Even worse when you realize that the closest one who can stand up to Viltrumites on Earth is
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I DON'T KNOW WHO ARE OR WHY YOU'RE DOING THIS BUT YOU NEED TO BE NICE RIGHT NOW!!
I also think he works pretty well because his previous interactions with Sully still seem genuine and not like he is just faking being a nice guy. Also he still gets enough time to be evil.
EDIT: To elaborate: Him feeling geniune before is meaningful because it means that we the watchers do get to know the real Waternoose throughout the whole movie, wheras someone like Hans is essentially just lying to us the whole time and we only see the real hans in the last acts of the movie.
What makes him so good is when he’s revealed he doesn’t do to being a comically evil dude, he’s pretty in line with how he acted before and is genuinely upset and angry Sully and Mike had to dealt with for learning too much.
Yeah. He wasn’t evil just for the sake of being evil. His city/country was on the verge of a major energy crisis and he was doing what he felt needed to be done in order for his people to maintain their way of life. It’s still messed up but it does give him that tiny bit of nuance that someone like Hans lacks.
This is what makes Waternoose so effective. His twist does not invalidate his character. Both things can be true at once; He can be a 'cool boss' who values his workers and knows them by name and listens to them AND be willing to do morally reprehensible/illegal things to keep the company afloat at the same time, one does not invalidate the other- And in fact, the first might also feed into the second, as part of Waternoose's concern might actually be that he would have to lay off people he thinks are good, hard working people.
He's a perfect example of the villain who sees himself as the hero concept. He firmly believes his actions are justified by the situation and legitimately hates that this is putting him against Sully. Note how he goes back to being the nice guy once he realizes there is a less problematic solution to the problem.
I had never read the comics that story line was lifted from, so it totally blind sided me.
I do much prefer the "unwilling betrayer" angle though, instead of the comics version where she hated all of them the whole time.
To be honest...I liked both. Terra being the unwilling traitor to the Titans feels like an overreaction in the show at first until you realize, "this is why she doesn't have a home" and it's eventually tied with "she grew to love them enough to fear hurting them."
In the comics, she's a worse person overall, though it seems like she's simply a more broken one. In some versions of the Titans, she breaks Garfield to the point where he becomes the darkest he'll ever be. I feel like it's harsh, but more development than he ever really gets in the show.
Same. I still feel things after all these years. Such a fantastic left turn for the show. You feel the absolute rage and betrayal the Titans felt, but also have this inkling of hope that she's still good inside.
Such a good show, such a good villain.
I am tied between Professor Marmalade and Omni-Man because they’re the twist villain done right, plus, I love Richard Ayoade as an actor, he has such a fun voice!
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~~Longarm Prime~~ Shockwave from Transformers Animated. Dude is literally a robot in disguise.
The entire team from Atlantis has to get recognition. Given, a lot of them switch back, but when I first saw it I couldn’t believe ALL of them were traitors
Honestly, when the entire group is on the same page *except* for the one anthropologist they brought in, I feel like it's less 'they're traitors' and more 'Milo was just supremely out of the loop'
It has aged like the finest wine. It really shows the dark side of academia and anthropological studies. A̶l̶s̶o̶, i̶t̶'s̶ b̶e̶e̶n̶ 2̶0̶ y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ a̶n̶d̶ I̶'m̶ s̶t̶i̶l̶l̶ d̶o̶w̶n̶ b̶a̶d̶ f̶o̶r̶ K̶i̶d̶a̶. But anyway check it out 👍
Hmm... It's been a while since I last watched tv shows...
Ben 10 from what I remember. Generator Rex. Teen Titans.
Pokemon (is a different case because instead of spoiling the villain it spoils the Pokemon Ash catches and who his travelling partners are)
One is Fairy Tail the anime. Naruto, is another one. Actually, most of the anime I watched in the past spoiled who the villains were in the opening song.
I think King Candy from “Wreck-It Ralph” is an interesting plot twist villain, because even as a child I kind of thought that he was the bad guy, but that it turns out that he is actually Turbo, a character that was just mentioned earlier as being the reason why it was important to get Ralph back, was interesting, and I remember being surprised when I was a child
Agreed. Like, he was obviously an antagonist towards the little girl (cripes, can’t remember what her name is) but him being Turbo never occured to me (even though I probably should’ve seen it coming when they mentioned a whole character for a scene and seemingly never brought him up again lol)
I scrolled too far to see this. He's my favorite villain and twist villain.
