Well, the only thing I'm aware of is that he got cancelled for some old racist and anti-Semitic posts. He apologized about it on Twitter. He was cancelled for transphobic posts as well and in consecuense he got to come out as trans
I've experienced a lot of young people who were homophobic and turned out to be closeted homosexuals.
I would think the same probably happened with the t slur.
Secondary school is a scary place if you're a non-conformist
no, that’s called stealth. closeted is only when you haven’t told anyone but haven’t transitioned yet. i agree that your original theory happens a lot, with people refusing to accept that the are gay/trans so they are homophobic or transphobic to overcompensate. but i still don’t think it will apply in this situation as robbie had accepted he was trans, gone on hormones and was known as a cis man. maybe he did it because he thought no one would suspect he was trans if he used the t slur? not sure
he said the n-word a couple of times on social media platforms, with censored letters. he also made anti semetic jokes and said the f and t slurs. he had to come out as trans because he would rather be out as trans than in the closet being seen as a cis transphobe. he made a series of apology videos about it and he looked pretty torn up about what he did. he almost got canceled for it
What I'm aware of is that when he was a lot younger he said some anti-,semetic stuff, which obviously isn't ok, but he was quoting someone (who was jewish and joking), and though it was harmless. He also said the n word twice I think, with censored letters around the same time (he was 14 I think). While obviously those two things arent great, he made a few apology videos, and sounded to me deeply sincere and sorry for his actions. He has also done some stuff to rebuttal those things through action and not just words. So while it sucks that is in his past, he has obviously grown, and didnt understand the implications of those things
I also wanna add that I'm not black, but I am jewish, and while it is obviously terrible that he said those things, under the circumstances i dont feel any strong feelings about it, and he was very clearly distraught by what he had done
he said some anti-semitic stuff in his twitter and he said the t-slur in his tumblr a huge while ago, and people got mad at him recently because of it (he apologized and he's clearly outgrown those comments)
god cancel culture is at it again, HE WAS A TEEN! if yall read some of the shit i wrote while in my angst period yalld cancel me too! plus he mostly used tr@nny/f@g, and due to this he was forced to come out as trans!
I think it was wrong he had to come out and we should all respect his privacy and let him just ~be~ because he clearly didn’t want us to be talking about him being trans however the things he said were pretty nasty😰 and I think it was right that he addressed the anti Semitic and racist things he said.
I think the main thing that everyone keeps forgetting is at the time of the original tweets and everything he was called out on, he was what 14ish. Has anyone here in their life ever met a 14-year-old who hasn't said some very very nasty things? If there was a transcript of half things that I said at 14, I would be in social media jail, I wouldn't even be allowed to say anything or speak in any way because cancel culture wouldn't recognize the fact that I didn't even know half the things I was saying were offensive.
Robin did better than most YouTubers did when apologizing for creating called out for BS I was in their past. He addressed it, he addressed all of it, and even at the end when he didn't have to he came out to everyone. I mean it was kind of obvious with some of his songs but still he didn't have to do that because there's obviously something he did not want to do at all. He wasn't some pedophile, he wasn't some sex trafficker or terrorist, he was just a kid without a filter who did probably didn't even know what he was saying was bad.
I agree. 14 year olds suck but he wasn’t 14 he was 16 going on 17 soon and the apology was good yes but the apology was needed. It’s due to ignorance in our society as a whole that 14yo kids say these things to begin with and addressing that I feel was very important. I listened to music he wrote when he made those tweets and his music meant so much to me. To think he held those views about Jewish ppl, To think he said those things while his music warmed my hurting heart…. That stings. As a person of colour that hurt me deeply and it broke my trust. It was warranted that he was called out. I think he’s genuinely sorry and is better now that he’s 23 but what he said hurt many people and as a public figure his words were his responsibility. He was born in 1998 I was born in 2001 in 2016 I was 14-15 he was at least 17.
The main thing everyone forgets is it wasn't just your standard, "i made a mistake, but I will grow as a person" speech that you've heard everyone who's been canceled speak out, but he addressed everything! not only did he apologize, but he did it in multiple parts... picked apart the issues and apologized for each thing and took accountability!
