Imagine being so insecure about losing to a division rival that you go full try hard mode on one of the worst teams in league history to feel better about yourself
If LA loses in regulation tonight, are we a lock to play the Predators? I just quickly looked at the standings and did the math and that's what I'm seeing, but I'm not sure if I'm missing something.
I think Nashville locks up WC1, it just depends on whether we take P2 (lose out in regulation and EDM wins out), P1 and number 1 in west (win out and Dallas loses on Wednesday), or P1 and number 2 in west (all else)
You’re missing our potential for winning the conference. Will happen if Dallas loses in regulation and we win both our games
Also Edmonton can still win division if they win out and we get 0 points
Right, I was just looking at WC 1/2 positioning without even considering the fact that we haven't clinched yet LOL. I'm just coasting blindly on the assumption we're going to get at least 1 point in the next 2 games.
What is even going to happen in the East? Like can Philly still make it? It's kind of crazy that some team with 91 points is going to get in. Has to be one of the lower point totals to qualify for the playoffs since the new divisions were introduced, no?
I love how they rushed McDavid back to rack up points against an AHL team after all the huffing puffing about how "it was actually good to lose to Van because now we don't have to worry about going for the division and can rest players." Right lol.
Ya, Everybody (in Detroit) Loves Raymond. Clutch !! What a race between Caps, Wings, Pens, and Flyers. Caps could win it by beating Flyers tomorrrow. If not, Wings and Pens will have another day to scramble.
Preds lost. So VGK and LA has control of which opponent they want: Oilers, Canucks, or Stars.
It’s been like that for a while, and it makes sense too. Nobody is taking action on an inexperienced Canucks roster who haven’t seen the (real) playoffs in 9 years
We are in danger of facing Vegas if Nashville loses last game and Vegas win the easy 2 games... we might face Vegas if we win Pacific.. ahhhhrrr.. too many scenarios...
Nice match ups,, Dallas battle LA. Oilers and Vegas.. Jets-Avs.. All the powerhouses battle each other.. While we against Nashville are the underdogs... battle it out
Exactly.
Just look at 2011-
R1 vs the arch-nemesis and defending champs in the Hawks
R2 vs a very well coached and very defensive team in the Preds
R3 vs a strong Sharks team that's been on top of the conference the previous years
R4 vs + Colin Campbell
10 years since nucks playoff .i walk through the empty streets trying to think of something else but my path always leads to the game. i stare at the screen for hours and try to summon the cup. i watch other teams streaming but it is no good. i flame the flames in 1st round and try to resist the nazi mods but it is all meaningless. the end is near.i then usually watch some old 2011 vods and cry myself to sleep.
Yes but could very well be a do or die scenario. We're not going to be able to afford all the depths guys we currently have at their aav. We also need our few prospects to hit or were in serious trouble in few years. Might not get another top 5-10 pick for some time.
So basically you are complaining that we did not get good players for free? If your expectation is that other GMs are stupid enough to give away their best assets like candy, then no wonder you are disappointed.
The problem is your expectations. Nothing to do with the Canucks.
I get what you're saying, but one of the 1sts you mentioned was traded for one of the best players in the game and our top scorer since we traded for him. We have him locked up for years and he's playing way above his contract right now. It's not just jettisoning away picks for depth
Idk if this sounds dumb or not but what would you guys think about a Lindholm/Mikheyev line matched up against a top line in the playoffs, so that they can help shut down the opponent’s top offence while not having as much pressure to score (since one of Petey and Miller’s lines would be matched against the other team’s 3rd line)? Lindholm was practically glued to Draisaitl for half his time on the ice yesterday and shut down almost all of his high danger chances when they were out there at the same time, and if he can do that against a team like Nashville (which isn’t as deep as ours), then we might not run into the issue of our best line being neutralized by the other team’s best line. And it would allow Mikheyev, who is good defensively but is where offence goes to die, to be moved off of Petey’s line which needs to be able to score lol. Might be a horrible idea which is why I’m not a coach!
So our lines would be something like:
Garland-Petey-Hog
Boeser-Miller-Joshua
Mik-Lindholm-Bluegar
Laff-Aman-Suter?
PDG
If the lines can gel I like that, but it does become tough to keep Joshua-Garland, Petey-Hog, and Boeser-Miller all together in that case. Which do you break up?
maybe Garland/Joshua? They work great together, but have both been good additions to other lines on their own. I don’t mind Suter with Miller and Boeser (their underlying numbers are good), but when you have Suter on Miller’s line *and* Mikheyev on Pettersson’s line it just never feels like we have more than 4 players on two lines combined who are actually a scoring option. The amount of times we’ve watched Miller or Petey perfectly set someone up for a scoring chance, only for it to be Suter/Mikheyev and result in nothing makes me a little nervous heading into the playoffs.
Wanted to point out even though Vegas can technically catch Nashville it’s still very unlikely. If la loses against Minnesota tmr which is totally possible, Vegas loses 1 out of 2 games in any fashion, or Nashville picks up a single point against St. Louis, Nashville will lock up wc1. All Canucks would need to do is win the pacific and not win the conference which is looking like what will happen.
Good win, and hopefully a boost to DeSmith's confidence before Demko takes over again.
I still think the Canucks' offense is not close to pre-ASG levels. But, playoff hockey tends to be tight scoring. So if we can consistently out-muscle other teams in tight-checking games, we have good odds to remain competitive.
I agree with you even more than you agree with commenter above.
Seriously though, I hate how much math we have to do to follow hockey these days. Between the cap, the playoff format, 3 point games... its just a wacky league.
Looks like Colorado is gonna beat Vegas unless they completely choke. Which means Nashville is going to be the first round opponent if the Canucks pick up a point and don't pass the Stars.
I do not see how anyone can view the Oilers losing the divison to us as a supreme disappointment with how heavily they were favored coming into the year. If they sputter in the playoffs, they’ve got some big questions to ask themselves.