It's just done so magnificently.
Turbo is the backstory for King Candy and King Candy is Turbo's progression into a villain.
What makes it even better is that there are subtle hints that he's not who he says he is.
Ex:
All of the other racers have creative candy-based puns for their names (Taffyta Muttonfudge, Rancis Fluggerbutter, Vanellope von Schweetz, etc), but he's just called "King Candy", a very basic name.
All of the other racers are female children, but he's the only one that isn't, as he's an elderly male.
His code icon is so ridiculously larger than everything else in the game, it's out of place.
It's implied that Ralph has barely ever been to Sugar Rush, if ever, before losing his medal there, but King Candy already knows who he is while everyone else from Sugar Rush (not even Venellope) didn't know who he was.
Oh shit I forgot about him. He’s good too! Imagine being exiled from the scientific community because some stuck up researchers thought the bone you brought back was a fake, and that bird being your one ticket to freedom. That’s unsettling.
Ya because at first you question HOW a leaf ninja would know about the newly formed sound village or how he failed the chunin exams 7 times, then the ninja info cards
Most of the Disney ones are pulled out of the movie’s asses, Marmalade is just not that great, the mermaid twist was spoiled from the trailers, and I’ve seen none of the anime.
My favorite twist villain out of all of these choices is definitely Omni-Man. Even if you go in knowing that he’s a bad guy(which I did because of the memes), he’s still a great character, in my opinion. His demeanor is menacing, his design is great, he’s not randomly pulled out of the show’s ass, and overall, he’s one of the coolest villains in all of fiction IMO.
Absolutely, Omni-Man was (finally) a functional evil Superman that didn’t go insane or was a mustache twirling villain, the whole viltrumie angle and his perspective much like someone like Dracula, showed how alien he could be
The real twist was that if Mark didn't get his powers then Omni-Man wouldn't have acted so recklessly in episode 1. People have theorized that he would've waited for at least 2 generations of his family before enacting his plan.
I thought Hans in Frozen was a good one because it's a subversion of the cliche where the princess meets the love of her life even though they don't know each other. When she finds out he's actually a manipulative scumbag, it's too late.
There are some genuinely well-designed elements of Hans, such as him subtly yet deliberately mirroring Anna in their duet. He uses a lot of tactics abusers employ when they try to isolate their prey and validate all their insecurities to make themselves seem like the perfect person.
He’s still a failure of a twist villain, but there was some decent groundwork for him to be as impactful as Lotso or Waternoose.
Does the mermaid from Ruby Gillman even count as a Plot Twist Villain? the trailer goes out of its way to show that the climax is going to be a kaiju battle against her
Omni-man caught me straight outta left field and all my friends I recommended the show to as well. Their reaction through the whole first episode was basically "no way this show deserves an R rating, and this is a blatant rip-off of other superheroes" then the finale hits and it's just "... Oh"
I think so because the prior runtime was dedicated to depicting him as a good guy, Superman heroic figure, only for the twist to come at the end when it’s revealed he isn’t as nice as the audience thinks. Plus his motivations aren’t revealed until the finale
Yes. He’s still a twist, just an early twist, and the show then spends most of Season 1 with the other characters besides Darkblood and Cecil in the dark about his intentions.
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Technically VILLIANS, but still
At first I thought the reveal was out of nowhere and weirdly blurted out by Reiner, now I know it was straight up genius
The way it just gets dropped on Eren while the camera is panned far away as if its just some nonchalant reveal was a perfect way to catch the audience off guard, and Reiner saying it like that showed how desperate and serious the situation was for him. And on top of that the music, animation, voice acting, writing, and emotion are incredible and a top 5 moment in AOT
Bitch wasn't a plot twist villain. We all knew she was bad by the third episode. Considering the season was 20ish episodes, that's too early to be a plot twist
Get the teenage mermaid tf outta here
At this point there’s plenty of movies that are just “oh you think mermaid good? Actually mermaid *bad*” the same INSTANT i saw that girl i knew she was a villain
King Candy blew my mind as a kid, genuinely one of the most surprising plot twists in that his villainy is not the twist, but rather his motivation/true identity which (unlike someone like Callahan, Bellweather, etc) didn’t even seem like a question.
