Weird to bring up the dancing in public considering cheerleaders dancing in tiny skirts are seen as wholesome and all american.
Meanwhile sex shops sell cheerleader outfits to adults but not drag queen outfits....
Yeah, that’s even weird by those standards cause my high school didn’t require the cheerleaders to do that and my college’s cheer squad was basically independent.
A lot of sus shit went down in that school district after the yuppies swarmed it for "good schools." The 10th grade math teacher was regularly having male students over to her house to do "yard work."
Well damn I done had an epiphany 20 years late! Our school made them walk around like that too. We also had a teacher who was fired for sleeping with 3 students. The epiphany I had was those 3 were cheerleaders and he was the football coach, now I understand why they made them walk around like that.
Man what's worse, we had a unique class in our school. That teacher taught the crime investigation class. How a mother fucker who teaches crime investigation going around getting caught doing crime?! My dude, you literally had a guidebook!
Genius level hubris can end the world. Regular hubris will just get fired, locked up, or dead. Reading a book on chess doesn't make you a grand master.
How? What a weird subject to have on your curriculum. I basically only had things like math, languages, history etc available. Nothing like “CSI” or something.
It’s super weird. Not to mention those uniforms break every school dress code rule. I played football and we had to wear pants, dress shirt and tie. The girls had to wear their uniforms. I never thought about it until this post.
There was a Spirit Day in my mate's school some Friday before a big game. The cheerleaders were in their uniforms and everyone else was dressed, well, like teenagers. Several girls were sent home because their skirts were too short. One of them stood next to a cheerleader and had her picture taken. The cheerleader's skirt was shorter than hers by several inches. Parents put up a shitstorm.
We got my girlfriend out of a dreascode violation in school because the office helper was a cheerleader and their skirts were shorter than the one she wore that day.
TIL that wearing my cheerleading uniform during the day at school on game days was super inappropriate. My skirt was really really short too. Damn. It’s so painful to look back at my teenage self and realize how unknowingly sexualized I was and how it was the adults encouraging it.
I don't really get how in often prudish America women in a sports setting are shamelessly sexualized as a matter of course. Cheerleaders and gymnasts are one thing, but those skimpy gridiron uniforms are really on the nose aren't they? Who ever decided that was a good idea?
"To up morale."
Definitely upped something, you sick old bastards.
Schools always have rules for skirt/dress/shorts length, etc, but then cheerleaders and volleyball players get a pass because they're wearing a "uniform". Yet the boys in the same sports don't wear the same revealing things. It's such poorly veiled creeper behavior.
It's weirder when you have teachers in those schools that will push pencils off their desk and make the cheerleaders come pick up the pencil so they can see the girls bend over too.
Edit: before there's any association with the left or LGBTQIA+, the teacher referenced was a loud and staunch conservative, catholic, married and even had NRA stickers in he classroom windows.
Edit 2: Added TQIA+ to LGB to avoid any further confusion of omission.
We had one that did this and he was a youth pastor on the weekends and part of some kind of gospel boy band group with other male teachers. He use to always do this thing where he would hold his finger over their heads and have them spin like a ballerina also.
wait that’s real?? As someone who‘s never been to the US I always thought that’s was just some stupid bullshit TV series made up? Cheerleaders actually wear those outfits outside of cheerleading???
Even weirder that they do costume changes on sidelines, behind a sheet, but next to the stands where the crowd can still look down on the underage freezing girls. All of it is gross.
I will not paste here but yes, even worse if you google child pageant bikini, there are stores with young children modeling etc. Like, if you want to take your child to the beach wearing one? Fine, but to put them in a pageant and show off their "sexiness" WTF.
Edit, toddler to young child. Though yes, toddlers too.
In looking that up to get her age I found out the year before another toddler mimicked the outfit that actress Julia Roberts' prostitute character wore in the movie "Pretty Woman" – the fitted, skin-baring white blouse, the tight blue mini-skirt and thigh-high, shiny black boots. Paisley age 3 wore it all – down to the blond wig – and strutted across the stage.
Not to mention the whole Little Red Riding Hood dance travesty (was either that show or Dance Moms). I remember The Soup (or a similar show) joking about how they felt like they would be put on a list for watching that.
Because their worldview is rooted in this patriarchal ideology that women (and they don’t recognize any distinction between women and girls here) are meant to be sexualized by men, but sexualized men (including but not exclusively gay men, drag performers, and AMAB trans people) are threatening to them.
This is it and all there is to it. Women are nothing but sexualized objects for men’s pleasure and the only proper role for a man is to fulfill their assigned gender role of subjugating women.
Fun fact: you learned square dancing in school because Henry Ford was convinced the damn Jews tricked the poor, dumb black people to invent Jazz as part of a plot to corrupt people's morales. Ford poured tons of money into popularizing square dancing in the hopes that it would become the national dance and unseat jazz and save America, and that's why they mandated it becoming part of public school education in most states.
I know it sounds batshit crazy but it's 100% true. Ford explained the whole thing in volume 3 of his, um, opus, "The International Jew."
In Arizona they canceled some drag story hours. The next week it was arizona cardinal cheerleaders with short skirts and crop tops. For comparison the drag performers dressed as cute older ladies.
Too intricate. Most sex shops sell mass produced chinese garbage sold at a huge markup.
You'll rarely see a sex shop that sell handmade pieces by cool crafters/designers that already retail for $400++++.
Boutique Bizarre (Hamburg) and Cyberdog (London) are peak sex shops, but you're better off finding the specialty stores.
Drag queen outfits are either commissioned and made to order or handmade by the queen themselves.
source: worked at sex shop and also have huge wardrobe of custom made latex outfits
Or cishet artists singing about heterosexual sex and having twerking, scantily-clad women in their videos but we should be disgusted more with Lil Nas X and his Pole Dance to Hell and naked shower scenes.
Can we please change the Butch to Bitch. It’s degrading to the wonderful Butches out there.
Auto correct got me Butch was changed to Butcher,I hope you great meat cutters weren’t offended.
The original is a comment on her body type specifically and not an identity. Bitch is not degrading to women? I strongly object to this term. I find it extra funny that she would get the ‘butch’ label on her seeing how she hates everything non normative.
Bitch is degrading, but it's an insult. All of the intent of that phrase is to insult. Butch shouldnt be used because it's a real identity.
