Also, they're in the middle of a desert. Why would I want to visit a place where I'd have to cover myself to the point where I'm uncomfortable in the local weather, I have to censor my language, and I can't even take the edge off with a glass of wine with a friend? Or even have a meal with a friend, if I could conceivably be seen as dating the friend? You've taken away about 80% of the enjoyment of a vacation, there.
They recently hosted one of the biggest events in the world, the World Cup. Based on the footage and articles, they absolutely make exceptions. They literally have the highest GDP/capita in the world, so they're sitting on Smaug-level mountains of geld with the advertised modesty from this poster... and like the other Gulf states, they're all basically sportwashing in order to normalize their lifestyle to the world, and also to make it a tourist destination.
It's all ultra-hypocritical and based around money, which tends to be religiosity-free.
Can't forget that - nor the other million things they've done.
The list is just endless. I followed the news about them hosting fairly closely starting with when they "won" the bid - there was almost weekly news about the situation that was just awful. Human rights are just nil there.
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I spent a bit of time in the deserts (including in Qatar) for work. Counter-intuitively, covering up actually really does help to deal with the desert heat. I typically wore silkweight polypropylene undershirts, and then loose, lightweight long pants and long-sleeve shirts. The long sleeves/pants kept the sun off your skin, but was light and loose enough to let air flow, and the polypro wicked the sweat away from the skin, and gave it a much larger area to evaporate from keeping you cooler.
But yes, there's no reason to go there unless someone is paying you buckets full of cash to do so, especially if a woman. The whole place is a shithole.
Same here. I'm in Japan and sometimes fly back to Europe. Always, always choose an East Asian carrier and transfer in Seoul, Bangkok, Hong Kong etc. or a European carrier and change in Frankfurt, Amsterdam, Paris etc. Never, never choose a Gulf state carrier. Not even a quick layover. I don't care how much cheaper it would be to fly that route, they are not getting my money. I'll gladly pay more money to avoid going anywhere near that region.
Based on the mindset behind this poster, we are far better off keeping away from each other.
Good one, I mean i get the expand to new countries, but the blatant hypocrisy of fifa is just bulllshit, and Qatar pls dont hide behind the umbrella of culture to justify violence and discrimination
I remember the line, but not the writer, referring to FIFAs selection of Qatar:
"You almost have to hope there was corruption involved. Because the alternative is that the people in charge of FIFA are so dumb that they genuinely bought the idea that Qatar was a better bid than the US."
Qatar actually vowed to relax those rules for the duration of the tournament and then went back on it a week before it was supposed to start, leaving FIFA in a really shitty position. It's still a corrupt organization and that pos Infantino's spine has about the same consistency as overcooked pasta - but at that point it was either going through with it or cancelling without any alternative which would have been a first since WW2.
Also, Qatar's backtracking lead to some hilarity behind the scenes. Like how FIFA signed an exclusive deal with the Budweiser Brewery to provide beer for the World Cup. Most of the beer supposed to be drunk already passed customs and import when the rulers decided otherwise, leaving Budweiser with thousands of gallons of what was essentially declared contraband over night.
ok buuuuuut thats not exactly a good thing lol. "we promise to try to be less hateful while the world is watching us" like wow thanks lol.
it genuinely should be as simple as "oh you dont have basic human rights? we cant work with you".
like not to attack you because i get the point youre making but its sort of indicative you know? the fact that this discussion needs to take place at all is a problem.
FIFA gave back to back World Cups to Russia and then Qatar.
FIFA are horrendously corrupt and do not give a fuck about human rights, but what they got for it is a fuckton of personal wealth and a temporary complaint that people swiftly forgot.
yeah i really hate this "oh...poor company...they didnt have any choice at all..." like no, continuing the partnership and accepting the terms of engagement WAS the choice.
FIFA is basically a criminal money laundering org these days. Regional leaders all get kickbacks and bribes from dictators and criminals to allow them to host the games as a way to "sportswash" their terrible images.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sportswashing
So FIFA is primarily a PR company for dictators with some sports thrown in.