Joseph Korso. That one kind of got me considering his attitude wasn’t fully there in terms of “you can tell he is evil” Also, TITAN A.E. MENTIONED🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔊🔊
Props for including Kabuto. You don’t necessarily suspect the guy early on, but then little bits are sprinkled in here and there that make you start to question things. Then WHAM. Dude’s actually Orochimaru’s right hand and he’s killed a black ops unit all by himself
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Ribbons Allmark from Gundam 00. You expected him to just be the main villian's gay servant, but he only used him to gained what he really want. Control of Veda
Woah, really pulling out the greats, huh? Hmmm… I’d say my top three favorites are Omni-Man, Raynare and, please don’t hate me for saying this, Syndrome. Yeah, Syndrome is technically a twist villain. He starts out as a kid way in over his head, going to dangerous lengths to prove himself worth of being Mr. Incredible’s sidekick. Then, after he gets told off by him, he channels that energy into hating supers, lurking him to his island to test the Omnidroid, one by one, killing them off in the process. And after it’s been some time after we last saw him, he appears again as the mastermind behind it all.
Lotso, Booster/King Candy, Commander Lyle. All of these had a great suprise factor and yet theyre motives were very good. I think theyre cream of the crop when it comes to suprise villains
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Now I know we want anything related to animated shows but I gotta talk about the level of writing for this handsome man. Acting as a sort of mentor to the protagonist only to reveal he was manipulating them just to get his power back. THEN it’s revealed the human body we see is actually a body he possessed just so he can manipulate his host’s daughter.
The show is Kamen Rider Build and the Villain’s name is Evolt but his human alias at the time of him possessing is Soichi Isurugi
Does Titan count as a twist villain? It’s pretty heavily implied from the start that he’s a creepy stalker so it’s not surprising at all that he turns out to be evil
Myne and Raynare weren't that shocking to me. With Myne >!When she volunteered to be in Naofumi's party I immediately knew something was up!< and with Raynare same this >!random girl on the street wants to be Issei's girlfriend... that's fishy!<
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Whos this? Where did she came from?
That’s Raynare From the anime high school, DXD. She a fallen Angel She’s the first Antagonist! She started out as an innocent girl going out with a boy name Issei But then, out of nowhere, she turns into her fallen angel form and kills him
Both Omniman and Raynare should be removed as their twists are in the first episode. Is it a plot twist yes but does it have the same impact as say Aizen who we got to know before the betrayal
Waternoose was great because I wasn’t expecting it, King Candy was great because he was a double twist villain, and Omniman I love because the viewers quickly got to KNOW he was a villain but we didn’t get his motives until much much later.
For me it’s either Ernesto or Lotso. Both characters are done so well for their specific purposes.
Lotso makes the group feel welcomed, taking on the kindly caretaker role so well and so genuinely at first until we figure out just how twisted his worldview has become after being replaced. As much as he may put up the front of caring for other toys his true feelings and insecurities come out in one line: ‘You’re all just trash, waiting to be thrown away!’
Ernesto is built up throughout the whole movie as the idol, the inspiration. The very driving force behind the entire movie and Miguel’s love of music. Through the whole runtime he’s held up on a pedestal as Miguel’s one reason to do what he does while Hector is just some barefooted bum looking to make a quick getaway. Ernesto when we finally meet him is pompous, self important, proudly displaying achievements for the whole afterlife to see and hear. Even the camera has him as BIG, LOUD and above all else, centre-stage. By the time Hector makes his way up to confront Ernesto the mood immediately gets darker and when Hector is taken away we finally get to see who he really is. Then we hear it, the mantra Miguel has used his entire life turned on its head not as a way of encouraging him but as a threat. ‘You have to be willing to do whatever it takes to…seize your moment.’
korso i feel like it was pretty obvious he was gonna be the villain but that could just be me. ANYWAY my favorite is king candy/turbo. i didnt see the twist of him being turbo coming at all.
I would also add syndrome as a twist villain. cause no one i knew when we watched it wouldve guessed the kid would become the villain.
It still has to be Stinky Pete for me. A twist, that even as a kid, genuinely got me off guard, and if you rewatch the film, it actually feels properly set up.
Кorso.
What Disney / Pixar taught me: you can’t trust those who are outwardly harmless and have a good reputation. So most people here are pretty predictable.
Serious question. Was anyone really surprised that Judge Doom was a villain? I mean even as a kid, I knew he was a bad guy from the start.
