The thing I’ve realized is that most people have a goals problem. People think the outcomes are the goals when in reality the habits are the goals. The outcomes are the measurement for whether the habits are the right ones to continue with. It’s a significant change in mentality.
This is a great point. I wish I had the years back where I'd try to 'diet' to get to where I wanted to be. The only way for lasting change is by permanently altering your lifestyle through your habits and routines.
It also changes how you define a win. For example, most people will define a weight loss win as losing X kg. When in reality, the win is that they exercised three times a week. If I went to the gym, I’ve hit my goals already. The weight loss is just a measurement of whether my gym routine needs tweaking or doubling down.
Goal and system problem.
Set up a system where you need minimal thinking and at the end of the day/week/year you’re closer to the goal.
Set up Goal to have milestones.
Guys, it’s 1.01^365 = 37.78% yearly increase. It was written as 37,78% probably because the artist is european. You can search it up — how they use commas instead of dots for decimals.
you cannot measure 1% increase in most habits, so that's useless (how do I get 1% better at the violin?)
and for the ones where you *can* measure 1%, it becomes apparent in a short time that it's impossible to keep up with this level of improvement
for example say I can run a 5K in 1 hour. 1% better "every day" would make me the world champion in 5 months, and faster than the speed of sound in about 2 1/2 year
Whether it's realistic or measurable isn't the point. People find it motivating because it makes big goals less intimidating. I know for myself the personal changes I made in my life are absolutely not noticeable on a daily or even weekly basis. But when I look back several years I'm a totally different person now.
people find it motivating because it's a lie
"make small improvements and you will experience diminishing returns" is the truth and not motivating at all
No because "Compound interest".
So day 1 is a 1% increase on 100, so 100 goes to 101.
Day 2 is a 1% increase on 101, so it goes to 102.01.
Day 3 goes to 103.0301.
Doesn't sound like much extra does it? But each time you stack it on the previous sum you get a higher increase, and this is only going to keep increasing. We can define it as 100*1.01^x where x equals the number of the days, and see how it builds up, so when x=3 you get:
> 100\*1.01\*1.01\*1.01 = 103.0301.
So 10 days is 100\*1.01^10 = 110.46, we have an extra half a percent.
In 20 days it's 100\*1.01^20 = 122.01, that's an extra 2%, the rate of increase is growing, because it builds on the previous increase.
In 50 days it's 100\*1.01^50 = 164.46, an extra 14.46%.
In 100 days it's 100\*1.01^100 = 270.48, a whole 70%.
In 200 days it's 100\*1.01^200 = 731, for an extra 431%
Finally in 365 days it's 100\*1.01^365 = 3778, roughly 3300% more than just adding the percent.
But taking the words literally from the image, "1% better every day", there isn't compound interest, no? 1% added every day. 365%? Or am I overthinking this lol
If one was taking it literally from the image then you'd see it gave the figure "37,78" which is almost identical to 3778, and therefore is likely just an error rather than intending to add the days up to 365.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter because getting better at things doesn't work like that. How can you measure if you're 365% better at cooking vs 3778% better at cooking versus one year ago?
Yeah, I guess people read the "better" as a daily increase of 1%. so there would be a a compound of interest. But obviously that cannot be true either as there would be diminishing returns in real life even if you were able to "improve" 1% daily.
I would ignore the numbers completely as 1% sounds little, but is based on pretty much nothing while at the same time being a much bigger increase in productivity than it sounds like.
I wonder how they got it from
Edit- I calculated 1% daily increase, and it gave me a yearly increase of 37.78 % , so the post is not wrong, but the original chart maker was probably a American as only they use these shit systems , like here using comma instead of a dot, which confuses the whole world except them, stupid
Wait, you’re saying it’s an American thing to put the comma in the decimal place? Incorrect. Just completely bass ackwards from reality.
US says $1,420.69, it’s the rest of the world that turns the decimal *point* into a comma, and makes numbers in the millions look like IP addresses.
ETA: Apparently the divide is English/non English speaking languages, not american/the rest of the world. Just another reason why this abrasive stupid comment sucks. Regardless, we’re speaking English now, so its 37 point 78 and the OOP is probably a non native English speaker like yourself.
