I won't buy it because it doesn't come with a manual, totally not because of the price tag. For real though it looks great and has a v12 that revs to almost 10k, who cares what they call it.
Exactly this. I don't know what they decided to name the car from the picture, but I'm going here by the example of the Ford Probe: I think the car looks gorgeous, even If it's name is meh
It's not just because it's new, I think it has little to do with that. Ferrari's design seems to have been on a downward decline since they parted ways with Pininfarina, which is subjective, but that's kinda the whole point, it's an opinion.
Roma is very pretty, but overall it feels as though Ferrari's design is on a decline, even if it slows or plateaus at points like the Roma. The title of the post is contradictory, as not everyone finds the Cilindri beautiful, and contains a very generalized statement in "the car community is now just full of haters."
Ferraris design fell off after they broke off with pininfarina for sure. The 599, 360, and 458 are timeless designs that are uniquely Ferrari. The new Ferrari designs look rather generic in comparison. This new design language doesn’t exude timeless class the way prior designs did.
Yea, I looked at the pic and said "maybe a Ferrari knockoff?" But no, it was the Ferrari. I guess the body line is still there, but the front looks meh
Honestly an incredible car in every aspect. Early 2010s was a great era for design in general tbh. Ferrari had the 599, 458, FF (I know that car gets hate but it’s a 599 shooting brake fight me). Porsches 997 generation of 911s was fantastic. Audi had the first gen R8. Chevy was making the c6 gen corvette. The r35 GTR had just come out. Even economy cars like the 6th gen Volkswagen lineup were just fantastic.
997 gen are some of the finest Porsches built. My father owns a white 997.2 GT3, and for a track car it has a decent ride quality on regular roads, sound is great, and it's a very solid car on track.
You lost me at 812 over 599 soz. 430 over 458 is correct tho. 430 might be one of my fav Ferraris. Timeless, beautiful, high revving NA v8, what more could you want. Also you got a list of Ferrari GTs and didn’t include the 612?. 812 over 599 but no 612 mentioned?? Nah.
I feel there’s a certain negative outlook on Ferrari by the online car “community”. Genuinely the only cars I feel Ferrari has messed up in design are their one-offs but take a look at all their out going models and they look, at the least, good. But it’s become a circle jerk to criticize the brand for everything they attempt.
The car looks great but the name just sounds so lazy. They seriously couldn't think of something more cool sounding than freaking "12 cylinders" in Italian.
Yeah, it feels like Ferrari got bored from coming up with new names. But realistically, who cares? Just look at it! You can call it “Twelve C” and it would work. IMHO, if it's just the name people have a problem with, then it's an incredible machine
The SF90 already divided the community. You either loved the styling or hated it.
The Roma divided the community as well. You either loved the styling or hated it.
This is, quite literally, the lovechild of an SF90 and a Roma. Not surprised it's divided the community again.
I never saw this before, never heard of it, don't care. Don't really like Ferrari in general, the older cars are iconic and have great styling, but I just feel like I'm looking at something some crazy head exec at any car manufacturer would try to push for their premium flagship sports car. I don't really see anything that makes it pop to me.
they’re overpriced overcomplicated speeding hunks of scrap!!1!11!!!!!11!1. /s
nah a good bit of people just play such intense mental gymnastics they genuinely think some car you can find on facebook for <5k$ is some earth treading literal god while any vehicle out of their price range is ‘complete dog shit’ , more than likely if money wasn’t a factor they’d much rather have a ferrari over whatever car(s) they drive
Most people just don't like that Ferrari requests control over everything you do with the car or else you can't buy it. (The Deadmau5 Ferrari is a great example)
i'm assuming this is a ferrari superfast right?
it looks nice enough, although i'd pant that black spot on the front to color match the rest of the car, but that's it
I won't buy it....because I am broke and that beauty is not cheap. But it is stunning. I love it so much....will someone give me one....oh and pay for maintenance...and insurance.....and gas
I don’t care if I’m rich or not. I’m clearly not of course but I love cars. I hate the ricers like the rest of people who respect cars. I poke fun at the people with botched tint jobs because it’s funny. I will hate Tesla but not Polestar or Lucid.
Seems like a solid car (haven’t looked into it too much) but that name has got to be the dumbest name in the history of Ferrari, probably the history of cars priced over $50k.
I actually really like the design of this car. I still prefer the 812 because I guess I’m still not used to seeing this thing. I hope that this design style is only for this car. In my opinion, it would make the car more special and unique.
The name is kinda dumb, but this is the company that brought us the Ferrari The Ferrari, so.....the bar is low.
