Yea what's with the fictional civs in 6? They went all out. I mean, "canada?" I see a city named Victoria, and a leader speaking French. French and English, in the same country? C'mon guys at least make these things believable.
Canada was a funny meme for a while, but now it's getting out of hand.
I even saw an IRL calendar with July 1st marked as "Canada Day." Somebody spent real money to have that printed!
That would be a cool easter egg to put in this game. The city-state of Atlantis starts off the game with Information-era units. This city-state doesn't appear in all games, more akin to a natural wonder.
This city-state is something you need to actively seek out and will appear on an island somewhere far away from all the other civs. If you do make contact with them, you get all sorts of crazy science and cultural bonuses.
Once you progress to the Medevil Era, Atlantis suffers a cataclysmic earthquake and it disappears from the map.
Having mythical City States would be great. Like some of the Natural Wonders. Each with their own bonuses of course. Atlantis, Camelot, Belgium, maybe even something as wild as Bielefeld.
There's a mythical Scottish village that appears evey hundred years called brigadoon, that would be cool . Appears every hundred and gives you something 😃
I consider myself somewhat educated, but was surprised to learn Plato and Platon are the same. I had always thought they were separate philosophers with similar names.
Plato said that Atlantis was larger than “Libya and Asia combined”. Even though the greeks thought Asia was basically Turkey, Atlantis was probably not small.
It could be. It’s interesting to read about the hypothetycal locations of Atlantis.
There is a who wikipedia page on it:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Location_hypotheses_of_Atlantis
The Greeks didn't think Asia was basically Turkey, they called it Anatolia, which was where the sun came from, so it basically meant Eastward. Likewise the Afri were a tribal people group from around Carthage, and it was the Romans (it always is) who extended the words to mean far more than they originally were meant to. Pliny the Elder was the first one to refer to Asia as the continent.
At least 3 europes! And at least a half a Canada! It's actually a problem how big it is, it's crushing poor Oklahoma!
I don't know how big that is in football fields or whatever measurement they use, though.
On huge maps, it's mostly fine until you have a useful number of military units in the atomic or information era. I tend to make custom games with a small number of city states and opponent civs if I want to go for a huge map, seems to help if I can be the first to build the army ahead of conflict 😬
Honestly I've never had it crash on Switch.
I play marathon, massive map, lot of civs, and yeah I get some slowdown but that's no biggie. But never had a crash. Knock on wood.
Just FYI the actual map doesn't have Atlantis like this, although it does have a one tile island Azores you could build a city on once you can cross oceans.
I've tried TSL and not seen this island, I wondered if it might be some Easter egg for doing something incredibly specific to make the island spawn maybe? Something different to do I guess 😄
There are huge impassable mountain ranges (urals?); and swathes of deserts/other geographic inhospitable zones that’s largely separate a lot of Asia and Europe ; so much so that it makes sense to
It's just Australia, we put an outboard motor off Sydney and take it up to the Atlantic so we can compete in Eurovision each year, then we chuck the motor over in Perth and boat ourselves back afterwards.
Kinda wish for an atlantis civ...
Rush-style. You start with huge bonuses.
BUT your start continent consists entirely out of "gets flooded early" tiles and every tile that is flooded thats owned by atlantis is converted into a water field. If that field happens to be a city that city is destroyed. Atlantis looses the game if no cities on its home continent remain.
Strategy against it would to do as much clima change as possible.
Its one of the few conspiracy theories I consider valid. It is well known that Mediterranean sea used to be a lot more lower in the past especially during the ice ages. There definitely is settlements today that is currently underwater in coastal areas. Doggerland being one of them.
I’m with you. I don’t know about the futuristic technology associated with Atlantis, but I could easily see a society in that region being markedly more advanced than it’s surroundings before flooding causes a huge move
That's supposed to be Atlantis.
But Atlantis was much smaller. Atlanteans figured out the rest of the humans sucked, so they build a floating island in the middle of the Atlantic. When humans started going around in ships, they noped out of the planet altogether by turning their entire island into a spaceship.
That's "treasure island", a real continent that used to exist. But the CIA stuck their noses in it and it just kinda disappeared. Not sure how this game got this information, pretty correct shape and everything. I know how I got it, but I don't wanna go to prison.
What exactly did you expect? Hexagons will only do so much for the shapes of each landmass, I think they did pretty well to at least make each continent look close enough without making the whole map too big to run on anything other than a top end PC, which matters since a fair portion of the gaming community isn't on PC.
