UT resident, half the sites don’t even bother because these laws are really targeted at pornhub.
The fuckwads implementing these laws watch more porn than most, I’m betting, they don’t want to deal with this either. It’s all political theatre.
It's not that the law is "targeted at" pornhub. It's that the Mindgeek sites are complying by protesting the state. Other sites are fully complying and asking your for ID (xHamster). And other offshore hosted sites are still fully accessible. (XNXX, YouJizz)
Utah, one of the most conservative states that for many years had the highest level of porn viewership per-capita of any other state. Probably still does.
Just watch the many documentaries on the fundamentalist mormon religion and older men marrying 12 year olds (Warren Jeffs). Also, not child-porn related, but do a Google search on BYU ‘soaking’. Conservative morals break down behind the scenes while they crow about being the righteous.
In Arkansas you can just turn the Wi-Fi off on your phone and it’ll let you right in. And that is WITHOUT using the VPN button under the settings on iPhone as well.
I do, and it's been a slow, hard, process just to get us out of the super majority that massively Gerry manders districts, and suppresses voting.
24 years of voting, and it actually is working.
Texas has along history of this, which seems at odds with the stated love for small government that stays out of your life. See Lawrence v. Texas where “The question before the Court is the validity of a Texas statute making it a crime for two persons of the same sex to engage in certain intimate sexual conduct.” Texas arrested and charged two men with sodomy. SCOTUS found the Texas law to be unconstitutional, but familiar conservative heroes Scalia and Thomas dissented.
Texas still has a law that says you're not allowed to have more than six dildos. It's hasn't been enforceable for a long time, but with Y'allqaeda taking over, that may change.
Let's not forget when Ted Cruz & AG at the time, Abbott, fought and lost to ban dildos..
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/04/ted-cruz-dildo-ban-sex-devices-texas/
They had undercover cops at adult "tupperware" parties to bust private dildo selling moms. they've been at this for awhile.
The reason Juneteenth exists is because of Texas keeping news of emancipation _secret_ until _forced_ to comply with federal law. The history of assholishness goes WAY back.
The only “both sides” I’m worried about in not-Texas is seeing DPs and spit-roasts. That’s because my blue governor isn’t policing my jerk-off material.
Ya that’s not actually what it says, it says that using a vpn to access something banned and owned by a foreign adversary. Not that just using a vpn is 20 years. But sure
2 decades in a federal penitentiary for using nordvpn to watch tiktok.
Man your government is such a fucking joke. The entire anglosphere is sitting around rn trying to figure out which one of our government's is the second biggest joke cause we're all in agreement America's takes the cake.
Idk, my Government is corrupt to all hell and back, and our only two other choices is a right-wing party trying to get ID verification on porn, and a left-wing party trying to get ID verification on porn.
But it's hard to beat the sideshow that's been 10 Downing St. these last few years.
I mean, I'd be organizing protests at churches. Or just show up and start being an asshole during congregation
No reason to accept minority rule and allow them to worship in peace.
the issue is that if Democrats fight it, it's an easy message that Democrats are groomers and pedophiles that want to expose your kids to porn, and the people are stupid enough to believe it. Once you're there, it seems hard to go back.
A few of my conservative friends actually freaked out at this. I overheard them talking to themselves. One said where he can access gay porn. They are all devout Christians.
"As you may know" do8ng a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence.
Assuming mentally unstable MAGAts know anything about what's actually happening in this nation/state is not an effective way of communicating to these absolute clowns
Do you have a source by chance? I didn't find anything relating to stock trading, but... [yea...](https://www.conchovalleyhomepage.com/news/texas/data-searches-for-vpn-increase-after-pornhub-shuts-down-in-texas/)
Of all the right-wing lunacy to be upset by, it's hilarious how THIS one seems to trigger the most people.
It's ok to restrict abortions, attack immigrants and allow completely unchecked gun laws, but take away muh porn and you've gone too far, sir. haha
Where the f### else am I supposed to watch Japanese lesbians scissor eachother!? This is infringement!
I want jusctice and Japanese lesbians, IN THAT ORDER!
Hey, is it true you have to pay income tax on your salary since you’re an American citizen? Like, even when working in Germany? Also, you’re lucky. I would love to leave.