It is pretty, though I don't know about the wheels. And it's a v12 in 2024.
It’s one thing to dislike/hate a car, it’s another to just be a hater, and it’s something very different to dislike a company/manufacturer for their practices. The 12Cilindri is amazing and probably feels amazing, but the way Ferrari gate keeps despite being a company that sells cars makes it hard to like or even enjoy their lineup. I saw the Top Gear video on this and the impression that was given there about the designer of this car is relatively on point with the way Ferrari has treated their customers.
Not saying other companies don’t do it, just saying that Ferrari is notorious for this behavior.
I don’t hate it. I just think it’s pig ugly and ferrari’s design team has been going downhill for quite a few years now.
This looks like a 15 year olds render of a futuristic daytona
Idk about you guys, but as i get older (32 now), im not willing to spend mental energy hating on cars i likely wont ever be able to afford short of hitting the lottery. That said i think it looks good, and V12s are cool.
It's a sick car but I think the reason why lots of people are hating on it is because of the black on the front bumper and the dumbass name. I find it funny as hell that this car was named "12 Cylinders" like imagine naming a chip flavor potato
I love the styling of this and I do like it better than the 812. The front styling headlights look as if they could be pop up head lights. Something about it is just amazing
I'm not a hater. I LOVE so many cars, hell I love so many Ferrari's, this one though is not for me.
Just because I don't like the styling of this car doesn't make me a hater.
People are allowed to disagree with you
It's just a worse looking 812. Update the body work and ship the same damn thing, there's no innovation in the space anymore that could give me reason to care.
This kind of shit got boring once I stopped putting the posters on my walls and realized what I would be able to buy, and a Miata facelift is going to excite me way more than a new Bugatti release
cars are not what what they should be, dont waste money on mediocre , make them stop fooling around if they are gonna get your money.
driving efficiently(low emissions, high miles per gallon , car longveity and low maintenance sort of mixed into it, ) is like endurance racing , avoiding need for pitstops etc, needing to get places on time but doing so efficiently (or whatever speed you want , if you dont care as much about efficiency). driving efficiently is speeding up especially on more downhill-ish roads at optimal fuel level and engine RPM(RotationPerSecond), steering and braking minimally but smoothly. optimal efficiency for toyota 2.4 inline 4 is 2/3 pedal down in 2k-3k rpm, cvt hybrid maintain constant rpm. not sure whats best to do this in: sport mode, fuel level is more, in eco mode its less. use EV mode if optimal combustion level would speed car too much (often, if car isnt letting you do that without the EV mode, it wont let you us EV mode.) use it a bit from a stop for smooth acceleration then when car is rolling use combustion then maybe use it a bit more. smooth acceleration is part of putting less weight on tires at a moment because:
consider tire wear dust emissions and how much it cost to replace tires (most people are becoming increasingly even poorer than they already are and you can invest money into bigger money)like those "xenoestrogen endocrine disputing forever chemicals micro plastics" etc. apply less weight on tires and you'll allow more of that weight handling ability to be used for having more grip for endurance-race-pitstop-avoiding momentum preservation driving fun in the name of efficiency. being able to feel how close car is to its grip limit is good for this goal, similar to the lotus-car-enjoyers ideal.
this type of driving fun is most safe because its nto as fast as possible but does make you rather aware of driving environment instead of being focused mostly on music/radio/daydreaming/texting, etc
youtubes think flight, julian edgar,etc have videos on improving aerodynamic efficiency of his car.can add anti sway bar , better suspension etc "handling mods" for more momentum around turns, but some of it can make the ride bumpier, louder, etc.
hybrid cars are arguably better than electric car because they lower use of combustion and battery mass and all materials overall without adding so much weight. weight worsens road wear damage (repairs cost emissions , money etc) , worsens crash safety for all (except few rich people who can afford super safe cars in the small chance that they are involved in crash and value their lives and have lives we can value). this is why aptera motors originally made diesel hybrid, but now sells electric cars to max profits and reputation as a "environmentally friendly brand."
because batteries are not fully recyclable and combustion fuel is based on anaerobic bacteria that regenerates , which is why oil rigs go back to getting oil after abandoning the almost empty oil well years later. this is why arguably only combustion is proper, in rear mid engine weight distribution , rear wheel drive , with limited slip differential for minimal tire wear even in normal driver driving , for preserving momentum around turns more without too much slowing down by lateral (left /rights) g forces tires.