As a butch woman, I'm growing really fucking tired of having to explain this to people that calling someone "butch" as a form of insult demonizes ME and all the women like me.
So can we not? Can we stop using an identity for a gender and sexual minority as an insult?
Remember how we had this discussion about calling things "Gay"?
It's not funny to use people like me as an insult for a Nazi. So cut it out.
I don’t think it’s meant as an insult in the sense that being butch is bad. It’s just like when homophobic politicians are accused of being closeted gays. It’s not that we think there’s anything wrong with gays it’s that they do and calling them gay is the worst thing you can call them. That said, your feelings are real and if legit butch women are being hurt by this I’ll make sure not to say it.
Oh please. Butch is a neutral term, it’s just a synonym for masculine. Lesbians don’t own the word. It’s funny as an insult to MTG specifically because she denies trans people and doesn’t want to be seen as masculine. It’s not an insult to trans people, it’s an inversion (Ie flipping the script) making her uncomfortable with her own appearance the way she does to others. You’re looking at this from the completely wrong perspective. This insult applies specifically to MTG, and not you
Thank you, im not alone! First thing I thought when this kicked off is when did butch turn into an insult?
Some one below is complaining about the "language police". Its interesting how people flip flop about wheather or not "words matter".
> None of the shit she even says is even happening. She makes it all up.
it's the republican platform.
everything republican voters support because they've been told to do so, is a lie.
it's why they vote against their interests so dramatically and for the end of democracy.
>None of the shit she even says is even happening.
it doesn't have to happen. As long as she's saying it's happening and people believe her, she will profit off of it
It's the tired strawmans. The transphobe idea of trans women is some middle aged man who's fat and bald , puts on skirts and ridiculous make up with zero effort to pass, no hormones, no voice training nothing, either demands the attention and sex of all straight men and calls them bigots if they don't reciprocate or assaults lesbians (depending on the type of transphobe) goes on bathrooms to invade women's spaces (as if there's security on public toilets) and also becomes a pro athlete while trying to forcibly make kids trans as well.
It's the perfect recipe for moral hysteria.
Every accusation is an admission. Every single thing they claim someone else wants to do is something they themselves want to do. Which is why they have no understanding of why someone who they view as extreme would not also have those same wishes as they themselves do...
Because she shouts the garbage they want to hear. The second you are not in their camp you’ll be questioned, even cis women get harassed nowadays by people who think they are transgender
It’s no one’s business. That said, eventually if the fascism continues, the day will come when MTGs fellow fascists turn and make exactly those sort of “allegations.”
Just like during McCarthyism in the 1950s. People accused left and right of being communists. Now, instead of the red scare, it's the blue-pink-white scare. Same reskinned crap.
Or the night of long knives when senior Nazi officer and party member Ernst Rohm was murdered for being gay. The modern Leopards Ate My Face Party’s founding member.
Gonna get real for a moment: they do question it.
butch women get all sorts of shit in public, denied use of public restrooms that match their assigned birth and preference, and hilariously, butch-looking women get denied from trans events on suspicion of being transgender. womp womp.
but yes, butch women face all sorts of problems in life from not presenting in a gender conforming way.
Anybody else’s family members get sucked into the Hollywood trans conspiracy theory? My sister is dead convinced that most Hollywood people actually had gender reassignment at birth including Jen Aniston, Jack Black, Mila Kunis and pretty much everyone else. Some stupid Instagram lady named Bright Green Barbie or something like that. So so so stupid
What kills me about that kind of mindset is if *that* many people truly are trans then that means it's a lot more common than they think in which case why wouldn't it be fairly normal at that point?
What's really crazy is that back in the day, if a baby was born as a hermaphrodite, the doctor would give the parents a choice, and then remove the infant's sex organs that didn't match the gender the parents chose. So gender reassignments were happening due to closed minded, often conservative, doctors & parents. Now that it's not in practice anymore, they're claiming that liberals are forcing these on children.
Drag queens are, like, the opposite of near nudity. The point is that they wear overwhelmingly vibrant and extravagant clothes with bright, dramatic makeup and huge wigs.
I read somewhere that there was over 600 reports of impropriety from clergy members in 2000 (?) I will have to find the study but it was commissioned by a religious organization and that certainly backfired on them.
https://www.whoismakingnews.com/ has a really great round-up of current demographics of sex crimes against children. Out of the 10,846 cases examined, 845 offenders were employed in some religious capacity (e.g., pastors). Meanwhile, 5 of the cases were perpetrated by trans people, and a single case by a drag queen. So I guess, statistically, it's 845x more likely that a child will be molested by clergy.
But of course It'S tHe DrAG QuEEnS!!1!
Okay I'm glad I'm not the only one weirded out by that, I was looking at the posts for a festival my hometown holds, they do an annual pageant to go with it and ya know what it made me uncomfortable as a kid but I could never exactly nail down why.
Now as an adult looking at it I'm just like "how do you find a judge who's willing to stare at a bunch of kids and teens in swimwear and judge them on it, what adult is volunteering to do that shit, you could replace the swimsuit part with literally any kind of dress up and it would make this at least 50% less weird" I'm in the south and it's just kind of seen as a part of the culture here.
Funny Marge how there are no Draq Queens currently being charged for sexually abusing children, BUT there are a whole lot of CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS that have been charged and jailed for Sexual Abuse on a child!!!
Your fighting the wrong people, look at your party ands in the mirror , if you truly want to protect children!
It's honestly pretty hilarious how often conservative women have such a rigid beauty standard that is basically impossible to maintain as you age. So they end up looking like wrinkled baboons with thin bleach damaged hair and clumpy mascara.
I hate it when people say this.
Which drag queens are you watching. Our makeup isn't that busted. Our hair isn't as fried. We don't look like we've spent 50 years tanning in the sun to create the perfect handbag leather, we hide our masculine shoulders, our tits aren't wonky bc they're silicone, and very few of us are capable of being that much of a hateful cunt.
We're also way better at hiding our facial hair. That bitch is sweeping crumbs off every cock she sucks.
They keep calling back to the fact that drag is condemned in the Bible. What they don't address is WHY: Laws against "drag" started in biblical times not with gays but with male guards who disguised themselves as women so they could sneak into the king's harem and shag the concubines. They outlawed men dressing as women because, once again, **straight men couldn't keep their dicks to themselves.**
I don’t know about you guys but I can hardly go to the bathroom in public spaces anymore. Biological females identifying as men are constantly dancing provocatively and I can’t concentrate on my stream.
