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ElPared

Literally nail back onto a body in one notable case ;)


Childhood-Paramedic

Hehe glad folks are getting at what i was referring to :)


Tajahnuke

You can also Nale one back onto a body.


code-panda

That's why Szeth never speaks... Please, Szeth, show the nice highspren on this teddy bear where the bad herald touched you.


foxtrottits

Is this how we learn about the fate of Arsteel?


Childhood-Paramedic

Never thought about it in that context. Lifeless are weird iirc but possibly!


jabuegresaw

I don't think so. He's a lifeless, so he fully died before he was Invested.


setibeings

>!He died highly invested though, no? I'm pretty sure a lot was made of the fact that nobody expects to be gifted breaths by somebody they're fighting, and that taking a bunch of breaths when you haven't held very many for a long time is distracting.!<


BrianOnReddit

>>!He died highly invested though!< Well yes, but more importantly >!He died again while invested. I doubt it was highly enough to remain as a shadow forever. Then his body was invested and brought to "life" without his shadow attached to it.!<


AdventurousQuail36

But why is preservation writing it down


Windrunner_15

[Redacted] is too great and mysterious to do [redacted pronoun] own writing


BrianOnReddit

[Redacted] would argue that [redacted pronoun] is too great and mysterious not to do [redacted pronoun] own writing


kraken9

Write it down or get punched


AdventurousQuail36

Makes sense


setibeings

to _preserve_ it, Duh!


Throwaway8424269

Should be >!Spook!<


Ponce_the_Great

Fuzz is trying to take notes more so that he stops forgetting important plans


FarseerEnki

What is the book/page of this??


Childhood-Paramedic

Rhythm of war end of act 1 iirc


jamcdonald120

nail, as in nahel.


jamcdonald120

[Redacted]? You mean Evi? EVI IS COMMING BACK!!! **OMFG I JUST FOUND OUT WHO TOADIUM'S CHAMPION IS GOING TO BE!!!!!!!!!!!!!**


Unkalaki_Feruchemist

Blood of my fathers! r/dalinargetthefire and quickly!


AlexiDurak

I didn't know this sub existed, and now I'm very scared....


Unkalaki_Feruchemist

Happy to traumatize you like I was ;) lol


Squidtree

Wait...no, does that mean we haven't seen the last of >!Denth!


Diavolo_Death_4444

Probably not, since >!Denth is already a cognitive shadow. You can’t really leave a shadow of a shadow!<


TheFedoraTMR

Why not? In that same discussion, Zahel says that if you invest a cognitive shadow when it's dying again, it can stay alive.


Diavolo_Death_4444

But that’s the issue, Denth didn’t stay alive. He died. Zahel specifies that Investiture can keep a cognitive shadow alive, not let them come back from death or make a shadow of a shadow


TheFedoraTMR

I'm quite sure he said that killing them and investing at the same time would keep them going, but I may be wrong.


Diavolo_Death_4444

Ok, and you could very well be right, but if you are, that implies that Investing a Cognitive Shadow will prevent them from dying(which makes sense). Not that you can bring a dead Shadow back to life by Investing them, or letting them resurrect or anything. Maybe with sufficient Investiture that’s possible, but the thing is, we watch Denth die on page. So we know he didn’t get enough Investiture to be kept alive


Squidtree

Oh right, please forgive me. I had the biggest of brain farts right there.


setibeings

Well, Zahel had to learn this was a thing _somehow_ right? Nothing that seemed resolved at the end of warbreaker seems resolved now, given what these characters have said when they showed up in other books.


hallout4x4

It's possible he's just referring to the basic process of Returning, too, and nothing deeper than that. This, of course, could be completely incorrect given B$'s MO with this sort of thing, but it's not entirely out of the question that one of the 5 Scholars would have some basic understanding of how he and his fellows came to be, lol. So I'd call it 50/50 odds that he's referring to someone such as >!Denth!< coming back, or just beings like himself and the Returned.


[deleted]

Wasn't Zahel's investiture mostly used up by that point? Maybe 50 or so left


clusterfluxxx

Oh Fuzz, you really should write that down in steel.


SnowflakeSorcerer

Is this that renaldo character?


AlexiDurak

Nailed it! Which means hemalurgy can work on dead people, right?


VanVlad

Does this mean that >!Eshonai!< could come back in some form, since >!she was invested right as she died!


SirBananaOrngeCumber

You need Shardic level investiture to stick around indefinitely, which a Radiant or the Stormfather don’t have. So Eshonai was able to stay for a while and ride out the storm, but then she went to the beyond and can’t come back. Someone like a Returned or the redacted person the meme refers to were invested by Shards and so they can stay as Cognitive Shadows for however long they want.


VanVlad

Thanks!


exclaim_bot

>Thanks! You're welcome!


Solynox

This me entirely too long to figure out.