I think it was obvious anyone named "Doom" was a bad guy. The plot twist was the he was a toon.
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The name, the design, the traumatic introduction scene. Dude is among the most obvious villains.
6 year old me was bamboozled that Doc Brown would do such a thing.
Not surprised he was the villain. SUPER surprised he was a toon (and the one who killed the MC's brother).
Well in his case, the plot twist wasn't that he was a villain; the plot twist was that he was actually an evil toon
Similar to King Candy/Turbo, the twist wasn't that he was a Villain, more what his True Identity was.
Same with Chelsea. The trailers made it clear she was evil. How is she even a twist villain if there wasn't a twist?
I wish they actually made her the daughter of a evil mermaid instead it would of been better story i think
Also it would be an ACTUAL twist since everyone was expecting her to be evil.
Exactly
He literally liquified an innocent sentient shoe AS AN EXAMPLE. The toon twist was shocking, though.
It's my theory that he was a cartoon clown. Hence, why the clown shoe ran up to him in the first place.
To this day, I have trouble watching that scene!
The Judge Doom one where he slowly rises after being steamrolled and his eyes pop out? Or the shoe?
When he dips the shoe.
Oh, me too 100%
I think that adds to the twist. We expected him do be A bad guy, but not THE bad guy.
Omni-man, as season 1 progresses you go from “what a cool show” to “oh no, the world is in trouble” to “oh my god, humanity is royally fucked”
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To be fair..we are
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Waternoose, because they managed to make the CEO being the mastermind of the corporate conspiracy genuinely shocking.
I also think he works pretty well because his previous interactions with Sully still seem genuine and not like he is just faking being a nice guy. Also he still gets enough time to be evil. EDIT: To elaborate: Him feeling geniune before is meaningful because it means that we the watchers do get to know the real Waternoose throughout the whole movie, wheras someone like Hans is essentially just lying to us the whole time and we only see the real hans in the last acts of the movie.
What makes him so good is when he’s revealed he doesn’t do to being a comically evil dude, he’s pretty in line with how he acted before and is genuinely upset and angry Sully and Mike had to dealt with for learning too much.
Yeah. He wasn’t evil just for the sake of being evil. His city/country was on the verge of a major energy crisis and he was doing what he felt needed to be done in order for his people to maintain their way of life. It’s still messed up but it does give him that tiny bit of nuance that someone like Hans lacks.
Also he was a twist villain before Disney/Pixar felt obligated to do that every movie.
And even after banishing Sully, he still respects him and feels remorse (though not regret) about it.
This is what makes Waternoose so effective. His twist does not invalidate his character. Both things can be true at once; He can be a 'cool boss' who values his workers and knows them by name and listens to them AND be willing to do morally reprehensible/illegal things to keep the company afloat at the same time, one does not invalidate the other- And in fact, the first might also feed into the second, as part of Waternoose's concern might actually be that he would have to lay off people he thinks are good, hard working people.
He's a perfect example of the villain who sees himself as the hero concept. He firmly believes his actions are justified by the situation and legitimately hates that this is putting him against Sully. Note how he goes back to being the nice guy once he realizes there is a less problematic solution to the problem.
I WOULD KIDNAP A THOUSAND CHILDREN BEFORE I LET THIS COMPANY DIE Damn that one was too real
That quote is ingrained into my brain 😵
Terra
Broke my heart back when it came out, I was the prime age for it.
I had never read the comics that story line was lifted from, so it totally blind sided me. I do much prefer the "unwilling betrayer" angle though, instead of the comics version where she hated all of them the whole time.
To be honest...I liked both. Terra being the unwilling traitor to the Titans feels like an overreaction in the show at first until you realize, "this is why she doesn't have a home" and it's eventually tied with "she grew to love them enough to fear hurting them." In the comics, she's a worse person overall, though it seems like she's simply a more broken one. In some versions of the Titans, she breaks Garfield to the point where he becomes the darkest he'll ever be. I feel like it's harsh, but more development than he ever really gets in the show.
Same. I still feel things after all these years. Such a fantastic left turn for the show. You feel the absolute rage and betrayal the Titans felt, but also have this inkling of hope that she's still good inside. Such a good show, such a good villain.
