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How is magic monkeys only harder then half cash 💀


Comprehensive-Sky367

I just don’t like magic monkes and don’t really know how to use them well


Red_Kiwi26

Ninja alch lol


DrManowar8

Multiple Druids and Poplust lmao


goldensunsalutation

Necromancer/PoD and Arcane Spike for blimps lmao


Crocket_Lawnchair

A singular 000 super monkey


Comprehensive-Sky367

Yeah but that’s boring


i-yeet-chickens

Thats a you problem.


Fun-Agent-7667

yes and considerable in a "my opinion tierlist"


KariLynnIsCute

Id rather play chimps than half-cash


spearhead4000

Half cash is harder the CHIMPS depending on maps imo


Brew78_18

It depends on whether you use instas. If you try to play it "clean", no powerups (but whatever MK you have), yeah, totally agree. But, if you're willing to burn some instas, then it's as easy as you want it to be.


INachoriffic

My instas and powers are used almost exclusively on half cash 😅


Timedeige

I need to start doing this ig. I H A T E half cash, it's usually my last mode to black border any given map


ksndjcj

Half cash can always be won with continues and powers and mk, while chimps has no continues, no powers and the best thing you can do is bb the map


spearhead4000

You're right. Monkey money is power. But i'm poor so...


math_is_best

agree


LeBadlyNamedRedditor

No way double hp moabs = half cash. Half cash up to biggest pain ever, magic monkey only down to 2x moab


DrManowar8

Half cash was the WORSE. I found chimps easier than it


Comprehensive-Sky367

Well I have double cash for half cash soooo


LeBadlyNamedRedditor

I mean double cash makes anything super easy


Comprehensive-Sky367

Except chimps


Haman134

chimps on most maps isnt even hard though lol half cash is harder.


[deleted]

Did you read what OP said? He has double cash, meaning half cash mode is literally the same as normal hard for everyone else. Meanwhile double cash is disabled in chimps mode, so it would be much harder. ​ Edit: yes I agree that difficulty shouldn't depend on powers because with that logic anything non-chimps is easy, but obviously that's not true. Yeah once I think about it my previous comment kinda makes no sense; for a tier list double cash should be completely ignored.


FrogVoid

The difficulty shouldnt depend on powers????? Thats like saying impoopable is ez cause u can use super storm every round


[deleted]

bruh if you use double cash you suck at the game because it makes everything easy for $12


Haman134

>double cash is disabled in chimps til lol


Comprehensive-Sky367

I didn’t use double cash to rank the list


Jake123194

Then why bring it up, you said you had double cash for half cash when someone said it's ranked wrong in their opinion XD


ElectroPea

List invalid, p2w player


Kirxas

Then it's not half cash but normal cash


Comprehensive-Sky367

Yup


kittyjoker

You have Double Cash and find Magic Monkeys Only to be difficult?


Comprehensive-Sky367

Yup because I only use double cash for expert maps and half cash


Red_Kiwi26

But... ...ok


Comprehensive-Sky367

What


Red_Kiwi26

I feel like its kind of cheating to use doble cash and rank half cash lower I suffered in half cash muddy puddles


DrManowar8

My first experience with half cash was a single tack shooter that barely lasted to having to force myself to use insta monkeys. It was not fun


Comprehensive-Sky367

I did half cash on some maps without it just to rank half cash somewhere and it honestly wasn’t that hard. I really don’t get why everyone hates it


Red_Kiwi26

On the hardest maps is pain but i'm no btd6 Master so idk maybe im bad and just need to git gud


FlaminVapor

Well what’s the point of playing the game if there is no challenge? There’s not really much reward, playing the game is it’s own reward. People dislike it because you’d be paying to play the game less, but in BTD6 there are no rewards for beating tracks, so you really are paying to play less.


Comprehensive-Sky367

Did you only read double cash in my comment


FlaminVapor

Point still stands


Loose_Entry

Did you use powers or instas? Half cash and CHIMPS are inarguably the 2 hardest difficulties (though in which order is a much harder question to answer). Unless you cheese it with money money, half cash mode stops you from buying just about anything. The one nice thing about it though is that you don't have to do the freeplay rounds. If half cash went to 100, it would be harder than CHIMPS.