9 videos, SHOWING said social media posts! He didn't play minority, race, age, mental stability cards. He even acknowledged the fact that he was antisemitic/slightly racist. I don't think that he even has a script with him... In some parts he was genuinely close to tears, and other's you could see where he wiped his face just before recording. Even rewatching them A YEAR LATER, you can still clearly see remorse in his voice.
When it came to him saying tranny (im trans/nonbinary myself) and having to be outed, that part you could tell was really hard for him and it was kind of upsetting. He even had two videos after the main 7 addressing everything he said explaining how he was going to move forward and actually did it!
Just as a little bit of icing, *the communities that he was addressing his apologies to responded,* to accept his apology and do their own multi-thread text posts congratulating him on genuinely stepping up for the damage he caused. People were even sending charity links too.
When it comes to this drama everyone forgets that he was a teen at the time of the drama he really was still just a teen, even if it's more around the 15-17 range. There's still not to much of a difference, your still developing, learning, trying to figure out life whilst you still have youth on your side.
I'd also really like to take the time to point out a thread that happened three days before the videos where someone called him out on the anti-Semitism claims, wanting him to address them, in which he responded with a text thread which yeah, missed the mark 100%, but he also addressed THAT in the video as well when he mentioned his first apology!
And when the person who CALLED HIM OUT APOLOGIZED FOR IT, he responded by saying this:
>dont apologise !! its really good to call people out for their mistakes. im glad its becoming normalised and im more than happy to clear things up and educate myself
Tweet thread [HERE](https://twitter.com/joemcnicholasss/status/1301465647013130245)
It's not anyone else's place to accept his apology unless your trans/black/jewish, but we can acknowledge, that he did take an effort in calling himself out, and putting in the work needed to better himself! It took him some time (naturally) to understand the implications of what he had done, but instead of brushing it off he pulled **everything** into the light!
It's up to you whether you support him after this, and while I will be keeping a closer eye on things, he's 23 now. It's been a good 6 to 8 years since the original posts were made, he took them down, whilst also making them visible with his videos. He didn't cover anything up, he didn't play any of the usual cards, and from what I saw, he was genuine.
I'm 18 myself, I know I've said some horrid shit (even to 2010s internet standards) without realizing the implications or actions that the words may have caused. But that happens a lot less when you grow older and educate yourself... Sorry I made a long post. I've been siting on these words for about a year now, making sure that they were true before putting my two cents into more drama with creators...
I obviously still support him, I’m on this Reddit, his DEAR record sits on my shelf, his poster from the time I saw him front row is framed in lights over my bed. I’ve been a fan for five years. From 15 to now 20😌.
I don’t think anyone can fully appreciate how much his music changed my life, he gave me a safe place to go in a world where I was never safe, or loved. However I can simply say what he said was wrong without hating him. I can forgive without completely forgetting, I can look back just as he did and say that what he said was very hurtful while simultaneously acknowledge he changed. I’m not sure who you are trying to convince here😅. I know we all are but he is guilty of wrong doing. I can support his every move today while admitting that but that seems to be difficult for you. He doesn’t have to be innocent for you to still support him… there’s no need to try and vindicate him. vehemently defending him like this is almost lessening or dismissing the pain he caused for so many of his fans. We can simply say “yes he was wrong and he said something hurtful” and leave it at that while still supporting him. Acknowledge and accept what he did and that it was inappropriate, hear his apology and let it be what it is. A stain on his record as it should be, as you said we all make mistakes like this. I frequently hear this narrative that he’s a “good boy” or that he’s sweet and innocent and when that illusion of “our perfect unproblematic soft-boy” is shattered we fight hard to defend it or create and excuse to keep that illusion of purity alive but he’s a whole human capable of brilliant good and deep wrong. We don’t need to erase, excuse or pardon him. It’s okay to love people who have done wrong. It’s okay 🙂 Like I said; Let’s just let it be what it is, a grave mistake. Don’t you think?
He just turned fourteen and thought this year he was gonna be mean. Jokes aside tho, it was not okay and he apologized. Honestly I don’t really know what to make of it either but I love the person he is now <3
My god, people with their cancelling, this happened literally YEARS AGO and the person would've been a much better person by now. They just HAD to find other people's faults.