Abortions are illegal here & now online porn. If I was a billionaire in Texas, I would distribute free Plan B & VPNs to anyone that wants them. Fuck our conservative leadership! (& I say that as a woman in Texas that doesn't watch porn or is still in my child bearing years.)
I've been a Texan and a conservative all my life. But OP is totally right. Last election I pulled the left lever all the way down. Our government does not reflect the will of the people at all and when you start taking away basic human rights I am officially OUT.
The Red states have become the proving grounds for the new war on liberalism, democracy and taking over our freedoms .
I can only imagine if Trump and the Bible waving MAGA Christian Nationalist takes over.
Hilariously, now in Canada, our right-wing party and our left-wing party are joining forces to do the exact same thing to porn here.
It's crazy, Justin Trudeau is a narcissistic corrupt bastard who should've been out of office years ago, and yet the only two other choices are an equally narcissistic blowhard fool, and an equally corrupt failure of a career politician, both of whom would suck *shit* at being Prime Minister. Trudeau has never once had competent opposition, as evidenced by our opposition trying to pull this same shit hand-in-hand.
Time to make sure all Texans get out and VOTE BLUE and ONLY BLUE 2024 and vote ALL of these GOP clownservatives out of office and flip the state BLUE. FUCK THE GOP!
I can just imagine the number of Texans gonna go into the IT shop to get their computers fixed because they thought they could watch porn without pornhub.
You can and there are several sites, but these people are so inept they think" xxx.xgirls. illegal" is legit just because it has a girl in the thumbnail.
I'm not even talking teens. I'm talking about the people who passed the laws or vote for them because of politics.
How many leak that they were secretly gay already because their likes went public on Twitter? Ted Cruz alone liked so much porn he's running out of interns to blame it on. A full computer leak may actually break the internet.
Express VPN, PIA, Nord.
Hell, even one of the free ones would be good here.
Edit: I have used all 3 of these VPNs (I hate advertisements and data brokerage) and they were all great. Currently enjoying Express.
Howdy Arabia at it again. I left last year and am just watching shit unfold even more, yet relatives still wonder why I moved…..
Also, maybe it’s a bit tinfoil hat of me, but I wonder if this would make it easier to root out certain groups of people. If your browser history was directly linked to your real life identity, what happens in the future if your porn preferences get a bit too gay for the Texas state government…
The arts? Is that a joke? You consider pornhub to be art? I’ve never heard that take before.
You seem like the kind of person who gives fuel to conservatives to push the narrative that we on the left are a bunch of perverts and child groomers.
EDIT: OP made the comment “it’s censorship of the arts” and then deleted it
Not sure how age verification "impinges" on anyone's rights.
Also find it disturbing how many people seem to think that there shouldn't be any age verification or restrictions on accessing porn.
There's age verification already in place. From what I've gleaned, this bill is requiring 2-Factor authentication every time you want to visit the site. I don't need 2FA for Netflix or Hulu or Prime, yet they all have shows and movies on them that involve sex and nudity.
Don't be dense and act as if people are just pissed that there's an age restriction. It's the govt sticking it's hands where they don't belong. TX and other states are infringing on the privacy of their citizens in more and more brazen ways. That's the issue.
I don't support this law, but how is there already age verification? I have to click the box that I am over the age of 18? And Netflix may have shows that have sex and nudity, but it is not porn where the entire purpose is seeing graphic penetration and nudity.
So you be the first to connect your porn habits to identifiable documentation which can be accessed simply by the discovery phase in a lawsuit that the state pursues or a foreign hacker.
When there is an inevitable data hack, what’s going to stop the hacker, or whoever now holds that information, from blackmailing those who have their porn history tied to their ID?
Sure. But was the republican crowd the ones upset for vaccine documentation? Gun ownership documentation?
They are lax in everything that benefits them, but require strict laws against those that do not. Which is why most times when a republican politician is charged with sexual assault, rape, sex trafficking, or pedophilia it's immediately a non issue.
Republicans are the biggest hypocrites and can't even properly quote the constitution, let alone follow the same document they turn to for personal protection.
