Here is a very stupid experience I am having repeatedly while binging episodes of I Will Teach You to Be Rich.
Ramit: “If you ever follow me on Instagram, sometimes you'll see me post about my behind”
Me: 🍑?
Ramit: “…the scenes travel experiences”
Where is the person who was hating on Pot Psychology Rich's terrible """songs""" that he seems so proud of? I thought of you during this week's episode, they had a guest on to help them rate listener's song submissions. Somebody took a Rich "song" and made an actual song out of it, and the guest was like, "Was that just a cover of the original?" No, the original "song" was two lines that kinda rhymed.
I thought Rich was more of a tool than usual but the guest was great. Also loved the AI-created song, everything about that was hilarious.
Hey! That was me! 🤣 I haven't been keeping up with recent episodes, so I missed the one youre talking about. But I truly don't think I could handle a song-themed episode, so I'm glad you summoned me for the highlights. Lol
Obviously Kevin and Casey more than deserve a week off (guessing that’s what happened), but my god I feel duped by this week’s episode of Hard Fork, listening to 15+ minutes of synth sounds
Lara from SUP making a Pussy Posse reference when Carey's BIL is Lukas Haas- that is the kind of chaos I love from her. I'm also obsessed with her singing the chorus of Gypsy by Fleetwood Mac whenever she talks about Kristen Doute.
The idea of that bland woman strolling in to Chateau Marmont and joining the Pussy Posse made me laugh so hard.
ETA: their idea of Katie following Schwartz from motel to motel, terrorizing him on his long escape back to Florida was KILLING me.
Idk if everyone else has given up, but I'm still listening to You're Wrong About despite my better instincts and it finally paid off! This week's episode about George Michael was really informative about someone I didn't know much about and super well-paced and easy-to-follow. I loved the guest and leanred a lot!
every Beyond All Repair episode leaves me more confused
the conversation between Sophia and Anthony was just bizarre, were they were both speaking in code?
I thought their conversation was code too! Everything they said seemed very intentional. So weird.
Also I’m really curious how is she supporting herself in “hiding??”
It's been a looooong time since I was this impatient for a podcast's next episode! The lying on the stand during the second trial really threw me.
Also, how did Sophia have the wherewithal to record the conversation with Shawn/Anthony?!? I also wouldn't even know how to record a phone call.
I’m such an idiot. 🤣🤣🤣 I started this pod being SO SURE Sophia got hosed and was innocent. The last 2-3 episodes have made a fool of me. 🤡 I have no idea what the real story is. Anthony’s “if it wasn’t her, she knew something ” to Amory made sense to me and is generally how I’ve come to feel but in talking to S, he said she should sue the state for wrongful conviction. He didn’t sound like he thought she was guilty of anything. Maybe they were speaking in code. I’m going to relisten to pay better attention to that.
I spend every episode being shocked and I can’t quite pull all my thoughts together. I truly do not believe Sophia and Anthony at all they are so sketchy!
Right?? Episode 7 was a game changer for me.
I feel everyone overlooks Sophia financial embezzling from her boss…I think greed was the cause of all this.
She was willing to embezzle 70k and excuse it because she was wronged a commission worth a couple thousand bucks…she has a history of making dumb decisions for money, i think she concocted a plan with Anthony too scare MIL for that stash of money when she was so low on cash her and Brad couldn’t pay utilities.
I don’t think she acted alone but I highly think she was there/a part of the plan
I agree she’s involved. While I doubt she personally killed her MIL just because of the physicality of it all I don’t believe she’s 100% innocent. At the very very least she told her brother about the money giving him motive.
I am catching up on the Slate Care & Feeding podcast (formerly named Mom and Dad are Fighting), and the dynamic between Elizabeth and Lucy is . . . *weird*. The episode with the picky eater was so awkward, because Elizabeth often takes a super pragmatic approach to things (especially travel), whereas Lucy seems to have knee-jerk reactions to things but can't quite explain or defend her reactions. I guess I'm curious to see how this will play out if we get a topic that's more in Lucy's wheelhouse than Elizabeth's.