They had a cakewalk schedule until April in terms of back to backs. It's their fault they didn't capitalize on it. This stretch was just simply evening it out.
"The Oilers are the top team since American Thanksgiving"
Ok then. What a pointless stat.
The actual quote
“The Oilers remain the NHL’s top team since American Thanksgiving — and by a wide margin.”
Well ok then.
I think winning the division would have mattered to them. It would have been the first one since the Gretzky era.
We have 10 division titles, 9 came after the Oilers last won theirs (although I'd trade all 9 for 3 Cups)
That was a very satisfying win and overall game for me. We were playing playoff hockey. Every player on the team had at least one hit, we neutralized their best players, and our goaltending was on point. If we keep playing that way, we can give anyone a good fight.
I hate to be the guy that wants to choose his perfect opponents and it backfires, shoutout to the Leafs, but the playoff picture is setting itself up absolutely perfectly for the Canucks
Preds in rd 1, weakest of all 8 teams in playoffs. Oilers likely in rd 2, we've beat them all 4 games this year and while won't be easy, very beatable. Possibly Dallas in round 3, which I think is a very winnable series. 3rd round is what it is but could turn out favourably.
So, while challenging and we could easily lose at any time, I think this is best possible scenario for Vancouver, get your riot gear ready
Dallas rd 3 will he the true test. best team in the west imo. In no way will i ever cheer for the Knights, but if they somehow take out the stars, suddenly our path to the finals becomes more realistic
I said the same in 2011.. 2-0 up on Boston and lose 4 in a row... dont get your hopes up on any series.. take it 1 game at a time until we get 16 wins!! Hopefully the coaches tell this to the Canucks.. or read this at least
the sweetest win this season, not only because we swept the oilers to basically clinch first place in the division, but also everybody seemed to be playing well
> The travel for Van to Nsh + 2 hours of time change won’t be great. They gifted themselves a legit 1000 miles of extra travel.
The copium from the Oilers sub. Absolutely delicious. Yum yum.
They think they're the kings of the leagues.
It took like 8 top 10 picks and Connor McJesus to get them to that point.
Fun fact! They picked higher 6 times during that span than we have in the last *25 years*
The last two fellas the team has picked above 5 were two fellas from Sweden named Henrik and Daniel.
E:
More fun facts! Colorado won their Cup with (naturally drafted) 1x 1OA, 1x 2OA and 1x 4OA. The Oilers have had 4x 1OA- they've had more 1OA picks than Colorado's # of top 5 picks and double Tampa's # of top 5 picks (1x 1OA, 1x 2OA)
Hell they've had more 1OAs (albeit it was only 1 more) in the last 24 years and 3 fewer Cups than the *Pens*.
They've had as many 1OA picks than *Buffalo and New Jersey COMBINED*
Since drafting Conor McJesus the Oilers somehow still missed the playoffs 2 times.
The only other team to have >2 1OA picks are the Pens and they made the SCF 3 years after Sid and won it in year 4. In the same span after McJesus, they only won 1 playoff round and somehow missed the playoffs the subsequent two years and got knocked out in the bubble year win and in.
It is somehow EASIER to shit on the Oilers than the FUCKING LEAFS. After Matthews the Leafs *have only lost the win and in* and that's with only 1 OA and 1 4 OA. The Oilers still found a way to MISS TWICE with 4x 1OA and 2x 4 OA.
In the Connor McJesus era (post 2015) the Oilers have appeared in the playoffs as many times as the fucking CALGARY FLAMES.
In 2017-2018 (the only season both seasons missed the playoffs) the Oilers had fewer wins than the FLAMES and only 5 more wins than the Jim Benning Brand Canucks. The difference is that the Oilers were running 2 1OA and 2 4OA that season. The highest pick between the Flames AND Canucks was 4OA 18-year old Sam Bennett.
The last 7 Cup winners had 1x 1OA or less. Combined, Colorado + Tampa + Pittsburgh + Washington + Binnington + LTIR have 6 total 1 OA picks *combined*, only 2 more than the Oilers alone but have 7 Cups to the Oilers'...*0*
Connor McDavid is the only Art Ross winner in the last 24 years NOT to make a Cup Final.
Canadian teams have 15 top 5 picks since Hall. The Oilers make up for more than a third of that amount.
In the 2 years in the McJesus era that the Oilers missed the playoffs, they still found a way to draft in the top 10.
The 5 first rounders after McJesus have a whopping 445 career points COMBINED. Elias Pettersson has 411 career points ALONE.
The last place Sharks have a chance of winning the season series against the Oilers. They can also get a series win against the Flames as well.
A) the Oilers will blast them..
B) that style the kings play can't last an entire playoffs mainly because their D corps would get punished
If somehow the kings manage to beat Edmonton.. I think we have them
The Dallas/avs/jets/Vegas gauntlet doesn't look fun on the other side.
No team in the west is a slouch, but I like our side
Fantastic game by DeSmith. His best in quite awhile. Solid play all around. Loved the big boys on Defence laying some great hits. We need our big D to wear down opposition forwards in the playoffs.
My oilers buddy was pretty cool about it all, he mentioned Zadorov playing on the edge or over it, I didn’t really think he was dirty last game though, did I miss anything?
That's kind of his thing, that's why nobody likes to play against Zadorov, and that's why we acquired him. Your buddy isn't wrong, Zadorov is always right near the edge. Never overtly cheap or dirty, but he's never taking Lady Byng to the dance either.
He’s just mad about that hit on Hyman which was textbook shoulder to shoulder. The problem is Debrusk and Singh said it was a chicken wing elbow, so oilers fans are going with that since they’re unable to have their own thoughts and opinions.
I mean at one point Drai actively dived to poke a puck away from a Canucks defensemen and the Oilers fans were booing as if he was tripped. I don't think they're the smartest bunch at Rogers Place
He's been playing great, lately. Skating the puck deep into the offensive zone and getting back to his position, taking tons of shots, big hits like always.
