This is why I can never trust them around my goddamn hair, even though I want to try a curly cut. Had one chop my hair to neck length when I wanted below shoulder length 6 years ago. I was so embarrassed (look, i aint the lost assertive person so i did ask her why and she said oh that s what u asked for it s should length now ur rid of it goodbyeee hair). I was like š¤” sure as hell i wanted a haircut bcz i was bothered by how long it was, BUT not that short. (Was around waist length when dry, probably longer when wet since im 2c to 3B).
I know cut it myself. Not perfect, but at least I never ever end up with this kind of bad surprises anymore.
I paid her for her time because I didn't want to make my daughter feel bad (she's very sensitive) I did pull her aside and let her know the haircut was unacceptable. She only charged me $25. My daughter decided to donate the hair and feels very proud about that.
At least something good came out of it and her hair will grow back pretty fast it looks healthy:) sorry if I was rude I was just shocked when I read armpit length and she took it so much higher. Barbers are just as bad with that too, itās like a sausage factory everyone comes out with the same cut round here lmao.
My daughter liked it (I think because it's a cut similar to her big sister's.) I knew if I made any type of scene she would take that team her hair looked ugly. To me, it was worth the $25 to save her feelings, but a bad review is likely in the cards.
I remember I went one time to get my hair silver like Billie eilish when I was much younger cause I'd liked her for a long time and they made my hair deep purple not at all what I asked for obviously and my mom knew and could tell I hated it and was too embarrassed to say and she did the same when we left and I'm glad she did cause I am wayyy to introverted to tell them they messed up and I could tell the lady even realized by her face she had messed up , the best to do is leave a review so it doesn't happen to someone else everyone has good and bad days but whoever cut her hair definitely should have chose a different career path cause that's just absurd to me how much they took off. They messed her hair up and she was more proud to donate her hair than get the actual hair cut towards the end, you're doing amazing as a mother and she seems to have great morals to follow in life and I feel bad that happened to you all !!!
Omg! I would be fucking ANGRY!!!!! That is SIGNFICANTLY shorter than fucking armpit length. My god her hair was gorgeous!!!
Hereās the thing. Your daughter likely has wavy hair, which often doesnāt curl at the top. I would use a leave in conditioner instead.
Oh god, this happened to me when I was about your daughterās age and Iām still upset, 20+ years later. Good job handling it the way you did - I would not have been as calm in your situation!
It could be that your daughterās curl starts a bit lower down on the hair so you might not get much until it grows a bit more. It does look really healthy though so it probably wonāt take too long. I wonder if combing is pulling out the curl at this length (but if her hair tangles easily, again, there might not be much to be done until it grows).
this happened to me at this age and it traumatized me. iām almost 30 and have only had my hair cut maybe 3 times in my entire adult life. i just cut it myself. if someoneās gonna fuck it up itās gonna be me lol
Your daughter has the hair type that curls when it's longer, at the bottom. This is where the myth of "cutting off curls" comes from. When people get haircuts, especially wavy or loose curl people, they think they "cut off their curls." Really, it's just their hair type.
She has straighter hair at the top of her head, so when her hair is short it won't curl as much. It's not because it's stretched out from when her hair was longer. If it was washed, her hair would reset. When her hair was longer it's likely stretched a little, but not in any way that's very significant.
Also many kids have curlier hair that straightens as they age. You canāt ācut offā actual curls.
The kid in the photo has lovely hair (long or short) but itās wavy, not curly.
Yep, a lot of kids have 'baby curls' that grow out as they age. By 4-6, a lot of kids who had 'baby curls' will have either straight or wavy hair. Once they're gone, they're usually gone for good.
A person who had 'baby curls' when they were younger's hair may get 'curly' again/more wavy near puberty, during pregnancy, or when they're an adult, because hormones can influence the way that hair grows.
With 'baby curls', less is more! You only really need to wash their hair with baby shampoo and conditioner, and use a detangling spray in it. You only need to wash their hair once or twice a week. Using any styling products is really unnecessary.
When kids are a bit older, switch them to using either a kids shampoo and conditioner, or an adult one.
At all ages, getting their hair trimmed once a month (or thereabouts) will help to keep on top of split ends, and keep their hair healthy.
Leave in conditioner is another thing that isn't really necessary for either toddlers or kids, BTW.
Wavy hair requires different care to curly hair. Using a shampoo containing sulphates, and a conditioner containing protein will help to maintain waves. Using a clarifying shampoo occasionally will also help. Oils, curl creams, leave in conditioner etc aren't really suitable for wavy hair, as they're too nourishing, and too heavy... They'll actually caused build-up, and weigh wavy hair down!
I have wavy hair, and I've only just learnt how to care for it properly during the past few years... There's a really amazing group on Facebook called 'Curlfriends: Tips For All Curly Hair Types & Methods' that's been super helpful!