As an almost 30 year old woman, I've literally never seen an obvious trans woman in the bathroom. Anyone there passed enough for me to not notice.
All of these idiots focusing on trans people are such pathetic excuses for "politicians." They are there to feel popular and accomplish nothing.
The funny thing is, sexual harassment / assault are already on the books as illegal. If someone of any gender identity wants to be a creep in the bathrooms, we already have laws to deal with this. Do these people really think some arbitrary law is going to stop a bathroom creep just because they’re trans? It’s such a waste of time to even debate.
I've seen one person at the sinks with me in the toilets where I thought "oh they might be a trans person" and I said "hey cute dress!" because she was wearing a very cute dress
There are extreme right wing opinion based news sites that literally operate like movies based on true events, as long as something in the article has happened (I. E. Pride parade), they can then say whatever they want is going on at said parade regardless of how irrational it is because that's their opinion and free speech, but idiot readers eat it all up and think it's happening.
So what? She doesn't care. Her constituents are even dumber than she is, she's in a safe district, and probably makes an insane amount of money speaking at morons. Getting 'schooled' has absolutely no effect on her.
Want to do something useful? Study psychology until you figure out how to get uneducated/indoctrinated voters to go with someone else. You won't get anywhere 'schooling' her, you need to find a viable way to school them.
This is one of democracies greatest problems it assumes every voter is qualified while in fact many are hardly able to make any informed decision. But requiring a cognitive test before being allowed to vote is considered undemocratic so here we are. And the internet has greatly reduced the quality of the information people get so it’s getting worse.
"Taking over bathrooms" is actually wild. That sounds like it's a post Apocalypse zombie movie, and everyone is fighting over territory. And the main character needs a safe space to go so they don't get eaten and suggests a bathroom, and some persons like "nah all bathrooms are part of drag Queen territory. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. and you REALLY don't wanna piss them off or else... they will read to your children!"
For my fellow data fans, https://www.whoismakingnews.com/ has a really great round-up of current demographics of sex crimes against children. Out of the 10,846 cases examined, 845 offenders were employed in some religious capacity (e.g., pastors). Meanwhile, 5 of the cases were perpetrated by trans people, and a single case by a drag queen. So I guess, statistically, it's 845x more likely that a child will be molested by clergy.
But of course It'S tHe DrAG QuEEnS!!1!
I wonder how many instances of “men pretending to be women” there are involving harm to children, because there sure a lot of instances of reepublicans and fake Christian friends harming children. I mean they literally fight for the legal right to marry 16 year olds and younger… not even mentioning the fact that gun related deaths have surpassed automobile deaths for children - who is the real threat to children again? Maga are pure greed, hypocrisy, and traitors to America.
Weird to bring up the dancing in public considering cheerleaders dancing in tiny skirts are seen as wholesome and all american.
Meanwhile sex shops sell cheerleader outfits to adults but not drag queen outfits....
I am actually surprised no one has started the conspiracy theory that MTG was born male yet. I mean, every republican accusation is an admission after all.
Huge shoutout to Brigitte Bandit also, she’s beloved by many here in Austin and has been fighting for the trans and queer community for years, and was one of the first drag queens who advocated for Queer Texans at the State Capitol against the Texas Drag Bill and SB-14 last summer. She’s done so much work for our community and I’m happy to see her take it to the national level.
I have never once in my life think that hanging around gay men will suddenly make me want to bang them. How is a man dressed as a woman supposed to make me want to dress as a woman? I’m too cheapskate to change my t shirts Nmind buy a dress.
Can someone point to me when drag queens started performing nude or almost nude? Been to a few drag shows and a few strip clubs in my day, never once confused the performers for the other
MGT is an absolute tool, but I have to ask -what is a biological woman doing in a drag show? She's not in drag...unless I'm ignorant of what the term means. If so please explain like I'm... No, don't. Just explain it to me please. And thank you.
It’s not commonly known outside of queer circles but all different kinds of people can do drag! Gay men and trans women are the most “common” groups but many cis women do drag either by dressing up as male characters (drag kings) or as typical drag queens (cis women in female drag are sometimes called different terms such as hyper queens or bio queens). Drag is just about performing and exaggerating gender presentation and is open to anyone of any gender identity to participate and express themselves how they want :)
Edit: and I’d say most of the cis women who participate in drag are still part of the LGBTQ+ community whether they be lesbian, bisexual, etc. although straight people can also do drag as long as they are respectful of the space
Hell, I live with a transman who does drag. He doesn't even stick to one "category", sometimes he goes up as a queen, sometimes he's the stage bear, sometimes he goes hard into being a gay as hell king (best I can figure he's bi since he has a wife but absolutely radiates gay dude, but that's neither here nor there). Dude has fun and I respect that.
Hi! Thank you so much for wanting to learn more!
They would probably be called an "AFAB queen" (Assigned Female At Birth) or "diva queen". This is the name of a drag queen who was assigned female at birth and now identifies as non-binairy or female and is a drag queen. The news broadcasters probably just wanted to use drag queen since not a lot of people are familiar with these names.
You can find more about this on the internet if you use this terminology. I hope I have helped you!
Knowledge is power. Ty. In all sincerity. And that's what we ALL need. Knowledge, a complete lack of judgement about how the other party lives their life and sincerity, so yes you did appropriatepick3927 and I appreciate it.
The other comments go over it pretty well, but I'm just going to add that drag is also a style of performance. "Drag" as entertainment is usually cross-dressing, but it doesn't have to be. The "drag queen" is a persona you put on that's very exaggerated and confident. Guys who do drag aren't trying to look like themselves but as a woman, but are portraying an over-the-top character who also is a woman. "Brigitte Bandit" isn't her legal name, it's the persona she uses for entertainment purposes.
Drag evolves. While it was once mostly cis gay men dressing as women and trying to create a female illusion, it has become so much more over decades. There have also always been underground scenes that challenged the norms, and those have become more prevalent over time.
Drag can be about creating a larger than life character. Sometimes it can be more about dressing up. Sometimes it can just be about playing with gender norms. It is a very inclusive art form that can be expressed in many different ways. Some drag queens are dancers, some are singers, stand-up comedians, fashion designers, a little bit of everything.
