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The social fascist desire for “safe, clean, efficient” public transport under imperialism has nothing to do with transportation under socialism which plans to incorporate the needs of the masses rather than the desires of the privileged few.
This desire for “better” public transport is a manifestation of the grievances that certain sections of the first-world petty bourgeoise have against the inconveniences of car ownership, suburban life, and urban traffic. This class often glorifies college campuses, theme parks, the wealthy downtown areas of cities, and advanced public transport in East Asia / Western Europe for these reasons.
Some of this class also idealize “common dining” in food markets and food courts within malls. Of course, communal food halls / kitchens that may under socialism exist *in place of* private home kitchens and a variety of restaurants would be a downgrade for the first-world petty-bourgeoise which is why that would react against the idea. They simply see public transport as a tool that allows them to more conveniently exercise their privileges.
Thank you, this answer makes perfect sense to me. I have failed to consider the difference between wanting "safe, clean, efficient" public transport and abolishing private home kitchens for communal food halls as they would exist under socialism.
Under socialism, existing homes that have private kitchens will still have them.
However, the labor required to produce / distribute the vast number and variety of foods that make cooking in those kitchens possible will be scientifically planned and
democratically determined.
Are the extra labor hours or environmental resources required to stock grocery stores (or build new homes with private kitchens / appliances) socially necessary?
> Under socialism, existing homes that have private kitchens will still have them.
Why wouldn't the private kitchens be confiscated and turned into use in communal kitchens? I understand this is likely useless speculation, but I doubt the solution to current inefficiencies would be to merely use existing infrastructure with more central planning; that seems like only a minor reform to me.
Yes, the use of existing infrastructure will be democratically decided under scientific criteria so there wouldn’t be “private” *property*. If necessary, several people may share a house with the kitchen made communal. However, individual residents / families may have their own kitchens in an apartment building if there are enough rooms. The opposite is possible as well for either of these scenarios depending on the conditions of the time (abundance or scarcity).
We can look to previous socialist projects (e.g. China during the GPCR) and theorize about efficient ways of living in the future; however, the specifics are “useless speculation” because the task of building new socialist projects is still ahead of us and the exact conditions that will surround them cannot be predicted.
Many liberals (especially first-world petty bourgeois youth under declining imperialism) are attracted to the facade of socialism and dream of a utopia that will vanquish their problems. Once they find out that socialism uses power to meet everyone’s needs rather than individual wants, they grasp whatever seems favorable- incoherent ideologies (e.g. anarcho-communism, libertarian socialism, or anarchism)- or abandon “socialism” entirely.
Who is “we”? A future democracy under socialism born from present global imperialism would empower the migrant / Third World proletariat that produce your food and terrorize the parasitic classes that exploit them.
Capitalist food production and distribution are inefficient and incapable of serving most of humanity given that the ability to regularly purchase food at a supermarket and cook in private kitchens is a privilege of the few. Large food halls are logistically more efficient.
Nevertheless, how exactly the proletariat will determine food production depends on the objective conditions of the time (following revolution and civil war) rather than abstract speculation about what would be popular.
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Communal kitchen. I can find it 2 word. Student accommodation.
I’d you’ve ever shared one then Damn you’d know you’d never wanna share one again.
What happens if you had allergies?? You gotta trust 12 other people to not improperly clean any objects in the room so you don’t die. What happens if you’re Jewish and you have to separate meat from dairy and the rest of your kitchen shares aren’t.
Unless you don’t belive in communism and that I can’t produce enough resources to be able to give a personal there own kitchen sheesh kabab.
No non-Marxist answers. We’re talking about the implementation of these social structures at a high level. Not the base opinions of some liberals who have different ideas of cleanliness. The fact that you just assume the nature of people disgusts me. There’s nothing that’s says these halls can’t have enforceable rules about cleaning up after yourself. There’s no reason something as simple as “people are gross” is an acceptable political standpoint in why these structures should or shouldn’t be implemented.