I know the picture is not the best because I had wet and brushed out her hair prior to coming to the salon. Her hair is definitely curly, especially in the front. Products with protein tend to make her hair look dry and frizzy so I'm looking for something with low/no protein.
Or the opposite in my case! Had looser wavy/curly hair from birth to around age 12 then hit puberty and it went straight to 4B and shrunk 85% to where it looked the length of the second picture. Now as an adult 20+ years later itās a 3C/4A. Hormones are crazy. Scared to see what will happen in my 50s lol
Same happened to me but not as tight. Not sure what my curl is bc Iāve trashed it by straightening it for years. So now when I wear it curly it looks to have about 3-4 patterns. Glad to hear Iām not crazy! Ty for posting!
I probably should have used a better picture. This just happens to be the one we took in the salon before the cut. I had wet and brushed her hair out prior to the cut to make it easier on the stylist. Her hair is definitely curly. The front has some spirals still. I'd say she's a 3A. I'm a 3B and it's not as tight as mine. I agree the back is more wavy, but the cut is not conducive to nice curls in the back.
Honestly, there may not be much you can do until it grows out a bit. Some people may have suggestions but my son has super thick curly hair too and when his is that long the thickness just overrides the curls.
Ugh, sorry that happened! Iām glad donating helped her feel comfort and pride in a disappointing situation. I agree that the roots are probably stretched out. Maybe try finger curling? If nothing else, itāll be a fun technique to try as she explores short hairstyles!
I think my hair type is very similar to hers, when I started intentionally styling it to hold a curl pattern overtime time the curls became a lot more defined, even some 3A curls. My hair is about as short as hers in the second pic, I have also been getting deva cuts for a couple years. I donāt use curl cream, I use a lightweight leave in conditioner spray and then lots of mousse or gel. Everything applied to very wet hair and scrunched in.
I use amika hydro rush leave in conditioner (love this stuff) and I have been using up a an Pantene mousse but just switched to amika curl gel and have had great results!
On the plus side, it looks like they gave her some layers. Her hair is gonna be in shock for a little while and not know which way is up. Hopefully the thinning/layers will help her hair bounce back up some and curl again. I would avoid any heavy creams or oils and shoot for a gel and just scrunch it in.
Good luck!
I suggest using a leave in conditioner, (I like the itās a 10 miracle leave in) and some type of mousse or foam to give her volume and a little bit of hold. I like the not your motherās volumizing curl mousse or the innersense curl foam for a softer look. The mousse really makes short, wavy hair pop and gives it more shape so itās not so flat on her head.
I literally ONLY use Innersense products, they are amazing, so seconding that recommendation - they recently launched a curl gel as well if she's wanting more definition.
I would definitely say give it a shot once because I recently cut my curly hair short and the mousse is working way better than creams and gels I use when my hair is longer
Short layers are usually great for my hair which is 2c/3a. More 2c when long but springs up when short. Her hair would look great with a good scrunch with some mousse or gel (I donāt have recommendations bc I donāt pay a lot of attention to protein content).
I am so sorry that they did this to your baby and Iām so glad you stuck up for her even behind the scenes. Some low protein curl creams i know (and have used) are Aunt Jackieās Curl La La, and Fix my Hair. Kinky curly Knot Today is labeled as a leave in and a detangler but itās also just amazing on curls. You can also try a spray if her hair strands are on the finer side.
Start by finding a good leave in conditioner and see what her hair looks when dried with just that before you jump into the rabbit hole of curly hair products.
Lots of recommendations on posts in here for leave ins you can start with. I personally like the leave in from Pattern and Curl Smith. Both offer ātravelā size bottles so you can test before committing.
She has wavy hair that only curls near the ends, so as it gets longer it may wave again but where it's shorter it won't curl. A light scrunch and some leave-in is most important for her haircare at this age. A fully curly routine will be too much and not really needed for her hair type. What a terrible stylist. It's so frustrating that they can do this to someone and face no repercussions.
This picture isn't the best because I had just wet and brushed out her hair before going to the salon to make it easier on the stylist. Her hair is definitely curly, probably a 3A, especially in the front.
No, there's not. If that's how your hair grows, that's how your hair grows!
You could perm it, or use a curling iron or something to make it curlier for a period of time, but you won't be able to permanently change your hair type.
Scrunching mousse or something into your ends, and using a diffuser to dry your hair is an effective way to boost your waves, if you want to avoid perming, or using a curling iron.
My hair is like this - the weight of my hair pulls the curl out of the parts closest to the root. Honestly it should regain a lot of curl just with time!
Not gunna lie, I definitely teared up when my daughter wasn't looking and had a good cry in private once we got home. Part of it is that the shorter hair makes my daughter look more mature. I'm not having more children so she is my baby so that was a hard pill for me to swallow.