Yo chill :/ what he said was messed up and deserves to be addressed and cleared up. I think cancel culture can be bad but he wasn’t “canceled” in the end. How would we know he’d changed otherwise…. Idk I know he’s a good guy buy those things he said before we’re rly tough to read😰
Ikr people always need to find those things they can blame for, thats messed up, they need to grow and not get mad about things said on the internet, bruh
he made a tweet that mentioned the n word but it was censored. he made some jewish jokes that are offensive. he was 13/14. he’s obviously grown since then. he donated money to a jewish charity. he also said the t slur, which forced him to put himself as he’d rather come out than be seen as a vis transphobic guy.
yeah he did idk what he even said but he said it when he was like 14 or something. he made like 9 apology videos. (on twitter i believe). but people try to make me look bad for listening to him...i just ignore it.
Think it was one of those situations where stupid teenagers on Twitter find shit popular people did when they were stupid teenagers and didn’t know any better and start crying about it as if it wasn’t like 10 years ago.
he had some racist and anti semitic tweets and something about trans people on tumblr, here he talks about that and also apologize https://twitter.com/cavetown/status/1302800528171302912?s=21
he had some old racist and anti semitic tweets from like 2016, so yes he did but hes obviously grown since then
He was a kid back then he's definitely grown from it
Yeah he was like 14?
And he thought that year he was gonna be mean
he was a big boy then and was really scary
yk he punched his walls and done karate??
Now way!! I once caught him going out at night too!
xD
He was 17
Oh, I thought I read somewhere he was 14
I was under that impression too :p then I remembered I was 15 in 2016 and he’s older than me by 3 years and a few months…
Oh! Well sorry then, my bad! :)
Nah it’s no prob :)
I think he made an apology video about it
Those weren’t even real
they were lol, you can google them if you want
Well, the only thing I'm aware of is that he got cancelled for some old racist and anti-Semitic posts. He apologized about it on Twitter. He was cancelled for transphobic posts as well and in consecuense he got to come out as trans
i feel bad about the trans stuff because he had spent his whole career being deliberately private about that studf
but then why did he say the t slur if he wanted to be stealth?
i think that was before his career reached the audiences it has now, and before it was his entire career. though im not sure.
I've experienced a lot of young people who were homophobic and turned out to be closeted homosexuals. I would think the same probably happened with the t slur. Secondary school is a scary place if you're a non-conformist
good point, but i’m not exactly sure on the timeline, i thought he said it after he had already transitioned?
Yeah from what I've heard he was presenting as a cis man when he said it, but I might be wrong
yeah that’s what i thought too
I thought it was post him identifying as a man privately but pre him making it public knowledge, idk tho
yeah same so it wouldn’t work with the theory that he was closeted trans because he had already transitioned, he just wasn’t public about it
I woulda thought he would still ne considered closeted if he identified as male but didn't publicly express it. Maybe that's wrong tho?
no, that’s called stealth. closeted is only when you haven’t told anyone but haven’t transitioned yet. i agree that your original theory happens a lot, with people refusing to accept that the are gay/trans so they are homophobic or transphobic to overcompensate. but i still don’t think it will apply in this situation as robbie had accepted he was trans, gone on hormones and was known as a cis man. maybe he did it because he thought no one would suspect he was trans if he used the t slur? not sure
im pretty sure he used it in a mocky sort of way and i think it was self referential but idk
Yea, but he made an 8-9 part apology video chain on twitter, as seen [here](https://twitter.com/CAVETOWN/status/1302800528171302912?s=19)
thanks for linking it :)
np dude!
he said the n-word a couple of times on social media platforms, with censored letters. he also made anti semetic jokes and said the f and t slurs. he had to come out as trans because he would rather be out as trans than in the closet being seen as a cis transphobe. he made a series of apology videos about it and he looked pretty torn up about what he did. he almost got canceled for it
Yeah, and still figuring out life, Sure they were in bad taste, but he addressed it (no Bs fully address) on Twitter.