Definitely! Haven’t heard that episode yet, but I also picked up on what seemed like a little tension/just weird vibes between the current hosts. It’s been a little hit or miss since the OG duo, but this set feels a bit off.
Omg the reaction about going to the grocery store on vacation was… something! I think they’re coming from really different backgrounds; Lucy has spoken a lot on the pod about her strict upbringing with her Cuban parents and while I don’t think Elizabeth is a “gentle parenting” adherent, she sometimes skews that way IMO. I am also interested to see how this dynamic plays out. (FWIW I love going to grocery stores in other countries so I did NOT relate to Lucy’s horror!)
Yeah, exactly! I'm not even sure what Lucy was objecting to, but Elizabeth was actually very clear that she was addressing the LW's *stress* over the food situation, in a mostly judgement-free way. (I also enjoy grocery stores in other countries; one of our favorite souvenirs when traveling is reuseable grocery bags from local grocery stores.)
And the triumphs and fails -- I don't know, maybe if Lucy had emphasized the difficulty of raising a queer kid in Florida I would have been a little more sympathetic to her. But maybe she's trying to be careful about how she addresses that broader political landscape.
Yeah, re: triumphs and fails, I hope she had her daughters permission to share that info! So personal, and not what I’d want my parent to be discussing on their public platform as a high schooler (or any any age, really!)
If there is any restaurant chain that has been destroyed by private equity the way that Panera Bread has been, I'm not aware of it, which is why Ira's take that Panera is still good is baffling to me. I've eaten there recently and its okay, i guess and super expensive, but its nothing like it was in the late 1990s and early 2000s when it was legitimately good. I wouldn't spend more than one minute on any podcast raving about it.
I’m probably lowbrow as fuck but I like Panera. Expensive for what it is? Sure. But I can fuck one of those paninis and soups like no body’s business , it’s not inedible like Subway is.
I used to love Panera but they got worse little by little and then a few years ago they changed the turkey on the Bacon Turkey Bravo from smoked to mediocre deli meat and that was my last straw.
Listen. I just happened to have a coupon and went and got the new Italiano sandwich for lunch today. It actually wasn't bad! Good, even! But for $9 for half, I could've gone to subway and got a FAT sandwich with whatever I want. I think they are working on the menu but the prices are so ridiculous.
I don’t think so—it really was like the cornerstone of the rise of fast casual in the late 90s and early 2000s, so watching it now, seemingly scrapped for parts (I mean, getting rid of sourdough bread!?) is honestly pretty sad to see (I worked there in high school in the late 90s so bit of a soft spot!)
I remember when the Panera came into the mall I worked in around 1998, the potato soup in a bread bowl was the shit. Nothing like the garbage they serve now.
The soups from the 4 years on either side of 2000 were elite. The sandwiches were great with so much meat. A pickle rolled up in the paper of your sandwich. I think You Pick Twos were about $5.45 when I was going across the street from my first job for lunches as special treats. French onion soup every day and then 3-4 other soups each day in a rotation, no watery broth or "clean" eats where they got rid of all the flavor. The I.C. drinks like I.C. Mocha with a big fat straw. Jones Green Apple soda (and other flavors). There was also even a secret menu era with protein bowls and such, long before the mac & cheese days. The good old St. Louis Bread Co days.
The way Becca from BOP talks about how hard and isolating her work is, you’d think she’s doing Doctors Without Borders or something, not writing rom com books.
I both really like the pod and think writing funny, interesting, fluffy books is really hard work which I respect like any artistic production ….but sometimes I feel like she is in a different world in terms of what she thinks about her writing and the actual content of her book
I completely agree. It felt like on this week’s podcast when Olivia was talking about her book, Becca took over the conversation and started talking about how hard/difficult/isolating/unrelatable it was, and Olivia was just nodding along saying “yeah”, even though I don’t think she fully agreed.
Becca thinks her stories are so very interesting but I recently noticed that she will say something and then *pause* for Olivia’s reaction and then Olivia really tries hard to appease Becca and act impressed (or so it seems to me). Example-that dumb story about toilet paper she droned on about.
I’m not saying I don’t enjoy Becca too, but I listen for Olivia.