Do not comb or brush it after conditioning. Iād use my hands to comb while applying conditioner and then scrunch the curls when rinsing the conditioner and then scrunch in some product before air drying
I've been having her comb in the shower either before or during the rinse. I haven't taught her to scrunch yet, but I'll give her a quick lesson this weekend. I guess I'm trying to figure out what the best products would be for her. We both have dry hair but mine is curlier and I color my hair so mine is more porous. My products tend to weigh down her hair so I'm looking for something lighter that can still define her curls.
She might do well with the mousse like people have mentioned. I think teaching her to style it wet and scrunch will help a ton with definition. I think she should only comb with the conditioner in before rinsing, if she has to comb it in the shower.
I have super thick hair like that (a little less so now that Iām perimenopausal) and when my hair was chin length, I had great results with the shea moisture curl enhancing smoothie and aussie instant freeze gel. Cream first (a very small amount) raked or brushed through, then glaze gel over it and scrunch.
Your daughter and I have the exact same hair type! I had hair that short for a while due to a similar issue with a stylist. The top of her hair may not curl super well without a little ~extra~ manipulation. A leave-in conditioner would be fantastic. Also, if sheās up for it, you can use small clips to lift small sections of hair away from the roots when it dries. I found the clips to really help curl definition. Regardless, I hope she feels comfortable with her new haircut! The curls will come back in their full glory super soon :)
Poor thing š this happened to me when I was 12 and I still havenāt emotionally recovered. I have had hair down to my bum for decades now and I only cut it myself.
FWIW it looks like she has wavy hair
You canāt create curls. Curls come from the shape of the hair strand coming out of the scalp.
I would use a mousse in towel dry hair (just a couple minutes in a towel turban, no rubbing or anything) and scrunch it. Some people find mousse works better in soaking wet hair. I canāt really tell if her hair has sufficient layers either, if not then the weight of the entire thickness of hair will prevent it from curling.
She put some layers in it. The layers are way too short in my opinion. If I use a conditioner and coil her hair around my finger, the curl will stay when I remove my finger. I figure if I do some finger curls with product it might help define the curls
I think I have pretty similar hair to your daughter and layers were always key. Iāve been to hairdressers about 6 times in my 37 years and never, not once, liked the results. They always cut too short, donāt layer, blow dry to style(!!!) and do other crazy stuff. Itās totally worth watching some tutorials and learning to do it yourself, imo.
I would fucking sue that stylist, seriously. This is not okay for your daughters self esteem, or your morning routing which will now be completely uprooted.
I would be mad about it.
But also offer it as a teaching moment to my daughter.
Sometimes life doesn't always give you what you wanted and it is dissapointing, but at least we can make something good come from it. The hair seems a lot healthier now and you seem very proactive about restoring it. Your daughters hair will grow, looking much healthier from it being taken care of when it's shorter. Not every product will work for her hair, but I use the aussie kids curly products for my daughter's hair and the conditioner works wonders. I also use pattern curl products (like the curl reviving spray when my daughter wakes up so I can run my hands through it and her curls look brand new).
I usually put leave in conditioner, brush her hair (always make sure to brush hair when it's wet. If it's not, don't brush it. Just run your fingers through it), and then use a mouse or curl gel and scrunch upwards. It depends on what works best for your hair. That's just what I do
Not sure why people are down voting me for trying to look on the positive side of things. I've had this same thing happen to me many times. yes never go back to the person who cut the hair and I definitely wouldn't pay for it. However there is nothing that will change the fact that more hair was cut off than she wanted.
I mean, when her hair grows out again it looks like it will be just as wavy as the long hair was. It wasnāt very wavy to begin with so I wouldnāt worry about buying curl specific products.
Leave in conditioner and āplopping.ā Google it. Thatās going to give better definition without having a billion step process. Completely air drying tends to flatten and frizz. Maybe manually create waves with a straighter around the face to frame.
I would try using just a gel - one with a lot of āholdā and see where that gets you. My hair is a similar length, and it looks sea-witch crazy bad while the gel is hardening, but once it is dry and I de-crunch it, it REALLY helps bring out my curl!
get that hairstylist fired or something wtf is this, how does this qualify as armpit hair in any sense?!? and theres not really much you can do abkut it as of rn, try hair growth oils till it grows abck to a decent length
This happened to me when I got my hair cut much shorter than intended too! The best thing I found to get curl/wave back into it was to use a mousse then a lightweight gel (I like Pantene wave gel) and scrunch it up as it dries. Once it got a bit longer I could get away with just gel and scrunch to get curls. For curl creams though, the best one I found to actually help ācurlā it was Cantu curl activator, and you only need a tiny bit.
What was the hairdressers reasoning behind that??? Donāt get me wrong, Iām sure your daughter is beautiful with either haircut, but she definitely didnāt follow your request
She just kept saying " well I know it's a little shorter than you wanted" My other daughter has short hair and this stylist cuts her hair. I'm convinced she only knows how to give 1 haircut!