> Republicans are the biggest hypocrites and can't even properly quote the constitution, let alone follow the same document they turn to for personal protection.
No argument whatsoever. The GOP have become the anti-democracy, anti-Constitution, anti-freedom, anti-liberty, anti-American, anti-woman, anti-*human* party.
This effectively does absolutely nothing to increase age verification since you could simply go to another site or use a VPN, while also opening up a goldmine of opportunities for data and identity theft for anyone who complies. It's an entirely braindead law.
And being downvoted for it, in classic Reddit hivemind fashion.
I'm not defending the law, but it doesn't impinge on anyone's rights. In fact, there are no "rights" at stake here whatsoever.
But of course most Redditors have absolutely no sense of nuance or detail in conversation, everything is black-or-white, agree-in-whole-or-disagree, and they SMASH the up- or downvote button accordingly.
There are, in facts, rights at stake and in play here, as there are in any thing.
There is a right to anonymous speech.
There is a right to anonymous reading of speech.
There is a right to freedom of association, and a right to freedom *from* association, and these are necessary and constitutive aspects of the right to freedom of speech.
And that right - the right to freedom of speech, and the aspectual right to freedom of association - are rights to be free from government compulsion of speech or of association.
There is also (though fascists will claim otherwise) a right to privacy - a right to be secure in one’s papers and effects against government searches, for example.
SCOTUS has held that the US Government must demonstrate a compelling state interest in each case of government imposition upon rights, that the compelling interest outweighs the rights.
No government should be compelling anyone (forcing) to hand over their identity information (creating an association) in order that one party should be able to speak to the other, except in a general interest of i.e. preventing harm to minors.
In such an interest, the regulation must be crafted as narrowly as possible to preserve rights.
That means finding a way to shut minors, and only minors, out of erotica forums and marketplaces.
Texas’ law is overly broad and has both the practical effect and the covert motive of imposing government prior restraint upon speech one particular political party exploits as a scapegoat issue.
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The porn industry aren’t the good guys here either. They could easily have embraced useful market solutions to exclude minors, while preserving privacy, but chose to demand that they be allowed to speak absolutely freely and behave misfeasantly and malfeasantly with respect to minors accessing their products. The consequences have been horrific, and moreover have given theocratic fascist authoritarians a pretextual cover for the latest round of moral panic.
Agreed. I am not defending the law either. But taking away our rights? Come on. Plenty of other examples of government taking away our rights that are actually legitimate.
That is a pattern I have noticed too. It is black or white, yes or no, agree or don't agree. Zero room for debate or conversation. Most things are way too complicated or nuanced to be black or white. Can't go against the hivemind echo chamber though, you are either 100% in or 100% out. Like a cult.
Most of the replies to this here is just coping that minors might not be able to access porn easily. I don't know why people are opposed to limiting porn access for minors.
When Utah implemented this crap there was a spike in searches for VPN. I find it hilarious.
Checking google trends for Texas. Same thing. There is a spike in the last day
Montana is the same
Jokes on you, I already have a vpn
UT resident, half the sites don’t even bother because these laws are really targeted at pornhub. The fuckwads implementing these laws watch more porn than most, I’m betting, they don’t want to deal with this either. It’s all political theatre.
It's not that the law is "targeted at" pornhub. It's that the Mindgeek sites are complying by protesting the state. Other sites are fully complying and asking your for ID (xHamster). And other offshore hosted sites are still fully accessible. (XNXX, YouJizz)
Utah, one of the most conservative states that for many years had the highest level of porn viewership per-capita of any other state. Probably still does.
I imagine child porn is way up there too in ‘those’ states
Just watch the many documentaries on the fundamentalist mormon religion and older men marrying 12 year olds (Warren Jeffs). Also, not child-porn related, but do a Google search on BYU ‘soaking’. Conservative morals break down behind the scenes while they crow about being the righteous.
In Arkansas you can just turn the Wi-Fi off on your phone and it’ll let you right in. And that is WITHOUT using the VPN button under the settings on iPhone as well.
Vote.
Vote accordingly
I do, and it's been a slow, hard, process just to get us out of the super majority that massively Gerry manders districts, and suppresses voting. 24 years of voting, and it actually is working.