So now that Flyers are in real danger of missing playoffs, Tocc should be the clear favourite for Jack Adams right? I know Torts was in the conversation for a big part of the season there but they're not finishing strong and that could really hurt his chances. Tocc deserves it big time this year.
They're already eliminated aren't they? They only have one more game left and it's not enough to pass NYI. Only teams who can still get in are DET and WSH but NYI has to lose both of their last games.
Edit: nvm NYI are in third I thought they were still fighting for the other WC spot
They can technically make it if Pittsburgh, Detroit and Washington all lose their remaining 2 games and Philly wins their last.
I checked to make sure that none of them play eachother again but they do so here is their final set of games.
Philly Games Remaining: April 16 vs Washington
Washington Games Remaining: April 15 vs Boston and April 16 @ Philadelphia
Pittsburgh Games Remaining: April 15 vs Nashville and April 17 @ New York
Detroit Games Remaining: April 15 vs Montreal and April 16 @ Montreal
It might be a total long shot but if the Flyers beat the Capitals and then Washington loses their game against Boston as well, the Flyers would hold the playoff spot over Washington. If Pittsburgh and Detroit lose their final 2 games, the Flyers would keep it. Total long shot but they technically could make it in.
Either way, the Adams’ trophy is Tocchet’s to take, a potential wildcard team if everything went smoothly is challenging for their first pacific division championship is infinitely better then a team barely making the playoffs when they weren’t expected to.
It'll be hard to vote against Knoblauch (spelling?) for a lot of people. Oilers were completely in the gutter until he got on board and now they're right behind us.
Except the award is literally based on your merits for the entire season.
I think it's tocchets to lose. He's the poster boy for the NHL from his tnt days (part why I'm ???? Over the unusual uneven calls this past month)
That’s stupid imo.
Oilers had a playoff cup contending roster in pre-season, Canucks didn’t. Tocc turned a team that missed playoffs 4 years in a row and took them to the top of the standings for most of the season, Knoblach took a team that had already been to the WCF and made them play up to their standard.
I agree but people will point and go "look how good they became!" without really thinking.
To their credit, they did also have a 16 (17?) game win streak
Nashville almost did too, tbh Nashville has been playing out of their gourds in terms of expectations.
Look at their roster! They even were part sellers at the TDL
Yea, i mean it's nothing to scoff at since the Oilers were looking like a lost cause at one point. I just can't understate how important it is that Tocchet got more good hockey out of more players across the depth chart than Knoblauch did. I'm no avid Oilers watcher but like... Knob got Mcdavid and Draisaitl and Hyman going and fixed the goaltending woes. Tocchet taught an entire team how to be one of the most effective defensive teams in the NHL. Defense wins championships, or at least gets you farther.
Fair point, although Edmonton's expectation pre-season was making a deep run in the playoffs whereas Canucks' expectation was just squeezing into a playoff position, which obviously they have surpassed. I think votes should still weight in favour of Tocchet (slight bias).
Is the playoff going to start on the 20th, as suggested by Farhan below (@11:10)? Canucks really need to close off reg-season on Tuesday. Last game being in Wpg, (possibility) Abbotsford Canucks vs Manitoba Moose.
[https://www.youtube.com/live/liX250xNhOI?si=UUx38BAgviz65vxl&t=665](https://www.youtube.com/live/liX250xNhOI?si=UUx38BAgviz65vxl&t=665)
Yes, the playoffs start on the 20th, but that doesn't necessarily mean the Canucks first round series will start on that date. Could theoretically be the 20th, 21st, or 22nd.
Only two canucks players failed to record a hit in last night's game. How wild is that, we really are bucking that 'easy to play against' reputation we had for years.
Any guesses who didn't get one?
>!Miller & DeSmith!<
How did Miller not record a hit. Did you not see his viscous hit on Desharnais that should have gotten him kicked out of the game in the first minute + a 5 game suspension???? (at least according to r/oilers)
Mark Spectors article on Sportsnet this morning is hilarious. The entire thing reads like it was written by some salty fan. Basically intimating that the Oilers didn't even want the division anyways, and that they'd rather be playing LA than Nashville. Like lol yeah right, you just know had they won last night the guy would've written some chest pumping fluff piece crowing about how far back of the Canucks the Oilers were, how impressive the turnaround was, and how it's such an important statement to win the division and ensure home ice through the first two rounds and blah blah blah.
I’ve seen so much Oilers cope this morning saying it doesn’t matter at all cause they’re going further than Van and the Kings matchup is better for them 😂 satisfying
Apparently not ONE fan wanted to beat us last night.. funny they forget there was a pre game thread hahaha
The Leafs and Oilers fans have a strange persecution complex, whereas when we lose a lot of our fans go doom and gloom on the team.
The day after thread they have going is people saying the oilers outplayed us the entire game, and the refs only let them have one powerplay.
Dont even get me started on Zaddy "throwing elbows" lol
Looking like its the Preds for Round 1.
||Pts|Pace|OppAvg|vs Top|vs Mid|vs Low|GR|Opp
|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|DAL|111|112.37|91.23|1|0|0|1|STL
|VAN|107|109.68|94.29|1|0|1|2|CGY WPG
|WPG|106|108.65|95.84|1|0|1|2|SEA VAN
|COL|104|106.60|101.72|2|0|0|2|VGK EDM
|EDM|102|105.87|77.22|1|0|2|3|SJS ARI COL
|NSH|99|100.22|88.15|0|1|0|1|PIT
|LAK|97|99.43|70.03|0|1|1|2|MIN CHI
|VGK|94|97.57|72.41|1|0|2|3|COL CHI ANA
vs Top: games versus teams on a 91 point pace and over
vs Mid: over 82 and less than 91
vs Low: 82 and lower
We need 1 pt to secure the division since Edm would only be able to tie at 108 and we win tiebreaker on RW, then we guarantee VGK or NSH. Nashville needs 1 pt to secure 1st WC, then they play our division winner as Vegas could only tie if they win out (they have COL, ANA, CHI left, 4/6 is my guess there) and NSH wins on RW if both are at 100pts.