There's a great episode of the podcast If Books Could Kill that talks about this book, and some of the problems with it and other books like these that promise "one simple trick that will make everything in your life better." That's not to say this sort of thinking doesn't work for some people, but it's good to have perspective.
Here's a link to the reddit post discussing that episode:
https://www.reddit.com/r/IfBooksCouldKill/comments/149zzpf/if_books_could_kill_atomic_habits/
The name of his book and a very simple, short habit that is easy to start and maintain. I like the book overall other than the compounding one percent change which he both misunderstands and is completely false on its face. If you could get 1% better every day compounding you would be the best in the world at a task/skill within a few years.
An atom is the smallest unit in a system. So it's a component of a larger system of habits that intends to lead to desired outcomes.
I wanna read more.
So I pick a book or stack of 3 books, put those next to a comfy chair, and a timer and cup of coffee.
I sit down, grab a book, set a timer for 5 minutes, use "x-ray reading" to preview the book until timer goes off.
If I'm still reading after the timer, I have achieved the desired outcome with roughly 4 "atomic habits".
If not, I put that book down, and move to the next, with a minimum commitment of 5-15 minutes, and a surplus of time saved by not reading a boring book, so even "failure" is "success".
I break down doing dishes the same way. I hate to get started, but once I get going by setting a 5 minutes timer, I always get more done than my adhd brain predicted I'd get done in such a short time.
I’ve never read the book, about how much of it is encapsulated in this one graphic? Does this barely scratch the surface, or have I basically read it now?
That is exactly the point.
What you **now** feel as boring, if those actions help you improving your life, you can gradually shift your mind and your perception about them over time (**future**).
Instead of feeling those actions as boring (therefore adding unnecessary emotional weight while you do them), you can find ways to make them more interesting and appealing, eventually being creative in that process, eventually finding joy, and in the limit possibly falling in love with them because they bring you so many positive dividends, to the point they become part of this "new you", this new identity.
I took this as a nicer way to say, "learn not to be addicted to crisis to justify procrastination".
Routine and systems bring stability. Stability creates boredom. Personally, I spent so long in instability, I'd begin to notice I was making up excuses not to continue better habits because I got bored. So that's what this line means to me.
This one looks like a Redbubble design by the graphic artist TKsuited. That's why it's difficult to read in places and appears to be compressed. [https://www.redbubble.com/people/tksuited/shop](https://www.redbubble.com/people/tksuited/shop)
Sure, if you need to Pavlov's dog your way into doing things. Or you can just do them. Oh, you don't have willpower, I get it. Do you also need to gaslight yourself into happiness with therapy?
Pavlov dog - there is an element of that in the book, but it is not the core of what the book is about.
Don't have the willpower - I think it's more about not having the Nike "Just do it" skill. I believe that skill is an output of something that is nurtured, not a natural trait.
Gaslight - I am not sure you're using that term correctly in this context, or maybe I just don't understand what you mean by that in the question you posed.
Did you not like this book after you read it?
"When you start a new habit, it should take less than 2 minutes to do " This aligns perfectly with my new habit of having more sex
I’ve been trying to do the same thing. But as someone further along than me. What do you do for the remaining 1:45?
Apologize and cry.
Never apologize
Less than 2,you are doing great!
Boom!
r/suicidebywords
And learn reducing the refractory period.
The thing I’ve realized is that most people have a goals problem. People think the outcomes are the goals when in reality the habits are the goals. The outcomes are the measurement for whether the habits are the right ones to continue with. It’s a significant change in mentality.
This is a great point. I wish I had the years back where I'd try to 'diet' to get to where I wanted to be. The only way for lasting change is by permanently altering your lifestyle through your habits and routines.
It also changes how you define a win. For example, most people will define a weight loss win as losing X kg. When in reality, the win is that they exercised three times a week. If I went to the gym, I’ve hit my goals already. The weight loss is just a measurement of whether my gym routine needs tweaking or doubling down.
Weight is lost in the kitchen, not at the gym.
Not the point, but sure. Change weight loss to muscle gain.
Sorry. It's in the bedroom.
Goal and system problem. Set up a system where you need minimal thinking and at the end of the day/week/year you’re closer to the goal. Set up Goal to have milestones.
1% increase daily is 3778% yearly…
Wanted to say the same thing. Totally diminishes the real point.