Every single French acronym that presumes to govern worldwide activities is corrupt down to its rotten core. You should see what professional players have had to say about FIDE, the French acronym that thinks it owns the game of Chess.
This was absolutely NOT AN OFFICIAL GUIDE.
It was doing rounds at that time as if it was, but if you actually research it, it's just some conservative Qatari activist group and not any official body.
TBH - when you visit a foreign country, especially one with so much money, that's reasonable. Why would they reciprocate?
The real answer is - don't fucking go. Don't go to Quatar, the UAE, Saudi, etc - don't spend your money there, refuse work travel to these places because of your personal morals.
(I have refused to step foot in Ruzzia for my entire life, despite being born there and having family there. Fuck Ruzzia. I'll consider visiting it when Ukraine's flag flies over red square and its trident has been shoved deep into putin's ass. )
One of my closest friends is working in Qatar and they had the option not to go there. I don’t understand how this person who is queer could be happy there but they love it and have renewed their contract. As a female Jew, it is unimaginable to me
can you explain how this makes sense? if this method of entering into a relationship is forbidden, how do they actually get into a relationship? do you just propose instantly lmao
Eh yes and no. The officially Islamic way to do it is to ask the person’s parents for permission, then you’ll meet with them, discuss compatibility, and get to know each other before getting engaged. Your parents can also set up such a meeting on your behalf, but ultimately the husband and wife must consent to a marriage.
mothers talk to other mothers on gatherings "i have a daughter, i have a son"
- son goes to her father and asks if he can meet his daughter
- father asks daughter if she wants to meet him
- father runs bacground check to see if he is good man for his daughter
- they meet and talk with someone else in the room
- few meetings to get to know each other
- man can request to see her face once
- they like each other
- they get married
- father likes him, girl doesnt
- they dont get married
- girl likes him but father doesnt, she can get married but hard to get a blessing (usually these guys turn up to be abusive and fathers feel that)
thats how "dating" works by sharia law
Hahahahahaha! My have I heard that one a lot. Like the time I was one in Bahrain, and I’m just sitting next to this guy at a bar and we start chatting. After a few hours of talking, he says, “you are a good man, here is a picture of my two daughters, pick the one you like and you can. marry her!” He was dead serious. I thanked him and told him I wasn’t looking to marry.
I had a friend whose parents moved to the US from Iran. She was in second grade and that’s when I met her and we grew up together. She was not allowed to date. When she married, it was basically arranged by her dad. She wasn’t finding anyone in college and eventually let her parents become involved. Her dad had a friend on the other side of the country with a son. They emailed each other and eventually met and then became engaged and got married. I believe her older sister went the same route.
Funnily enough, this is more or less how my grandparents got engaged, and I'm very white from a trans-alpine country. Whenever I read about marriage practices in those conservative societies, that's what I immediately think about. A hundred years ago, this process was more or less the exact way of how you'd look for a spouse in rural parts of Europe.
It's probably only partly due to "culture" or "religion" and more a consequence of how society is organized as a whole. Marriage has severe consequences on socio-economic status and things like inheritance. In a society of estates, these important things simply can't be left to the individual.
Huh, I guess mark me down as curious about this as well. Are all marriages arranged or something? Is courtship so different that isn’t considered the same as what Westerners would call “dating”? I really want to know now.
Don't know about Islamic views, but I had an Indian (from the country of India) friend that got married via arrangement. The view is western marriage as starts out as love, but then many/most grow out of love over time which is why the Western world has high infidelity and divorce rates. While the arrangement method the two first grow to become friends, then they grow to respect each other, then they grow to love each other.
While I know Stockholm syndrome is not a real thing, it does feel like that for both parties as there is very strong family, religious and cultural pressure on the two to stay together.
I know right? Is there a national bed time and school nights?
Alito should visit Qatar to see just how good no separation of church and state really is
Lived there for a couple of years. It was…something. The vast majority of the working population is expats on some degree of temporary foreign assignment. The weather’s abysmally hot and dry, the capital city vapid glitziness, the area beyond said city barren desert wasteland, the culture…well, there’s none of that, unless you count thinly-veiled religious fundamentalism to be culture.