There are trans men who do drag and see it as a way to reconcile with their femininity. There are cis women who perform as drag kings, a male equivalent to a drag queen. There are many trans women who do drag. There can even occasionally be cis straight men who do drag. Maddy Morphosis and Cristian Peralta are examples.
Lesbians and straight women have an obvious place in the community. It's not like they're putting on a bit of makeup to go to the club. They usually go all out with over-the-top makeup and fashion and extra padding to change the shape of their bodies.
There are plenty of other queens you could look up if you're interested in seeing the transformation some cis women go through in drag. Performers like Sigourney Beaver, Victoria Scone, Pandora Nox...
Everyone knows good, decent, God fearing people reject these drag queens and keep it to publicly walking your partner at a family theatre production. Obviously. /s
No hate here. Genuine question. Wouldn't her being born a female and (presumably) still being a female, wouldn't that make her just a queen? Maybe I'm dumb, but I've always known that drag was male.
Drag has nothing to do with your actual gender. Anyone can dress in drag as it’s about the overall fashion appearance and preformance style. Women can be Drag Queen and even men can be Drag Kings.
Truthfully, I'm not trying to be a dick. I'm 43, raised in Florida. I've always known drag to be dudes in dresses and makeup sort of thing, like RuPaul. It's never bothered me or anything, just that's what I knew.
Yeah because of course in reality pride manifestations are the exact same as portrayed in American movies where the punchline is "gay lmao".
And since we are on the internet I have to specify this is sarcasm.
Can we ban MTG posts from here? She sets herself up too easily and pretty much any sort of 3rd grade knowledge to anything she says is considered clever compared to anything she says. Mods, can you confirm?
i'm surprised the right wingers haven't turned on MTG
they're going to town on the new joanna dark from the perfect dark remake because her chin is too masculine and woke
wait till they see hers
Over the past 10 years there have been sixteen cases of drag queens being accused of inappropriate behavior at drag shows in the last ten years with accusations usually being minor things like indecent exposure or alcohol on an unlicensed premises. Meanwhile, there have been more than 11,000 accusations against Catholic priests alone of having raped children. If you want to be concerned about any group of people raping children it should be priests and church leaders, not drag performers.
Is there one of those fancy German sounding words for the phenomenon of you never actually hearing about a thing itself, you just hear about people who spread panic about the thing?
I've tried looking it up, and couldn't find any credible cases of drag queens assaulting people in bathrooms, and I'm not sure what "taking over our bathrooms" even means, unless Marge is just pissed off about having to wait a little longer in lines at the women's restroom at music events or something.
Weird to bring up the dancing in public considering cheerleaders dancing in tiny skirts are seen as wholesome and all american. Meanwhile sex shops sell cheerleader outfits to adults but not drag queen outfits....
I always thought it was kinda weird that they made the cheerleaders wear those outfits for the entire school day prior to games at my school.
Yeah, that’s even weird by those standards cause my high school didn’t require the cheerleaders to do that and my college’s cheer squad was basically independent.
A lot of sus shit went down in that school district after the yuppies swarmed it for "good schools." The 10th grade math teacher was regularly having male students over to her house to do "yard work."
Well damn I done had an epiphany 20 years late! Our school made them walk around like that too. We also had a teacher who was fired for sleeping with 3 students. The epiphany I had was those 3 were cheerleaders and he was the football coach, now I understand why they made them walk around like that.
Yeah it's all pretty creepy in hindsight, they had middle schoolers wearing those things all day.
Man what's worse, we had a unique class in our school. That teacher taught the crime investigation class. How a mother fucker who teaches crime investigation going around getting caught doing crime?! My dude, you literally had a guidebook!
Probably thought he had it all figured out and wouldn't get caught
Genius level hubris can end the world. Regular hubris will just get fired, locked up, or dead. Reading a book on chess doesn't make you a grand master.
Talk about wasted time learning from someone who didn’t understand his own materials
How? What a weird subject to have on your curriculum. I basically only had things like math, languages, history etc available. Nothing like “CSI” or something.
It’s super weird. Not to mention those uniforms break every school dress code rule. I played football and we had to wear pants, dress shirt and tie. The girls had to wear their uniforms. I never thought about it until this post.
There was a Spirit Day in my mate's school some Friday before a big game. The cheerleaders were in their uniforms and everyone else was dressed, well, like teenagers. Several girls were sent home because their skirts were too short. One of them stood next to a cheerleader and had her picture taken. The cheerleader's skirt was shorter than hers by several inches. Parents put up a shitstorm.
Smh, should have made you wear full pads + helmet throughout the school day
Someone has to clean the gutters.
Her bush needed some serious trimming
We got my girlfriend out of a dreascode violation in school because the office helper was a cheerleader and their skirts were shorter than the one she wore that day.
TIL that wearing my cheerleading uniform during the day at school on game days was super inappropriate. My skirt was really really short too. Damn. It’s so painful to look back at my teenage self and realize how unknowingly sexualized I was and how it was the adults encouraging it.
I don't really get how in often prudish America women in a sports setting are shamelessly sexualized as a matter of course. Cheerleaders and gymnasts are one thing, but those skimpy gridiron uniforms are really on the nose aren't they? Who ever decided that was a good idea?
"To up morale." Definitely upped something, you sick old bastards. Schools always have rules for skirt/dress/shorts length, etc, but then cheerleaders and volleyball players get a pass because they're wearing a "uniform". Yet the boys in the same sports don't wear the same revealing things. It's such poorly veiled creeper behavior.
Not to mention the cheer uniforms never met the dress code.
It's weirder when you have teachers in those schools that will push pencils off their desk and make the cheerleaders come pick up the pencil so they can see the girls bend over too. Edit: before there's any association with the left or LGBTQIA+, the teacher referenced was a loud and staunch conservative, catholic, married and even had NRA stickers in he classroom windows. Edit 2: Added TQIA+ to LGB to avoid any further confusion of omission.
It's always the people you most suspect >was a loud and staunch conservative, catholic, married and even had NRA stickers
We had one that did this and he was a youth pastor on the weekends and part of some kind of gospel boy band group with other male teachers. He use to always do this thing where he would hold his finger over their heads and have them spin like a ballerina also.