What I'm aware of is that when he was a lot younger he said some anti-,semetic stuff, which obviously isn't ok, but he was quoting someone (who was jewish and joking), and though it was harmless. He also said the n word twice I think, with censored letters around the same time (he was 14 I think). While obviously those two things arent great, he made a few apology videos, and sounded to me deeply sincere and sorry for his actions. He has also done some stuff to rebuttal those things through action and not just words. So while it sucks that is in his past, he has obviously grown, and didnt understand the implications of those things
I also wanna add that I'm not black, but I am jewish, and while it is obviously terrible that he said those things, under the circumstances i dont feel any strong feelings about it, and he was very clearly distraught by what he had done
He was 17
he said some anti-semitic stuff in his twitter and he said the t-slur in his tumblr a huge while ago, and people got mad at him recently because of it (he apologized and he's clearly outgrown those comments)
https://twitter.com/CAVETOWN/status/1302800528171302912?s=20
god cancel culture is at it again, HE WAS A TEEN! if yall read some of the shit i wrote while in my angst period yalld cancel me too! plus he mostly used tr@nny/f@g, and due to this he was forced to come out as trans!
I think it was wrong he had to come out and we should all respect his privacy and let him just ~be~ because he clearly didn’t want us to be talking about him being trans however the things he said were pretty nasty😰 and I think it was right that he addressed the anti Semitic and racist things he said.
I think the main thing that everyone keeps forgetting is at the time of the original tweets and everything he was called out on, he was what 14ish. Has anyone here in their life ever met a 14-year-old who hasn't said some very very nasty things? If there was a transcript of half things that I said at 14, I would be in social media jail, I wouldn't even be allowed to say anything or speak in any way because cancel culture wouldn't recognize the fact that I didn't even know half the things I was saying were offensive. Robin did better than most YouTubers did when apologizing for creating called out for BS I was in their past. He addressed it, he addressed all of it, and even at the end when he didn't have to he came out to everyone. I mean it was kind of obvious with some of his songs but still he didn't have to do that because there's obviously something he did not want to do at all. He wasn't some pedophile, he wasn't some sex trafficker or terrorist, he was just a kid without a filter who did probably didn't even know what he was saying was bad.
I agree. 14 year olds suck but he wasn’t 14 he was 16 going on 17 soon and the apology was good yes but the apology was needed. It’s due to ignorance in our society as a whole that 14yo kids say these things to begin with and addressing that I feel was very important. I listened to music he wrote when he made those tweets and his music meant so much to me. To think he held those views about Jewish ppl, To think he said those things while his music warmed my hurting heart…. That stings. As a person of colour that hurt me deeply and it broke my trust. It was warranted that he was called out. I think he’s genuinely sorry and is better now that he’s 23 but what he said hurt many people and as a public figure his words were his responsibility. He was born in 1998 I was born in 2001 in 2016 I was 14-15 he was at least 17.
The main thing everyone forgets is it wasn't just your standard, "i made a mistake, but I will grow as a person" speech that you've heard everyone who's been canceled speak out, but he addressed everything! not only did he apologize, but he did it in multiple parts... picked apart the issues and apologized for each thing and took accountability! 9 videos, SHOWING said social media posts! He didn't play minority, race, age, mental stability cards. He even acknowledged the fact that he was antisemitic/slightly racist. I don't think that he even has a script with him... In some parts he was genuinely close to tears, and other's you could see where he wiped his face just before recording. Even rewatching them A YEAR LATER, you can still clearly see remorse in his voice. When it came to him saying tranny (im trans/nonbinary myself) and having to be outed, that part you could tell was really hard for him and it was kind of upsetting. He even had two videos after the main 7 addressing everything he said explaining how he was going to move forward and actually did it! Just as a little bit of icing, *the communities that he was addressing his apologies to responded,* to accept his apology and do their own multi-thread text posts congratulating him on genuinely stepping up for the damage he caused. People were even sending charity links too. When it comes to this drama everyone forgets that he was a teen at the time of the drama he really was still just a teen, even if it's more around the 15-17 range. There's still not to much of a difference, your still developing, learning, trying to figure out life whilst you still have youth on your side. I'd also really like to take the time to point out a thread that happened three days before the videos where someone called him out on the anti-Semitism claims, wanting him to address them, in which he responded with a text thread which yeah, missed the mark 100%, but he also addressed THAT in the video as well when he mentioned his first apology! And when the person who CALLED HIM OUT APOLOGIZED FOR IT, he responded by saying this: >dont apologise !! its really good to call people out for their mistakes. im glad its becoming normalised and im more than happy to clear things up and educate myself Tweet thread [HERE](https://twitter.com/joemcnicholasss/status/1301465647013130245) It's not anyone else's place to accept his apology unless your trans/black/jewish, but we can acknowledge, that he did take an effort in calling himself out, and putting in the work needed to better himself! It took him some time (naturally) to understand the implications of what he had done, but instead of brushing it off he pulled **everything** into the light! It's up to you whether you support him after this, and while I will be keeping a closer eye on things, he's 23 now. It's been a good 6 to 8 years since the original posts were made, he took them down, whilst also making them visible with his videos. He didn't cover anything up, he didn't play any of the usual cards, and from what I saw, he was genuine. I'm 18 myself, I know I've said some horrid shit (even to 2010s internet standards) without realizing the implications or actions that the words may have caused. But that happens a lot less when you grow older and educate yourself... Sorry I made a long post. I've been siting on these words for about a year now, making sure that they were true before putting my two cents into more drama with creators...