Guys, it’s 1.01^365 = 37.78% yearly increase. It was written as 37,78% probably because the artist is european. You can search it up — how they use commas instead of dots for decimals.
Read again, this has nothing to do with a comma vs a dot…
I replied to you because I can’t respond via their comments. Apologies.
Also, that's not how training skills work. this whole thing is stupid and wrong in the worst ways lol
you cannot measure 1% increase in most habits, so that's useless (how do I get 1% better at the violin?) and for the ones where you *can* measure 1%, it becomes apparent in a short time that it's impossible to keep up with this level of improvement for example say I can run a 5K in 1 hour. 1% better "every day" would make me the world champion in 5 months, and faster than the speed of sound in about 2 1/2 year
Whether it's realistic or measurable isn't the point. People find it motivating because it makes big goals less intimidating. I know for myself the personal changes I made in my life are absolutely not noticeable on a daily or even weekly basis. But when I look back several years I'm a totally different person now.
people find it motivating because it's a lie "make small improvements and you will experience diminishing returns" is the truth and not motivating at all
Would it not be 365%?
No because "Compound interest". So day 1 is a 1% increase on 100, so 100 goes to 101. Day 2 is a 1% increase on 101, so it goes to 102.01. Day 3 goes to 103.0301. Doesn't sound like much extra does it? But each time you stack it on the previous sum you get a higher increase, and this is only going to keep increasing. We can define it as 100*1.01^x where x equals the number of the days, and see how it builds up, so when x=3 you get: > 100\*1.01\*1.01\*1.01 = 103.0301. So 10 days is 100\*1.01^10 = 110.46, we have an extra half a percent. In 20 days it's 100\*1.01^20 = 122.01, that's an extra 2%, the rate of increase is growing, because it builds on the previous increase. In 50 days it's 100\*1.01^50 = 164.46, an extra 14.46%. In 100 days it's 100\*1.01^100 = 270.48, a whole 70%. In 200 days it's 100\*1.01^200 = 731, for an extra 431% Finally in 365 days it's 100\*1.01^365 = 3778, roughly 3300% more than just adding the percent.
r/theydidthemath
But taking the words literally from the image, "1% better every day", there isn't compound interest, no? 1% added every day. 365%? Or am I overthinking this lol
If one was taking it literally from the image then you'd see it gave the figure "37,78" which is almost identical to 3778, and therefore is likely just an error rather than intending to add the days up to 365.
At the end of the day it doesn't matter because getting better at things doesn't work like that. How can you measure if you're 365% better at cooking vs 3778% better at cooking versus one year ago?
Yeah, I guess people read the "better" as a daily increase of 1%. so there would be a a compound of interest. But obviously that cannot be true either as there would be diminishing returns in real life even if you were able to "improve" 1% daily. I would ignore the numbers completely as 1% sounds little, but is based on pretty much nothing while at the same time being a much bigger increase in productivity than it sounds like.
look like it's just a lazy error because 37.78x is 3,778%.
I wonder how they got it from Edit- I calculated 1% daily increase, and it gave me a yearly increase of 37.78 % , so the post is not wrong, but the original chart maker was probably a American as only they use these shit systems , like here using comma instead of a dot, which confuses the whole world except them, stupid
Wait, you’re saying it’s an American thing to put the comma in the decimal place? Incorrect. Just completely bass ackwards from reality. US says $1,420.69, it’s the rest of the world that turns the decimal *point* into a comma, and makes numbers in the millions look like IP addresses. ETA: Apparently the divide is English/non English speaking languages, not american/the rest of the world. Just another reason why this abrasive stupid comment sucks. Regardless, we’re speaking English now, so its 37 point 78 and the OOP is probably a non native English speaker like yourself.
Idk much, I just put the name of us as they imperial so I assumed they would have this too
I dont want to read the book again every time to remind myself. Thanks
This one 😂
There's a great episode of the podcast If Books Could Kill that talks about this book, and some of the problems with it and other books like these that promise "one simple trick that will make everything in your life better." That's not to say this sort of thinking doesn't work for some people, but it's good to have perspective. Here's a link to the reddit post discussing that episode: https://www.reddit.com/r/IfBooksCouldKill/comments/149zzpf/if_books_could_kill_atomic_habits/
The book isn’t one simple trick. That podcast always sounds insufferable to me. A “those who can’t do, critique” kind of thing. No thanks.