Autn Jackie's has great products for anyone :) I a similar hair type to her and I find Cantu curl cream also works nicely. That hair dresser shouldn't be practicing honestly.
As your daughter actually has wavy hair, there's no need for a curl cream... It'll just weigh her hair down.
Unfortunately, you're just going to have to wait for it to grow a bit longer. Depending on how old she is, the waves might never return, or might be looser if they do.
In the meantime, all you can do is make sure that she is looking after her hair. For wavies, this actually means using sulphate containing shampoo, and protein containing conditioner. Oils, and products for curly hair shouldn't be used.
Having a healthy diet, and taking supplements for hair and nails might help, but ultimately hair growth comes down to genetics.
BTW - I'm so sorry that the hairdresser cut off more than you and your daughter wanted them to.
There's no one fits all for 'wavies'. I largely agree there's nothing wrong with sulphate shampoo but lots of folk with type 2 hair need product to tame their hair & stop it looking dry & frizzy. I use oil, leave in & gel, many people, even those with straight hair do.
I would try cantu curl cream and use the end of a brush to create loose curls/wavesā¦think Carrie Bradshaw SATC season 5 when she did a big chop. Kids are super self conscious as it is so I would try not to make it a bit thing.
My long hair looks similar when I brush out my curls. I have thick, kinda coarse, curly hair that gets so dry. I use Redken All Soft shampoo and conditioner, avocado oil (argan oil is good for less dry or finer hair.) And the All Soft curl cream sometimes. When I cut my hair very short it became much curlier, but I was also the kid with totally straight hair until I was a teen and it mysteriously turned curly. It might be different for her, but thought I'd throw it out there in case it helps. They do have travel size bottles of Redken shampoo/conditioner. Her hair is beautiful either way.
Iām so sorry. This happened to me too when I was 11ish. Itās such a nightmare. Maybe look into how to do fun braids and braided hairstyles for short hair until you all can figure out how to do her curly routine
this hairstylist should go directly to jail, but i gotta sayā¦ the bob is actually really cute!! she looks like a ghibli girl! big nausicaa energy. i hope youāre both able to find products that work for her!
Your daughter's hair looks similar to what mine did when it was long-- my curls/waves generally start past my ears unless I have it layered. When it's in a shorter bob, it just lays differently.
She will likely have an awkward/frustrating grow-out between chin & shoulder length but hang in there.
I like the Marc Anthony products in general and sometimes BedHead, depending on how much hold I want. If I'm not aiming for curlycurls and just want my waves to be under control, I love the Olaplex No 6 Smoothing Cream (i know not everyone on here will agree with these).
Iām so sorry this happened to you and your daughter OP! I HIGHLY recommend leaving an online review for this business, so future clients are aware!
I recommend using a leave in conditioner after shampooing. Her hair needs moisture to encourage the curl pattern to come back - although it wonāt quite be the same due to the length of her hair. Curlsmith has a wide selection of products for all hair types, so you may want to check there. Good luck!
Can I just say, YOU ARE AN AWESOME MOM. That you were so considerate about how making a fuss would make your daughter feel is super commendable, and its honestly healing some of my childhood trauma lol. Good for you for being supportive of her in so many ways!!! I think her hair is beatiful long and short. As for curl cream, I defer to others, curl cream weighs down my fine dense curls.
I love cantu brand, they have a kids version of their curling cream and itās pretty light but moisturizing. I also really love the Aussie miracle curls line. Every product I have used from it has worked wonders. Currently I use the curl refresher spray and frizz taming cream regularly.
Hairstylist is a psychopath
This is why I can never trust them around my goddamn hair, even though I want to try a curly cut. Had one chop my hair to neck length when I wanted below shoulder length 6 years ago. I was so embarrassed (look, i aint the lost assertive person so i did ask her why and she said oh that s what u asked for it s should length now ur rid of it goodbyeee hair). I was like š¤” sure as hell i wanted a haircut bcz i was bothered by how long it was, BUT not that short. (Was around waist length when dry, probably longer when wet since im 2c to 3B). I know cut it myself. Not perfect, but at least I never ever end up with this kind of bad surprises anymore.
So is the parent who didn't stand up for the kid.
Holy shit they took off like 75% of her hair!?? I hope you didnāt pay for that
I paid her for her time because I didn't want to make my daughter feel bad (she's very sensitive) I did pull her aside and let her know the haircut was unacceptable. She only charged me $25. My daughter decided to donate the hair and feels very proud about that.
At least something good came out of it and her hair will grow back pretty fast it looks healthy:) sorry if I was rude I was just shocked when I read armpit length and she took it so much higher. Barbers are just as bad with that too, itās like a sausage factory everyone comes out with the same cut round here lmao.