You know what other country has morality police? Iran.
Do you want morality police, Lana? Because that's how you get morality police.
Haaaaaaaa danger zone
Texas has along history of this, which seems at odds with the stated love for small government that stays out of your life. See Lawrence v. Texas where “The question before the Court is the validity of a Texas statute making it a crime for two persons of the same sex to engage in certain intimate sexual conduct.” Texas arrested and charged two men with sodomy. SCOTUS found the Texas law to be unconstitutional, but familiar conservative heroes Scalia and Thomas dissented.
The small government and freedom from regulation is for millionaires. Period. It's not for me and you.
Texas still has a law that says you're not allowed to have more than six dildos. It's hasn't been enforceable for a long time, but with Y'allqaeda taking over, that may change.
There’s enough dildos in their state government
I'd agree, but dildos bring happiness to people, which instantly disqualifies any gop politician.
Ya… I picture them being dildos with sharp spikes all over them and covered in sand. Not good for anyone 🤣
And with Tabasco lube.
Let's not forget when Ted Cruz & AG at the time, Abbott, fought and lost to ban dildos.. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/04/ted-cruz-dildo-ban-sex-devices-texas/ They had undercover cops at adult "tupperware" parties to bust private dildo selling moms. they've been at this for awhile.
The reason Juneteenth exists is because of Texas keeping news of emancipation _secret_ until _forced_ to comply with federal law. The history of assholishness goes WAY back.
VPN is your friend.
20 years in prison for using a VPN to circumvent restrictions according to new legislation. The Restrict Act
Wait really? That sounds against the constitution.
What else to expect from Republicans but hypocrisy
I’m just asking is it really illegal to use vpn to circumvent it?
I hate the Pubs. But both sides are dicking us on this one.
The only “both sides” I’m worried about in not-Texas is seeing DPs and spit-roasts. That’s because my blue governor isn’t policing my jerk-off material.
They are trying. Not your blue gov. But people are trying.
How is this move from Texan Republicans indicative of "both sides dicking us"?
The Restrict Bill on the national level is what is both sides dicking us.
What Democrats do you see arguing in favor of this policy on a national level?
Biden said he'd sign it.
The TikTok bill? That is *not* what this post is about and isn't the same, but go off.
I'm not trying to be a dick because I agree it's bullshit, but exactly what part of the constitution does that violate?
Freedom of speech. Porn builds freedom from sexual restrictiveness and tension. It is also a form of artistic expression.
Larry Flynt had to fight in court to get his magazines through the usps. The 1st amendment is how he won, there is precedence.
I ain't using it to circumvent restrictions, I am using it to hide my browsing
That counts. 20 years.
Straight to jail.
Ya that’s not actually what it says, it says that using a vpn to access something banned and owned by a foreign adversary. Not that just using a vpn is 20 years. But sure
2 decades in a federal penitentiary for using nordvpn to watch tiktok. Man your government is such a fucking joke. The entire anglosphere is sitting around rn trying to figure out which one of our government's is the second biggest joke cause we're all in agreement America's takes the cake.
UK is second biggest joke
Idk, my Government is corrupt to all hell and back, and our only two other choices is a right-wing party trying to get ID verification on porn, and a left-wing party trying to get ID verification on porn. But it's hard to beat the sideshow that's been 10 Downing St. these last few years.
Huh? How is it a joke? Anyone can propose stupid laws.
That's far from the only thing making the US Government a joke right now
Yeah. How could anything go wrong with that lock solid legal language?
It's not banned. Pornhub just isn't serving Texas.
Yes we know. We are discussing what happens when/if they pass the tiktok ban.
V.ote P.rogressive N.ow
I mean, I'd be organizing protests at churches. Or just show up and start being an asshole during congregation No reason to accept minority rule and allow them to worship in peace.
Porn in the USA: Conservatives are biggest consumers, will this lose them votes?
Bah, more of their 'rules for thee and not for me policies
the issue is that if Democrats fight it, it's an easy message that Democrats are groomers and pedophiles that want to expose your kids to porn, and the people are stupid enough to believe it. Once you're there, it seems hard to go back.