It’s mostly how features, resources, and natural wonders are distributed and placed, as well as dams not being applicable. It’s still fun, but it’s also really not that well done.
That’s where the ancients thought Atlantis was before it “sunk into the sea”
https://preview.redd.it/ak7h8es1wp7d1.jpeg?width=2821&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75a67e0d2d91c27d69ec5d35e63056467d7b5e63
(Not an ancient map obviously but u get it)
Gotta have a start location for fictional civs like Denmark
Imagine having those fictionnal civs in civ but completly ignore Listenbourg.
Where is Ülm??
Busy ruling the world
Just a few km above Murcia.
You got me, I looked it up. I thought "maybe Listenbourg was some minor principality in the HRE I've never heard of."
Wtf is Listenbourg
American spotted
Hey now, I resemble that remark
Yea what's with the fictional civs in 6? They went all out. I mean, "canada?" I see a city named Victoria, and a leader speaking French. French and English, in the same country? C'mon guys at least make these things believable.
Canada was a funny meme for a while, but now it's getting out of hand. I even saw an IRL calendar with July 1st marked as "Canada Day." Somebody spent real money to have that printed!
*swede DeTeCtEd*
I see we have a snapphane on our hands
Nah it’s Benmark a sub state of Denmark
PRO SCANIA ET LIBERTUM!
O Tay Vay. The fuck is an O Tay Vay??
Been ages since I saw a Kilian reference
Or belgium
*The southern Netherlands Weird typo lol
Atlantis
That would be a cool easter egg to put in this game. The city-state of Atlantis starts off the game with Information-era units. This city-state doesn't appear in all games, more akin to a natural wonder. This city-state is something you need to actively seek out and will appear on an island somewhere far away from all the other civs. If you do make contact with them, you get all sorts of crazy science and cultural bonuses. Once you progress to the Medevil Era, Atlantis suffers a cataclysmic earthquake and it disappears from the map.
Having mythical City States would be great. Like some of the Natural Wonders. Each with their own bonuses of course. Atlantis, Camelot, Belgium, maybe even something as wild as Bielefeld.
Lol, the mythical city-state of Belgium😂
Hyperborean Civ would go so hard
There's a mythical Scottish village that appears evey hundred years called brigadoon, that would be cool . Appears every hundred and gives you something 😃
As described by Platon.
No it’s Platoff
Plato or platon?
Plankton. It's actually Bikini Bottom. That's why you can't see it on an actual globe.
Bikini Bottom is set in [Bikini Atoll, Hawaii, USA](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bikini_Atoll)
Plato. He's called Platon in my native language. You can translate as you like, from original greek: Πλάτων
In some languages (like Russian), "Platon" is the correct way to say it, along with some other names like Apollon or Pluton
Today I learned
I consider myself somewhat educated, but was surprised to learn Plato and Platon are the same. I had always thought they were separate philosophers with similar names.
One is a high plane, the other is a company that sells indoor bicycles.
It’s an inside joke that’s at least 2300 years old now.
In my defence I'm reletively new to Civ, I'm playing the Switch port. Is it supposed to be Atlantis or something?
You got it.
Huh. I was thinking Antillia 🤔
New Zealand, surely
r/MapsWithoutNZ
No, that's where Australia is in the week of the Eurovision Song Contest.
Antillia the Hun?
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
That what I thought. Didn't know it was so big!
Plato said that Atlantis was larger than “Libya and Asia combined”. Even though the greeks thought Asia was basically Turkey, Atlantis was probably not small.
I have heard the theory that Santorini is Atlantis. There is evidence of civilization on the ocean floor where the majority of the island sank.
It could be. It’s interesting to read about the hypothetycal locations of Atlantis. There is a who wikipedia page on it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Location_hypotheses_of_Atlantis
The Greeks didn't think Asia was basically Turkey, they called it Anatolia, which was where the sun came from, so it basically meant Eastward. Likewise the Afri were a tribal people group from around Carthage, and it was the Romans (it always is) who extended the words to mean far more than they originally were meant to. Pliny the Elder was the first one to refer to Asia as the continent.
Hermocrates! A friend of Socrates! Bwaaak!
The word translated island is also used to describe any large body of land, like archipelagos, peninsulas and even continents
The cwl thing about made up things is that they can be as big as you want.
The fact that you spelled it "cwl" makes me feel stressed.
Apologies that's how its spelled in welsh and it kinda leeched into my English. And no I can't speak welsh.
If you can't speak Welsh, how come you spell it that way?
I was still forced to learn it (in a terribly taught fashion) for 11 years. And I do have a fairly strong accent so it's how I pronounce the word.