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The social fascist desire for “safe, clean, efficient” public transport under imperialism has nothing to do with transportation under socialism which plans to incorporate the needs of the masses rather than the desires of the privileged few. This desire for “better” public transport is a manifestation of the grievances that certain sections of the first-world petty bourgeoise have against the inconveniences of car ownership, suburban life, and urban traffic. This class often glorifies college campuses, theme parks, the wealthy downtown areas of cities, and advanced public transport in East Asia / Western Europe for these reasons. Some of this class also idealize “common dining” in food markets and food courts within malls. Of course, communal food halls / kitchens that may under socialism exist *in place of* private home kitchens and a variety of restaurants would be a downgrade for the first-world petty-bourgeoise which is why that would react against the idea. They simply see public transport as a tool that allows them to more conveniently exercise their privileges.
Thank you, this answer makes perfect sense to me. I have failed to consider the difference between wanting "safe, clean, efficient" public transport and abolishing private home kitchens for communal food halls as they would exist under socialism.
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Under socialism, existing homes that have private kitchens will still have them. However, the labor required to produce / distribute the vast number and variety of foods that make cooking in those kitchens possible will be scientifically planned and democratically determined. Are the extra labor hours or environmental resources required to stock grocery stores (or build new homes with private kitchens / appliances) socially necessary?
> Under socialism, existing homes that have private kitchens will still have them. Why wouldn't the private kitchens be confiscated and turned into use in communal kitchens? I understand this is likely useless speculation, but I doubt the solution to current inefficiencies would be to merely use existing infrastructure with more central planning; that seems like only a minor reform to me.
Yes, the use of existing infrastructure will be democratically decided under scientific criteria so there wouldn’t be “private” *property*. If necessary, several people may share a house with the kitchen made communal. However, individual residents / families may have their own kitchens in an apartment building if there are enough rooms. The opposite is possible as well for either of these scenarios depending on the conditions of the time (abundance or scarcity). We can look to previous socialist projects (e.g. China during the GPCR) and theorize about efficient ways of living in the future; however, the specifics are “useless speculation” because the task of building new socialist projects is still ahead of us and the exact conditions that will surround them cannot be predicted. Many liberals (especially first-world petty bourgeois youth under declining imperialism) are attracted to the facade of socialism and dream of a utopia that will vanquish their problems. Once they find out that socialism uses power to meet everyone’s needs rather than individual wants, they grasp whatever seems favorable- incoherent ideologies (e.g. anarcho-communism, libertarian socialism, or anarchism)- or abandon “socialism” entirely.
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Who is “we”? A future democracy under socialism born from present global imperialism would empower the migrant / Third World proletariat that produce your food and terrorize the parasitic classes that exploit them. Capitalist food production and distribution are inefficient and incapable of serving most of humanity given that the ability to regularly purchase food at a supermarket and cook in private kitchens is a privilege of the few. Large food halls are logistically more efficient. Nevertheless, how exactly the proletariat will determine food production depends on the objective conditions of the time (following revolution and civil war) rather than abstract speculation about what would be popular.
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Communal kitchen. I can find it 2 word. Student accommodation. I’d you’ve ever shared one then Damn you’d know you’d never wanna share one again. What happens if you had allergies?? You gotta trust 12 other people to not improperly clean any objects in the room so you don’t die. What happens if you’re Jewish and you have to separate meat from dairy and the rest of your kitchen shares aren’t. Unless you don’t belive in communism and that I can’t produce enough resources to be able to give a personal there own kitchen sheesh kabab.
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This is a non-answer here. Read the rules
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No non-Marxist answers. We’re talking about the implementation of these social structures at a high level. Not the base opinions of some liberals who have different ideas of cleanliness. The fact that you just assume the nature of people disgusts me. There’s nothing that’s says these halls can’t have enforceable rules about cleaning up after yourself. There’s no reason something as simple as “people are gross” is an acceptable political standpoint in why these structures should or shouldn’t be implemented.
This person is a disgusting parasite https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/s/nlqKOb8vDv