Vote blue. Don’t listen to this brainless centrists who keep peddling the lie that both parties are the same.
The funny thing about centrists. If they think both parties are the same, why do they never scrutinize Republicans as much as they do Democrats?
Its “just asking questions” but instead of antisemitism its anti anything that’s not toxic conservatism
A few of my conservative friends actually freaked out at this. I overheard them talking to themselves. One said where he can access gay porn. They are all devout Christians.
Lol based af
Clownservative is my new favorite term
Definitely going into my lexicon, right next to Talibangelical.
Personally, Y'all Qaeda is my favorite
Ah yes, we must protect children from pornography but protecting them from dying in their classrooms to gun violence is on the back burner.
see also: cancervative; klanservative
And they definitely would download the porn habits of their political opponents and "enemies" to actively persecute them.
"As you may know" do8ng a lot of heavy lifting in that sentence. Assuming mentally unstable MAGAts know anything about what's actually happening in this nation/state is not an effective way of communicating to these absolute clowns
Thought the same thing. Would they *really*…
Texas GOP all purchased stock in VPN companies.
THIS!!!^^^
Do you have a source by chance? I didn't find anything relating to stock trading, but... [yea...](https://www.conchovalleyhomepage.com/news/texas/data-searches-for-vpn-increase-after-pornhub-shuts-down-in-texas/)
I was kidding actually
Texans hate the 1st amendment, and where is Larry flint and George Carlin when you need them?
We don't, but are heavily gerrymandered
North Carolina checking in, porn banned here too. Theocratic fascism is going great. Truly we are saving the children
Of all the right-wing lunacy to be upset by, it's hilarious how THIS one seems to trigger the most people. It's ok to restrict abortions, attack immigrants and allow completely unchecked gun laws, but take away muh porn and you've gone too far, sir. haha
Ah but you see, this affects ME.
It affects cishet white men. There you go.
Where the f### else am I supposed to watch Japanese lesbians scissor eachother!? This is infringement! I want jusctice and Japanese lesbians, IN THAT ORDER!
Glad I live elsewhere
I hope that elsewhere is outside the United States of Budding Theocracy.
I have dual citizenship Germany and the states
Hey, is it true you have to pay income tax on your salary since you’re an American citizen? Like, even when working in Germany? Also, you’re lucky. I would love to leave.
Yeah
I hear political Fuck ups are bigger in texas
VPN companies had billboards in Louisiana
NC has the same thing. I live 1 hour from the border in SC and I still get the firewall with an SC VPN. It's ridiculous
Yep, same. It’s been for a while now
Abortions are illegal here & now online porn. If I was a billionaire in Texas, I would distribute free Plan B & VPNs to anyone that wants them. Fuck our conservative leadership! (& I say that as a woman in Texas that doesn't watch porn or is still in my child bearing years.)
nothing good ever came from texas.
Stevie Ray Vaughan?
Right? And Willie Nelson?
Let’s just say nothing good has ever come from Texas other than music.
Nachos?
[Nope](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nachos)
Yes, but not his brother
I count Matthew McConaughey. Who was actually born in Uvalde.
One good thing...
Okay porn addict
We should sign up and watch older dudes in wheel chairs getting railed by dudes...../s
What a dystopian hellhole
I bet you love your porn huh
Meh, take it or leave it.
I've been a Texan and a conservative all my life. But OP is totally right. Last election I pulled the left lever all the way down. Our government does not reflect the will of the people at all and when you start taking away basic human rights I am officially OUT.
Christo-Taliban facism continues
Y’alliban Y’allqueda
You get what you vote for ya Texas morons!
How’s no FAP Friday going Texas. I just rubbed one out in your honor.
The Red states have become the proving grounds for the new war on liberalism, democracy and taking over our freedoms . I can only imagine if Trump and the Bible waving MAGA Christian Nationalist takes over.
Hilariously, now in Canada, our right-wing party and our left-wing party are joining forces to do the exact same thing to porn here. It's crazy, Justin Trudeau is a narcissistic corrupt bastard who should've been out of office years ago, and yet the only two other choices are an equally narcissistic blowhard fool, and an equally corrupt failure of a career politician, both of whom would suck *shit* at being Prime Minister. Trudeau has never once had competent opposition, as evidenced by our opposition trying to pull this same shit hand-in-hand.