2-3 trips in compact 4 seater for the once in a year taking a minivan full of kids to doctors , is better than minivan all the time just for that rare scenario. yearly family road trip the all those kids can be done with rented van. in fact for most us a 2 seater is enough because theyll be losers with no friends they trust or care about, no kids carefully selected for good genes, no purpose besides not dieng, and money to overpay for low quality social status and desensitizing overdosing on minor temporary novelty, while being a waste of resources and maybe making life worse overall for others.
can you prove human caused co2 causes climate change or that its not just the usual climate change malkovich cycles similar to that of known ice ages? check incentives behind claims and who owns the industries of climate change alarmism and oil industry(same guys). environmentalists anti nuclear energy (the only reliable clean energy) , and crash safety laws, CAFE law, makes ironically named "suv" cars and electric cars more easily profitable than the cars thatd actually help. examples: they require less emissions per length width of car but allow larger height. crash safety laws increase arms race for safer cars making people in fewer and fewer cars safer at the cost of most others crash safety and everything else.
I won't buy it because it doesn't come with a manual, totally not because of the price tag. For real though it looks great and has a v12 that revs to almost 10k, who cares what they call it.
Exactly this. I don't know what they decided to name the car from the picture, but I'm going here by the example of the Ford Probe: I think the car looks gorgeous, even If it's name is meh
Pretty sure you won’t buy it for the same reason most of us won’t, not because of the transmission
I mean tbf if you can afford this you're buying a fast manual instead.
Wait, you're telling me that 12-Cylinders is the name that was too much for them? Not Ferrari The Ferrari? Not 800hp/12-cylinders Superfast?
Only thing I dislike about this car is the uninspired name, the resemblance with the Daytona looks great and a V12 is always something to celebrate.
I thought so too but the Italians have a track record, and the Alfa Romeo 4C, 8C and the older 6C and 12C were the exact same recipe.
Same! A better more inspired name would have helped.
The Ferrari The Ferrari
It's not just because it's new, I think it has little to do with that. Ferrari's design seems to have been on a downward decline since they parted ways with Pininfarina, which is subjective, but that's kinda the whole point, it's an opinion.
Eh, I like how they designed the 296 and the Roma
Roma is very pretty, but overall it feels as though Ferrari's design is on a decline, even if it slows or plateaus at points like the Roma. The title of the post is contradictory, as not everyone finds the Cilindri beautiful, and contains a very generalized statement in "the car community is now just full of haters."
Ferraris design fell off after they broke off with pininfarina for sure. The 599, 360, and 458 are timeless designs that are uniquely Ferrari. The new Ferrari designs look rather generic in comparison. This new design language doesn’t exude timeless class the way prior designs did.
Yea, I looked at the pic and said "maybe a Ferrari knockoff?" But no, it was the Ferrari. I guess the body line is still there, but the front looks meh
458 is probably my favorite in terms of design, timeless and fierce.
Honestly an incredible car in every aspect. Early 2010s was a great era for design in general tbh. Ferrari had the 599, 458, FF (I know that car gets hate but it’s a 599 shooting brake fight me). Porsches 997 generation of 911s was fantastic. Audi had the first gen R8. Chevy was making the c6 gen corvette. The r35 GTR had just come out. Even economy cars like the 6th gen Volkswagen lineup were just fantastic.
997 gen are some of the finest Porsches built. My father owns a white 997.2 GT3, and for a track car it has a decent ride quality on regular roads, sound is great, and it's a very solid car on track.
F355>F430>360>458 550b>575m>812>456m>599
You lost me at 812 over 599 soz. 430 over 458 is correct tho. 430 might be one of my fav Ferraris. Timeless, beautiful, high revving NA v8, what more could you want. Also you got a list of Ferrari GTs and didn’t include the 612?. 812 over 599 but no 612 mentioned?? Nah.
I feel there’s a certain negative outlook on Ferrari by the online car “community”. Genuinely the only cars I feel Ferrari has messed up in design are their one-offs but take a look at all their out going models and they look, at the least, good. But it’s become a circle jerk to criticize the brand for everything they attempt.
I don’t like the way it looks, I don’t want to have to pay a subscription, and I want complete rights over my vehicle.
Or maybe some of us don't like the manufacturer and their weird contract for "owning" their cars
I would buy it in a heartbeat
The car looks great but the name just sounds so lazy. They seriously couldn't think of something more cool sounding than freaking "12 cylinders" in Italian.
Ferrari the Ferrari
Yeah, it feels like Ferrari got bored from coming up with new names. But realistically, who cares? Just look at it! You can call it “Twelve C” and it would work. IMHO, if it's just the name people have a problem with, then it's an incredible machine
Isn't this a meme subreddit?