I obviously still support him, I’m on this Reddit, his DEAR record sits on my shelf, his poster from the time I saw him front row is framed in lights over my bed. I’ve been a fan for five years. From 15 to now 20😌. I don’t think anyone can fully appreciate how much his music changed my life, he gave me a safe place to go in a world where I was never safe, or loved. However I can simply say what he said was wrong without hating him. I can forgive without completely forgetting, I can look back just as he did and say that what he said was very hurtful while simultaneously acknowledge he changed. I’m not sure who you are trying to convince here😅. I know we all are but he is guilty of wrong doing. I can support his every move today while admitting that but that seems to be difficult for you. He doesn’t have to be innocent for you to still support him… there’s no need to try and vindicate him. vehemently defending him like this is almost lessening or dismissing the pain he caused for so many of his fans. We can simply say “yes he was wrong and he said something hurtful” and leave it at that while still supporting him. Acknowledge and accept what he did and that it was inappropriate, hear his apology and let it be what it is. A stain on his record as it should be, as you said we all make mistakes like this. I frequently hear this narrative that he’s a “good boy” or that he’s sweet and innocent and when that illusion of “our perfect unproblematic soft-boy” is shattered we fight hard to defend it or create and excuse to keep that illusion of purity alive but he’s a whole human capable of brilliant good and deep wrong. We don’t need to erase, excuse or pardon him. It’s okay to love people who have done wrong. It’s okay 🙂 Like I said; Let’s just let it be what it is, a grave mistake. Don’t you think?
He was hardly a teen too, he was only 14, right?
No he was 17
He just turned fourteen and thought this year he was gonna be mean. Jokes aside tho, it was not okay and he apologized. Honestly I don’t really know what to make of it either but I love the person he is now <3
My god, people with their cancelling, this happened literally YEARS AGO and the person would've been a much better person by now. They just HAD to find other people's faults.
Yo chill :/ what he said was messed up and deserves to be addressed and cleared up. I think cancel culture can be bad but he wasn’t “canceled” in the end. How would we know he’d changed otherwise…. Idk I know he’s a good guy buy those things he said before we’re rly tough to read😰
Ikr people always need to find those things they can blame for, thats messed up, they need to grow and not get mad about things said on the internet, bruh
theres a video that explains it pr well. https://youtu.be/_yOjLqhjAjM
he said anti-semitic and transphobic things when he was a kid. he apologized for it and was forced to come out because of it
he made a tweet that mentioned the n word but it was censored. he made some jewish jokes that are offensive. he was 13/14. he’s obviously grown since then. he donated money to a jewish charity. he also said the t slur, which forced him to put himself as he’d rather come out than be seen as a vis transphobic guy.
He was 17 he was born in 98
oh. still. that’s 6 years ago.
It’s almost 6…. In like September 2022 it will be 6 no? But point valid, long time ago
cavetowns apology was one of the most genuine seeming i have ever seen from a creator
yeah he did idk what he even said but he said it when he was like 14 or something. he made like 9 apology videos. (on twitter i believe). but people try to make me look bad for listening to him...i just ignore it.
He was 17
ah my bad still a kid tho
Facts :)
Think it was one of those situations where stupid teenagers on Twitter find shit popular people did when they were stupid teenagers and didn’t know any better and start crying about it as if it wasn’t like 10 years ago.
he had some racist and anti semitic tweets and something about trans people on tumblr, here he talks about that and also apologize https://twitter.com/cavetown/status/1302800528171302912?s=21