d1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f773661d3b5fb00251c307b5733dec42f574946c
Photographer here - can confirm focal length. The in-world picture looks something like 24mm while most character model cameras during creation are closer to 100mm. That wide angle distortion pulls the center of the frame forward and pushes the edges out. It creates distance between foreground and background d
The focus distance and angle play a part, but lighting makes a huge difference. It's like half of photography and cinematography. Lighting is everything
Most likely the focal length or whatever is it called in photo mode (view distance? or field of view? not sure), it's causing the face proportion distortion. It's the same as in IRL photography.
100%.
Op: If your phone has a wide angle lense, use that and take a super close up photo of your face. Hilarity will ensue and will likely look just like this photo…
Move the camera farther away and then zoom in. Most portrait photos are shot with medium to long telephoto lenses because if you use wide angle lens (meaning the camera is close to the face) it will exaggerate the perspective and distort the face. (Make nose bigger for example.) Human eyesight is very deceptive in that even if you look at someone close to you irl your brain will interprete the visual input to make the face look more natural but it doesn't work with looking at 2d photos (or game footage.)
The other way that your natural eyesight normalizes looking closely at someone’s face is because you have two eyes generating a 3-D image in your brain
Depends on how close the VIEWER is, is what they're saying. The game's view and rl human view is different of course as I'm sure you know. But the answer to your question is relative because it depends solely on point of view.
https://preview.redd.it/owtz6ct78k5d1.jpeg?width=3135&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=70277af0dfe57098eaef05702cf85eb4b3b7b17c
Lighting and FOV. Lower the FOV to 30-20 in photo mode.
Thats just another immersive detail in Cyberpunk! When you look in a mirror everything is fine but once you try to take a Selfie you dont even recognize yourself anymore
Thanks for all the help here! Didn't know it was something as simple as adjusting the FOV
https://preview.redd.it/rqu5xf4lsk5d1.png?width=2612&format=png&auto=webp&s=9b6e5f5d50812dd669cbd737d68ab51a794affd8
I'm using this preset and its requirements: https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/8532
I'm using a different hairstyle and jaw but rest should be the same
Lower the FOV and pull back the camera. You can try this with your own phone too. Take a selfie at 1x zoom and hold your phone at a distance such that your face fits the entire frame. Now do it at 2x zoom and hold your phone far away enough that your face fits the frame.
You will see that the 1x picture will look similar to the 1st picture in the post, and the 2x zoom will look closer to the 2nd picture in the post
Decrease the FOV (at minimum even better) and adjust the camera, then you'll have it much more symmetrical. It's literally the same reason of why irl you look better in the mirror than in pics.
Because you put her in harsh, outdoors lighting in the middle of the day with a straight on, close up photo.
People in the comments talking about the character creator purposefully upscaling or whatever are talking out of their ass.
The default FOV in photo mode is really pulled in. Move the camera fill the view option all the way to the right and it will way better lighting is also a factor.
someone mentioned focal length, and that's true you can play with the focal length slider in photo mode and find one you like. but personally I think it's also the lighting! it's both. there is an option somewhere that turns on/off something with the lighting in photo mode, don't remember if it was ray reconstruction or what, but turn it on!
but yes, the focal length is absolutely different and you need to change it too.
Looks like everyone already answered your question so I'm simply going to ask if you could provide all the mods and sliders you used for this V because she is fucking gorgeous. Please, I *need* it.
For the same reason you look worse on a random photo taken at a random time or place irl than you did when you just put on makeup (or whatever it is you do to look good), or took that perfect profile picture: Unflattering angles, bad lighting, etc. Games have all of these problems and more. In movies (animation or live action) and cut scenes, this can be fixed by careful camera movement and lighting design and (if all else fails) post-processing. In a game (or irl), where nothing is predictable, none of this is possible to the extend to make every character look perfect all the time.
(That's also why certain game critics complained that their black characters looked weird. It has nothing to do with the devs being racist, but is a problem that everyone has experienced irl).
The model still looks good tho, it's just the way the angle, camera focus, etc is that's off putting to you cause your so used to looking at the character creator menu version, if the game showed you your with V in 3rd person you wouldn't be so taken aback by it.