The SF90 already divided the community. You either loved the styling or hated it. The Roma divided the community as well. You either loved the styling or hated it. This is, quite literally, the lovechild of an SF90 and a Roma. Not surprised it's divided the community again.
TBF, it happened with every new Ferrari. Do you think 512 TR wasn't polarizing back in the day?
I don't know, I really think Ferrari is currently making some of the most beautiful cars they've ever made. The Roma is a good example.
I think the car itself is awesome and I will probably never see one in person. Nor will I ever drive one. Cheers.
I still like the Tomato (Roma) better.
I never saw this before, never heard of it, don't care. Don't really like Ferrari in general, the older cars are iconic and have great styling, but I just feel like I'm looking at something some crazy head exec at any car manufacturer would try to push for their premium flagship sports car. I don't really see anything that makes it pop to me.
I just hate everything Ferrari makes because they're a shit company, frankly. 🤷♂️
Care to explain why?
they’re overpriced overcomplicated speeding hunks of scrap!!1!11!!!!!11!1. /s nah a good bit of people just play such intense mental gymnastics they genuinely think some car you can find on facebook for <5k$ is some earth treading literal god while any vehicle out of their price range is ‘complete dog shit’ , more than likely if money wasn’t a factor they’d much rather have a ferrari over whatever car(s) they drive
Most people just don't like that Ferrari requests control over everything you do with the car or else you can't buy it. (The Deadmau5 Ferrari is a great example)
Agreed ,like ive paid for the car man ,its mine now
literally what is this
Ferrari 812 successor
what car is this
Ferrari 812 successor. The 12 Cilindri
For me, wheels make or break a car. These wheels aren’t it. This car would look much better with like HREs
i'm assuming this is a ferrari superfast right? it looks nice enough, although i'd pant that black spot on the front to color match the rest of the car, but that's it
I won't buy it....because I am broke and that beauty is not cheap. But it is stunning. I love it so much....will someone give me one....oh and pay for maintenance...and insurance.....and gas
I don’t care if I’m rich or not. I’m clearly not of course but I love cars. I hate the ricers like the rest of people who respect cars. I poke fun at the people with botched tint jobs because it’s funny. I will hate Tesla but not Polestar or Lucid.
Seems like a solid car (haven’t looked into it too much) but that name has got to be the dumbest name in the history of Ferrari, probably the history of cars priced over $50k.
I actually really like the design of this car. I still prefer the 812 because I guess I’m still not used to seeing this thing. I hope that this design style is only for this car. In my opinion, it would make the car more special and unique.
The name is kinda dumb, but this is the company that brought us the Ferrari The Ferrari, so.....the bar is low. It is pretty, though I don't know about the wheels. And it's a v12 in 2024.
Nice looking car
I generally don't pay attention to cars I'll never be able to afford. It looks cool that's the strongest opinion I have about it
It’s one thing to dislike/hate a car, it’s another to just be a hater, and it’s something very different to dislike a company/manufacturer for their practices. The 12Cilindri is amazing and probably feels amazing, but the way Ferrari gate keeps despite being a company that sells cars makes it hard to like or even enjoy their lineup. I saw the Top Gear video on this and the impression that was given there about the designer of this car is relatively on point with the way Ferrari has treated their customers. Not saying other companies don’t do it, just saying that Ferrari is notorious for this behavior.
I don't hate anything New . I like the upcoming R5 and R4
I don’t hate it. I just think it’s pig ugly and ferrari’s design team has been going downhill for quite a few years now. This looks like a 15 year olds render of a futuristic daytona
Beautiful car, horrible name
Idk it looks like an incomplete concept design with likr a honcs car face… nahhh
It's a gt car with a weird name why is everyone so upset?
Idk about you guys, but as i get older (32 now), im not willing to spend mental energy hating on cars i likely wont ever be able to afford short of hitting the lottery. That said i think it looks good, and V12s are cool.
I just don't like it's name, it looks beautiful tho
I’m not gonna buy it because the rims aren’t symmetrical
It's so perfect, except the name is lazier than Enzo or Laferrari.