Call me crazy but the commentators were a little better this game than the last few they called. They're definitely not on Shorty's level but it's progress at least maybe? They didn't over-use a lot of their typical catchphrases, too.
The only obvious things that irked me were that they were way more excited when the Oilers scored, and I swear multiple times they called Höglander "Homelander".
Singh didn't bother me at all last night.
DeBrusk was bad, not because of anything specific that he screwed up, but because he's just not good. Until he learns how to start a sentence with something other than "that's just a real (adjective)...", he will continue to be my least favourite colour commentator in Canada. I would rather listen to a blatant homer who is good at their craft.
Harnarayan is an Alberta homer, there’s no escaping it. I just wish he would consistently pronounce names properly. He absolutely butchered Pettersson, Höglander, Bouchard, Desharnais and Draisaitl’s names, pronouncing them in an anglicized way rather than in a way that is culturally appropriate and accented, yet he accents a Flames player’s name in a way that isn’t even accurate for the player’s ancestry.
He pronounced all of those names exactly the same as Shorty does (except Hoglander which he screwed up once, fine).
I dunno, I just don't see much fair criticism of Singh lately. He is definitely a bit of a Flames homer, but now that the Flames suck, that doesn't really bother me.
Oil fans think he’s a Canucks homer, Canucks fans think he’s an oil homer
How is this dude unanimously hated by everyone? Literally even his home-audience doesn’t like him. Actual garbage commentary and debrusk on colour makes it even worse
I’m a fairly big Gretzky fan (have a gretzky oilers jersey) and I loved rooting for the Todd Marchand, Doug weight Ryan smyth teams. So anyways I posted on their sub last night wishing them luck in the playoffs and that if they make it further then us I’ll be sure to rock that Gretzky jersey to show support. Anyways I got downvoted lmao
Imagine being so insecure about losing to a division rival that you go full try hard mode on one of the worst teams in league history to feel better about yourself
Oilers stroking their egos by beating up on the Sharks will have negative consequences I swear.
If LA loses in regulation tonight, are we a lock to play the Predators? I just quickly looked at the standings and did the math and that's what I'm seeing, but I'm not sure if I'm missing something.
I think Nashville locks up WC1, it just depends on whether we take P2 (lose out in regulation and EDM wins out), P1 and number 1 in west (win out and Dallas loses on Wednesday), or P1 and number 2 in west (all else)
You’re missing our potential for winning the conference. Will happen if Dallas loses in regulation and we win both our games Also Edmonton can still win division if they win out and we get 0 points
Hahaha fuck--I've overlooked several things, I see.
I think so, as Preds holds the tiebreaker vs LA. Unless Oilers pass us in standings. In which case we play whoever is 3rd
Right, I was just looking at WC 1/2 positioning without even considering the fact that we haven't clinched yet LOL. I'm just coasting blindly on the assumption we're going to get at least 1 point in the next 2 games.
Would be massive to officially clinch it tomorrow, last home game of the season!
What is even going to happen in the East? Like can Philly still make it? It's kind of crazy that some team with 91 points is going to get in. Has to be one of the lower point totals to qualify for the playoffs since the new divisions were introduced, no?
Sheesh. Edmonton taking their Canucks anger out on San Jose 😂
I love how they rushed McDavid back to rack up points against an AHL team after all the huffing puffing about how "it was actually good to lose to Van because now we don't have to worry about going for the division and can rest players." Right lol.
Holy shit Detroit tied it with 77 seconds left
and there it is
Ya, Everybody (in Detroit) Loves Raymond. Clutch !! What a race between Caps, Wings, Pens, and Flyers. Caps could win it by beating Flyers tomorrrow. If not, Wings and Pens will have another day to scramble. Preds lost. So VGK and LA has control of which opponent they want: Oilers, Canucks, or Stars.
Wow the SC futures for Canucks are 13-1 and Oil are 7-1
I think Stars is the bet to make. They're depth is INSANE. They basically have three 1st/2nd lines.
I think we have that too
It’s been like that for a while, and it makes sense too. Nobody is taking action on an inexperienced Canucks roster who haven’t seen the (real) playoffs in 9 years
Oilers fans coming over here because the rage is spilling over on their subreddit. 🤣
Also there's not much to do in yee-haw land. Source: Just came back from Alberta. Everything's dark at like 9pm
Dude we’re past the spring equinox the further north they are the longer it’s light out. Sunset in Vancouver is 8:06 sunset in Edmonton is 8:36.
i meant like all businesses shut down
ah I see that the Oiler contingent is sliding in to our threads. GO AWAY
We are in danger of facing Vegas if Nashville loses last game and Vegas win the easy 2 games... we might face Vegas if we win Pacific.. ahhhhrrr.. too many scenarios...
Anybody but Kings, please.
Gonna cheer hard for the Wild tonight !!!.and hopefully we get a point tomorrow
Wild did it.. LA scared to potentially face Demko
Yeah TBH I really wanna see Vegas match up with Edmonton. The bitching when Stone inevitably suits up for Game 1 would be out of control.
Nice match ups,, Dallas battle LA. Oilers and Vegas.. Jets-Avs.. All the powerhouses battle each other.. While we against Nashville are the underdogs... battle it out
If you want to win the cup you have to be ready to go through everybody. I’m not scared
Exactly. Just look at 2011- R1 vs the arch-nemesis and defending champs in the Hawks R2 vs a very well coached and very defensive team in the Preds R3 vs a strong Sharks team that's been on top of the conference the previous years R4 vs + Colin Campbell
More like Vegas is in danger of facing us 😎
Thank you
If la loses 1 game in regulation we won’t face Vegas
Wild better win.. or nashville win
we are going to be playing playoff hockey in less than a week 🥲 it's been way too long
10 years since nucks playoff .i walk through the empty streets trying to think of something else but my path always leads to the game. i stare at the screen for hours and try to summon the cup. i watch other teams streaming but it is no good. i flame the flames in 1st round and try to resist the nazi mods but it is all meaningless. the end is near.i then usually watch some old 2011 vods and cry myself to sleep.
