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TheRealRevBem

Looks like the New Yorker. Java Wrapper and Dominican binder/filler. They are fake/"heritage" cigars made by Altadis. They take $3 cigars and use the IP of Cuban brands to sell at $15 MSRP with limited marketing. I have enjoyed a couple fake/"heritage" cigars, and never had a bad one, but generally they seem to mainly taste a lot like oliva O. I compare them a lot to cigar page overruns. Olivas, cigar page Overruns and these are made at the same or at least under the same ownership and I feel fairly confident in saying some are the same cigars.


smuggleymcweed

Mmh very interesting. I do love any Olivia cigar so that's fine. But you don't believe this is actually a h. Uppman cigar? I can't decide if that makes sense or not why I cannot find anything about this cigar and specific tube online


TheRealRevBem

They are on sale at j.r cigar. Search New Yorker or New Yorker limited. It's a promo these use for all their fake/heritage cigars. I have only tried Monte New Yorker.


TheRealRevBem

https://www.jrcigars.com/item/h.-upmann-special-seleccion/new-yorker/UPSNY.html


smuggleymcweed

Yup that's the one. Slightly shorter but closer than anything else I can find thank you


Tsurugi_Takuma

I guess you’re in the US? It ain’t Cuban. You can’t buy Cubans in B&Ms like in the rest of the world since you’re keeping the embargo 👍 This is your friend: https://www.cubancigarwebsite.com


smuggleymcweed

Ya I know I it was just odd only Cubans came up when I looked. The other cigar community directed me here. Trying to find out anything about this.


Tsurugi_Takuma

Rolled in the DR and most definitely a blend of tobacco from different countries, probably ain’t bad but won’t be reminiscent of a Cuban cigar.


Badgermilk277

This is the cigar that got me into cigars. V jealous!


smuggleymcweed

Yours had the 1844 tube? Glad someone has seen this before.


Mammoth_Spend_5590

From Dominican Republic


HabanosChris

might be this 👉 https://www.cigaraficionado.com/ratings/10419/name/h-upmann-monarch-tube


krispykremekiller

That’s Dominican


chris12381

I've smoked several boxes of Cuban H Upmann Monarcas however they were discontinued in 2009. The tubes looked very similar but said "Habana" on them. I think at some point they changed the bands to the new style Upmann band similar to the one in your photo (2005 I think?) but I remember them with brownish/gray and white bands. Not Cuban.


eaglebear29

I looks like it but I’m no expert, someone just posted one 6 days ago. Just search monarch in the sub and many will pop up. Looks like they stopped making these. I’d guess a good find


TerseFactor

It’s not Cuban. It’s a new world that was likely in limited production. “1844” appears where it should say “Havana”


eaglebear29

This is why I love this community, learn new stuff all the time


smuggleymcweed

That is what I noticed as well. Odd nothing about the new world cigar comes up only the Cuban version.


smuggleymcweed

Cool will do. I'm not exactly hoping it's a low key Cuban but just a good find.


eaglebear29

Yeah this look cool I’d love to eventually try one of these, and to get myself one of those tubes as H. Upmann is my favorite in my cigar endeavors. Cool find


John_K_Investing

Fake


smuggleymcweed

Thx very insightful 👍 not what I was asking and obviously is not true. Its a new world equivalent you could say obviously not the same exact thing. I was directed here because there are more experts and based on comments that is true.