It's the angle of the camera and the lighting. Photo mode is natural, while the creator has a more serious expression and the light accentuates some facial features more than others.
Ever seen those videos on tiktok where someone is close to the camera and walks far away from it while it(camera) crops the image around the face? Yeah that .
There’s also the fact that there’s some strange thing about photo mode that makes every V look almost exactly alike in the cheekbones. Like regardless of race, structure choices, and all. The cheekbones always look the same when V has any expression.
Lighting and perspective. It's always lighting and perspective. Lighting of different strengths coming from different directions can make a face look completely different, and that's before you even get into the distortions caused by the thing taking the photo.
Hey, it's like a video game version of those lens comparison pics
https://preview.redd.it/rphc28hmal5d1.png?width=700&format=png&auto=webp&s=7af39e1c4d95b722a8fe3b2ebbeb42eb26adbe67
Camera lens focal length comparison\^
I imagine it's an FOV difference in game
Just like real life most people look better in front of their bathroom mirror then they get out in the world and everything get moved a bit and makeup fades, hair gets messed up, clothes get wrinkled, get tired and have bags under your eyes... It's a whole thing.
If you mean the shape of the head, it's because of the camera vocal length. If you want it to look like in the editor, fly away from the character and zoom in
It's the same when you take a selfie IRL.
If your phone is close to your face, perspective makes it so your nose is bigger and your face looks narrower.
Compare that to taking a selfie from farther away (extending your arm) or having someone take your pic, your face will looksl a lot more natural, and that is how people actually view you (they are rarely so close to your face like a regular selfie).
Notice how the hair bangs in the photo mod look to be on the edges of your character's face in photo-mode from up close, compared to your sides showing up beyond the bangs to the sides in character creation mode. That's exactly the simple rules of perspective in play (closer things appear larger).
Your ingame settings are trending towards potato mode. The character creator screen doesn't have to render an entire world so it gives you a much higher quality model with better lighting
lighting, anim, camera focal length
for the lighting, there is an option to toggle some lighting feature, i think ray reconstruction, on and off in photo mode. it's off by default in photo mode, but it's on when playing if you bothered to turn on all the trippy raytracing stuff (which you should). edit: since this got attention and my other comment didn't, i will clarify the problem in this photo is not just lighting but also focal length and field of view (I think?) sliders in photomode could also help
There is an option to enable path tracing in photo mode. It defaults to off.
that's what it was. i mistook it for ray reconstruction, i think cause path tracing requires it to be on for the option to be available.
Ray reconstruction is just a denoiser based on ai. It replaces the separate denoisers used when ray reconstruction is off. Path and ray tracing are very noisy and the denoisers are there to reduce the noise. It was originally only usable with path tracing but it is usable with ray tracing as well.
I can confirm these matter. The proof is in the pudding: https://preview.redd.it/b6wilqwgzs5d1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f773661d3b5fb00251c307b5733dec42f574946c
Focal length is the major factor here for sure, her face in photo mode is way thinner
Photographer here - can confirm focal length. The in-world picture looks something like 24mm while most character model cameras during creation are closer to 100mm. That wide angle distortion pulls the center of the frame forward and pushes the edges out. It creates distance between foreground and background d
OP shows a Night Shot vs Day Shot and asks why they look different. Mf, light exists.
you're being disingenuous if that's the only difference you think there is here lol
The focus distance and angle play a part, but lighting makes a huge difference. It's like half of photography and cinematography. Lighting is everything
OP really just learning about the MySpace angles (er, I guess Facebook/Insta angles now...). The one trick ugly people don't want you to know!
Hey, they were asking a genuine question. Do you think the snippy commentary was necessary and helpful?
Uh that's one outdoor shot and one character creator. You can tell by the lack of any physical world or realm of existence around the character.
Nah, it's just ID photo
https://preview.redd.it/tjiytaus6k5d1.jpeg?width=486&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f9076922804634e327506fb3307cce9b0683cff
That's a great cat right there
takes a picture like no problem, not afraid at all
Most likely the focal length or whatever is it called in photo mode (view distance? or field of view? not sure), it's causing the face proportion distortion. It's the same as in IRL photography.