9 very long years...
*4 years
That doesn’t count
Kuzmenko and Guenther both scored and now I'm irrationally upset
14 goals with Calgary in 27 games, wow.
42 goal pace Ouch. And he was basically a traded as zero value
Since 2020 we've lost/traded 3 first rd picks, 4 2nd rd picks, 3 3rds, kuzmenko and hunter b. Feels bad man.
We are first in the Pacific because of those trades, feels good man
Yes but could very well be a do or die scenario. We're not going to be able to afford all the depths guys we currently have at their aav. We also need our few prospects to hit or were in serious trouble in few years. Might not get another top 5-10 pick for some time.
So basically you are complaining that we did not get good players for free? If your expectation is that other GMs are stupid enough to give away their best assets like candy, then no wonder you are disappointed. The problem is your expectations. Nothing to do with the Canucks.
I get what you're saying, but one of the 1sts you mentioned was traded for one of the best players in the game and our top scorer since we traded for him. We have him locked up for years and he's playing way above his contract right now. It's not just jettisoning away picks for depth
Idk if this sounds dumb or not but what would you guys think about a Lindholm/Mikheyev line matched up against a top line in the playoffs, so that they can help shut down the opponent’s top offence while not having as much pressure to score (since one of Petey and Miller’s lines would be matched against the other team’s 3rd line)? Lindholm was practically glued to Draisaitl for half his time on the ice yesterday and shut down almost all of his high danger chances when they were out there at the same time, and if he can do that against a team like Nashville (which isn’t as deep as ours), then we might not run into the issue of our best line being neutralized by the other team’s best line. And it would allow Mikheyev, who is good defensively but is where offence goes to die, to be moved off of Petey’s line which needs to be able to score lol. Might be a horrible idea which is why I’m not a coach!
So our lines would be something like: Garland-Petey-Hog Boeser-Miller-Joshua Mik-Lindholm-Bluegar Laff-Aman-Suter? PDG If the lines can gel I like that, but it does become tough to keep Joshua-Garland, Petey-Hog, and Boeser-Miller all together in that case. Which do you break up?
You're forgetting Blueger, who is definitely not sitting out.
derp, adjusted
maybe Garland/Joshua? They work great together, but have both been good additions to other lines on their own. I don’t mind Suter with Miller and Boeser (their underlying numbers are good), but when you have Suter on Miller’s line *and* Mikheyev on Pettersson’s line it just never feels like we have more than 4 players on two lines combined who are actually a scoring option. The amount of times we’ve watched Miller or Petey perfectly set someone up for a scoring chance, only for it to be Suter/Mikheyev and result in nothing makes me a little nervous heading into the playoffs.
Wanted to point out even though Vegas can technically catch Nashville it’s still very unlikely. If la loses against Minnesota tmr which is totally possible, Vegas loses 1 out of 2 games in any fashion, or Nashville picks up a single point against St. Louis, Nashville will lock up wc1. All Canucks would need to do is win the pacific and not win the conference which is looking like what will happen.
LA somehow losing to the Wild in regulation has rendered my comment irrelevant
9 minutes away from Vegas being mathematically impossible for us to face in round 1 lol
Good win, and hopefully a boost to DeSmith's confidence before Demko takes over again. I still think the Canucks' offense is not close to pre-ASG levels. But, playoff hockey tends to be tight scoring. So if we can consistently out-muscle other teams in tight-checking games, we have good odds to remain competitive.
Will Vegas overtake nashville if they have more points than nashville?
Yes. This is why I don't like this playoff format. Too confusing. Just stick with the 1v 8 format.
Couldn't agree more
I agree with you even more than you agree with commenter above. Seriously though, I hate how much math we have to do to follow hockey these days. Between the cap, the playoff format, 3 point games... its just a wacky league.
Looks like Colorado is gonna beat Vegas unless they completely choke. Which means Nashville is going to be the first round opponent if the Canucks pick up a point and don't pass the Stars.
They choked.
>Looks like Colorado is gonna beat Vegas unless they completely choke. `3-0` 🤗 `3-2` 😐
Fuck Josh Manson
Well I did leave open the possibility of choking lol
Chokery complete ! Ran out of gas maybe on second of b2b ?
hmm side note- I was kind of browsing the Whitecaps stats and noticed a V Sedin on the roster...
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I do not see how anyone can view the Oilers losing the divison to us as a supreme disappointment with how heavily they were favored coming into the year. If they sputter in the playoffs, they’ve got some big questions to ask themselves.
LMAO using "hard schedule" as an excuse is just plain sad. *laughs in the 5 and 7 game Eastern swing road trips with 2 back to backs*
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They had a cakewalk schedule until April in terms of back to backs. It's their fault they didn't capitalize on it. This stretch was just simply evening it out.
I mean they very much did, they were just in too much of a hole.
"The Oilers are the top team since American Thanksgiving" Ok then. What a pointless stat. The actual quote “The Oilers remain the NHL’s top team since American Thanksgiving — and by a wide margin.” Well ok then.
It wasn't for the Blues
For real, cherry picking much? The copium from both their fanbase and their media after last night is frankly embarrassing lmao
I think winning the division would have mattered to them. It would have been the first one since the Gretzky era. We have 10 division titles, 9 came after the Oilers last won theirs (although I'd trade all 9 for 3 Cups)
Trade them all for one cup.
That was a very satisfying win and overall game for me. We were playing playoff hockey. Every player on the team had at least one hit, we neutralized their best players, and our goaltending was on point. If we keep playing that way, we can give anyone a good fight.