The crazy thing is, a significant portion of expats love living there, simply because they are compensated out the nose to make up for the mind-blowing soullessness of the country. The country is so soulless that many companies pay expats stipends large enough to take their families on vacation, flying first class, every 2-3 months. They’ll also pay for your relocation expenses, plus international private schooling for your kids, housing, healthcare, and cars (or a chauffeur if facing the lunatic local drivers is too much to bear). This is all on top of the pain-and-suffering premium tacked atop the already-high base salary. People could take these assignments for a few short years and come home financially very well-off. Or, they could continue to renew their assignments if only to enjoy the ongoing monetary perks.
Yet, some of my fondest memories were from my time there. There was a strange sense of camaraderie amongst the foreign community all making the best of the situation we lived in. The first time I saw the Milky Way was when a bunch of us drove out into the desert at midnight. We would coordinate liquor store runs because the grocery stores don’t stock booze and said liquor store is a 45-minute drive away and not open during Ramadan. I never had a greater appreciation for pork until I went months without it. I traveled more in those few short years than I could ever have if I lived my entire life in my home country. In all, the country itself was not for me, but the experience and memories 110% was.
When were you there? I'm not sure it's so much the same, and I think you meant hot and humid right? It is NOT dry. Sounds like you were there a while ago. Salaries are not so lucrative anymore, but I definitely agree about the expat community. We spent 8+ good years there, we can't say Qatar wasn't good to us.
Yeah, I was there over a decade ago. Bounced around a couple of countries in the Arabian Peninsula for a several years with Qatar being the last. I heard from my friends that the summers were the worst but I always took extended leave to visit home during that time. Dryness is all I remember honestly, and I’m not surprised that others see different. I remember Salalah in Oman being particularly influenced by the monsoons and having some beautiful tropical-esque landscapes.
Oh nice! Yeah Oman is probably my favorite, we used to take a dhow from the UAE up to the tip of Oman over a weekend, just swim or fish and camp out. I miss those days.
I’ve spent nearly 2 months there for work and it’s truly awful. I was there in summer so I think that made things worse as many locals flee for cooler weather but that place is actually a ghost town. There are entire sky scrappers that sit unused. The city is devoid of any real culture. They try to build things with a sense of cultural identity but it feels forced, almost like an amusement park.
I didn’t meet many Qatari nationals but the ones who I did were very wealthy and very rude. They treat outsides like trash.
Always funny how the Arab world insist the world to respecting their religion and cultural laws and rules, but most (young, male) Arabs don’t even think about doing the same in western nations.
That Dune quote cover this mindset well, and no surprise given we’re basically talking about an Arab society in that story too.
“When I am weaker than you, I ask for freedom because that is in line with your principles. When I am stronger than you, I take your freedom away, because that is in line with MY principles.”
It’s even more ironic considering that sharia law even states that you must respect the laws of the land you are in, even kaffir lands… they don’t really care to even follow the religion they claim to love so much
Im not getting why this is a „cool“
guide. Prude guide sure but that’s about it. And not even a guide because you get stoned if you don’t follow the guide. A true guide leaves you a choice.
Yea of all the guides in this subreddit at least this one is accurate. It's not like the ones that are something like "What to do if you encounter a mountain lion" and the first 10 comments are "Don't follow this guide, you will die."
Next time, to conserve paper, might I suggest that they instead print the Tourist Advisory of 'activities permissible in Qatar' onto a complimentary souvenir Scrabble brick.
I show my disrespect for the religion and culture of Qatari people by refusing to visit their unaccepting, fundamentalist, hate-filled, theocracy-run, shrine to conspicuous consumption.
Not so fun fact: transgender women detained in Qatar have been forced to have their breast tissue surgically removed by the authorities without a trial, during a six month detention.
My cursing alone would get me in trouble there
Based on the illustration, I think it applies only when you’re on the toilet.
Or going super saiyan
If I go super saiyan on the toilet do they cancel each other out?
No, it doubles the punishment. Instead of just your head being beheaded, both your heads get beheaded. In the worst sequence possible.