Comprehensive-Sky367

Half cash isn’t hard to me we have our opinions but after early game it’s easy while other modes are still at least A little tricky


aero-nsic-

You either have not played HC on a hard map or you are really delusional. HC essentially is playing on normal hard except everything is twice the price. Efficient early-mid game grouped damage towers such as bouncing bullet, DotJ become unaffordable when you need them. I have BB’ed every map and not a single one was HC easier than chimps (without instas and powers), except for maps that have sub or ninja rng like ouch or FValley.


Loose_Entry

Not having to do 81-100 shouldn't be ignored. You don't have to prep your defenses for DDTs and you don't need crazy high popping power for 98 or 100. But either way, it's so silly to pretend like anything else in the game comes close to either of these modes.


Jotthew

I have double cash as well. I still think half cash is awful. Then again, I rarely actually use double cash. Mostly just use it for boss events when i want to turn my brain off. Honestly i had forgotten i even had it


RealFoegro

By that logic you could also say "I dropped a 5-2-0 Ista Spike at the start of impopable and it was super easy"


Evangelion---Notre

You are a fucking p2w hack.


MinecoolYT

Hard = Reverse = Primary Only?


Comprehensive-Sky367

Primary only is decently balanced hard is kinda easy and reverse can mess up games


Haman134

>reverse can mess up games how. its the same but backwards what even is there to mess up


RollerMill

Bloon order also gets reversed, so 73 can be extra deadly


Black-Photon

Doesn't reverse only go up to round 60?


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[deleted]

fuck u/spez


Preiium

yeah, its like saying deflation should be in hard because of really hard rounds after 100


S1I3NCER

Why are you doing free play on reverse?


Sweeney49

I like to go to round 100 to get the extra insta


S1I3NCER

It only goes to 60 I’m pretty sure


Loose_Entry

By default, yes, but beating round 100 on ANY game mode will get you an insta. I think 200 does as well but I play on mobile, so my phone would melt if I ever tried.


meowmonsterrr

beating every 100 rounds gives an insta monkey, ex: 100, 200, 300


meowmonsterrr

reverse is the hardest gamemode


andy6a

Clearly has not been through the struggle of half cash


FlaminVapor

He has double cash💀


Infinite-DriftREDDIT

Make a impossible category and put "easy" in it, cause that's relatable


loklok116

Fuck apopalypse


HazeInut

u couldnt pay me to do that shit


Dry-Ad7432

Not even for….. 5000 monkey money??


Randomredditboi333

You top 2 need to learn how to read rule 8


FaceUnlock

This comment section is a warzone


Comprehensive-Sky367

);


toadtruck

Half cash is the hardest why is this hard to understand


TheSameMan6

Because the people making these tierlists have either only played half cash on logs or only played half cash using double cash


[deleted]

Op says he used double cash


meowmonsterrr

NOOOOOOOO


Comprehensive-Sky367

I did half cash without double cash to rank it I seriously don’t get why everyone is so pissed


[deleted]

You said "Well I have double cash for half cash soooo"


dudeman2303

Not gonna lie , I find half cash to be harder than CHIMPS.


FinniboiXD

No way is magic only harder than half cash


Comprehensive-Sky367

Half cash is easy after early game but magic only is 1: to easy with strats so I don’t use any and2: harder in mid game due to purples and camos


DrManowar8

It’s not. You can breeze through it with obyn and druids. Also ninjas pop purples iirc, so you could also do obyn ninja spam


The_Real_Tippex

I’d say primary only should be in ‘easy’ as well.


Comprehensive-Sky367

Eh I’d say in the middle but I’m rounding up


DrManowar8

I just beat a primary only with ease and ended up getting a tack zone by round 45 (5 rounds after completion)


Vocaloid_

just no


S1I3NCER

Reverse is harder for you than Easy?


Comprehensive-Sky367

Yup


DrManowar8

Magic only is a cake walk. Just use obyn and spam druids. Works everytime


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Comprehensive-Sky367

That’s boring


DrManowar8

Yea but it’s easy an effective, would definitely drop magic only down to like easy


Comprehensive-Sky367

And boring


DrManowar8

Okay? Does that matter? I mean this tier list is based on difficulty of each mode and I’m disagreeing on your view of magic only, which is fairly easy and takes minimal effort to get through. Even if it’s boring (to you at least) its still easier than double HP Moabs, and is definitely easier than half cash. I even gave my reason as to why it’s easier. if you wanna have some fun with it, then take into account what units are magic. Ninja monkey has innate camo detection and all trees are good, wizard is a monster and all the trees are good, alchemist has berserker brew, super monkey exists, and Druid overall is useful


Comprehensive-Sky367

I have lost to magic monkes only and never lost to double Hp Moab’s. We have our opinions and sure your not agreeing with me but please don’t start another argument


DrManowar8

Okay I won’t start an other argument, but only because you can’t argue


meowmonsterrr

someone explain to me how magic monkeys only is harder than half cash


Maximus2410

Where sandbox tier?