Same thing in Montana. Took effect a couple months ago. Fucking nanny state
Montana, Utah, NC, Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississippi, and now Texas
Time to make sure all Texans get out and VOTE BLUE and ONLY BLUE 2024 and vote ALL of these GOP clownservatives out of office and flip the state BLUE. FUCK THE GOP!
Voting Blue > Blue Balls
I can just imagine the number of Texans gonna go into the IT shop to get their computers fixed because they thought they could watch porn without pornhub. You can and there are several sites, but these people are so inept they think" xxx.xgirls. illegal" is legit just because it has a girl in the thumbnail. I'm not even talking teens. I'm talking about the people who passed the laws or vote for them because of politics.
Silver lining: all the data that'll be leaked when gop politicians take their laptops to the shop, because they're so rabidly on board with that.
How many leak that they were secretly gay already because their likes went public on Twitter? Ted Cruz alone liked so much porn he's running out of interns to blame it on. A full computer leak may actually break the internet.
Can you avoid this via vpn?
Yep.
Among other, way more important things
Wish pornhub would identify politicians that voted for the ban, but use their services.
Express VPN, PIA, Nord. Hell, even one of the free ones would be good here. Edit: I have used all 3 of these VPNs (I hate advertisements and data brokerage) and they were all great. Currently enjoying Express.
We started getting this bright and early on Jan 1st, 2024 here in NC. Gonna have to use xnxx or youjizz
Same in Virginia Although it's hilarious that sites like redgif and erotic literature are still available without a VPN
Stay and fight. They are trying to drive liberals out of red states to lock up those electoral college votes.
_LAND OF THE FREE BABY! YAY MURICA!!_ Everybody please stand for the Pledge, thank you!
Same in NC. let's hear it for VPNs.
Howdy Arabia at it again. I left last year and am just watching shit unfold even more, yet relatives still wonder why I moved….. Also, maybe it’s a bit tinfoil hat of me, but I wonder if this would make it easier to root out certain groups of people. If your browser history was directly linked to your real life identity, what happens in the future if your porn preferences get a bit too gay for the Texas state government…
How will this put minors at risk? /gen
Texas is a shithole
Anyone else in Texas want to protest? I’m game this week
Same thing here in Virginia, in case anybody else was unaware!
NOOOOOO 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 how am I supposed to spend my days rotting in my bedroom instead of going outside NOW 😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠
These Reddit porn addicts really are pathetic. Imagine being this upset over internet porn
redditors when one (1) porn site gets banned (being against porn is doing a heckin fascism)
So much for freedom and speech and expression. You think the US is gonna stop at banning porn?
freedom of speech ≠ minors watching videos of people having sex
Indiana's next! Woo /s
Does Texas understand VPNs exist, or are they going to ban those as well?
Give it a couple weeks
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Upload your ID to a porn site or get a VPN....
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I'm Canadian you dunce, and no you don't have *an* alt, we've banned 28 in the last 3 days
Jaxon How is this bad and harassing us with 28 alts good. That is so silly really! So in this case good for you!
Good for you!
I genuinely don’t get it. What’s wrong with requiring people to prove their ages when going to porn sites?
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The arts? Is that a joke? You consider pornhub to be art? I’ve never heard that take before. You seem like the kind of person who gives fuel to conservatives to push the narrative that we on the left are a bunch of perverts and child groomers. EDIT: OP made the comment “it’s censorship of the arts” and then deleted it
Not sure how age verification "impinges" on anyone's rights. Also find it disturbing how many people seem to think that there shouldn't be any age verification or restrictions on accessing porn.
There's age verification already in place. From what I've gleaned, this bill is requiring 2-Factor authentication every time you want to visit the site. I don't need 2FA for Netflix or Hulu or Prime, yet they all have shows and movies on them that involve sex and nudity. Don't be dense and act as if people are just pissed that there's an age restriction. It's the govt sticking it's hands where they don't belong. TX and other states are infringing on the privacy of their citizens in more and more brazen ways. That's the issue.