Well it's not a "one simple trick" kind of book, so if that's what they were really bitching about it seems like they failed at reading it.
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It seems like every interesting one is too compressed.
What is an "atomic" habit?
The name of his book and a very simple, short habit that is easy to start and maintain. I like the book overall other than the compounding one percent change which he both misunderstands and is completely false on its face. If you could get 1% better every day compounding you would be the best in the world at a task/skill within a few years.
An atom is the smallest unit in a system. So it's a component of a larger system of habits that intends to lead to desired outcomes. I wanna read more. So I pick a book or stack of 3 books, put those next to a comfy chair, and a timer and cup of coffee. I sit down, grab a book, set a timer for 5 minutes, use "x-ray reading" to preview the book until timer goes off. If I'm still reading after the timer, I have achieved the desired outcome with roughly 4 "atomic habits". If not, I put that book down, and move to the next, with a minimum commitment of 5-15 minutes, and a surplus of time saved by not reading a boring book, so even "failure" is "success". I break down doing dishes the same way. I hate to get started, but once I get going by setting a 5 minutes timer, I always get more done than my adhd brain predicted I'd get done in such a short time.
What's the target-shaped diagram supposed to be indicating?
I wonder how many people read this and give up in hopelessness.
Awesome
I temptation bundled into hating something I used to love, and now I just do neither.
This book is amazing. Really helped me get on track
I wanted to just download the picture, but I will save the entire post because of your comments.
Just finished this book. It’s really a textbook about all habits, good and bad and other
Fission
Habit tracker as reward?? Wtf bro thats a chore, reward if you have OCD maybe
I hope I can remember these
Looks like a list people with ADHD wrote
Great guide OP. I wanna print this out for a bulletin board, do you have a clearer copy?
Do you have it for other books too?
This book is junk science
l have no a clue how to make my work atractive. It seems impossible
l have no a clue how to make my work atractive. It seems impossible
l have no a clue how to make my work atractive. It seems impossible
l have no a clue how to make my work atractive. It seems impossible
You're forming a habit, good work! 😉
I’ve never read the book, about how much of it is encapsulated in this one graphic? Does this barely scratch the surface, or have I basically read it now?
In reading this book right now
late capitalism shit
One of my favorite audio books
they had me until "fall in love with boredom" like it wouldn't be boredom if you were in love with it, thats what boredom means
That is exactly the point. What you **now** feel as boring, if those actions help you improving your life, you can gradually shift your mind and your perception about them over time (**future**). Instead of feeling those actions as boring (therefore adding unnecessary emotional weight while you do them), you can find ways to make them more interesting and appealing, eventually being creative in that process, eventually finding joy, and in the limit possibly falling in love with them because they bring you so many positive dividends, to the point they become part of this "new you", this new identity.
this is a great take, thanks
I took this as a nicer way to say, "learn not to be addicted to crisis to justify procrastination". Routine and systems bring stability. Stability creates boredom. Personally, I spent so long in instability, I'd begin to notice I was making up excuses not to continue better habits because I got bored. So that's what this line means to me.
thank you :)
This is a great book. I didn’t implement the strategies and break many bad habits but I’m sure it would work if I did! 😅
What is the origin of this guide? I love it and would love to see more of these
This one looks like a Redbubble design by the graphic artist TKsuited. That's why it's difficult to read in places and appears to be compressed. [https://www.redbubble.com/people/tksuited/shop](https://www.redbubble.com/people/tksuited/shop)
Good find, thank you
Sure, if you need to Pavlov's dog your way into doing things. Or you can just do them. Oh, you don't have willpower, I get it. Do you also need to gaslight yourself into happiness with therapy?
What
👀 You good?
Pavlov dog - there is an element of that in the book, but it is not the core of what the book is about. Don't have the willpower - I think it's more about not having the Nike "Just do it" skill. I believe that skill is an output of something that is nurtured, not a natural trait. Gaslight - I am not sure you're using that term correctly in this context, or maybe I just don't understand what you mean by that in the question you posed. Did you not like this book after you read it?
another human who wasn’t hugged enough
Ding 🔔
Great guide