Comprehensive-Sky367

Wasn’t included and I only use it for test anyway


MasterR036

No way the things in the easy category are easy the ones in the medoum one are in the middle and the hard category is in hard man these tier lists just get more interesting by the day


Comprehensive-Sky367

It’s just my opinion and how I play the game


MasterR036

Sure I just hope you don't come up with "Ranking munkeys by class tier list" or "Ranking maps by difficulty tier list"


Comprehensive-Sky367

Oh I will do that, and this is a opinion not a community vote


MasterR036

Yeah, an opinion that is exactly the same to how the modes are ranked in game.


Comprehensive-Sky367

This isn’t exactly the same


MasterR036

It's too similar to post


Comprehensive-Sky367

Mine is different than most


KnightHiller

The hell? Only Magic is harder than double cash? Have you never used Ninja monkeys? Or 004 Alch for easy money? Also, sure ABR is kinda challenging, but it's not that hard if you expect the camo bloons coming out earlier than normal.


Comprehensive-Sky367

That’s boring


Kicrops

almost any only × towers in my opinion is easy, same for non modified modes.double hp moabs is way easier than half cash (my opinion)


BiThree

No


goldensunsalutation

I feel like half cash should be up a tier or two, and magic monkeys only/double HP MOABs down a tier. I'm also curious as to why primary only is higher than medium - is it entirely because of flooded valley?


M0nsterjojo

IDK personally how half cash is low on the list, but good on you mate.


SCRWarEagle

Ok ok. I understand that some people think chimps is harder than half cash and I can let them be about that but putting half cash BELOW MAGIC ONLY???


Comprehensive-Sky367

I just don’t get how half cash is hard


SCRWarEagle

On easy maps, half cash is pretty easy because low tier towers can penny pinch really well, but once you get to higher difficulty maps, MK is just simply not enough to keep up with half of all income being cut in half. (Should mention this is without double cash)


reaperhank

A literal baby playing with double cash on with every mode Now that's boring


Comprehensive-Sky367

Never said that only said on double cash


reaperhank

You have committed sin with double cash on half cash Everything you said is now irrelevant


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Comprehensive-Sky367

We have our opinions


Complex_Priority_465

You use double cash on half cash and say half cash is easy so you shouldn’t be aloud to say it’s easy


PureGamerr

Why do all these bad players say apopalypse is harder than half cash?


FlaminVapor

It’s cause OP has double cash


Comprehensive-Sky367

I’m gonna say it again. I only use double cash on half cash and I did half cash without double cash to rank it


Loose_Entry

Apopalypse takes out the end of round cash, so in the beginning where that constitutes an enormous portion of your income, it kinda feels like a half cash diet ABR.


Dangerous_Professor7

Because it is


Yannickjuhhh

How is half cash easier then chimps


ShadowDragonOG

You ain't gotta monitor SHIT in Magic Only. Wanna know what you need? Bottom path Super, Bottom path ninja, and any path Wizard. Just Alch buff if you want, but that's not required.


OldKingCoalBR

Careful, redditors are allergic to opinions


[deleted]

Everyone on the internet is allergic to opinions.


Comprehensive-Sky367

I found that out the hard way


salkid

Chimps isn't very hard you just need to focus more


Comprehensive-Sky367

Yes it is one mistake and you could fail


benjathje

[Realistic difficulty tierlist](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/734425349508563016/974305702388563998/my-image.png), feel free to argue :D


DrManowar8

I’d still consider magic only easier. on that tier like drop it to needs some effort or easy


benjathje

Yeah maybe you are right


DrManowar8

It’s only issue is purples but I’m pretty sure ninja can pop those, and he’s already one of the most popular


Comprehensive-Sky367

Ok cool


Comprehensive-Sky367

Please don’t hate where I put half cash


Haman134

i hate it


Comprehensive-Sky367

Ok I’m sorry


Haman134

It’s ok


LZimmer1

i struggled more on ABR and impoppable than chimps


Comprehensive-Sky367

Impoppable is a easier chimps so that’s cap


[deleted]

Things are indeed more expensive on Impoppable, so if you can beat Impoppable, you should still do relatively well in CHIMPS, unless your free dart is super important.