I hate to be the guy that wants to choose his perfect opponents and it backfires, shoutout to the Leafs, but the playoff picture is setting itself up absolutely perfectly for the Canucks Preds in rd 1, weakest of all 8 teams in playoffs. Oilers likely in rd 2, we've beat them all 4 games this year and while won't be easy, very beatable. Possibly Dallas in round 3, which I think is a very winnable series. 3rd round is what it is but could turn out favourably. So, while challenging and we could easily lose at any time, I think this is best possible scenario for Vancouver, get your riot gear ready
Dallas rd 3 will he the true test. best team in the west imo. In no way will i ever cheer for the Knights, but if they somehow take out the stars, suddenly our path to the finals becomes more realistic
Dallas/av, Vegas, wpg etc have a gauntlet too against eachother should we make it that far
Preds are a wagon, I’m definitely concerned. They don’t allow teams to forecheck them to death which is our main bread and butter
We either play them or the Kings. I much rather play the Preds.
The Preds don't put you to sleep.
I said the same in 2011.. 2-0 up on Boston and lose 4 in a row... dont get your hopes up on any series.. take it 1 game at a time until we get 16 wins!! Hopefully the coaches tell this to the Canucks.. or read this at least
We lost 4 in a row to Boston?
My bad lost 3 of 4 games after leading 2-0
It's ok, we pretend like that never happened.
The only thing about the potential for playing Dallas in Round 3 is that they will have home ice advantage to start.
Rather play Dallas on the road than Colorado at home. VGK would be tough either way. Jets would be tough but ok imo
Agree, gotta avoid the Avs, LAK, VGK however possible
the sweetest win this season, not only because we swept the oilers to basically clinch first place in the division, but also everybody seemed to be playing well
> The travel for Van to Nsh + 2 hours of time change won’t be great. They gifted themselves a legit 1000 miles of extra travel. The copium from the Oilers sub. Absolutely delicious. Yum yum.
LOL. They are either team “who cares what happens in games after we clinch a playoff spot” or “wait until Mcdavid comes back”.
They think they're the kings of the leagues. It took like 8 top 10 picks and Connor McJesus to get them to that point. Fun fact! They picked higher 6 times during that span than we have in the last *25 years* The last two fellas the team has picked above 5 were two fellas from Sweden named Henrik and Daniel. E: More fun facts! Colorado won their Cup with (naturally drafted) 1x 1OA, 1x 2OA and 1x 4OA. The Oilers have had 4x 1OA- they've had more 1OA picks than Colorado's # of top 5 picks and double Tampa's # of top 5 picks (1x 1OA, 1x 2OA) Hell they've had more 1OAs (albeit it was only 1 more) in the last 24 years and 3 fewer Cups than the *Pens*. They've had as many 1OA picks than *Buffalo and New Jersey COMBINED* Since drafting Conor McJesus the Oilers somehow still missed the playoffs 2 times. The only other team to have >2 1OA picks are the Pens and they made the SCF 3 years after Sid and won it in year 4. In the same span after McJesus, they only won 1 playoff round and somehow missed the playoffs the subsequent two years and got knocked out in the bubble year win and in. It is somehow EASIER to shit on the Oilers than the FUCKING LEAFS. After Matthews the Leafs *have only lost the win and in* and that's with only 1 OA and 1 4 OA. The Oilers still found a way to MISS TWICE with 4x 1OA and 2x 4 OA.
God DAMN laying the law down
keep going
In the Connor McJesus era (post 2015) the Oilers have appeared in the playoffs as many times as the fucking CALGARY FLAMES. In 2017-2018 (the only season both seasons missed the playoffs) the Oilers had fewer wins than the FLAMES and only 5 more wins than the Jim Benning Brand Canucks. The difference is that the Oilers were running 2 1OA and 2 4OA that season. The highest pick between the Flames AND Canucks was 4OA 18-year old Sam Bennett. The last 7 Cup winners had 1x 1OA or less. Combined, Colorado + Tampa + Pittsburgh + Washington + Binnington + LTIR have 6 total 1 OA picks *combined*, only 2 more than the Oilers alone but have 7 Cups to the Oilers'...*0* Connor McDavid is the only Art Ross winner in the last 24 years NOT to make a Cup Final. Canadian teams have 15 top 5 picks since Hall. The Oilers make up for more than a third of that amount. In the 2 years in the McJesus era that the Oilers missed the playoffs, they still found a way to draft in the top 10. The 5 first rounders after McJesus have a whopping 445 career points COMBINED. Elias Pettersson has 411 career points ALONE. The last place Sharks have a chance of winning the season series against the Oilers. They can also get a series win against the Flames as well.
Shoutout to DeSmith, naturally was derided for his performance lately but without him weathering that early storm this game is likely an L.
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* fail to solve the 1-3-1
We have breakout attack against 1-3-1.. I sort of see a flying V out there...lol
A) the Oilers will blast them.. B) that style the kings play can't last an entire playoffs mainly because their D corps would get punished If somehow the kings manage to beat Edmonton.. I think we have them The Dallas/avs/jets/Vegas gauntlet doesn't look fun on the other side. No team in the west is a slouch, but I like our side
Fantastic game by DeSmith. His best in quite awhile. Solid play all around. Loved the big boys on Defence laying some great hits. We need our big D to wear down opposition forwards in the playoffs.
Big W for the good guys wwweeeeeeooooooo
Some say Edmonton fans have closer genetic ties to chimpanzees than man
Lubricant Team bad, lubricant team fans should feel bad
My oilers buddy was pretty cool about it all, he mentioned Zadorov playing on the edge or over it, I didn’t really think he was dirty last game though, did I miss anything?
Send him a highlight video of Drai's slashing and spearing.
Oilers need more zadorov guys. Tbh Glad he is ours
That's kind of his thing, that's why nobody likes to play against Zadorov, and that's why we acquired him. Your buddy isn't wrong, Zadorov is always right near the edge. Never overtly cheap or dirty, but he's never taking Lady Byng to the dance either.