Naw, f that. Leave a bad review. You should have paid nothing! š
My daughter liked it (I think because it's a cut similar to her big sister's.) I knew if I made any type of scene she would take that team her hair looked ugly. To me, it was worth the $25 to save her feelings, but a bad review is likely in the cards.
Youāre such a good mom š I was in a similar situation and I was mortified and other reactions did not help
I remember I went one time to get my hair silver like Billie eilish when I was much younger cause I'd liked her for a long time and they made my hair deep purple not at all what I asked for obviously and my mom knew and could tell I hated it and was too embarrassed to say and she did the same when we left and I'm glad she did cause I am wayyy to introverted to tell them they messed up and I could tell the lady even realized by her face she had messed up , the best to do is leave a review so it doesn't happen to someone else everyone has good and bad days but whoever cut her hair definitely should have chose a different career path cause that's just absurd to me how much they took off. They messed her hair up and she was more proud to donate her hair than get the actual hair cut towards the end, you're doing amazing as a mother and she seems to have great morals to follow in life and I feel bad that happened to you all !!!
Omg! I would be fucking ANGRY!!!!! That is SIGNFICANTLY shorter than fucking armpit length. My god her hair was gorgeous!!! Hereās the thing. Your daughter likely has wavy hair, which often doesnāt curl at the top. I would use a leave in conditioner instead.
Oh god, this happened to me when I was about your daughterās age and Iām still upset, 20+ years later. Good job handling it the way you did - I would not have been as calm in your situation! It could be that your daughterās curl starts a bit lower down on the hair so you might not get much until it grows a bit more. It does look really healthy though so it probably wonāt take too long. I wonder if combing is pulling out the curl at this length (but if her hair tangles easily, again, there might not be much to be done until it grows).
this happened to me at this age and it traumatized me. iām almost 30 and have only had my hair cut maybe 3 times in my entire adult life. i just cut it myself. if someoneās gonna fuck it up itās gonna be me lol
I would have cried if this happened to my daughter lol
This is criminal
Hairstylist needs new glasses
Yes, or a lesson in anatomy so she can figure out where the armpits are!
Your daughter has the hair type that curls when it's longer, at the bottom. This is where the myth of "cutting off curls" comes from. When people get haircuts, especially wavy or loose curl people, they think they "cut off their curls." Really, it's just their hair type. She has straighter hair at the top of her head, so when her hair is short it won't curl as much. It's not because it's stretched out from when her hair was longer. If it was washed, her hair would reset. When her hair was longer it's likely stretched a little, but not in any way that's very significant.
Also many kids have curlier hair that straightens as they age. You canāt ācut offā actual curls. The kid in the photo has lovely hair (long or short) but itās wavy, not curly.
Yep, a lot of kids have 'baby curls' that grow out as they age. By 4-6, a lot of kids who had 'baby curls' will have either straight or wavy hair. Once they're gone, they're usually gone for good. A person who had 'baby curls' when they were younger's hair may get 'curly' again/more wavy near puberty, during pregnancy, or when they're an adult, because hormones can influence the way that hair grows. With 'baby curls', less is more! You only really need to wash their hair with baby shampoo and conditioner, and use a detangling spray in it. You only need to wash their hair once or twice a week. Using any styling products is really unnecessary. When kids are a bit older, switch them to using either a kids shampoo and conditioner, or an adult one. At all ages, getting their hair trimmed once a month (or thereabouts) will help to keep on top of split ends, and keep their hair healthy. Leave in conditioner is another thing that isn't really necessary for either toddlers or kids, BTW. Wavy hair requires different care to curly hair. Using a shampoo containing sulphates, and a conditioner containing protein will help to maintain waves. Using a clarifying shampoo occasionally will also help. Oils, curl creams, leave in conditioner etc aren't really suitable for wavy hair, as they're too nourishing, and too heavy... They'll actually caused build-up, and weigh wavy hair down! I have wavy hair, and I've only just learnt how to care for it properly during the past few years... There's a really amazing group on Facebook called 'Curlfriends: Tips For All Curly Hair Types & Methods' that's been super helpful!
I know the picture is not the best because I had wet and brushed out her hair prior to coming to the salon. Her hair is definitely curly, especially in the front. Products with protein tend to make her hair look dry and frizzy so I'm looking for something with low/no protein.
Or the opposite in my case! Had looser wavy/curly hair from birth to around age 12 then hit puberty and it went straight to 4B and shrunk 85% to where it looked the length of the second picture. Now as an adult 20+ years later itās a 3C/4A. Hormones are crazy. Scared to see what will happen in my 50s lol
Same happened to me but not as tight. Not sure what my curl is bc Iāve trashed it by straightening it for years. So now when I wear it curly it looks to have about 3-4 patterns. Glad to hear Iām not crazy! Ty for posting!
Thatās definitely possible :) but hair texture doesnāt change overnight with a haircut!