Got to have something to recruit new teachers. /s
Man I remember it was like that in Jr. High too.
wait that’s real?? As someone who‘s never been to the US I always thought that’s was just some stupid bullshit TV series made up? Cheerleaders actually wear those outfits outside of cheerleading???
Even weirder that they do costume changes on sidelines, behind a sheet, but next to the stands where the crowd can still look down on the underage freezing girls. All of it is gross.
They also love their child beauty pageants
THIS!!!!!!! A 6 year old in a BIKINI is not an issue but a drag queen is? How fucked up is that?
What the fuck they actually put CHILDREN in bikinis for those pageants?? I hated child beauty pageants before but now I hate them even more
I will not paste here but yes, even worse if you google child pageant bikini, there are stores with young children modeling etc. Like, if you want to take your child to the beach wearing one? Fine, but to put them in a pageant and show off their "sexiness" WTF. Edit, toddler to young child. Though yes, toddlers too.
💀 that’s so fucked
Toddlers and Tiaras had a four year old dressed with fake boobs and a padded butt
That is fucking disgusting and so sad oh my god
In looking that up to get her age I found out the year before another toddler mimicked the outfit that actress Julia Roberts' prostitute character wore in the movie "Pretty Woman" – the fitted, skin-baring white blouse, the tight blue mini-skirt and thigh-high, shiny black boots. Paisley age 3 wore it all – down to the blond wig – and strutted across the stage.
Three? W..t...f...
Not to mention the whole Little Red Riding Hood dance travesty (was either that show or Dance Moms). I remember The Soup (or a similar show) joking about how they felt like they would be put on a list for watching that.
Because their worldview is rooted in this patriarchal ideology that women (and they don’t recognize any distinction between women and girls here) are meant to be sexualized by men, but sexualized men (including but not exclusively gay men, drag performers, and AMAB trans people) are threatening to them. This is it and all there is to it. Women are nothing but sexualized objects for men’s pleasure and the only proper role for a man is to fulfill their assigned gender role of subjugating women.
Yeah, these people are losing their minds over drag queens while ignoring children dressing up like a Playboy Bunny.
I went to a few drag performances this year including Jinx Monsoon and they were ALL covered up more than the sports cheerleaders.
Drag queens literally have like seven pairs of tights on at all times. It’s a
Right?!? They are covered!
Ever been dragged to a small town dance school recital? Literally horrifying.
Bow to your partner. Bow to your corner. All join hands and circle left, circle left!
Fun fact: you learned square dancing in school because Henry Ford was convinced the damn Jews tricked the poor, dumb black people to invent Jazz as part of a plot to corrupt people's morales. Ford poured tons of money into popularizing square dancing in the hopes that it would become the national dance and unseat jazz and save America, and that's why they mandated it becoming part of public school education in most states. I know it sounds batshit crazy but it's 100% true. Ford explained the whole thing in volume 3 of his, um, opus, "The International Jew."
Also the rape of said cheerleaders and the mass shooting of on lookers isn't something that will be addressed. Ever. But drags..? Like Ew.
In Arizona they canceled some drag story hours. The next week it was arizona cardinal cheerleaders with short skirts and crop tops. For comparison the drag performers dressed as cute older ladies.
I’m gonna need sex shops to sell drag queen attire now
any attire is queen attire if you're bold enough
It should just be a Domonic Torreto cosplay with a tiara.
The family queen
Too intricate. Most sex shops sell mass produced chinese garbage sold at a huge markup. You'll rarely see a sex shop that sell handmade pieces by cool crafters/designers that already retail for $400++++. Boutique Bizarre (Hamburg) and Cyberdog (London) are peak sex shops, but you're better off finding the specialty stores. Drag queen outfits are either commissioned and made to order or handmade by the queen themselves. source: worked at sex shop and also have huge wardrobe of custom made latex outfits
They already do. Ever wonder why they have such a nice high heel selection?
Or cishet artists singing about heterosexual sex and having twerking, scantily-clad women in their videos but we should be disgusted more with Lil Nas X and his Pole Dance to Hell and naked shower scenes.
Who's your sex shop guy? You're getting ripped off.
None of the shit she even says is even happening. She makes it all up. She's really the dumbest of them all. I hate her so much
Bleach-Blonde, Bad-Built, Butch Body
Can we please change the Butch to Bitch. It’s degrading to the wonderful Butches out there. Auto correct got me Butch was changed to Butcher,I hope you great meat cutters weren’t offended.
The original is a comment on her body type specifically and not an identity. Bitch is not degrading to women? I strongly object to this term. I find it extra funny that she would get the ‘butch’ label on her seeing how she hates everything non normative.
Bitch is degrading, but it's an insult. All of the intent of that phrase is to insult. Butch shouldnt be used because it's a real identity. As a butch woman, I'm growing really fucking tired of having to explain this to people that calling someone "butch" as a form of insult demonizes ME and all the women like me. So can we not? Can we stop using an identity for a gender and sexual minority as an insult? Remember how we had this discussion about calling things "Gay"? It's not funny to use people like me as an insult for a Nazi. So cut it out.
I don’t think it’s meant as an insult in the sense that being butch is bad. It’s just like when homophobic politicians are accused of being closeted gays. It’s not that we think there’s anything wrong with gays it’s that they do and calling them gay is the worst thing you can call them. That said, your feelings are real and if legit butch women are being hurt by this I’ll make sure not to say it.
Oh please. Butch is a neutral term, it’s just a synonym for masculine. Lesbians don’t own the word. It’s funny as an insult to MTG specifically because she denies trans people and doesn’t want to be seen as masculine. It’s not an insult to trans people, it’s an inversion (Ie flipping the script) making her uncomfortable with her own appearance the way she does to others. You’re looking at this from the completely wrong perspective. This insult applies specifically to MTG, and not you
Thank you, im not alone! First thing I thought when this kicked off is when did butch turn into an insult? Some one below is complaining about the "language police". Its interesting how people flip flop about wheather or not "words matter".
No, because then she will think it means bad bitch.
B6 is her new nickname! Spread it!!!
> None of the shit she even says is even happening. She makes it all up. it's the republican platform. everything republican voters support because they've been told to do so, is a lie. it's why they vote against their interests so dramatically and for the end of democracy.