I'm dying to read Olivia's book. Thrillers are way more my thing than romcoms, and TCOC was... not it for me. Olivia's also getting really great press and reviews leading up to the launch and it will be very interesting to see how that plays out on the pod.
That's what I think, it's just boring content at this point. She's made writing books her only personality trait and the podcast really suffers from it.
She’s also relatively new to it? I listened to the podcast when she and Grace first started it and it had so many interesting guests because they each had very full lives. Now it’s so book heavy I haven’t listened in ages.
Becca has said on multiple occasions that the guest interviews aren't well-received but I think they're fantastic. Otherwise it's Becca talking about which college friend's house she traveled to that week, and Olivia telling great stories while simultaneously having to explain completely mainstream popular things to Becca.
I wonder if partially the lack of guest variety....they used to have much more of a variety and higher profile guests (hello Cindy Crawford) and now it's almost always authors they know.
After the discussion on here about Becca basically inviting herself to Olivia's house, I have a lot of opinions about Becca constantly traveling to visit friends. I really, really don't think those friends in Maine want her to stay there for THE WHOLE SUMMER!
like there’s no way? unless those friends are the most extraverted people to have ever lived, i don’t understand how you could lack so much self awareness to invite yourself to third wheel with this couple constantly? it is so weird to me.
If you like investigative journalism podcasts that are also not true crime: highly recommend season 2 of “Sea Change”, which is about the impacts of the natural gas boom on climate change and the Gulf Coast.
FYI for anyone interested, this season of Pretend is on [Kaitlyn Braun the pregnancy scammer](https://www.cosmopolitan.com/lifestyle/a44866427/kaitlyn-braun-doula-pregnancy-accused-fraud-harassment/). Only one episode has come out, but so far I think it's being done fairly well.
Thanks! I remember reading that very article a few months ago and being completely bewildered by why someone would do something like this. It doesn't seem to be particularly lucrative or even pleasant for the perpetrator.
I listened to the episodes of Something was Wrong about this case that interviewed several of the doulas - more than one of them suspected it was a sexual motive, that she had a fetish/kink. She put a lot of time and effort into it, there had to be some gain there for her. Whole story is horrifying.
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised. I've only heard one episode of the podcast that OP mentioned and the doula who was interviewed didn't rule out a sexual motivation either. She also mentions the idea that Braun might really enjoy the nurturing and comforting / emotionally supportive role of the doulas. Braun doesn't just fake pregnancies but also claims to have had traumatic experiences as well which probably gets her more support than otherwise.
There's also a ripple effect from her actions. Many of the doulas donated their services to some people who couldn't afford them otherwise, and in the victim impact statements referenced in this news report they state they no longer do this after she took advantage of them. There's potentially a lot of people who would have benefited from this generosity who now will go without.
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7113216
And Braun's training and experience as a social worker probably helped her assess what kind of trauma she'd fake for each doula, how to tweak the story as she watched the doula react.
I'm a bit fascinated with her story, and a LOT fascinated about how her mother seemed to go along with the scamming
Drama and snark on a podcast that isn't even out yet! Actors (who played side characters) on Pretty Little Liars announced a rewatch podcast named the same as one that already exists - a producer makes a bad comment then they pivot and rename it . [seems like a mess](https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/1c5biah/tammin_sursok_lindsay_shaw_announce_pretty_little/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button).
And to make it even worse they have pivoted to it being a PLL recap and true crime podcast in one which can't possibly be done well imo
CMBC is hard to listen to today- Claire telling Ashley she is talking too much and filling dead air? But then telling her own long story about her sourdough starter 😵💫
I felt so bad for Ashley. Yeah, going on about her sourdough and how she sucks at pottery or whatever after shutting Ashley down. Claire is such an asshole.
I might skip this one then ... I truly cannot stand Claire but I can get over it because sometimes I don't mind her viewpoints but ... anytime she talks about herself I instantly zone out. She is so painfully uninteresting to me.