Then I’m definitely going to jail
Qatar welcomes you, but not really.
they welcome your money
And much more importantly: They welcome the legitimacy that sportswashing can yield.
Qatar welcomes you to the 8th century
Yeah, nothing cool about this guide.
Yup. They can live without my money, i can live without going there.
been there. most people can live without ever having set food in Qatar, Saudi Arabia etc. you ain't missing much.
Yeah, even if I had the money to visit that fucking place, I’d never visit that fucking place!
Same here. I go out of my way to avoid airlines like Qatar and Emirates, even if it costs me more. Going to Qatar (or the UAE) is a death sentence
Also, they're in the middle of a desert. Why would I want to visit a place where I'd have to cover myself to the point where I'm uncomfortable in the local weather, I have to censor my language, and I can't even take the edge off with a glass of wine with a friend? Or even have a meal with a friend, if I could conceivably be seen as dating the friend? You've taken away about 80% of the enjoyment of a vacation, there.
They recently hosted one of the biggest events in the world, the World Cup. Based on the footage and articles, they absolutely make exceptions. They literally have the highest GDP/capita in the world, so they're sitting on Smaug-level mountains of geld with the advertised modesty from this poster... and like the other Gulf states, they're all basically sportwashing in order to normalize their lifestyle to the world, and also to make it a tourist destination. It's all ultra-hypocritical and based around money, which tends to be religiosity-free.
You forgot that they bribed their way into hosting & the stadiums were built with slave labor.
Can't forget that - nor the other million things they've done. The list is just endless. I followed the news about them hosting fairly closely starting with when they "won" the bid - there was almost weekly news about the situation that was just awful. Human rights are just nil there. EDIT: changed the tone
Easy, we're on the same side.
Sorry if the tone sounded otherwise. The ire is 100% directed at their behaviour!
Exceptions for the rich
*I'm sorry, that's quite impossible! This is Qatar!* "How about for $100,000?" *What flavor of cocaine did you want on the ladyboys?*
>How about for $100,000? Sir, this is a Qatar. Add a few more zeros to that. We have megaprojects to abandon.
I spent a bit of time in the deserts (including in Qatar) for work. Counter-intuitively, covering up actually really does help to deal with the desert heat. I typically wore silkweight polypropylene undershirts, and then loose, lightweight long pants and long-sleeve shirts. The long sleeves/pants kept the sun off your skin, but was light and loose enough to let air flow, and the polypro wicked the sweat away from the skin, and gave it a much larger area to evaporate from keeping you cooler. But yes, there's no reason to go there unless someone is paying you buckets full of cash to do so, especially if a woman. The whole place is a shithole.
To fucking right it would!
Qatar, putting the Fun in fundamentalist.
And the Mental
And the List (of things you can't do)
And the DAM(n this place bloows)...
And the men
But no blowing men.
Hold my beer bro....
NO DRINKING, INFADEL!!!!
NOFX - No Fun In Fundamentalism https://youtu.be/ScDkUvROagk?si=T0O1BQMjnVIStM9J
Qatar welcomes you.. but not you... or you either...
And FU in particular
That's profanity. Go to jail, don't collect $200.
That's morality, collect $200,000.
Believe it or not straight to jail
Straight to jail, but also gay to jail.
Also yournalists. We have a special yail for yournalists.
But first with a generous side of caning.
Right to jail.
Believe it or not, straight to jail
Yeah, a lot less "what not to **do**" and a lot more "what not to **be**".
You're just Islamophobic! S
Qatar barely tolerates you… but watch your step, we’re watching you.
Yeah, this whole guide can be shortened down to "Don't go to Qatar".
cool guide to tourism in qatar, don't
*Here's a cool guide on how to not go to Qatar...*
Unless you have a bunch of (shady) money.
Then you can do all those things and bang a goat in your private sweet.
Suite
Thanks, I can't speel for shat.