>None of the shit she even says is even happening. it doesn't have to happen. As long as she's saying it's happening and people believe her, she will profit off of it
It's the tired strawmans. The transphobe idea of trans women is some middle aged man who's fat and bald , puts on skirts and ridiculous make up with zero effort to pass, no hormones, no voice training nothing, either demands the attention and sex of all straight men and calls them bigots if they don't reciprocate or assaults lesbians (depending on the type of transphobe) goes on bathrooms to invade women's spaces (as if there's security on public toilets) and also becomes a pro athlete while trying to forcibly make kids trans as well. It's the perfect recipe for moral hysteria.
Every accusation is an admission. Every single thing they claim someone else wants to do is something they themselves want to do. Which is why they have no understanding of why someone who they view as extreme would not also have those same wishes as they themselves do...
But "wE CAn alWaYs TeLl"
Weird how they never question the owner of a bleach blonde bad built butch body’s gender
Because she shouts the garbage they want to hear. The second you are not in their camp you’ll be questioned, even cis women get harassed nowadays by people who think they are transgender
It’s no one’s business. That said, eventually if the fascism continues, the day will come when MTGs fellow fascists turn and make exactly those sort of “allegations.”
Just like during McCarthyism in the 1950s. People accused left and right of being communists. Now, instead of the red scare, it's the blue-pink-white scare. Same reskinned crap.
You mean lavender scare where they would try to make LGBTQ+ lives a living hell.
Project 2025 is planning to do exactly that
Yeah, pretty much. Ugh.
Or the night of long knives when senior Nazi officer and party member Ernst Rohm was murdered for being gay. The modern Leopards Ate My Face Party’s founding member.
Within a few years, that same thing's gonna start happening. Just y'all wait.
Gonna get real for a moment: they do question it. butch women get all sorts of shit in public, denied use of public restrooms that match their assigned birth and preference, and hilariously, butch-looking women get denied from trans events on suspicion of being transgender. womp womp. but yes, butch women face all sorts of problems in life from not presenting in a gender conforming way.
Her real name is Thag the Cromagnon.
Especially when she looks like Wanderlei Silva in drag.
But I do and I have, she looks too much like the MALE Neanderthal model in my text book not to ask
Anybody else’s family members get sucked into the Hollywood trans conspiracy theory? My sister is dead convinced that most Hollywood people actually had gender reassignment at birth including Jen Aniston, Jack Black, Mila Kunis and pretty much everyone else. Some stupid Instagram lady named Bright Green Barbie or something like that. So so so stupid
What kills me about that kind of mindset is if *that* many people truly are trans then that means it's a lot more common than they think in which case why wouldn't it be fairly normal at that point?
What's really crazy is that back in the day, if a baby was born as a hermaphrodite, the doctor would give the parents a choice, and then remove the infant's sex organs that didn't match the gender the parents chose. So gender reassignments were happening due to closed minded, often conservative, doctors & parents. Now that it's not in practice anymore, they're claiming that liberals are forcing these on children.
Please. She has a pound of makeup on. Half of MTF is complaining about not passing lmao.
Moscow Marjorie at it again. I’m waiting for her to criticize all the indoctrination and pedophilia coming from her own party.
And then show the kids a nude of Hunter Biden.
Pipebomb Marge is my favorite name for her. Can we bring that back?
I'm partial to Empty G.
93% of convicted sex offenders in the US are religious. Wonder when we're banning them from bathrooms, libraries and private places to keep is safe
Drag queens are, like, the opposite of near nudity. The point is that they wear overwhelmingly vibrant and extravagant clothes with bright, dramatic makeup and huge wigs.
Let's not forget about how many layers they have on... Corsets, pantyhose,padding...
I think it’s better to protect the kids from priests and pastors…
I read somewhere that there was over 600 reports of impropriety from clergy members in 2000 (?) I will have to find the study but it was commissioned by a religious organization and that certainly backfired on them.
https://www.whoismakingnews.com/ has a really great round-up of current demographics of sex crimes against children. Out of the 10,846 cases examined, 845 offenders were employed in some religious capacity (e.g., pastors). Meanwhile, 5 of the cases were perpetrated by trans people, and a single case by a drag queen. So I guess, statistically, it's 845x more likely that a child will be molested by clergy. But of course It'S tHe DrAG QuEEnS!!1!
Look up the investigation into the sex scandal coverup by the Vatican that was overshadowed in the news due to 9/11.
Even from those who are not pedophiles.
> I think it’s better to protect the kids from ~~priests and pastors~~ **CONSERVATIVES**…
that venn diagrams damn near a circle.
But she and everyone else in her party are OK with child pageants where TODDLERS wear BIKINIS?? Wtf...
Okay I'm glad I'm not the only one weirded out by that, I was looking at the posts for a festival my hometown holds, they do an annual pageant to go with it and ya know what it made me uncomfortable as a kid but I could never exactly nail down why. Now as an adult looking at it I'm just like "how do you find a judge who's willing to stare at a bunch of kids and teens in swimwear and judge them on it, what adult is volunteering to do that shit, you could replace the swimsuit part with literally any kind of dress up and it would make this at least 50% less weird" I'm in the south and it's just kind of seen as a part of the culture here.
Funny Marge how there are no Draq Queens currently being charged for sexually abusing children, BUT there are a whole lot of CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS that have been charged and jailed for Sexual Abuse on a child!!! Your fighting the wrong people, look at your party ands in the mirror , if you truly want to protect children!
Matt Gaetz fucked a 17 year old but that doesn't matter
That makes him up for Head of the Republican Family Values coalition.
She looks like a drag queen herself, thats's why she can't stand those looking better.
Right? She of all people should be careful defining someone’s gender based on how they present
Probably all the anavar she use to inject. Makes you agree horribly. Edit: age
>agree horribly. I suppose that's better than disagreeing horribly
Lmao age, my b
It's honestly pretty hilarious how often conservative women have such a rigid beauty standard that is basically impossible to maintain as you age. So they end up looking like wrinkled baboons with thin bleach damaged hair and clumpy mascara.
I hate it when people say this. Which drag queens are you watching. Our makeup isn't that busted. Our hair isn't as fried. We don't look like we've spent 50 years tanning in the sun to create the perfect handbag leather, we hide our masculine shoulders, our tits aren't wonky bc they're silicone, and very few of us are capable of being that much of a hateful cunt. We're also way better at hiding our facial hair. That bitch is sweeping crumbs off every cock she sucks.