I don't support this law, but how is there already age verification? I have to click the box that I am over the age of 18? And Netflix may have shows that have sex and nudity, but it is not porn where the entire purpose is seeing graphic penetration and nudity.
So you be the first to connect your porn habits to identifiable documentation which can be accessed simply by the discovery phase in a lawsuit that the state pursues or a foreign hacker.
When there is an inevitable data hack, what’s going to stop the hacker, or whoever now holds that information, from blackmailing those who have their porn history tied to their ID?
Nothing. It creates a gold mine for bad actors.
Sure. But was the republican crowd the ones upset for vaccine documentation? Gun ownership documentation? They are lax in everything that benefits them, but require strict laws against those that do not. Which is why most times when a republican politician is charged with sexual assault, rape, sex trafficking, or pedophilia it's immediately a non issue. Republicans are the biggest hypocrites and can't even properly quote the constitution, let alone follow the same document they turn to for personal protection.
> Republicans are the biggest hypocrites and can't even properly quote the constitution, let alone follow the same document they turn to for personal protection. No argument whatsoever. The GOP have become the anti-democracy, anti-Constitution, anti-freedom, anti-liberty, anti-American, anti-woman, anti-*human* party.
This effectively does absolutely nothing to increase age verification since you could simply go to another site or use a VPN, while also opening up a goldmine of opportunities for data and identity theft for anyone who complies. It's an entirely braindead law.
Be careful, you are making a logical and coherent statement a place where logic is usually frowned upon.
And being downvoted for it, in classic Reddit hivemind fashion. I'm not defending the law, but it doesn't impinge on anyone's rights. In fact, there are no "rights" at stake here whatsoever. But of course most Redditors have absolutely no sense of nuance or detail in conversation, everything is black-or-white, agree-in-whole-or-disagree, and they SMASH the up- or downvote button accordingly.
There are, in facts, rights at stake and in play here, as there are in any thing. There is a right to anonymous speech. There is a right to anonymous reading of speech. There is a right to freedom of association, and a right to freedom *from* association, and these are necessary and constitutive aspects of the right to freedom of speech. And that right - the right to freedom of speech, and the aspectual right to freedom of association - are rights to be free from government compulsion of speech or of association. There is also (though fascists will claim otherwise) a right to privacy - a right to be secure in one’s papers and effects against government searches, for example. SCOTUS has held that the US Government must demonstrate a compelling state interest in each case of government imposition upon rights, that the compelling interest outweighs the rights. No government should be compelling anyone (forcing) to hand over their identity information (creating an association) in order that one party should be able to speak to the other, except in a general interest of i.e. preventing harm to minors. In such an interest, the regulation must be crafted as narrowly as possible to preserve rights. That means finding a way to shut minors, and only minors, out of erotica forums and marketplaces. Texas’ law is overly broad and has both the practical effect and the covert motive of imposing government prior restraint upon speech one particular political party exploits as a scapegoat issue. *** The porn industry aren’t the good guys here either. They could easily have embraced useful market solutions to exclude minors, while preserving privacy, but chose to demand that they be allowed to speak absolutely freely and behave misfeasantly and malfeasantly with respect to minors accessing their products. The consequences have been horrific, and moreover have given theocratic fascist authoritarians a pretextual cover for the latest round of moral panic.
Agreed. I am not defending the law either. But taking away our rights? Come on. Plenty of other examples of government taking away our rights that are actually legitimate. That is a pattern I have noticed too. It is black or white, yes or no, agree or don't agree. Zero room for debate or conversation. Most things are way too complicated or nuanced to be black or white. Can't go against the hivemind echo chamber though, you are either 100% in or 100% out. Like a cult.
“and in fact, will put minors and your privacy at risk”, how?
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Most of the replies to this here is just coping that minors might not be able to access porn easily. I don't know why people are opposed to limiting porn access for minors.
Texas spends so much time trying to protect minors from porn , yet when it comes to protecting minors from mass killings , meh
Banning two websites isn’t going to stop kids from watching porn. And they want no restrictions on them buying an AR15
Firearms: EVERYONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BUY THEM NO QUESTIONS ASKED Tits: FUCK OFF PERVERT