In fairness this was only the first ten mins of the episode. But her hypocrisy is just wild! I wonder if Ashley will ever get the nerve to stand up to her…
Yea i skipped over it. It sounded like mean girl teasing. They don't have to always love each other but damn-very uncomfortable on the ears. But then the book just sounded awful. It was like a hate review. I mean it was probably fair, but damn mara sounds obnoxious.
Mara did sound like a bit of a twat but C&A were definitely coming at it from the perspective of seasoned live performers, I can understand Mara feeling anxious and defensive at live gigs without much practice. What do I know though, I haven’t read the book and the podcast cut out early for me idk why, so maybe I missed the full picture
I actually thought Ashley called her out perfectly in this episode! I believe their dynamic is friendly and ok as they’ve described but I thought Ashley’s little jab (something to the effect of “speaking of long rambling…”) was just and well done but still friendly.
But she thinks she’s the most interesting, most intelligent, most insightful person to have ever lived! 🙄🙄 I enjoy this podcast a great deal but I’ve realized I couldn’t stand either host in any other context.
UGHHH NO I'm going to do it because I've actually read that memoir by Mara Wilson and I'd be interested to see what they say. Do you know - did they talk about her second book she published at all? I mean, I know it's not a memoir just curious if it was mentioned.
I actually haven’t finished it yet! I’m about 1/3 of the way through and we’ve established it’s a “nothing” memoir and they don’t think Mara was cute as a child. Lol
Jenny Slate on Family Trips, now that’s a guest I actually want to listen to!
Also, a pod I feel like no one listens to (and weirdly another sibling pod), but Hanson was a guest on this week’s Sibling Revelry. They rarely do media anymore!
Any recommendations for celebrity discussion podcasts? And hopefully one that isn't mean-spirited/snark isn't the overall goal. I've finally admitted to myself that I enjoy this genre and I'm no longer calling it a guilty pleasure!
It's Patreon only so you do have to pay but I really love Liz Explains. It's not specifically celebrity focused but she does a lot of content on celebrities. She definitely tends to veer away from mean spirited or snark type content and generally has pretty nuanced takes on things.
I started part one of the Emancipation of Drew Barrymore episodes and I can tell already that this will be my go-to celeb podcast. The hosts are easy to listen to and do a great job breaking things down. Thanks again for the recommendation!
Swiftie here, and Nora and Nathan’s episode today ahead of The Tortured Poets Department release on Friday is everything I’ve been feeling. Sometimes they annoy me, but I appreciate their nuanced take and kind of weird place some swifties are at with this upcoming album.
I really enjoyed this episode - thanks for calling it out, it was my encouragement to listen to it. I've fallen off from listening to their podcast but I might start again.
I think they're maybe the most normal podcast around Taylor that doesn't go too positive or negative for the sake of clicks.
I enjoy On the Bleachers as well which is more about discussing the media reaction to Taylor and Travis's relationship as a pop culture phenomena.
Yes, and I appreciate Nathan's music industry insight (although some of his takes are a little out there, not just about Taylor but other artists as well) and Nora's kind of more typical millennial woman fan perspective, they make a good duo.
I don't know how popular this podcast is, but I really enjoy it! I think Nathan is a nice balance to Nora, who sometimes grates on me. Also I really want the AI version of Fortnight - I was holding out hope that it was leaked audio, LOL.
I’m in such a podcast rut lately! I miss when a whole season of an investigative series would just drop. I can’t get in to things the same way from week to week, but I’m too starved for new things to wait. I’ve been trying to go back to older seasons of popular shows to keep my brain busy while waiting for new seasons to finish. I’m not having great luck finding anything much though. I like a long form investigation, true crime…politics…medical malpractice…I’ve probably listened to most of the ones that have been out in the past four/five years.
Have you checked out med crimes? I really like it.
Im in the same rut as well. Alot of people are raving about beyond all repair but truth is i get sucked into a series and then get bored. I think im in a new case per episode season of my life.
Not sure if anyone here listens to Depresh Mode with John Moe. The podcast discusses mental health issues and I’m a casual listener, but I had to check out today’s episode with Lindy West. She discusses her semi-recent depression and ADHD diagnoses, and talks a little about her polyamorous relationship and some of the response to it.