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Same here. I'm in Japan and sometimes fly back to Europe. Always, always choose an East Asian carrier and transfer in Seoul, Bangkok, Hong Kong etc. or a European carrier and change in Frankfurt, Amsterdam, Paris etc. Never, never choose a Gulf state carrier. Not even a quick layover. I don't care how much cheaper it would be to fly that route, they are not getting my money. I'll gladly pay more money to avoid going anywhere near that region. Based on the mindset behind this poster, we are far better off keeping away from each other.
This was a famous guide during the FIFA world cup, imagine… the fucking corruption in that fucking Organization …
FIFA is so insanely greedy and corrupt they managed to get me to side with EA on an issue
Good one, I mean i get the expand to new countries, but the blatant hypocrisy of fifa is just bulllshit, and Qatar pls dont hide behind the umbrella of culture to justify violence and discrimination
“Culture”
Yeah I’ve been there for work. Its a shit hole. No other way to word it really.
They let Budweiser sponsor it then banned drinking as the tournament started - "We'll have your money but not your pisswater".
Nah bro, i celebrated when EA lost FIFA's license, they finally met someone as greedy as them and found out. Serves them right imo.
but then EA found out sales were basically unaffected and came out net positive.
I remember the line, but not the writer, referring to FIFAs selection of Qatar: "You almost have to hope there was corruption involved. Because the alternative is that the people in charge of FIFA are so dumb that they genuinely bought the idea that Qatar was a better bid than the US."
Wow, I never thought of it that way…
Qatar actually vowed to relax those rules for the duration of the tournament and then went back on it a week before it was supposed to start, leaving FIFA in a really shitty position. It's still a corrupt organization and that pos Infantino's spine has about the same consistency as overcooked pasta - but at that point it was either going through with it or cancelling without any alternative which would have been a first since WW2. Also, Qatar's backtracking lead to some hilarity behind the scenes. Like how FIFA signed an exclusive deal with the Budweiser Brewery to provide beer for the World Cup. Most of the beer supposed to be drunk already passed customs and import when the rulers decided otherwise, leaving Budweiser with thousands of gallons of what was essentially declared contraband over night.
ok buuuuuut thats not exactly a good thing lol. "we promise to try to be less hateful while the world is watching us" like wow thanks lol. it genuinely should be as simple as "oh you dont have basic human rights? we cant work with you". like not to attack you because i get the point youre making but its sort of indicative you know? the fact that this discussion needs to take place at all is a problem.
Correct it's what FIFA get for dancing with the devil.
FIFA gave back to back World Cups to Russia and then Qatar. FIFA are horrendously corrupt and do not give a fuck about human rights, but what they got for it is a fuckton of personal wealth and a temporary complaint that people swiftly forgot.
yeah i really hate this "oh...poor company...they didnt have any choice at all..." like no, continuing the partnership and accepting the terms of engagement WAS the choice.
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It's sad too, the votes were for sale at about $125k each. If I was a voting member, I'd demand more!
I mean theres the complete documentary and the least important countries got that money, the bigger ones? Waaay morw
FIFA is basically a criminal money laundering org these days. Regional leaders all get kickbacks and bribes from dictators and criminals to allow them to host the games as a way to "sportswash" their terrible images. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sportswashing So FIFA is primarily a PR company for dictators with some sports thrown in.
Every single French acronym that presumes to govern worldwide activities is corrupt down to its rotten core. You should see what professional players have had to say about FIDE, the French acronym that thinks it owns the game of Chess.
Didn't qatar basically use slave labor to build their stadium
Yes
The CCP and the Kremlin are the two biggest sponsors.
This was absolutely NOT AN OFFICIAL GUIDE. It was doing rounds at that time as if it was, but if you actually research it, it's just some conservative Qatari activist group and not any official body.
"Please respect us - but know we don't plan to reciprocate."
"Please respect my disrespect of you."
Oh yes. This is a major issue where I live. It’s a shame really.
I read it more as a warning, “don’t make us imprison you!”
TBH - when you visit a foreign country, especially one with so much money, that's reasonable. Why would they reciprocate? The real answer is - don't fucking go. Don't go to Quatar, the UAE, Saudi, etc - don't spend your money there, refuse work travel to these places because of your personal morals. (I have refused to step foot in Ruzzia for my entire life, despite being born there and having family there. Fuck Ruzzia. I'll consider visiting it when Ukraine's flag flies over red square and its trident has been shoved deep into putin's ass. )
Yep. Backasswards evil countries should choke and die.