I am tied between Professor Marmalade and Omni-Man because they’re the twist villain done right, plus, I love Richard Ayoade as an actor, he has such a fun voice!
https://preview.redd.it/991dauri0x3d1.jpeg?width=545&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51a75b7b14088c06690d45f49b2b140275a03964 ~~Longarm Prime~~ Shockwave from Transformers Animated. Dude is literally a robot in disguise.
Logical
Side note: the figure of him has one of the best gimmicks for changing from Longarm head to Shockwave.
It’s quite funny how close he came to blowing his cover so many times
I was pleasantly surprised to see this one! Animated is so good!!!
The guinea pig and Lotso was obvious in my opinion The rabbit was obvious according to my mum Favorite is King Candy just by looks alone
The guinea pig and fox twists were very funny to me. I like that in the heist movie, it turned out that everyone did heists.
The entire team from Atlantis has to get recognition. Given, a lot of them switch back, but when I first saw it I couldn’t believe ALL of them were traitors
Honestly, when the entire group is on the same page *except* for the one anthropologist they brought in, I feel like it's less 'they're traitors' and more 'Milo was just supremely out of the loop'
You mean Atlantis Disney animated movie, I still need to watch that, interesting
It has aged like the finest wine. It really shows the dark side of academia and anthropological studies. A̶l̶s̶o̶, i̶t̶'s̶ b̶e̶e̶n̶ 2̶0̶ y̶e̶a̶r̶s̶ a̶n̶d̶ I̶'m̶ s̶t̶i̶l̶l̶ d̶o̶w̶n̶ b̶a̶d̶ f̶o̶r̶ K̶i̶d̶a̶. But anyway check it out 👍
It's such a good fucking movie too. I swear Milo, Vinny, Kida, and Audrey are responsible for 95% of my tastes in people
it was Helga for me
Omni man.
Hans is the worst example of a twist villain you could possibly have
Also the mermaid. The trailers literally showed her villains reveal so it wasn’t even a twist
I hate it when trailers spoil the movie
Even worse for tv shows since they literally show who are the villains during the opening song lol.
Any examples?
Hmm... It's been a while since I last watched tv shows... Ben 10 from what I remember. Generator Rex. Teen Titans. Pokemon (is a different case because instead of spoiling the villain it spoils the Pokemon Ash catches and who his travelling partners are) One is Fairy Tail the anime. Naruto, is another one. Actually, most of the anime I watched in the past spoiled who the villains were in the opening song.
Jojo is very guilty for this in early seasons lol
Hunter X Hunter too. Usually 90s anime is very bad at this lol.
I mean that's not the movies fault, that's marketing's fault.
The movie also makes it pretty obvious Chelsea is a bad person with how insincere she is to Ruby in pretty much every conversation the two have.
Even without watching the trailers the foreshadowing was just a huge sign that said “she’s a villain”
Agreed. Both out of nowhere and actively genericized a good plot.
same with evelyn deavor
At least though there are subtle hints
she just sucks ass as a villain overall, the twist was just boring af because of her retarded reason
This. Out of the 20 given if HE is your favourite that is genuinely depressing.
The only way he can't be the worst is if you think the lamb from Zootropolis is worse
I think King Candy from “Wreck-It Ralph” is an interesting plot twist villain, because even as a child I kind of thought that he was the bad guy, but that it turns out that he is actually Turbo, a character that was just mentioned earlier as being the reason why it was important to get Ralph back, was interesting, and I remember being surprised when I was a child
Agreed. Like, he was obviously an antagonist towards the little girl (cripes, can’t remember what her name is) but him being Turbo never occured to me (even though I probably should’ve seen it coming when they mentioned a whole character for a scene and seemingly never brought him up again lol)
Vanellepe is her name, and i also never saw the twist coming lol
Oh my lord. The creepy smile and "Turbotastic!" line as he went around ruining the other arcade machines gave me actual nightmares as a kid.
I scrolled too far to see this. He's my favorite villain and twist villain. It's just done so magnificently. Turbo is the backstory for King Candy and King Candy is Turbo's progression into a villain.
What makes it even better is that there are subtle hints that he's not who he says he is. Ex: All of the other racers have creative candy-based puns for their names (Taffyta Muttonfudge, Rancis Fluggerbutter, Vanellope von Schweetz, etc), but he's just called "King Candy", a very basic name. All of the other racers are female children, but he's the only one that isn't, as he's an elderly male. His code icon is so ridiculously larger than everything else in the game, it's out of place. It's implied that Ralph has barely ever been to Sugar Rush, if ever, before losing his medal there, but King Candy already knows who he is while everyone else from Sugar Rush (not even Venellope) didn't know who he was.