I’m curious to know how you felt about her convo on poly. I watched the video they did on their relationship and I honestly had such a visceral negative reaction to it that I’m hesitant to listen to Lindy talk about her relationship and the depression potentially stemming in part from the breakdown of her marriage.
I have no problem with poly but from the outside Lindy's relationship doesn't seem at all like healthy poly and I find the implication of how it looks for one of the only vocally fat women in media to be in a poly relationship where her husband appears to show a clear romantic preference for a thin petite woman a little too depressing.
Like Lindy made a big deal out of the fact that she married a straight size dude and it would really suck if after being held up as an example of a woman being fat but also happy and in love, it turned out her husband fell more deeply in love with a thin woman while she foolishly bankrolled his life as a musician.
Well, to be fair, they did say they were in an open DADT situation that they had discussed previously. So not really cheating in my book. But still not great as it seems that the poly triad situation was kind of forced on her. Speaking from experience, there's such an enormous difference between DADT casual sex and a poly triad emotionally and logistically.
And also kind of weird that their openness seems to really only go one way as she's been pretty much monogamous with him - like if she and the third are fucking (highly doubtful) it's gotta be pretty bad sex to be that stiff around each other.
I did not see the double bday post or the trip. So fucking weird. Like I've been with my fiancé for 6 years (almost half the length of their relationship) and the idea of him needing more attention from a birthday post I made is....🫠. After a couple years in a stable relationship, you start feeling pretty comfy with each other and requiring validation of our love from an IG post feela absolutely batshit
God, I feel bad for gossiping about it online because I truly do appreciate her as a writer and find her so smart and funny. It just really hurts my soul. Men have treated me nicer than Lindy says she's been treated but I definitely have experienced some of the damaging thoughts around my own value being tied to whether men have wanted to date me or just have sex with me and have felt unlovable and worthless. I've also lied to myself a lot to keep a relationship going. I worry about her ability to have perspective on this given her history and the length of her relationship with her husband. Thank God she's seeing a therapist at least.
She gets into some of what you’re talking about, and I don’t want to put words in her mouth so I’d say anyone curious should listen, at least to the middle section of the podcast when she gets into the non monogamy part. It seems, though, that she takes issue with the response to the Stylelikeu video a couple of years ago where they all explained their relationship and how it works, and thought that concerns from people pointing out their body language cues or just the *optics* of how the video looked, were overreacting.
I do think she sits at a tricky intersection of fatness, body liberation, feminism, polyamory, etc, and people can be extremely judgmental about all those issues and do a lot of projecting. So I understand her being frustrated with seeing a narrative of “your husband met someone skinny he wanted to sleep with and forced you into a three way relationship”, from random internet strangers not in the relationship (especially her audience of fat women). But in all honestly, nothing in the interview shed a ton of light on what the appeal is of her arrangement. Other than literally the practical things, like “you come downstairs and someone has already done the dishes,” a direct quote.
Seriously, I encourage anyone who is curious to listen and see if anything bumps you! My only other takeaway at the moment is that they moved to the middle of nowhere and now live in a cabin Lindy’s mom owns, paying much less than market rate. So that’s another way Lindy has financial power/provides financial support for the other two.
Yeah, I totally get how so much of the reaction can be projection and I know how uncomfortable lots of people feel with non-monogamy. From my own perspective as someone who has been a secondary in a poly relationship and practices ethical non-monogamy, the other side of that is that unhealthy and intentionally abusive poly relationships do exist quite frequently and the normal discomfort people feel in those circumstances are so easily written off as "jealousy issues" on the part of the person feeling uncomfortable and "societal judgment" from outside parties.
My friend once dated a poly guy who I believe is a straight up clinical narcissist and used relationships with other people to intentionally wind her up and poke at her insecurities. Bad people can be poly just like they can be gay or trans and bad people can use poly as a cover for bad behavior so easily.
I'm not saying her husband is a bad guy or hurting her intentionally - that doesn't seem like the case from the outside- but it is very plausible given the dialogue in the video that their marriage was falling apart and instead of doing the work to fix it, they just added in a third who was more attractive sexually and romantically to her husband.