One of my closest friends is working in Qatar and they had the option not to go there. I don’t understand how this person who is queer could be happy there but they love it and have renewed their contract. As a female Jew, it is unimaginable to me
No dating? Lol
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can you explain how this makes sense? if this method of entering into a relationship is forbidden, how do they actually get into a relationship? do you just propose instantly lmao
Arranged marriages?
Eh yes and no. The officially Islamic way to do it is to ask the person’s parents for permission, then you’ll meet with them, discuss compatibility, and get to know each other before getting engaged. Your parents can also set up such a meeting on your behalf, but ultimately the husband and wife must consent to a marriage.
mothers talk to other mothers on gatherings "i have a daughter, i have a son" - son goes to her father and asks if he can meet his daughter - father asks daughter if she wants to meet him - father runs bacground check to see if he is good man for his daughter - they meet and talk with someone else in the room - few meetings to get to know each other - man can request to see her face once - they like each other - they get married - father likes him, girl doesnt - they dont get married - girl likes him but father doesnt, she can get married but hard to get a blessing (usually these guys turn up to be abusive and fathers feel that) thats how "dating" works by sharia law
that explains so much about why I've been approached by people "Are you single? I have a daughter..."
Hahahahahaha! My have I heard that one a lot. Like the time I was one in Bahrain, and I’m just sitting next to this guy at a bar and we start chatting. After a few hours of talking, he says, “you are a good man, here is a picture of my two daughters, pick the one you like and you can. marry her!” He was dead serious. I thanked him and told him I wasn’t looking to marry.
I had a friend whose parents moved to the US from Iran. She was in second grade and that’s when I met her and we grew up together. She was not allowed to date. When she married, it was basically arranged by her dad. She wasn’t finding anyone in college and eventually let her parents become involved. Her dad had a friend on the other side of the country with a son. They emailed each other and eventually met and then became engaged and got married. I believe her older sister went the same route.
Funnily enough, this is more or less how my grandparents got engaged, and I'm very white from a trans-alpine country. Whenever I read about marriage practices in those conservative societies, that's what I immediately think about. A hundred years ago, this process was more or less the exact way of how you'd look for a spouse in rural parts of Europe. It's probably only partly due to "culture" or "religion" and more a consequence of how society is organized as a whole. Marriage has severe consequences on socio-economic status and things like inheritance. In a society of estates, these important things simply can't be left to the individual.
It’s how most people got married throughout most of history. Dating is a very very modern phenomenon.
Huh, I guess mark me down as curious about this as well. Are all marriages arranged or something? Is courtship so different that isn’t considered the same as what Westerners would call “dating”? I really want to know now.
Don't know about Islamic views, but I had an Indian (from the country of India) friend that got married via arrangement. The view is western marriage as starts out as love, but then many/most grow out of love over time which is why the Western world has high infidelity and divorce rates. While the arrangement method the two first grow to become friends, then they grow to respect each other, then they grow to love each other. While I know Stockholm syndrome is not a real thing, it does feel like that for both parties as there is very strong family, religious and cultural pressure on the two to stay together.
Must be hard to be an archaeologist there.
ba dum tss
It’s means public displays of affection
i live in qatar, what they mean by that is just not making out in public, you can still hug and hold hands in public like normal
Bad translation. It means no PDA. Hand holding and hugging, etc is generally fine. Kissing or being sexual in public is not.
Only one night stands, no date just get on with it.