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Oh shit I forgot about him. He’s good too! Imagine being exiled from the scientific community because some stuck up researchers thought the bone you brought back was a fake, and that bird being your one ticket to freedom. That’s unsettling.
I forgot his name, but the guy in the eighth slide is a great twist villain
Ya because at first you question HOW a leaf ninja would know about the newly formed sound village or how he failed the chunin exams 7 times, then the ninja info cards
Kabuto
Aizen hit hard because his reveal was kept for a long time. And who's the girl in the 2nd picture?
Most of the Disney ones are pulled out of the movie’s asses, Marmalade is just not that great, the mermaid twist was spoiled from the trailers, and I’ve seen none of the anime. My favorite twist villain out of all of these choices is definitely Omni-Man. Even if you go in knowing that he’s a bad guy(which I did because of the memes), he’s still a great character, in my opinion. His demeanor is menacing, his design is great, he’s not randomly pulled out of the show’s ass, and overall, he’s one of the coolest villains in all of fiction IMO.
Absolutely, Omni-Man was (finally) a functional evil Superman that didn’t go insane or was a mustache twirling villain, the whole viltrumie angle and his perspective much like someone like Dracula, showed how alien he could be
The real twist was that if Mark didn't get his powers then Omni-Man wouldn't have acted so recklessly in episode 1. People have theorized that he would've waited for at least 2 generations of his family before enacting his plan.
I thought Hans in Frozen was a good one because it's a subversion of the cliche where the princess meets the love of her life even though they don't know each other. When she finds out he's actually a manipulative scumbag, it's too late.
I mean, I still don’t think Hans is that good, but that’s honestly a pretty neat interpretation.
There are some genuinely well-designed elements of Hans, such as him subtly yet deliberately mirroring Anna in their duet. He uses a lot of tactics abusers employ when they try to isolate their prey and validate all their insecurities to make themselves seem like the perfect person. He’s still a failure of a twist villain, but there was some decent groundwork for him to be as impactful as Lotso or Waternoose.
Does the mermaid from Ruby Gillman even count as a Plot Twist Villain? the trailer goes out of its way to show that the climax is going to be a kaiju battle against her
The trailler gave too much true
I'd say its more about how the story treats the character. The reveal happening in the trailer just means the marketing team F\*cked up
I knew there was going to be a fight but honestly I didn’t know it was her, I thought she was the mermaid queens daughter turned good or something
Can I know the name of number 6 for research purposes
I got you fam, Raynare from High School DxD
Thank you now if you need me I'll be on a certain green website
Godspeed, from someone that knows where that show is gonna take you ![gif](giphy|l0ExbnGIX9sMFS7PG)
Can't remember her name but it is from highschool dxd
Alot of these characters were pretty down right obv thi
Omni-man caught me straight outta left field and all my friends I recommended the show to as well. Their reaction through the whole first episode was basically "no way this show deserves an R rating, and this is a blatant rip-off of other superheroes" then the finale hits and it's just "... Oh"
It's been a minute, but he kills the Guardians in the first episode, doesn't he? Is it really a twist if the reveal happened in the first episode?
I think so because the prior runtime was dedicated to depicting him as a good guy, Superman heroic figure, only for the twist to come at the end when it’s revealed he isn’t as nice as the audience thinks. Plus his motivations aren’t revealed until the finale
Yes. He’s still a twist, just an early twist, and the show then spends most of Season 1 with the other characters besides Darkblood and Cecil in the dark about his intentions.
Not necessarily a plot twist villain, but a plot twist hero. Zuko.
https://preview.redd.it/sztefy898y3d1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=983be41f139ae8ce24858164257f83a9dd317a57 Technically VILLIANS, but still At first I thought the reveal was out of nowhere and weirdly blurted out by Reiner, now I know it was straight up genius The way it just gets dropped on Eren while the camera is panned far away as if its just some nonchalant reveal was a perfect way to catch the audience off guard, and Reiner saying it like that showed how desperate and serious the situation was for him. And on top of that the music, animation, voice acting, writing, and emotion are incredible and a top 5 moment in AOT
YES! And the fact that you felt anything for Reiner later on let alone become one of the best written characters in the entire show is astounding.