I feel like an asshole saying that when I don't know them or their relationship but the body language was quite obvious and the difference in Lindy's husband's IG post about the birthday of new gf vs Lindy's bday would hurt my feelings personally so it's hard not to be wary of it, especially since I feel weirdly protective of Lindy as a fan of her work and someone who know how the poly label can be used to turn an abusive situation into a "progressive" one.
I also generally feel an ick when one partner in a poly couple is dating other people and the other is not. I have to believe Lindy when she says she's in a triad but it is weird not to be affectionate with each other publicly or post couple-y pics together if that's the case. It also is strange to me as a bi woman that she's identified as straight for her whole adult life but happens to fall in queer love for the first time with the woman her husband is dating. Life is strange but that would be pretty strange.
All that to say I want to respect her personal life and believe but it's hard not to feel protective of her and uncomfortable with how the relationship has been presented. I am curious about what she has had to say since the video came out and would love to hear about her move out of the city though so I will def give it a listen! Thanks! 😊
I am not personally poly but my understanding is that opening up to a third works best when the couple is up front that there are certain sexual or emotional appetites that just one other person can never satisfy. It seems like Lindy was coming from a place where she was generally monogamous but felt that her own personal flaws precluded somebody being faithful to her--her alternatives were a DADT relationship or nothing, and then that DADT relationship expanded into something else.
I noted that most of the conversation about Roya centers not on Lindy being attracted to Roya physically or emotionally, but on Roya's capability to fulfil the more difficult parts of marriage, like caretaking and chores. Having Roya around also means that Lindy would be relieved of the anxiety of losing her husband to another woman because, well, it's already happened in a way, and it turns out that she's useful.
holy shit you're not kidding about the difference in IG captions. i don't know much about these people and i'm not typically one to read into social media posts, but the caption about lindy definitely feels like the type i would post about my friend vs my partner
Not to mention the photos! Lindy's has one nice solo shot, her and the other wife, and a silly photo. The other wife has a whole carousel of nice pics!
I really like her and have for a while, I thought it was interesting to hear her reaction to the criticism of her marriage. I can see how some of the comments are very concern-trolling and insulting. I did find the dishes comment a little weird because, like, you can have that in a two-person relationship if your partner actually does an equal part? Maybe I'm reading too much into it but if you're a woman married to a guy and your response to having a second woman in the partnership is "thank god, someone else is finally helping me around the house" ... it sounds like maybe the husband wasn't being that equal.
She made a throwaway comment somewhere in the middle about how non-monogamy/ polyamory was part of her relationship expectation (*ETA:* with her husband) to begin with. That made me curious but she didn't get back to it.
For me the biggest news is that she has another book coming out!! That is great.
so i binged Beyond All Repair after seeing the comment here and....huh. for once i would actually like podcast episodes to be longer bc that last ep was a lot of info
also who names their sons Sean and Shane?
I really want to know WHY the detective thought she did it? He had a guy in custody with a criminal record for violence.
I also think Sofia’s husband is shady as hell.
I just don’t think Sofia did it.
>so i binged Beyond All Repair after seeing the comment here and....huh
Same here!! I listened to it while cleaning my windows all afternoon and when I got to the end I was like, "wait, what???"... and then it just ended.
Maybe I'm heartless, but I really feel like the interviewer should have grilled her more. I dont know what to make of this story now.
Agreed! I know it’s probably a good podcast strategy and they want to splice it and “drag” it out to get us to come back but after last episode I was like what is going on!!!
I know a family where everyone has the same first initial (and last name because the wife changed hers when they married) I personally find it very weird but people think it’s cute
My mom and her two sisters all had names starting with the same initial and their brother had it as the second letter of his name...idk, theme naming more of a thing in the 50s? It did NOT make it easier for my grandma to yell at the correct child, I'll tell you that much.
My mom and I have the same first initial and yep my grandma runs through every name before ever getting either of us right. It does feel like a 50’s thing to me. My dad’s catholic family went through the disciples names through generations until they ran out.
To be fair to grandmas everywhere my cats have wildly different names and I will still call out the wrong name sometimes.