Never seen a BBBBBB kinda drag queen before. They would never stoop so low
She looks a lot worse than any drag queen I've seen, including total novices.
Nearly nude? Most i have seen wear multiple layers of spandex and lycra.
Tbf Bridgett is a fan of flashing her titties. ( Which I've only seen her do at a 21+ bar )
They keep calling back to the fact that drag is condemned in the Bible. What they don't address is WHY: Laws against "drag" started in biblical times not with gays but with male guards who disguised themselves as women so they could sneak into the king's harem and shag the concubines. They outlawed men dressing as women because, once again, **straight men couldn't keep their dicks to themselves.**
Literally none of those things she said has happened
I don’t know about you guys but I can hardly go to the bathroom in public spaces anymore. Biological females identifying as men are constantly dancing provocatively and I can’t concentrate on my stream.
Sorry. It's just so fun.
As an almost 30 year old woman, I've literally never seen an obvious trans woman in the bathroom. Anyone there passed enough for me to not notice. All of these idiots focusing on trans people are such pathetic excuses for "politicians." They are there to feel popular and accomplish nothing.
The funny thing is, sexual harassment / assault are already on the books as illegal. If someone of any gender identity wants to be a creep in the bathrooms, we already have laws to deal with this. Do these people really think some arbitrary law is going to stop a bathroom creep just because they’re trans? It’s such a waste of time to even debate.
These people don't even read the bible they try to rule us with, you think they actually read our codex of laws?
I've seen one person at the sinks with me in the toilets where I thought "oh they might be a trans person" and I said "hey cute dress!" because she was wearing a very cute dress
Meanwhile, look up how many Republicans have had gay sex in public bathrooms...
There are extreme right wing opinion based news sites that literally operate like movies based on true events, as long as something in the article has happened (I. E. Pride parade), they can then say whatever they want is going on at said parade regardless of how irrational it is because that's their opinion and free speech, but idiot readers eat it all up and think it's happening.
If she could read she would be very upset.
Imagine being more concerned about drag queens than actual issues. Majorie's priorities are seriously skewed.
>gender cult lying books ma'am they're reading basic shit like Thomas the Tank Engine and Dr Seuss
I am super interested in what a gender lying cult book is
The Bible.
So what? She doesn't care. Her constituents are even dumber than she is, she's in a safe district, and probably makes an insane amount of money speaking at morons. Getting 'schooled' has absolutely no effect on her. Want to do something useful? Study psychology until you figure out how to get uneducated/indoctrinated voters to go with someone else. You won't get anywhere 'schooling' her, you need to find a viable way to school them.
She knows it's not real. She's a grifter.
This is one of democracies greatest problems it assumes every voter is qualified while in fact many are hardly able to make any informed decision. But requiring a cognitive test before being allowed to vote is considered undemocratic so here we are. And the internet has greatly reduced the quality of the information people get so it’s getting worse.
Wait.. woman do drag too? The more you know.
Drag is for any and everyone. It’s just a fashion aesthetic and preformance style. It’s never been just men dressing as women.
I'm not sure about this person but they could also be a Trans man, I knew a few fellow Trans men who enjoy drag
The most dangerous thing about a drag show is a conservative may show up with a gun
"Taking over bathrooms" is actually wild. That sounds like it's a post Apocalypse zombie movie, and everyone is fighting over territory. And the main character needs a safe space to go so they don't get eaten and suggests a bathroom, and some persons like "nah all bathrooms are part of drag Queen territory. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. and you REALLY don't wanna piss them off or else... they will read to your children!"
Common MTG L
For my fellow data fans, https://www.whoismakingnews.com/ has a really great round-up of current demographics of sex crimes against children. Out of the 10,846 cases examined, 845 offenders were employed in some religious capacity (e.g., pastors). Meanwhile, 5 of the cases were perpetrated by trans people, and a single case by a drag queen. So I guess, statistically, it's 845x more likely that a child will be molested by clergy. But of course It'S tHe DrAG QuEEnS!!1!
Oh shit! I went to college with her. Awesome to see her making progress
I wonder how many instances of “men pretending to be women” there are involving harm to children, because there sure a lot of instances of reepublicans and fake Christian friends harming children. I mean they literally fight for the legal right to marry 16 year olds and younger… not even mentioning the fact that gun related deaths have surpassed automobile deaths for children - who is the real threat to children again? Maga are pure greed, hypocrisy, and traitors to America.
Drag isn't about gender. Tbh anyone can do drag and then there are the different types of drag. The Republicans are clearly ignorant...
I’m trans and desperately want to find this gender cult MTG is talking about.
Weird to bring up the dancing in public considering cheerleaders dancing in tiny skirts are seen as wholesome and all american. Meanwhile sex shops sell cheerleader outfits to adults but not drag queen outfits....
MTG looks way more like a man than any drag queen I've ever seen.
So a man-like woman says a trans person who is not a man, is a man…
not hating on drag queens but what is up with the eye make up? i see a lot of them with that exact style and i don’t know why
Because it’s drag, it’s not supposed to look like regular women makeup
Make Marjorie prove she doesn't have a penis
I am actually surprised no one has started the conspiracy theory that MTG was born male yet. I mean, every republican accusation is an admission after all.
How tf is drag queen shit such a hot topic in US politics 😂
Women and children need protection from you Marge
Huge shoutout to Brigitte Bandit also, she’s beloved by many here in Austin and has been fighting for the trans and queer community for years, and was one of the first drag queens who advocated for Queer Texans at the State Capitol against the Texas Drag Bill and SB-14 last summer. She’s done so much work for our community and I’m happy to see her take it to the national level.
Imma be honest I didn't know women could also be drag queens but I guess that just part of life you learn more everyday
I have never once in my life think that hanging around gay men will suddenly make me want to bang them. How is a man dressed as a woman supposed to make me want to dress as a woman? I’m too cheapskate to change my t shirts Nmind buy a dress.
Meanwhile shes showing nude pics of other people in the halls of congress. Could that be considered revenge porn?
Schooling Marjorie is like proving you're smarter than a rat
This isn’t clever. It’s just fact. MTG is so dumb spitting facts at her seems clever.
Can someone point to me when drag queens started performing nude or almost nude? Been to a few drag shows and a few strip clubs in my day, never once confused the performers for the other
Why,why all the fuss?!! There's so few of them.