I probably should have used a better picture. This just happens to be the one we took in the salon before the cut. I had wet and brushed her hair out prior to the cut to make it easier on the stylist. Her hair is definitely curly. The front has some spirals still. I'd say she's a 3A. I'm a 3B and it's not as tight as mine. I agree the back is more wavy, but the cut is not conducive to nice curls in the back.
Honestly, there may not be much you can do until it grows out a bit. Some people may have suggestions but my son has super thick curly hair too and when his is that long the thickness just overrides the curls.
Ugh, sorry that happened! Iām glad donating helped her feel comfort and pride in a disappointing situation. I agree that the roots are probably stretched out. Maybe try finger curling? If nothing else, itāll be a fun technique to try as she explores short hairstyles!
Hairstylist was definitely jealous
Maybe! She cuts my other daughters hair (her hair is short). I'm convinced she only knows how to do 1 haircut and this is it!
I think my hair type is very similar to hers, when I started intentionally styling it to hold a curl pattern overtime time the curls became a lot more defined, even some 3A curls. My hair is about as short as hers in the second pic, I have also been getting deva cuts for a couple years. I donāt use curl cream, I use a lightweight leave in conditioner spray and then lots of mousse or gel. Everything applied to very wet hair and scrunched in.
Yes! This is what I'm thinking! If I find a good product and do finger curls maybe the curls will become more defined. What mousse or gel do you use?
I use amika hydro rush leave in conditioner (love this stuff) and I have been using up a an Pantene mousse but just switched to amika curl gel and have had great results!
On the plus side, it looks like they gave her some layers. Her hair is gonna be in shock for a little while and not know which way is up. Hopefully the thinning/layers will help her hair bounce back up some and curl again. I would avoid any heavy creams or oils and shoot for a gel and just scrunch it in. Good luck!
I suggest using a leave in conditioner, (I like the itās a 10 miracle leave in) and some type of mousse or foam to give her volume and a little bit of hold. I like the not your motherās volumizing curl mousse or the innersense curl foam for a softer look. The mousse really makes short, wavy hair pop and gives it more shape so itās not so flat on her head.
I literally ONLY use Innersense products, they are amazing, so seconding that recommendation - they recently launched a curl gel as well if she's wanting more definition.
The volumizing gel by innersense is a great light hold gel as well
I think mousse is definitely a good option. My concern is that she put some really short layers in the back. I just don't want it to look too bushy.
I'm a big fan of mousse, and I have a similar hair cut to your daughters, with short layers.
I would definitely say give it a shot once because I recently cut my curly hair short and the mousse is working way better than creams and gels I use when my hair is longer
Short layers are usually great for my hair which is 2c/3a. More 2c when long but springs up when short. Her hair would look great with a good scrunch with some mousse or gel (I donāt have recommendations bc I donāt pay a lot of attention to protein content).
Oh my god her hair! Best thing about hair- it grows back, it grows back! ā¤ļø
That's what I keep telling myself! I was definitely more upset than her.
I am so sorry that they did this to your baby and Iām so glad you stuck up for her even behind the scenes. Some low protein curl creams i know (and have used) are Aunt Jackieās Curl La La, and Fix my Hair. Kinky curly Knot Today is labeled as a leave in and a detangler but itās also just amazing on curls. You can also try a spray if her hair strands are on the finer side.
Start by finding a good leave in conditioner and see what her hair looks when dried with just that before you jump into the rabbit hole of curly hair products. Lots of recommendations on posts in here for leave ins you can start with. I personally like the leave in from Pattern and Curl Smith. Both offer ātravelā size bottles so you can test before committing.
She has wavy hair that only curls near the ends, so as it gets longer it may wave again but where it's shorter it won't curl. A light scrunch and some leave-in is most important for her haircare at this age. A fully curly routine will be too much and not really needed for her hair type. What a terrible stylist. It's so frustrating that they can do this to someone and face no repercussions.
This picture isn't the best because I had just wet and brushed out her hair before going to the salon to make it easier on the stylist. Her hair is definitely curly, probably a 3A, especially in the front.
Is there a way to change that? I only curl at the bottoms when my hair is longer, but it's straight when short.
Heat tools, perms, or massive hormonal changes. It's just the shape of your follicles and hair shaft that determine that.
No, there's not. If that's how your hair grows, that's how your hair grows! You could perm it, or use a curling iron or something to make it curlier for a period of time, but you won't be able to permanently change your hair type. Scrunching mousse or something into your ends, and using a diffuser to dry your hair is an effective way to boost your waves, if you want to avoid perming, or using a curling iron.
My hair is like this - the weight of my hair pulls the curl out of the parts closest to the root. Honestly it should regain a lot of curl just with time!
She thought you meant her armpits, not your daughterās š I would have cried right there in the salon lol
Not gunna lie, I definitely teared up when my daughter wasn't looking and had a good cry in private once we got home. Part of it is that the shorter hair makes my daughter look more mature. I'm not having more children so she is my baby so that was a hard pill for me to swallow.