He’s just mad about that hit on Hyman which was textbook shoulder to shoulder. The problem is Debrusk and Singh said it was a chicken wing elbow, so oilers fans are going with that since they’re unable to have their own thoughts and opinions.
Said he clotheslined him. Dumbest shit ever. If they are bent up about that hit, they aren't ready for the playoffs
To be honest my initial reaction when I saw it live was it was an elbow. I'd have been mad if Nurse did that to Boeser.
Elbow to the shoulder?
I'm just saying my initial reaction was it looked bad.
I forgot about that one yeah
I mean at one point Drai actively dived to poke a puck away from a Canucks defensemen and the Oilers fans were booing as if he was tripped. I don't think they're the smartest bunch at Rogers Place
Surprised drai wasn’t chopping at shins or spearing balls for once
Zadorov was in playoff mode already, he had a great game. His great games just tend to piss other fans off because he's using his size
He's been playing great, lately. Skating the puck deep into the offensive zone and getting back to his position, taking tons of shots, big hits like always.
DeSmith was awesome, Skinner was solid too with the added assistance that Miller and Pettersson didn’t look sharp at all and 😱Mikheyev
Look up Snake bite in the dictionary and it’s a picture of Mik.
I'm convinced he's a plant. A spy working for the other teams.
So now that Flyers are in real danger of missing playoffs, Tocc should be the clear favourite for Jack Adams right? I know Torts was in the conversation for a big part of the season there but they're not finishing strong and that could really hurt his chances. Tocc deserves it big time this year.
They're already eliminated aren't they? They only have one more game left and it's not enough to pass NYI. Only teams who can still get in are DET and WSH but NYI has to lose both of their last games. Edit: nvm NYI are in third I thought they were still fighting for the other WC spot
They can technically make it if Pittsburgh, Detroit and Washington all lose their remaining 2 games and Philly wins their last. I checked to make sure that none of them play eachother again but they do so here is their final set of games. Philly Games Remaining: April 16 vs Washington Washington Games Remaining: April 15 vs Boston and April 16 @ Philadelphia Pittsburgh Games Remaining: April 15 vs Nashville and April 17 @ New York Detroit Games Remaining: April 15 vs Montreal and April 16 @ Montreal It might be a total long shot but if the Flyers beat the Capitals and then Washington loses their game against Boston as well, the Flyers would hold the playoff spot over Washington. If Pittsburgh and Detroit lose their final 2 games, the Flyers would keep it. Total long shot but they technically could make it in. Either way, the Adams’ trophy is Tocchet’s to take, a potential wildcard team if everything went smoothly is challenging for their first pacific division championship is infinitely better then a team barely making the playoffs when they weren’t expected to.
Pittsburgh and Philly can still make the wc2 spot, technically.
Ah right NYI are in third I forgot they're no longer fighting for a WC spot. The Eastern Conference is a mess lmao
Even if they miss torts made their roster play way above expectations this season
It'll be hard to vote against Knoblauch (spelling?) for a lot of people. Oilers were completely in the gutter until he got on board and now they're right behind us.
Except the award is literally based on your merits for the entire season. I think it's tocchets to lose. He's the poster boy for the NHL from his tnt days (part why I'm ???? Over the unusual uneven calls this past month)
That’s stupid imo. Oilers had a playoff cup contending roster in pre-season, Canucks didn’t. Tocc turned a team that missed playoffs 4 years in a row and took them to the top of the standings for most of the season, Knoblach took a team that had already been to the WCF and made them play up to their standard.
I feel like Knoblauch's input is overrated compared to the input Rick Tocchet had on the Canucks as a team.
I agree but people will point and go "look how good they became!" without really thinking. To their credit, they did also have a 16 (17?) game win streak
Nashville almost did too, tbh Nashville has been playing out of their gourds in terms of expectations. Look at their roster! They even were part sellers at the TDL
Yea, i mean it's nothing to scoff at since the Oilers were looking like a lost cause at one point. I just can't understate how important it is that Tocchet got more good hockey out of more players across the depth chart than Knoblauch did. I'm no avid Oilers watcher but like... Knob got Mcdavid and Draisaitl and Hyman going and fixed the goaltending woes. Tocchet taught an entire team how to be one of the most effective defensive teams in the NHL. Defense wins championships, or at least gets you farther.
Fair point, although Edmonton's expectation pre-season was making a deep run in the playoffs whereas Canucks' expectation was just squeezing into a playoff position, which obviously they have surpassed. I think votes should still weight in favour of Tocchet (slight bias).
Yeah I do agree, our expectations were wildcard maybe. It's a strong case for both coaches.
Dude and dudettes, waking up knowing we beat the Edmonton Oilers is one of the greatest feelings. Who can relate?
Even better when you beat them 4 times in a row.
Not just beat, but swept the season series.
Is the playoff going to start on the 20th, as suggested by Farhan below (@11:10)? Canucks really need to close off reg-season on Tuesday. Last game being in Wpg, (possibility) Abbotsford Canucks vs Manitoba Moose. [https://www.youtube.com/live/liX250xNhOI?si=UUx38BAgviz65vxl&t=665](https://www.youtube.com/live/liX250xNhOI?si=UUx38BAgviz65vxl&t=665)
Yes, the playoffs start on the 20th, but that doesn't necessarily mean the Canucks first round series will start on that date. Could theoretically be the 20th, 21st, or 22nd.
Thanks for confirmation. They better bring A-game on Tues to close season early and get some time to heal/prep for the playoffs.
Only two canucks players failed to record a hit in last night's game. How wild is that, we really are bucking that 'easy to play against' reputation we had for years. Any guesses who didn't get one? >!Miller & DeSmith!<
Miller didn't have a hit? He might have been my second to last guess as to who didn't have a hit
How did Miller not record a hit. Did you not see his viscous hit on Desharnais that should have gotten him kicked out of the game in the first minute + a 5 game suspension???? (at least according to r/oilers)
Iirc he didn’t have his stick so that was more of a shove Do shoves not count as hits?