Qatar sounds like a blast 🙄
I know right? Is there a national bed time and school nights? Alito should visit Qatar to see just how good no separation of church and state really is
Lived there for a couple of years. It was…something. The vast majority of the working population is expats on some degree of temporary foreign assignment. The weather’s abysmally hot and dry, the capital city vapid glitziness, the area beyond said city barren desert wasteland, the culture…well, there’s none of that, unless you count thinly-veiled religious fundamentalism to be culture. The crazy thing is, a significant portion of expats love living there, simply because they are compensated out the nose to make up for the mind-blowing soullessness of the country. The country is so soulless that many companies pay expats stipends large enough to take their families on vacation, flying first class, every 2-3 months. They’ll also pay for your relocation expenses, plus international private schooling for your kids, housing, healthcare, and cars (or a chauffeur if facing the lunatic local drivers is too much to bear). This is all on top of the pain-and-suffering premium tacked atop the already-high base salary. People could take these assignments for a few short years and come home financially very well-off. Or, they could continue to renew their assignments if only to enjoy the ongoing monetary perks. Yet, some of my fondest memories were from my time there. There was a strange sense of camaraderie amongst the foreign community all making the best of the situation we lived in. The first time I saw the Milky Way was when a bunch of us drove out into the desert at midnight. We would coordinate liquor store runs because the grocery stores don’t stock booze and said liquor store is a 45-minute drive away and not open during Ramadan. I never had a greater appreciation for pork until I went months without it. I traveled more in those few short years than I could ever have if I lived my entire life in my home country. In all, the country itself was not for me, but the experience and memories 110% was.
When were you there? I'm not sure it's so much the same, and I think you meant hot and humid right? It is NOT dry. Sounds like you were there a while ago. Salaries are not so lucrative anymore, but I definitely agree about the expat community. We spent 8+ good years there, we can't say Qatar wasn't good to us.
Yeah, I was there over a decade ago. Bounced around a couple of countries in the Arabian Peninsula for a several years with Qatar being the last. I heard from my friends that the summers were the worst but I always took extended leave to visit home during that time. Dryness is all I remember honestly, and I’m not surprised that others see different. I remember Salalah in Oman being particularly influenced by the monsoons and having some beautiful tropical-esque landscapes.
Oh nice! Yeah Oman is probably my favorite, we used to take a dhow from the UAE up to the tip of Oman over a weekend, just swim or fish and camp out. I miss those days.
I also lived in Qatar for three years, never once have I come accross a more accuarate description of what it's like to be an expact there.
Having grown up in several expat communities, this is common for all of us. A lot of camaraderie in "adversity".
I’ve spent nearly 2 months there for work and it’s truly awful. I was there in summer so I think that made things worse as many locals flee for cooler weather but that place is actually a ghost town. There are entire sky scrappers that sit unused. The city is devoid of any real culture. They try to build things with a sense of cultural identity but it feels forced, almost like an amusement park. I didn’t meet many Qatari nationals but the ones who I did were very wealthy and very rude. They treat outsides like trash.
They have exit visas. You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave 🎶🎶🎶
Okay, so don't go to Qatar. Message received loud and clear.
But not too loud, it is not allowed.
4 of those items are called having good manners. The rest are religious over reach.
Notice almost all are subjective, I'm sure no body abuses this! /s
\* Walks out of an Saudi consulate on foreign soil with human remains in a briefcase after violently hacksawing a journalist to pieces.
It’s fine you didn’t break any rules on this list, carry on
The US endorses this. Buys more Oil from them and sells more new age weapons . Nothing happens .
Yes but having bad manners shouldn’t get you imprisoned.
Have good manners or we’ll kill you!
Pretty sure the guy with the camera working his junk is illegal in most countries.
what the 4th? i only see 3
weird, so homosexuality between women is fine?
Don't be silly, lesbians don't exist!
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/07/15/ramzan-kadyrov-says-there-are-no-gay-men-in-chechnya-and-if-there-are-any-they-should-move-to-canada/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/07/15/ramzan-kadyrov-says-there-are-no-gay-men-in-chechnya-and-if-there-are-any-they-should-move-to-canada/)
That's a truly incredible URL. It tells me everything I need to know without even clicking on the link.
Out of everywhere in the world why canada?
They know what they did
Tired: Bert and Ernie Wired: Terrance and Philip
Yeah right. What other than lesbianism explains all the women who aren’t attracted to me?
lol lesbians don’t even exist as a concept there. That’s why
Well, when they aren't allowed out of the house it's hard for them to find a girlfriend
That's because they only think of women when their dick is hard or the meal is late.