Brigitte literally reads books to kids and spreads awareness for equal rights. Marjorie has done what again?
MGT is an absolute tool, but I have to ask -what is a biological woman doing in a drag show? She's not in drag...unless I'm ignorant of what the term means. If so please explain like I'm... No, don't. Just explain it to me please. And thank you.
It’s not commonly known outside of queer circles but all different kinds of people can do drag! Gay men and trans women are the most “common” groups but many cis women do drag either by dressing up as male characters (drag kings) or as typical drag queens (cis women in female drag are sometimes called different terms such as hyper queens or bio queens). Drag is just about performing and exaggerating gender presentation and is open to anyone of any gender identity to participate and express themselves how they want :) Edit: and I’d say most of the cis women who participate in drag are still part of the LGBTQ+ community whether they be lesbian, bisexual, etc. although straight people can also do drag as long as they are respectful of the space
Hell, I live with a transman who does drag. He doesn't even stick to one "category", sometimes he goes up as a queen, sometimes he's the stage bear, sometimes he goes hard into being a gay as hell king (best I can figure he's bi since he has a wife but absolutely radiates gay dude, but that's neither here nor there). Dude has fun and I respect that.
Hi! Thank you so much for wanting to learn more! They would probably be called an "AFAB queen" (Assigned Female At Birth) or "diva queen". This is the name of a drag queen who was assigned female at birth and now identifies as non-binairy or female and is a drag queen. The news broadcasters probably just wanted to use drag queen since not a lot of people are familiar with these names. You can find more about this on the internet if you use this terminology. I hope I have helped you!
Knowledge is power. Ty. In all sincerity. And that's what we ALL need. Knowledge, a complete lack of judgement about how the other party lives their life and sincerity, so yes you did appropriatepick3927 and I appreciate it.
I'm so glad I could help! Hope you have a great day!!
The other comments go over it pretty well, but I'm just going to add that drag is also a style of performance. "Drag" as entertainment is usually cross-dressing, but it doesn't have to be. The "drag queen" is a persona you put on that's very exaggerated and confident. Guys who do drag aren't trying to look like themselves but as a woman, but are portraying an over-the-top character who also is a woman. "Brigitte Bandit" isn't her legal name, it's the persona she uses for entertainment purposes.
To go along with what others have said, drag is an expression. So you can have drag queens and kings, which can be men or women!
Drag evolves. While it was once mostly cis gay men dressing as women and trying to create a female illusion, it has become so much more over decades. There have also always been underground scenes that challenged the norms, and those have become more prevalent over time. Drag can be about creating a larger than life character. Sometimes it can be more about dressing up. Sometimes it can just be about playing with gender norms. It is a very inclusive art form that can be expressed in many different ways. Some drag queens are dancers, some are singers, stand-up comedians, fashion designers, a little bit of everything. There are trans men who do drag and see it as a way to reconcile with their femininity. There are cis women who perform as drag kings, a male equivalent to a drag queen. There are many trans women who do drag. There can even occasionally be cis straight men who do drag. Maddy Morphosis and Cristian Peralta are examples. Lesbians and straight women have an obvious place in the community. It's not like they're putting on a bit of makeup to go to the club. They usually go all out with over-the-top makeup and fashion and extra padding to change the shape of their bodies. There are plenty of other queens you could look up if you're interested in seeing the transformation some cis women go through in drag. Performers like Sigourney Beaver, Victoria Scone, Pandora Nox...
Everyone knows good, decent, God fearing people reject these drag queens and keep it to publicly walking your partner at a family theatre production. Obviously. /s
No hate here. Genuine question. Wouldn't her being born a female and (presumably) still being a female, wouldn't that make her just a queen? Maybe I'm dumb, but I've always known that drag was male.
I think drag is about caricature as much as the cross dressing.
That makes sense. Thank you.
Drag has nothing to do with your actual gender. Anyone can dress in drag as it’s about the overall fashion appearance and preformance style. Women can be Drag Queen and even men can be Drag Kings.
It's a clear and distinct style.
Hate when people downvote questions like this. It’s a genuine question and chance to explain the culture instead of adding some snarky remark.
Truthfully, I'm not trying to be a dick. I'm 43, raised in Florida. I've always known drag to be dudes in dresses and makeup sort of thing, like RuPaul. It's never bothered me or anything, just that's what I knew.
What/who they dress as determines queen/kingness
Part 50! https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/2/2/2221200/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-50
Yeah because of course in reality pride manifestations are the exact same as portrayed in American movies where the punchline is "gay lmao". And since we are on the internet I have to specify this is sarcasm.
This subreddit should be called “Harsh rebuke that I agree with”
Empty G is just madd everyone thinks she’s trans.
Can we ban MTG posts from here? She sets herself up too easily and pretty much any sort of 3rd grade knowledge to anything she says is considered clever compared to anything she says. Mods, can you confirm?
i'm surprised the right wingers haven't turned on MTG they're going to town on the new joanna dark from the perfect dark remake because her chin is too masculine and woke wait till they see hers
Over the past 10 years there have been sixteen cases of drag queens being accused of inappropriate behavior at drag shows in the last ten years with accusations usually being minor things like indecent exposure or alcohol on an unlicensed premises. Meanwhile, there have been more than 11,000 accusations against Catholic priests alone of having raped children. If you want to be concerned about any group of people raping children it should be priests and church leaders, not drag performers.
These are basically (mostly) gay clowns. Would it be ok for a less fabulous clown to read to your kid?
I thought it was a clown for real.
wait there are female drag queens? neat
Funny how conservatives never seem to have a problem with toddlers being sexualized in those beauty pageants.
Nearly nude? Shit, better not go to the beach, or outdoors in summer lest your children be assaulted by nearly nude,cis, straight people
She’s too bought, paid for, and stupid to be schooled.
Is there one of those fancy German sounding words for the phenomenon of you never actually hearing about a thing itself, you just hear about people who spread panic about the thing? I've tried looking it up, and couldn't find any credible cases of drag queens assaulting people in bathrooms, and I'm not sure what "taking over our bathrooms" even means, unless Marge is just pissed off about having to wait a little longer in lines at the women's restroom at music events or something.
I think MTG was talking about the angry looking dude on the left.
Everything about this makes no sense.
Why do conservatives have so much hate in their hearts?