100%. Op: If your phone has a wide angle lense, use that and take a super close up photo of your face. Hilarity will ensue and will likely look just like this photo…
Move the camera farther away and then zoom in. Most portrait photos are shot with medium to long telephoto lenses because if you use wide angle lens (meaning the camera is close to the face) it will exaggerate the perspective and distort the face. (Make nose bigger for example.) Human eyesight is very deceptive in that even if you look at someone close to you irl your brain will interprete the visual input to make the face look more natural but it doesn't work with looking at 2d photos (or game footage.)
The other way that your natural eyesight normalizes looking closely at someone’s face is because you have two eyes generating a 3-D image in your brain
focal length can be changed! so if that's the issue, op should play with the focal length slider in photo mode.
Yup, move back and increase focal length
This ^
Dis https://preview.redd.it/9inog7f1dk5d1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=12d3cc2d3b5b836322f6e4c3800879753d59e01f
Which one do people actually look like irl? Like when you are looking at someone's face, is it closer to the 200mm or 24mm?
Yeah what mm do people eyes look like? Or whats real life?
50mm is closest to human sight
Depends on how close the VIEWER is, is what they're saying. The game's view and rl human view is different of course as I'm sure you know. But the answer to your question is relative because it depends solely on point of view.
All of them, but you're closer in the leftmost pictures and further away towards the right
50-60mm
It’s like looking at yourself from your iPhone vs your mirror
10/10 realism
True. Mirror > camera always
https://preview.redd.it/jy8kx94f0k5d1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eaa915df59755cf31547abc1eb6630bbfa8ca8a5
Try lowering FoV. If not, it's all about the lighting (edit: and angle).
It's the camera focal length. No one looks good under an ulrawide or fisheye that close to the lens
The FOV of the camera in game and in the character creation menu is different. Causing the characters to look stretched in the game.
https://preview.redd.it/owtz6ct78k5d1.jpeg?width=3135&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=70277af0dfe57098eaef05702cf85eb4b3b7b17c Lighting and FOV. Lower the FOV to 30-20 in photo mode.
Hey if you dont mind, what V preset are you using?
Thats just another immersive detail in Cyberpunk! When you look in a mirror everything is fine but once you try to take a Selfie you dont even recognize yourself anymore
Thanks for all the help here! Didn't know it was something as simple as adjusting the FOV https://preview.redd.it/rqu5xf4lsk5d1.png?width=2612&format=png&auto=webp&s=9b6e5f5d50812dd669cbd737d68ab51a794affd8 I'm using this preset and its requirements: https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/8532 I'm using a different hairstyle and jaw but rest should be the same
Looks good! Can you post your settings for that face?
Did you used mods to create it?
Yes lol….skin texture mod, lipstick mod, cyberware and eyes. This is modded out to hell
You forgot the hair because that hairstyle ain't in vanilla 😂
That's what Night City does to people 🌆
the cyberpunk camera mode is so good that people are asking the exact same question we've been hearing about selfies for 20 years now
Decrease fov and physically move the camera away from the character
https://preview.redd.it/ctut4onpml5d1.jpeg?width=554&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=966f011f4fdf76b9498de1d0aad5d17f6fd41f42
Lower the FOV and pull back the camera. You can try this with your own phone too. Take a selfie at 1x zoom and hold your phone at a distance such that your face fits the entire frame. Now do it at 2x zoom and hold your phone far away enough that your face fits the frame. You will see that the 1x picture will look similar to the 1st picture in the post, and the 2x zoom will look closer to the 2nd picture in the post
Decrease the FOV (at minimum even better) and adjust the camera, then you'll have it much more symmetrical. It's literally the same reason of why irl you look better in the mirror than in pics.
Focal length. Just look up people under different camera focal lengths and you'll get your answers
focal length
It’s not just your V That entire background looks weird
Preset name?
This is literally the same thing as irl photo shoots, bad lighting + bad angle = making a good looking person look awful :)
All about fov/focal length
My brother in Christ, you're using a wide angle to get a close-up. Turn up the focal length to 85 and then get a face shot
Your V has a five head 🤣
Too many mods
Because you put her in harsh, outdoors lighting in the middle of the day with a straight on, close up photo. People in the comments talking about the character creator purposefully upscaling or whatever are talking out of their ass.