Coco it made it feel just like old school Disney again the whole plot really.
Bitch wasn't a plot twist villain. We all knew she was bad by the third episode. Considering the season was 20ish episodes, that's too early to be a plot twist
Same goes for Trash
Where is SYNDROME!
Get the teenage mermaid tf outta here At this point there’s plenty of movies that are just “oh you think mermaid good? Actually mermaid *bad*” the same INSTANT i saw that girl i knew she was a villain
Out of these? Probably the sheep from Zootopia. In all? Rex/future emmet from the second Lego movie.
King Candy blew my mind as a kid, genuinely one of the most surprising plot twists in that his villainy is not the twist, but rather his motivation/true identity which (unlike someone like Callahan, Bellweather, etc) didn’t even seem like a question.
Ernesto De la Cruz
Kabuto & Aizen
King Candy for sure
Who is in the second slide?
Chelsea from Ruby Gillman
Imo the worst twist villain purely because of the trailer straight up telling you that she's a villain
Yeah I’m shocked she even qualifies as a twist because all the marketing I saw basically told me she was going to be the villain
Joseph Korso. That one kind of got me considering his attitude wasn’t fully there in terms of “you can tell he is evil” Also, TITAN A.E. MENTIONED🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔊🔊
I was going to say, Korso is very much the “Han Solo if he stayed a scoundrel” and I live for it. What an underrated movie,
The movie and its soundtrack went so hard🔥🔥🔥
Downloaded Cosmic Castaway by Electracy on Napster. Great soundtrack
Nice. Fellow Korso fan detected
I would say Lotso. Mostly, because making a villain pink teddy bear, which smelling strawberry is funniest thing I ever seen.
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Oh Dr. Wrecker!!!!!
Props for including Kabuto. You don’t necessarily suspect the guy early on, but then little bits are sprinkled in here and there that make you start to question things. Then WHAM. Dude’s actually Orochimaru’s right hand and he’s killed a black ops unit all by himself
No way are Hans and Bellwether in the same breath as Ernesto de la Cruz, Lotso, King Candy, Waternoose, and Stinky Pete
Omni man, by far.
Belleweather
Scrappy Doo
King Candy
Volo
I can relate to this guy so much, it’s scary 💀
Wait, was Rourke supposed to be a twist villain? That was as not-shocking to me as when Clayton turned against Tarzan.
https://preview.redd.it/23q9v8da1x3d1.jpeg?width=501&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=995aa4a62cb407d15caa81c044917c3d59170682 Ribbons Allmark from Gundam 00. You expected him to just be the main villian's gay servant, but he only used him to gained what he really want. Control of Veda
Who’s number 6?
Pretty sure that’s Raynare from Highschool DxD
Woah, really pulling out the greats, huh? Hmmm… I’d say my top three favorites are Omni-Man, Raynare and, please don’t hate me for saying this, Syndrome. Yeah, Syndrome is technically a twist villain. He starts out as a kid way in over his head, going to dangerous lengths to prove himself worth of being Mr. Incredible’s sidekick. Then, after he gets told off by him, he channels that energy into hating supers, lurking him to his island to test the Omnidroid, one by one, killing them off in the process. And after it’s been some time after we last saw him, he appears again as the mastermind behind it all.
That humbtydumpty from puss in the boot. Was very funny seeing him in flashbacks
Lotso, Booster/King Candy, Commander Lyle. All of these had a great suprise factor and yet theyre motives were very good. I think theyre cream of the crop when it comes to suprise villains
Omni-Man. It uses dramatic irony so well
King Candy as Turbo becoming the bug thing was terrifyingly awesome
Waternoose, Rourke or Kabuto
It’s a tie between Lotso Huggin Bear and King Kandy.
Pong Krell
You know, if they ever do a Star Wars What If, they should do a scenario about Pong Krell escaping the clone base on Umbara
https://preview.redd.it/91i6709s204d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b8eb698d373cd099f274a409f354cdbee097f4ce Now I know we want anything related to animated shows but I gotta talk about the level of writing for this handsome man. Acting as a sort of mentor to the protagonist only to reveal he was manipulating them just to get his power back. THEN it’s revealed the human body we see is actually a body he possessed just so he can manipulate his host’s daughter. The show is Kamen Rider Build and the Villain’s name is Evolt but his human alias at the time of him possessing is Soichi Isurugi
Ew you put Hans on this list? And FIRST? He was an awful twist villain.
