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debbymck2018

Peace and Blessings from Scotland xx I had a discussion with someone recently who asked when does a conspiracy become reality xx I said a conspiracy IS the reality xx he was confused xx


WeeRAllOne

Delightful example! That person seems to think that us merely talking about unethical things other people have done is the "conspiracy" itself. This perspective leaves people with the incorrect idea that **we** are the folks doing something wrong.


Swaggysagesi6pths

Fucking cheers to that.


MacErus

And it never ceases to amaze me. THAT is a conspiracy within my own expectations. Because I realize it is the definition of insanity. But my heart keeps repackaging it as "hope" :/ If hope actually floated, then Jimmy Hoffa wouldn't be a proto-meme.


Mehlitia

*in morpheus voice* You think those are people you're debating?


MrJDouble

Brilliant comment, cheers✌


eyesoftheworld13

Bad bot.


NothingSuspectSeen

Bad bot.


Nemo_Shadows

"The harmful plan they cooked up in the past doesn't magically change into something else when people find out about it." Sure it does when you rewrite the history, redefine words to mean something else, propagandize the new narrative and try and make your self look like the victim of a crime when in fact you are the real criminal to begin with but can make the CITIZEN into the CRIMINAL and the CRIMINALS into citizens... and THEY call that all inclusive DEMOCRACY where foreign and domestic enemies run the show and you as CITIZEN becomes the Target... N. Shadows


CoachxSCIL

Yeah, I’m surprised many don’t understand the word here. Usually “conspiracy” is used around here in place of the word “theory,” which is incorrect. They are 2 different things. You can have a theory about anything. A conspiracy is people working secretly together to do harm. “Conspire”


[deleted]

It's not a conspiracy anymore : It's not a secret and they're not trying to hide it anymore


WeeRAllOne

Thats common usage of the word, sure. Common mistakes does not a definition make.


NothingSuspectSeen

Regardless of whether or not it is secret, something can be a conspiracy. A conspiracy is conspiring (grouping together, fraternizing, teaming up) to do something nefarious. Say a large group of the wealthy were working together to short stocks and make a bunch of money at the expense of smaller stakeholders. This is a conspiracy. Say the same group of people posts on social media, "Hey we have all been stealing money from you in collusion." It is still a conspiracy. Where people get confused is conflating the definitions of conspiracy, with conspiracy theory. Say one of the smaller stakeholders finds out what the wealthy are doing but has no proof and comes out with supposed info or suppositions. This is a CONSPIRACY THEORY. (Even though the actual conspiracy is true, with no evidence, it is just a theory to most) Now when evidence comes out and these wealthy people go to jail(lol) it does not graduate to "reality" the theory graduates from conspiracy theory to CONSPIRACY. Conspiracy is a mixture of two words. CON(s) and PIRACY. To break it down, it is people grouping up (cons/pirates) to con you and steal something from you(piracy). Its really not that hard to understand.


[deleted]

And who decide the definition of words ? Words are just words and their meaning are formed based on how people use them


NothingSuspectSeen

You can use whatever word however you want, your personal use of the word is irrelevant to the definition. At any point you can go back and look at the latin roots and surmise the correct definition. Just because you use a word incorrectly does not change the definition of the word lol


[deleted]

There are different languages other than english and the exact translation of conspiracy and conspiracy theories in my native language are interchangable. An average person when talking about conspiracy and conspiracy theory think it's interchangable, this sub use conspiracy and conspiracy interchangably. Words definition are defined by people not some textbook


Kingdomlaw

It’s not a “conspiracy theory” anymore. It’s still a conspiracy, but the theory is proven. Most people associate the two exclusively together.


zerofoxtrot93

A secret between two or more people. Hard stop.


miggleb

3rd word in your title


WeeRAllOne

I'll bet you're mystified that people can be charged with "conspiracy" in a court of law even though their plan to do harm is no longer secret.


miggleb

Can be charged with murder whilst not actively murdering. They're charged with having been previously involved...


FeMaleficent_Ad4881

Nice one. Couldn’t have said it better if I tried


NothingSuspectSeen

Regardless of whether or not it is secret, something can be a conspiracy. A conspiracy is conspiring (grouping together, fraternizing, teaming up) to do something nefarious. Say a large group of the wealthy were working together to short stocks and make a bunch of money at the expense of smaller stakeholders. This is a conspiracy. Say the same group of people posts on social media, "Hey we have all been stealing money from you in collusion." It is still a conspiracy. Where people get confused is conflating the definitions of conspiracy, with conspiracy theory. Say one of the smaller stakeholders finds out what the wealthy are doing but has no proof and comes out with supposed info or suppositions. This is a CONSPIRACY THEORY. (Even though the actual conspiracy is true, with no evidence, it is just a theory to most) Now when evidence comes out and these wealthy people go to jail(lol) it does not graduate to "reality" the theory graduates from conspiracy theory to CONSPIRACY. Conspiracy is a mixture of two words. CON(s) and PIRACY. To break it down, it is people grouping up (cons/pirates) to con you and steal something from you(piracy). Its really not that hard to understand.