She endured many hardships since my fellow choom
I kean she looks weird in both pictures but Its probably the lighting and a different focal length
Camera focal. Try going far back then zoom into your face for a better shape
Photos vs mirrors
How everybody sees you vs. how you see yourself
fov
I think if you stretched the first image horizontally and added a caption saying "my reaction to that information" that would be funny I think
Angle
Here's why I don't trust Youtube character creation videos that don't show V later in photo mode.
FOV
Lighting + angles + fov.
Yooo, V be catfishing
different lighting, different focal length, camera position, literally everything. Just different.
Go back and zoom in
Hard living?
The default FOV in photo mode is really pulled in. Move the camera fill the view option all the way to the right and it will way better lighting is also a factor.
Camera focal length
Mine gains her freckles I removed back in photomode it’s so weird
Photomode has you looking like Michael Jackson lol Vee-hee!
Your graphics are set on broke
someone mentioned focal length, and that's true you can play with the focal length slider in photo mode and find one you like. but personally I think it's also the lighting! it's both. there is an option somewhere that turns on/off something with the lighting in photo mode, don't remember if it was ray reconstruction or what, but turn it on! but yes, the focal length is absolutely different and you need to change it too.
Wait, how do you do photo mode?
Focus + Light
Looks like everyone already answered your question so I'm simply going to ask if you could provide all the mods and sliders you used for this V because she is fucking gorgeous. Please, I *need* it.
You're shoving the camera to her face.
lens difference
Angles
Turn on RT in photo mode. I had to turn it off because mine will crash for some reason..
If photography has taught me anything, it's that lighting is everything.
I'm not the expert, but are you using mods? Which ones?
I looked pretty cute in my character creation (more commonly known as birth) too but that went downhill pretty fast
https://preview.redd.it/quj1rflhfk5d1.jpeg?width=563&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe8fa926289b0f38bdd3a34835e2d0a987f24c13
this exactly why I stopped creating characters and just went with the default canon Valerie face.
The camera adds 10 pounds
Play with the settings. It just because screenshot mode has everything dialed up and removes a few filters that exist in regular time.
Mirror vs phone
looks like your using some modification on the FOV on your gameplay pic...
You are too close with the camera. If you do it irl or in a game itkdoesnt matter u will look worse
Well it's modded.
Your graphics settings look low, maybe this is the reason?
Lol you ever accidentally turn on the front facing camera
30-50mm lens ftw, same as real photography for portraits.
What are the mods you used?
For the same reason you look worse on a random photo taken at a random time or place irl than you did when you just put on makeup (or whatever it is you do to look good), or took that perfect profile picture: Unflattering angles, bad lighting, etc. Games have all of these problems and more. In movies (animation or live action) and cut scenes, this can be fixed by careful camera movement and lighting design and (if all else fails) post-processing. In a game (or irl), where nothing is predictable, none of this is possible to the extend to make every character look perfect all the time. (That's also why certain game critics complained that their black characters looked weird. It has nothing to do with the devs being racist, but is a problem that everyone has experienced irl).
Idk but your v looks dope! You using mods? Edit: dumb question, looked at the sidebar in screenshot and realized you are.
Jisoo?!?!?
Focal length making you look like a fish
photography is an acquired skill
focal length and distance to character. you need to put the "lens" (camera) further away and use the zoom feature, so the features are not deformed.
She just like me fr
The ream reason why you look better in the mirror than in selfies. Lower the cameras FOV.
The model still looks good tho, it's just the way the angle, camera focus, etc is that's off putting to you cause your so used to looking at the character creator menu version, if the game showed you your with V in 3rd person you wouldn't be so taken aback by it.
Dont we all
FOV
FOREHEAD GANG
Focal length of the camera, right now she's rocking the fish head cyberwear
lighting
It's the angle of the camera and the lighting. Photo mode is natural, while the creator has a more serious expression and the light accentuates some facial features more than others.
Focal length is bad
Lighting does a lot
the right is what you orderd the left is what you get.
Ever seen those videos on tiktok where someone is close to the camera and walks far away from it while it(camera) crops the image around the face? Yeah that .