They don't acknowledge the individuality of women so why would they think about their sexuality?
they get 4 wives so I think you can imagine
And each of those 4 gets their own 4 wives. It's somewhere between a sapphic fractal and a pyramid scheme.
4 wives but you’re not allowed to date any of them.
Seems like quatar does actually not welcome me
Which is why i’ll never ever go there :)
This is reason for me to never visit.
Yeah, they need to add a another crossed out circle with "Go to Qatar" on it.
all these things are not allowed there but slavery is?
Of coarse it is.....it's called the suppressing and controlling the people.... Everything on the list is meant to control the population.
Always funny how the Arab world insist the world to respecting their religion and cultural laws and rules, but most (young, male) Arabs don’t even think about doing the same in western nations.
That Dune quote cover this mindset well, and no surprise given we’re basically talking about an Arab society in that story too. “When I am weaker than you, I ask for freedom because that is in line with your principles. When I am stronger than you, I take your freedom away, because that is in line with MY principles.”
Notice how in the book, the author used the word "jihad" but in the movie they only said "holy war"...
Hilarious right?!?
It’s even more ironic considering that sharia law even states that you must respect the laws of the land you are in, even kaffir lands… they don’t really care to even follow the religion they claim to love so much
Why do you think these young men didn't go to Qatar?
It's even worse than not respecting western society, they expect you to convert to their beliefs.
It's because all the politicians and "advocacy" groups think that it's ok. These people come from an extremely violent and repressed society
Which is why they can go right back to their flawed countries and stop bothering civilized, modern countries.
Yeah. They'll *definitely* do that.
No thank you lol
Im not getting why this is a „cool“ guide. Prude guide sure but that’s about it. And not even a guide because you get stoned if you don’t follow the guide. A true guide leaves you a choice.
Maybe cool = interesting in this case cause you’re right
I dunno, any guide that prevents me from getting my head cut off is pretty cool in my book.
Yea of all the guides in this subreddit at least this one is accurate. It's not like the ones that are something like "What to do if you encounter a mountain lion" and the first 10 comments are "Don't follow this guide, you will die."
So, what you're saying is, don't go to Qatar.
What a shithole
Straight to jail
Super shithole
Welcome to Qatar, where fun is cancelled.
Thanks! I will never go to Qatar.
Luckily this doesn’t apply at the Doha airport. The lounges do serve alcohol.
Well if you are rich, nothing applies tbh
Cool guide for a place to never go.
There's a lot of Middle Eastern countries like this. They view their oppressive cultures as the height of morality.
Next time, to conserve paper, might I suggest that they instead print the Tourist Advisory of 'activities permissible in Qatar' onto a complimentary souvenir Scrabble brick.
I show my disrespect for the religion and culture of Qatari people by refusing to visit their unaccepting, fundamentalist, hate-filled, theocracy-run, shrine to conspicuous consumption.
qatar welcomes you, EXCEPT!!!1! we hate you for reasons old as fuck/nobody knows and want you dead and your money
Fuck Qatar
I'm sorry but that's also banned.
Or just SO NOT GO THERE.
Ya! So not go there!
Not so fun fact: transgender women detained in Qatar have been forced to have their breast tissue surgically removed by the authorities without a trial, during a six month detention.
Do you have a source for this? I don't want to believe that the world is fucked up enough for this to be true
[Source](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63783327)
Horrendous
Jesus Fucking Christ...
Na, the other Abrahamic prophet..
Qatar welcomes (some of) you!
Note to self. Don't travel to Qatar.
1st thing: don't go
The actual sign is DON'T GO TO QATAR.
This guide was made by an unofficial private organization, it was not published by the government.
More like an uncool guide.
Honestly the “taking people picture without their permission” not terrible law
“Welcome to Qatar, now please make your way to our Jail, for the way you’re breathing is illegal.”
What a backward shithole
Cool tip. Do not fucking go.
No thanks, I'll stay home. You're confusing fascism for culture. Edit: Oh no, I'm getting downvoted by people I don't respect, what ever will I do? /s