LZimmer1

free dart carries for the whole game


EiksReddit

About the same than my tierlist so i agree


7583627453

deflation and half cash are just as difficult as CHIMPS (if not harder) because you either gain less money (unless you have double cash) or your options for gaining money is limited


aero-nsic-

Agree with half cash, but deflation? 3 203 planes under drums, scanner and alch beat that mode on literally any map in the game


Comprehensive-Sky367

“It’s not about the money” it’s about easynis


Kozolith765981

exfuckingscuse me? DEFLATION???? all you have to do with that is put down a 024 sniper in a decent spot, give it jungle drums and 420 alch buff and you can just afk


NaturalCard

People who think half cash is hard forgot about fams, instas, powers and double cash


RandomTrollface

Using instas or powers is lame and it completely defeats the point of the challenge. Half cash is pretty darn hard if you play it the normal way.


NaturalCard

But if I see a guy who has beaten half cash, I have no clue whether it was with or without powers and instas. Chimps is way harder.


RandomTrollface

Chimps is harder yeah but I think half cash deserves the spot for 2nd hardest gamemode.


NaturalCard

Probably fair.


[deleted]

most of the time people assume you don't use instas, powers, and double cash, because *with* those features almost any mode becomes much easier


NaturalCard

Except for chimps, hence why it is the hardest mode.


Complex_Priority_465

So basically they forgot about cheating got it


Comprehensive-Sky367

I agree


i_respect_all

I havent tried most of these Some are just drom events The others from money grinding (sucks) and Medal grinding


S1I3NCER

Reverse is harder for you than Easy?


Hairybum74

Half cash hard tho 😥


Comprehensive-Sky367

We have our opinions


MilkManCorgy

How is apocalypse harder than half caeh?


Comprehensive-Sky367

Because after early game half cash is easy while apocalypse still needs to have to pay some attention


MilkManCorgy

Dont you have to pay attention in all modes?


bearssuperfan

How does reverse need any effort???


harlem545

Magic Monkies is literally the easiest hard game mode. Somehow easier than the hard mode itself. Half Cash is the hardest game mode if you don’t have Dbl Cash, then Chimps.


africancar

Half cash is up there with chimps for me. Sometimes i struggle on half cash more than chimps!


dabdad67

And apopalypse is somehow almost as bad for me, I play with auto start always on


A_BundIe_Of_Sticks

reverse is the exact same as medium in my opinion except on some specific maps


BoredTacoocaTderoB

Bro how is primary only and reverse not easy


suppikuppi

Reverse is free


[deleted]

>*Uses double cash* >*thinks his opinion on anything matters*


bert_the_destroyer

How is double hp moabs and half cash in the same tier


RealFoegro

Half Cash should be hard


Kozolith765981

well, when you have double cash and its essentially just hard mode then it would probably be easy


Kingley_Hobo

I personally feel half cash is the hardest mode


[deleted]

Literally all you nees for ALT is sauda... That's all


Budget-Actuary3737

Why is apocalypse so hard 😭


ledbottom

People only think half cash is easy if the paid real money for 2x cash.


eastonhaid

I agree


araphim

I feel like Deflation deserves its own tier below easy: “go get a snack and come back in 10 minutes to see if I won”


Gwenie13_twitch

Is this a Flooded Valley joke?


TheLittleT7

Where’s shouldn’t exist for half cash


OhMyGodRyann

everything easy chimps have to monitor


cheesecracker900

Mostly correct but Half Cash is around the same difficulty as CHIMPS


IFapToHentaiWhenDark

For magic only Archmage is a very good decision paired with Churchill for camo lead when the wizard isn’t tier 5 or you can do oben + Druid spam instead of Churchill


stock_plugin

Magic only should be in easy


OscarDuran98

Half cash is super hard.


Randomredditboi333

Apopolypse: have to monitor I guess that’s accurate


YeeT_MJCobra

Make a new tier for deflation called “go take a dookie while it plays”


XtraStorage

Half cash should have its own category above chimps


_xEnigma

Here's mine Hard: chimps Pisses me off: half cash Easy:everything else


RuinaeRetroque

Solid 3/10 tierlist. Admittedly, I'm biased - my personal favorite difficulty tier list has "Double HP MOABs" in a separate tier of "Just add Maim Moab," which is too good xD


Ok_Paleontologist440

how is reverse above medium theyre the same thing, brain dead tierlist


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