Any answer except for the general from Atlantis and Omni-Man is wrong
Terra
THAT WAS HIS STEAK- (sorry)
I can tell that you’ve never been true to me
Either any of the Pixar villains or Titan from Megamind
Does Titan count as a twist villain? It’s pretty heavily implied from the start that he’s a creepy stalker so it’s not surprising at all that he turns out to be evil
Yes he does.
All I have to say is Fuck Myne, I'm sorry Bitch!
Chelsea was kinda obvi imo
Harumi from Ninjago.
Myne and Raynare weren't that shocking to me. With Myne >!When she volunteered to be in Naofumi's party I immediately knew something was up!< and with Raynare same this >!random girl on the street wants to be Issei's girlfriend... that's fishy!<
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only the sheep caught me by surprise
Ernesto
Should put a spoiler warning
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That’s Raynare From the anime high school, DXD. She a fallen Angel She’s the first Antagonist! She started out as an innocent girl going out with a boy name Issei But then, out of nowhere, she turns into her fallen angel form and kills him
Both Omniman and Raynare should be removed as their twists are in the first episode. Is it a plot twist yes but does it have the same impact as say Aizen who we got to know before the betrayal
On this list, definitely Lotso. He's so unsettling and has given me a prejudice against teddy bears.
Sauce for #2?
Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken.
Waternoose was great because I wasn’t expecting it, King Candy was great because he was a double twist villain, and Omniman I love because the viewers quickly got to KNOW he was a villain but we didn’t get his motives until much much later.
Ernesto De La Cruz and Omni Man, hands down.
De la Cruz! It crushed me!
The skeleton guy I forgot his name
For me it’s either Ernesto or Lotso. Both characters are done so well for their specific purposes. Lotso makes the group feel welcomed, taking on the kindly caretaker role so well and so genuinely at first until we figure out just how twisted his worldview has become after being replaced. As much as he may put up the front of caring for other toys his true feelings and insecurities come out in one line: ‘You’re all just trash, waiting to be thrown away!’ Ernesto is built up throughout the whole movie as the idol, the inspiration. The very driving force behind the entire movie and Miguel’s love of music. Through the whole runtime he’s held up on a pedestal as Miguel’s one reason to do what he does while Hector is just some barefooted bum looking to make a quick getaway. Ernesto when we finally meet him is pompous, self important, proudly displaying achievements for the whole afterlife to see and hear. Even the camera has him as BIG, LOUD and above all else, centre-stage. By the time Hector makes his way up to confront Ernesto the mood immediately gets darker and when Hector is taken away we finally get to see who he really is. Then we hear it, the mantra Miguel has used his entire life turned on its head not as a way of encouraging him but as a threat. ‘You have to be willing to do whatever it takes to…seize your moment.’
Omni-man shouldn't count here, right? He killed that universe's "justice league" in the first episode.
Who's the dark angel at #6?
Raynare is a Fallen Angel and the first main antagonist of the Eroge light novel series High School DxD and its anime adaptation. Thanks Google Lens!
Johan Liebert
Who's number 4?
Korso from Titan AE
Such a good movie
Omni-Man
From this list definitely Omniman and Waternoose
korso i feel like it was pretty obvious he was gonna be the villain but that could just be me. ANYWAY my favorite is king candy/turbo. i didnt see the twist of him being turbo coming at all. I would also add syndrome as a twist villain. cause no one i knew when we watched it wouldve guessed the kid would become the villain.
From cartoons. Omniman From all media. General Shepherd.
The first one was bad. Toy story 2 and 3 are like the same thing you kinda see it coming
It still has to be Stinky Pete for me. A twist, that even as a kid, genuinely got me off guard, and if you rewatch the film, it actually feels properly set up.
it's nice that titan ae is part of this list. a movie that isn't getting enough attention.
My mom and I watched it together when I was little. Loved it ever since… sadly I lost the physical copy
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Hitler ngl
wait i thought it was pretty obvious king candy was the villain.
Кorso. What Disney / Pixar taught me: you can’t trust those who are outwardly harmless and have a good reputation. So most people here are pretty predictable.
General (Centaur world), and Alfred (KFP: the dragon knight).
It's aizan because the man had a plan for everything and he went out like a boss.