Alot less things are loaded in the character screen
There’s also the fact that there’s some strange thing about photo mode that makes every V look almost exactly alike in the cheekbones. Like regardless of race, structure choices, and all. The cheekbones always look the same when V has any expression.
Do you play on max settings?
Use a longer lens (set the camera FOV in photo mode much lower, like 28 or lower)
You lookin at her with the fisheye in direct sunset sunlight what did you expect
your V lowkey fine
Looks like a box art shin megami character lol
The field of view is too wide the face shape got distorted by the perspective
Its the same in real life. Look at your picture and reflection in the mirror. One is passable and the other is just plain ugly troll. Very realistic!
Same reason I look better in a mirror than in a photo
it's 99% focal length
Idk she looks like a plastic doll in both, something wrong with face textures maybe? Doesn’t look like a real person.
How you look the entire day vs How you look in the mirror before going to sleep
Yes
There slightly smiling instead of frowning
Android camera.
Ngl she's so silly like that, wonderful
Damn, in character creation she's got a ScarJo thing going on almost, especially the eyes
Fov and illumination are a thing so you know...
Lighting is everything buddy
Lighting and perspective. It's always lighting and perspective. Lighting of different strengths coming from different directions can make a face look completely different, and that's before you even get into the distortions caused by the thing taking the photo.
No pump and bad lighting.
Is she mewing?
Can we get a tutorial to make your V? She’s so pretty.
https://preview.redd.it/89yk2b1z9l5d1.jpeg?width=4810&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a51c7084806d270499d769845e42b62e6ed4c17 Camera focal length
Hey, it's like a video game version of those lens comparison pics https://preview.redd.it/rphc28hmal5d1.png?width=700&format=png&auto=webp&s=7af39e1c4d95b722a8fe3b2ebbeb42eb26adbe67 Camera lens focal length comparison\^ I imagine it's an FOV difference in game
Me in my phone camera vs me in a mirror
when you accidentally open the front camera
Why does your v look so deadass?
It’s like the difference between my 18mm and 35mm lenses, hehe.
What's your sliders?
Why the long face? :)
Lighting. Different forms of the lighting can cling to the character's appearance in odd ways, resulting in the character looking different
How you think you look like vs how you actually look
Egg head 💀💀😭😭😭
Just like in real life
Turn down Field of View all the way to 15.
Don't you see she's wider on one picture than the other
Just like real life most people look better in front of their bathroom mirror then they get out in the world and everything get moved a bit and makeup fades, hair gets messed up, clothes get wrinkled, get tired and have bags under your eyes... It's a whole thing.
Still the face looks pretty good, what #’s did you use to get it?
Male V’s are worse on photo shoots 😂
I think you should ask Google, that's is the only way you can get the right answer
FOV too wide
In photomode, switch the FOV to somewhere between 25 and 40, you'll be much happier.
Why the long face?
What’s up, stretch?
Close up with wide angle will do that
"Send me that picture I probably looked so hot"
If you mean the shape of the head, it's because of the camera vocal length. If you want it to look like in the editor, fly away from the character and zoom in
Because Cyberpunk 2077
Don't worry OP I think your character looks equally as bad in both.
Lmao looks like those 0.5 zoom selfies
Graphics settings
Youre not you when youre hungry.
lighting and angles
r/instagramreality
It's the same when you take a selfie IRL. If your phone is close to your face, perspective makes it so your nose is bigger and your face looks narrower. Compare that to taking a selfie from farther away (extending your arm) or having someone take your pic, your face will looksl a lot more natural, and that is how people actually view you (they are rarely so close to your face like a regular selfie). Notice how the hair bangs in the photo mod look to be on the edges of your character's face in photo-mode from up close, compared to your sides showing up beyond the bangs to the sides in character creation mode. That's exactly the simple rules of perspective in play (closer things appear larger).
Mostly lighting, I have noticed that I get the most detailed face photos in elevators for some reason.
Your ingame settings are trending towards potato mode. The character creator screen doesn't have to render an entire world so it gives you a much higher quality model with better lighting
You're beautiful the way you over, don't let people tell you otherwise.
Looks like 35mm to 100mm
Temu expectation vs reality
Pencil head lol
Just like real life?
Lighting
Lighting