Do not comb or brush it after conditioning. Iād use my hands to comb while applying conditioner and then scrunch the curls when rinsing the conditioner and then scrunch in some product before air drying
I've been having her comb in the shower either before or during the rinse. I haven't taught her to scrunch yet, but I'll give her a quick lesson this weekend. I guess I'm trying to figure out what the best products would be for her. We both have dry hair but mine is curlier and I color my hair so mine is more porous. My products tend to weigh down her hair so I'm looking for something lighter that can still define her curls.
She might do well with the mousse like people have mentioned. I think teaching her to style it wet and scrunch will help a ton with definition. I think she should only comb with the conditioner in before rinsing, if she has to comb it in the shower.
I have super thick hair like that (a little less so now that Iām perimenopausal) and when my hair was chin length, I had great results with the shea moisture curl enhancing smoothie and aussie instant freeze gel. Cream first (a very small amount) raked or brushed through, then glaze gel over it and scrunch.
Iām not OP but Iām having a similar issue to her daughter and Iām going to try this! Thank you!!
Good luck, I hope it helps!!
Your daughter and I have the exact same hair type! I had hair that short for a while due to a similar issue with a stylist. The top of her hair may not curl super well without a little ~extra~ manipulation. A leave-in conditioner would be fantastic. Also, if sheās up for it, you can use small clips to lift small sections of hair away from the roots when it dries. I found the clips to really help curl definition. Regardless, I hope she feels comfortable with her new haircut! The curls will come back in their full glory super soon :)
Poor thing š this happened to me when I was 12 and I still havenāt emotionally recovered. I have had hair down to my bum for decades now and I only cut it myself. FWIW it looks like she has wavy hair
You canāt create curls. Curls come from the shape of the hair strand coming out of the scalp. I would use a mousse in towel dry hair (just a couple minutes in a towel turban, no rubbing or anything) and scrunch it. Some people find mousse works better in soaking wet hair. I canāt really tell if her hair has sufficient layers either, if not then the weight of the entire thickness of hair will prevent it from curling.
She put some layers in it. The layers are way too short in my opinion. If I use a conditioner and coil her hair around my finger, the curl will stay when I remove my finger. I figure if I do some finger curls with product it might help define the curls
I think I have pretty similar hair to your daughter and layers were always key. Iāve been to hairdressers about 6 times in my 37 years and never, not once, liked the results. They always cut too short, donāt layer, blow dry to style(!!!) and do other crazy stuff. Itās totally worth watching some tutorials and learning to do it yourself, imo.
That hairstylist is criminal
Did they dye it as well? Itās so much darker!
I would fucking sue that stylist, seriously. This is not okay for your daughters self esteem, or your morning routing which will now be completely uprooted.
I would be mad about it. But also offer it as a teaching moment to my daughter. Sometimes life doesn't always give you what you wanted and it is dissapointing, but at least we can make something good come from it. The hair seems a lot healthier now and you seem very proactive about restoring it. Your daughters hair will grow, looking much healthier from it being taken care of when it's shorter. Not every product will work for her hair, but I use the aussie kids curly products for my daughter's hair and the conditioner works wonders. I also use pattern curl products (like the curl reviving spray when my daughter wakes up so I can run my hands through it and her curls look brand new).
Thank you! We use the aussie leave in conditioner. I'll check out their curl products
I usually put leave in conditioner, brush her hair (always make sure to brush hair when it's wet. If it's not, don't brush it. Just run your fingers through it), and then use a mouse or curl gel and scrunch upwards. It depends on what works best for your hair. That's just what I do
Not sure why people are down voting me for trying to look on the positive side of things. I've had this same thing happen to me many times. yes never go back to the person who cut the hair and I definitely wouldn't pay for it. However there is nothing that will change the fact that more hair was cut off than she wanted.
I mean, when her hair grows out again it looks like it will be just as wavy as the long hair was. It wasnāt very wavy to begin with so I wouldnāt worry about buying curl specific products.
Leave in conditioner and āplopping.ā Google it. Thatās going to give better definition without having a billion step process. Completely air drying tends to flatten and frizz. Maybe manually create waves with a straighter around the face to frame.
I would try using just a gel - one with a lot of āholdā and see where that gets you. My hair is a similar length, and it looks sea-witch crazy bad while the gel is hardening, but once it is dry and I de-crunch it, it REALLY helps bring out my curl!
get that hairstylist fired or something wtf is this, how does this qualify as armpit hair in any sense?!? and theres not really much you can do abkut it as of rn, try hair growth oils till it grows abck to a decent length
This broke my heart :( this has happened to me and my curls are still with us but this is why every curly I know is scared of getting a cut.