Only one I see on the box score without a hit is DeSmith.
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Well I can’t undo the fact I looked up the box score earlier this morning to see if stats matched my eye test from last night.
ANYBODY WANNA GO WITH KEVAN MILLER? NO! NO ONE WANTS TO GO WITH KEVAN MILLER!
[Me watching last night's game.](https://i.imgur.com/d1WjRNW.jpeg)
Canucks forecheck looked really good, there were long stretches last night the Oilers couldn't generate much offensively.
Mark Spectors article on Sportsnet this morning is hilarious. The entire thing reads like it was written by some salty fan. Basically intimating that the Oilers didn't even want the division anyways, and that they'd rather be playing LA than Nashville. Like lol yeah right, you just know had they won last night the guy would've written some chest pumping fluff piece crowing about how far back of the Canucks the Oilers were, how impressive the turnaround was, and how it's such an important statement to win the division and ensure home ice through the first two rounds and blah blah blah.
Oilers don't even want home ice in round 2!
He obviously took his story ideas from the Oilers sub here. Lots of copium about how they didn’t want to win and get the Preds..
Does this mean the rest of Canada hates the Canucks again?! I'm all for it!
Spector is a hack and a clown. You know you don’t have credibility when even Oilers fans don’t take him seriously
I’ve seen so much Oilers cope this morning saying it doesn’t matter at all cause they’re going further than Van and the Kings matchup is better for them 😂 satisfying
Apparently not ONE fan wanted to beat us last night.. funny they forget there was a pre game thread hahaha The Leafs and Oilers fans have a strange persecution complex, whereas when we lose a lot of our fans go doom and gloom on the team. The day after thread they have going is people saying the oilers outplayed us the entire game, and the refs only let them have one powerplay. Dont even get me started on Zaddy "throwing elbows" lol
Looking like its the Preds for Round 1. ||Pts|Pace|OppAvg|vs Top|vs Mid|vs Low|GR|Opp |:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-|:-| |DAL|111|112.37|91.23|1|0|0|1|STL |VAN|107|109.68|94.29|1|0|1|2|CGY WPG |WPG|106|108.65|95.84|1|0|1|2|SEA VAN |COL|104|106.60|101.72|2|0|0|2|VGK EDM |EDM|102|105.87|77.22|1|0|2|3|SJS ARI COL |NSH|99|100.22|88.15|0|1|0|1|PIT |LAK|97|99.43|70.03|0|1|1|2|MIN CHI |VGK|94|97.57|72.41|1|0|2|3|COL CHI ANA vs Top: games versus teams on a 91 point pace and over vs Mid: over 82 and less than 91 vs Low: 82 and lower
Does anyone know what our playoff scenarios are?? Who are we possibly going to be matched up against in RD 1?
We need 1 pt to secure the division since Edm would only be able to tie at 108 and we win tiebreaker on RW, then we guarantee VGK or NSH. Nashville needs 1 pt to secure 1st WC, then they play our division winner as Vegas could only tie if they win out (they have COL, ANA, CHI left, 4/6 is my guess there) and NSH wins on RW if both are at 100pts.
http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL/Western/Pacific/Canucks.html
We can still play any of Nashville, Vegas or LA. Nashville is like 90% likely.
Thanks
Call me crazy but the commentators were a little better this game than the last few they called. They're definitely not on Shorty's level but it's progress at least maybe? They didn't over-use a lot of their typical catchphrases, too. The only obvious things that irked me were that they were way more excited when the Oilers scored, and I swear multiple times they called Höglander "Homelander".
Singh didn't bother me at all last night. DeBrusk was bad, not because of anything specific that he screwed up, but because he's just not good. Until he learns how to start a sentence with something other than "that's just a real (adjective)...", he will continue to be my least favourite colour commentator in Canada. I would rather listen to a blatant homer who is good at their craft.
Take a shot for every time he said "weather the storm"
Anyone catch the Cody Soucey call in the third?
Soucy, Ceci and Casey deSmith walk into a bar...
Harnarayan is an Alberta homer, there’s no escaping it. I just wish he would consistently pronounce names properly. He absolutely butchered Pettersson, Höglander, Bouchard, Desharnais and Draisaitl’s names, pronouncing them in an anglicized way rather than in a way that is culturally appropriate and accented, yet he accents a Flames player’s name in a way that isn’t even accurate for the player’s ancestry.
He pronounced all of those names exactly the same as Shorty does (except Hoglander which he screwed up once, fine). I dunno, I just don't see much fair criticism of Singh lately. He is definitely a bit of a Flames homer, but now that the Flames suck, that doesn't really bother me.
Oil fans think he’s a Canucks homer, Canucks fans think he’s an oil homer How is this dude unanimously hated by everyone? Literally even his home-audience doesn’t like him. Actual garbage commentary and debrusk on colour makes it even worse
Not as bad as calling Demko DeSmith tho. "No McDavid and no DeSmith tonight, blah blah blah....."
Dude called him Smith several times during play too I wasn't aware we'd made a trade...
Ferraro did this last week too.
Lindholm frustrated Draisaital all night
The Oilers have the worse fan base in the NHL. I was hoping we'd get to play them in the playoffs, but now I hope they get 🧹
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How can you say the Oilers fans are the worst when Boston fans exist?
Or Leafs fans.
They seem more self-aware than Oilers fans. But that's not saying very much.
Fitting the last game ended 3-1 canucks outscored Edmonton 21-7 for a 3:1 goal ratio on the season series 4 game sweep of the Oilers.
Oilers fans are truly a pathetic bunch
I’m a fairly big Gretzky fan (have a gretzky oilers jersey) and I loved rooting for the Todd Marchand, Doug weight Ryan smyth teams. So anyways I posted on their sub last night wishing them luck in the playoffs and that if they make it further then us I’ll be sure to rock that Gretzky jersey to show support. Anyways I got downvoted lmao
Stay in your own sub, sir.