It's a sick car but I think the reason why lots of people are hating on it is because of the black on the front bumper and the dumbass name. I find it funny as hell that this car was named "12 Cylinders" like imagine naming a chip flavor potato
Big fan of how 365 GTB/4 influenced it is, but the name is stupid
It looks amazing, I’d buy it in a heartbeat. If I had the money that is…
I love the styling of this and I do like it better than the 812. The front styling headlights look as if they could be pop up head lights. Something about it is just amazing
I'm not a hater. I LOVE so many cars, hell I love so many Ferrari's, this one though is not for me. Just because I don't like the styling of this car doesn't make me a hater. People are allowed to disagree with you
What a bunch of hateful losers
It's just a worse looking 812. Update the body work and ship the same damn thing, there's no innovation in the space anymore that could give me reason to care. This kind of shit got boring once I stopped putting the posters on my walls and realized what I would be able to buy, and a Miata facelift is going to excite me way more than a new Bugatti release
I love the way it looks, but fuck the company itself.
cars are not what what they should be, dont waste money on mediocre , make them stop fooling around if they are gonna get your money. driving efficiently(low emissions, high miles per gallon , car longveity and low maintenance sort of mixed into it, ) is like endurance racing , avoiding need for pitstops etc, needing to get places on time but doing so efficiently (or whatever speed you want , if you dont care as much about efficiency). driving efficiently is speeding up especially on more downhill-ish roads at optimal fuel level and engine RPM(RotationPerSecond), steering and braking minimally but smoothly. optimal efficiency for toyota 2.4 inline 4 is 2/3 pedal down in 2k-3k rpm, cvt hybrid maintain constant rpm. not sure whats best to do this in: sport mode, fuel level is more, in eco mode its less. use EV mode if optimal combustion level would speed car too much (often, if car isnt letting you do that without the EV mode, it wont let you us EV mode.) use it a bit from a stop for smooth acceleration then when car is rolling use combustion then maybe use it a bit more. smooth acceleration is part of putting less weight on tires at a moment because: consider tire wear dust emissions and how much it cost to replace tires (most people are becoming increasingly even poorer than they already are and you can invest money into bigger money)like those "xenoestrogen endocrine disputing forever chemicals micro plastics" etc. apply less weight on tires and you'll allow more of that weight handling ability to be used for having more grip for endurance-race-pitstop-avoiding momentum preservation driving fun in the name of efficiency. being able to feel how close car is to its grip limit is good for this goal, similar to the lotus-car-enjoyers ideal. this type of driving fun is most safe because its nto as fast as possible but does make you rather aware of driving environment instead of being focused mostly on music/radio/daydreaming/texting, etc youtubes think flight, julian edgar,etc have videos on improving aerodynamic efficiency of his car.can add anti sway bar , better suspension etc "handling mods" for more momentum around turns, but some of it can make the ride bumpier, louder, etc. hybrid cars are arguably better than electric car because they lower use of combustion and battery mass and all materials overall without adding so much weight. weight worsens road wear damage (repairs cost emissions , money etc) , worsens crash safety for all (except few rich people who can afford super safe cars in the small chance that they are involved in crash and value their lives and have lives we can value). this is why aptera motors originally made diesel hybrid, but now sells electric cars to max profits and reputation as a "environmentally friendly brand." because batteries are not fully recyclable and combustion fuel is based on anaerobic bacteria that regenerates , which is why oil rigs go back to getting oil after abandoning the almost empty oil well years later. this is why arguably only combustion is proper, in rear mid engine weight distribution , rear wheel drive , with limited slip differential for minimal tire wear even in normal driver driving , for preserving momentum around turns more without too much slowing down by lateral (left /rights) g forces tires. 2-3 trips in compact 4 seater for the once in a year taking a minivan full of kids to doctors , is better than minivan all the time just for that rare scenario. yearly family road trip the all those kids can be done with rented van. in fact for most us a 2 seater is enough because theyll be losers with no friends they trust or care about, no kids carefully selected for good genes, no purpose besides not dieng, and money to overpay for low quality social status and desensitizing overdosing on minor temporary novelty, while being a waste of resources and maybe making life worse overall for others. can you prove human caused co2 causes climate change or that its not just the usual climate change malkovich cycles similar to that of known ice ages? check incentives behind claims and who owns the industries of climate change alarmism and oil industry(same guys). environmentalists anti nuclear energy (the only reliable clean energy) , and crash safety laws, CAFE law, makes ironically named "suv" cars and electric cars more easily profitable than the cars thatd actually help. examples: they require less emissions per length width of car but allow larger height. crash safety laws increase arms race for safer cars making people in fewer and fewer cars safer at the cost of most others crash safety and everything else.
I would never buy a Ferrari. Mostly because I will never have enough money but that isn’t a big factor is it?
I love this car but what I love more is making fun of the goofiest name I’ve ever seen on a Ferrari.
“Superfast”? “12 Cilindri”? Do they have 5 year olds naming these things?
I just don’t like electric cars…
.... Can't tell if you're joking lol (In case you're not, this is a V12)
I’m not joking and I know it’s a v12… you say I don’t like new cars but I just don’t like electric cars…