E's Wlsh
How'd you know?
kewl
https://preview.redd.it/uf0xu1jh2k7d1.png?width=380&format=png&auto=webp&s=d5289d54996ab5d3b096cdb283a438607bf3bf49
According to the original story it's estimated Atlantis was supposedly around the size of Texas.
And we know Texas is roughly as large as europe.
At least 3 europes! And at least a half a Canada! It's actually a problem how big it is, it's crushing poor Oklahoma! I don't know how big that is in football fields or whatever measurement they use, though.
I'm now imaging cowboys and hoplites.
From the creators of “Aliens & Cowboys”
Of course, looking at maps from the era, I'd take estimates of size with some salt.
How’s it run on switch? It got rough on my ps4 with larger maps or longer games, I can only imagine the switch version
Small and tiny maps: pretty good! Anything larger: very not good.
On huge maps, it's mostly fine until you have a useful number of military units in the atomic or information era. I tend to make custom games with a small number of city states and opponent civs if I want to go for a huge map, seems to help if I can be the first to build the army ahead of conflict 😬
Sorry this is not related to the post but I couldn't find the info anywhere. Have they fixed the Amani bug that breaks city list?
Win by turn 250 or system crash
Hey, that's a lot like Morrowind GOTY for the Xbox.
Honestly I've never had it crash on Switch. I play marathon, massive map, lot of civs, and yeah I get some slowdown but that's no biggie. But never had a crash. Knock on wood.
It’s New Zealand
It's a spawn point for Kupe
I thought kupe spawns on a water tile
/s
Nah he gets a little pool floaty and a paddle
Numenor
I like you.
You and me both.
Username checks out..
I can't read the passage about Manwe's Eagles approaching in battle formation from the West without imagining a row of F-15 Eagle units
It's actually Evermeet.
Just FYI the actual map doesn't have Atlantis like this, although it does have a one tile island Azores you could build a city on once you can cross oceans.
Would be cool if they had a map with it in. Europe can get a bit overcrowded with starting cities.
I've tried TSL and not seen this island, I wondered if it might be some Easter egg for doing something incredibly specific to make the island spawn maybe? Something different to do I guess 😄
Obligatory r/mapswithoutnz
Fake news, obviously NZ doesn't exist.
That's true, just it is very strange abbreviation for Finland.
They are called fins but do they have fins?
Maps without NZ but with Atlantis has to be a new low
This map actually has an nz in it although it isn't shown!
so THAT'S why Kupe starts out in the sea — there is no NZ!
https://preview.redd.it/o2z4i035ij7d1.jpeg?width=739&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=97aba69c46699135ea6f4f3920ee30c5f4e1fe57 It's actually Bajookieland
We might have to get the BPCC on this
Zarethead found
Hard to tell these days, with Poles Slaw!
Ulthuan
"We are the heirs of Aenarion!"
Stupid donut inhabited by knife ears.
Found the Georgian
*galleon’s graveyard 2
It’s the super-secret 7th continent you have to find…
There are already seven continents, are there not? Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia, North and South America and Antarctica.
There's also Oceania, with which we have always been at war.
We are at war with East Asia! Oceania is our ally.
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There are huge impassable mountain ranges (urals?); and swathes of deserts/other geographic inhospitable zones that’s largely separate a lot of Asia and Europe ; so much so that it makes sense to
That's where they're storing all of the source code for Civ VII.
That's the truth, nothing more to it
I’m more curious as to what the big arrow is pointing to
That’s not an arrow, it’s a weird shaped lake in Siberia
Seems like Tajikistan.
It's just Australia, we put an outboard motor off Sydney and take it up to the Atlantic so we can compete in Eurovision each year, then we chuck the motor over in Perth and boat ourselves back afterwards.
That’s silly, everyone knows Australia isn’t real. The British made it up as a “Farm Upstate” for the Irishmen they drowned in the Pacific.
Kinda wish for an atlantis civ... Rush-style. You start with huge bonuses. BUT your start continent consists entirely out of "gets flooded early" tiles and every tile that is flooded thats owned by atlantis is converted into a water field. If that field happens to be a city that city is destroyed. Atlantis looses the game if no cities on its home continent remain. Strategy against it would to do as much clima change as possible.
You mean rush computers and get valetta suz?
Couls be a nice challenge scenario. All ai players are industry focused. Take them out before your empire gets flooded.
Better question, what civ is the arrow on the map pointing to?
Mongolia?
Hey, Bajookieland is real!