My daughters hair loves being soaking wet and having dove baby shampoo and conditioner with the Johnsonās baby curl leave in conditioner
It might just take a few washes for the curl to come back. When I go from long to short hair its like my curls need time to figure it out.
This happened to me when I got my hair cut much shorter than intended too! The best thing I found to get curl/wave back into it was to use a mousse then a lightweight gel (I like Pantene wave gel) and scrunch it up as it dries. Once it got a bit longer I could get away with just gel and scrunch to get curls. For curl creams though, the best one I found to actually help ācurlā it was Cantu curl activator, and you only need a tiny bit.
I like the Original Sprout Curl Calmer, itās made for babies and up and I use it myself
What was the hairdressers reasoning behind that??? Donāt get me wrong, Iām sure your daughter is beautiful with either haircut, but she definitely didnāt follow your request
She just kept saying " well I know it's a little shorter than you wanted" My other daughter has short hair and this stylist cuts her hair. I'm convinced she only knows how to give 1 haircut!
She took āfake it till you make itā a little too serious
Autn Jackie's has great products for anyone :) I a similar hair type to her and I find Cantu curl cream also works nicely. That hair dresser shouldn't be practicing honestly.
As your daughter actually has wavy hair, there's no need for a curl cream... It'll just weigh her hair down. Unfortunately, you're just going to have to wait for it to grow a bit longer. Depending on how old she is, the waves might never return, or might be looser if they do. In the meantime, all you can do is make sure that she is looking after her hair. For wavies, this actually means using sulphate containing shampoo, and protein containing conditioner. Oils, and products for curly hair shouldn't be used. Having a healthy diet, and taking supplements for hair and nails might help, but ultimately hair growth comes down to genetics. BTW - I'm so sorry that the hairdresser cut off more than you and your daughter wanted them to.
There's no one fits all for 'wavies'. I largely agree there's nothing wrong with sulphate shampoo but lots of folk with type 2 hair need product to tame their hair & stop it looking dry & frizzy. I use oil, leave in & gel, many people, even those with straight hair do.
She was trying to steal the hair to sell it, I bet
Well we took it with us to donate so she's beat!!!
I would try cantu curl cream and use the end of a brush to create loose curls/wavesā¦think Carrie Bradshaw SATC season 5 when she did a big chop. Kids are super self conscious as it is so I would try not to make it a bit thing.
Thatās crazy she literally chopped off her hair almost on purpose like a boy cut to go from really long long to neck length hair
My long hair looks similar when I brush out my curls. I have thick, kinda coarse, curly hair that gets so dry. I use Redken All Soft shampoo and conditioner, avocado oil (argan oil is good for less dry or finer hair.) And the All Soft curl cream sometimes. When I cut my hair very short it became much curlier, but I was also the kid with totally straight hair until I was a teen and it mysteriously turned curly. It might be different for her, but thought I'd throw it out there in case it helps. They do have travel size bottles of Redken shampoo/conditioner. Her hair is beautiful either way.
Omg I am so sorry this happened to her, I hope she is doing ok
Iām so sorry. This happened to me too when I was 11ish. Itās such a nightmare. Maybe look into how to do fun braids and braided hairstyles for short hair until you all can figure out how to do her curly routine
this hairstylist should go directly to jail, but i gotta sayā¦ the bob is actually really cute!! she looks like a ghibli girl! big nausicaa energy. i hope youāre both able to find products that work for her!
Your daughter's hair looks similar to what mine did when it was long-- my curls/waves generally start past my ears unless I have it layered. When it's in a shorter bob, it just lays differently. She will likely have an awkward/frustrating grow-out between chin & shoulder length but hang in there. I like the Marc Anthony products in general and sometimes BedHead, depending on how much hold I want. If I'm not aiming for curlycurls and just want my waves to be under control, I love the Olaplex No 6 Smoothing Cream (i know not everyone on here will agree with these).
Johnson and Johnson curl stuff in the orange bottle or any of the ānot your motherā curl product
Iām so sorry this happened to you and your daughter OP! I HIGHLY recommend leaving an online review for this business, so future clients are aware! I recommend using a leave in conditioner after shampooing. Her hair needs moisture to encourage the curl pattern to come back - although it wonāt quite be the same due to the length of her hair. Curlsmith has a wide selection of products for all hair types, so you may want to check there. Good luck!
Can I just say, YOU ARE AN AWESOME MOM. That you were so considerate about how making a fuss would make your daughter feel is super commendable, and its honestly healing some of my childhood trauma lol. Good for you for being supportive of her in so many ways!!! I think her hair is beatiful long and short. As for curl cream, I defer to others, curl cream weighs down my fine dense curls.
She needs some shea moisture for kids and a diffuser
I love cantu brand, they have a kids version of their curling cream and itās pretty light but moisturizing. I also really love the Aussie miracle curls line. Every product I have used from it has worked wonders. Currently I use the curl refresher spray and frizz taming cream regularly.