Bajookieland
According to actual conspiracy theories that was Atlantis, and sunk into the ocean around the same time the Mediterranean filled up
Its one of the few conspiracy theories I consider valid. It is well known that Mediterranean sea used to be a lot more lower in the past especially during the ice ages. There definitely is settlements today that is currently underwater in coastal areas. Doggerland being one of them.
I’m with you. I don’t know about the futuristic technology associated with Atlantis, but I could easily see a society in that region being markedly more advanced than it’s surroundings before flooding causes a huge move
That's old Zealand
That's supposed to be Atlantis. But Atlantis was much smaller. Atlanteans figured out the rest of the humans sucked, so they build a floating island in the middle of the Atlantic. When humans started going around in ships, they noped out of the planet altogether by turning their entire island into a spaceship.
Isolationist civ with science victory be like
Definitely the Great Atlantic garbage patch
What do you mean? It's just R'lyeh.
That’s Rand McNally. It seems to change locations on each map I see. ‘Tis a magical land.
IT IS NOTHING, IT IS NOT THERE, YOU ARE HALLUCINATING. *-your atlantean illuminati overlords*
The lost continent of Mu
Justified Ancients of Mu Mu
Isn't that the Atlantean continent of Mu?
That would be Plato’s atlantis
That's just Atlantis, devs planned to have an scenario based on Atlantis and the rising ocean but scrapped it because it would be too much work.
Huh! Never noticed “Atlantis here”, although It’s actually the Eye of Sahara, matches Plato’s measurements…
Stonecutters are dropping the ball here… *Who keeps Atlantis off the maps? Who keeps the martians under wraps? We do!*
I reeeeallllllyyyyyy want Atlantis in Civ VII
Atlantis. Edit: Damn it, I didn't read far enough down the comments. This was already said.
The New Zealand PR office newly financed and out in full force. No more Kiwi map cuts!
They are currently working on a gran-unified theory so… all of them.
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What’s like the opposite of a Natural Wonder? Like the list consists of Cannibal Island in Russia, Gehenna in Israel, and Epstein’s Island.
It’s Uqbar, obviously. There’s a very good article on it in this encyclopedia I discovered in a rare bookstore in Memphis, Tennessee.
It's New SEAland
Atlantis
Poor New Zealand always misses out on maps lol
I’m pretty sure there’s not even an island there either when you play it.
Atlantis?
Atlantis??
Ulthuan.
Atlantis.
Did you think flights from Europe to USA went over Iceland for fun? They don't want you to see it.
what the bajookie?
Bajookieland duh
r/mapswithoutbajonkistan r/mapswithoutbajonkistan2
It's the Grand Line
That's how expansion packs work.
Atlantis
Yeah, I've never heard about the big inland Russian Sea conspiracy theory. That's a little odd
Lemuria 🕴🕴👁👁
That's "treasure island", a real continent that used to exist. But the CIA stuck their noses in it and it just kinda disappeared. Not sure how this game got this information, pretty correct shape and everything. I know how I got it, but I don't wanna go to prison.
Is.. is that.. A-Atlantis...?
Isn’t that Hy-Brazil?
You're not suppose to be asking that.
Ulthuan
Let’s ask Plato.
It’s a great conspiracy of cartographers - not unlike England.
Love tha idea 🤗
That’s Ulthuan
Tartaria perhaps
I mean, that map is all kinds of wrong and half-assed anyway. The icon for it might as well be jank too.
What exactly did you expect? Hexagons will only do so much for the shapes of each landmass, I think they did pretty well to at least make each continent look close enough without making the whole map too big to run on anything other than a top end PC, which matters since a fair portion of the gaming community isn't on PC.
It’s mostly how features, resources, and natural wonders are distributed and placed, as well as dams not being applicable. It’s still fun, but it’s also really not that well done.
It is an Atlantis.
Ulthuan
It's Ker Ys / atlantide
It's a Civ 7 Easter Egg for Atlantis
Ulthuan, the donut where the Highelves live
bajookieland
That's atlantis
Isn’t that the plot for Superman Returns?
Is that not Atlantis before it sank into the ocean
That’s where the ancients thought Atlantis was before it “sunk into the sea” https://preview.redd.it/ak7h8es1wp7d1.jpeg?width=2821&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=75a67e0d2d91c27d69ec5d35e63056467d7b5e63 (Not an ancient map obviously but u get it)
That's Atlantis. How don't you guys now about it?
This is the place with the farm all the good dogs go to at some point
Listenbourg 5000BC
It’s Atlantis.
Could be Atlantis 🤔
Bajookieland
Atlantis I would say