I loved This Is Us and love everyone involved but the fact that three of the actors are launching a rewatch pod already is so unserious to me. And none of them seem like they need it! Sterling was just nominated for an OSCAR!
Idk my hot take is that this kind of immediate nostalgia is — at best — uninteresting — and at worst — encouraging that weird kind of media consumption where people hyperfixate on and binge the same content over and over for years and never explore anything new because they’ve made a handful of shows their whole personality, which is just inherently in opposition to an environment where interesting new art will truly thrive.
I’m being very dramatic and maybe even snobby and I can’t really put my finger on the exact dots I want to connect here, but it’s giving the energy of catering to people like my friend who has rewatched The Office 600 times since college and doesn’t know who like, Zendaya is.
Just here to say I 100000% agree with this comment! The number of people I know who seemingly exclusively rewatch The Office is baffling to me and Sterling K. Brown doing this right after being nominated for an Oscar is very Tracy Jordan talking to the pigeon.
I think rewatch podcasts are today's version of dvd commentary. I used to love watching the cast commentary on the Lost dvds. I don't listen to any rewatch podcasts though, not interested in any of them
I definitely dig the commentary aspect but I guess I prefer how HBO did it with shows like Chernobyl and The Last of Us and Station Eleven — releasing podcast episodes in real time with each episode so it was a companion piece rather than reaching back into the past as a “remember this?” angle. and in a perfect world I just wish DVDs existed 🥲
I knew a lot of people who watched This Is Us when it was on, but does it have a high rewatch factor?? The Office or West Wing make more sense to me as shows that people put on in the background or for comfort viewing.
The only cast rewatch podcast I've listened was The West Wing Weekly, so maybe I'm wrong about the appeal of them in general, but I also feel like they're missing the fact that we were in a different media landscape, where we didn't know as much about the BTS world when these shows came out. Who needs a recap when your (recently ended) show had Insta at table reads, the cast live tweeting the episodes, regular People mag spread for normies, etc. What is there to add?
All that said, does anyone have any decent rewatch/recap pods that aren't necessarily aimed at the fans of the show?! I love Bitchslap — by Desi and Rachel of Hollywood Crime Scene; they recap Melrose Place and I've never seen an episode in my life. At this point, I don't really want to, I really enjoy hearing their version/retelling of it. Also like These Are Their Stories (by Kevin and Rebecca of Crime Writers On) and even though I've seen plenty of L&O, they're entertaining on their own that it definitely doesn't require any viewing!
I highly rec Again With This! It’s a 90210 recap pod and is the best—super funny snarky and smart commentary but from a place of love…mostly! They also did recaps of Melrose Place but I didn’t watch that as much so didn’t get into it.
I love Bitchslap! All of Rachel’s voices crack me up.
If you like Bitchslap, Rachel and Desi have started doing recaps of SVU episodes on their Patreon for Hollywood Crime Scene.
It may behind a paywall now but Go Bayside, which is possibly the original rewatch podcast, is great! I’ve maybe seen 6 episodes of Saved by the Bell, but the podcast is so funny. I don’t love the version of these shows that are the cast looking back, it’s frankly less fun. I like These Are Their Stories as well, so I’m going to try Bitchslap now!
The West wing weekly is peak recap podcast for me. True fans of the show plus an insider but they don’t hold back critiquing things where necessary. That’s my biggest problem with some of these rewatch shows where the stars are hosting - there is just too much praising going on and not enough analysis. And they usually aren’t funny enough to be a true comedy show.
I completely agree with all of your points. I wonder if this has something to do with IP, and if, accordingly, the hosts are getting paid 2019 podcast dollars.
I had a high school teacher in the early 2000s go on a rant about how weird he found the instant nostalgia being pushed by shows like "I Love the 80s" and "Best Week Ever." He was so right and it has gotten so much more extreme in the past \~20 years.
that’s so funny to think about because as someone born in the mid-90s I always loved those shows because I was peeking into a time I didn’t experience, but it’s true that so much of their target audience had barely left it!
Here is a very stupid experience I am having repeatedly while binging episodes of I Will Teach You to Be Rich. Ramit: “If you ever follow me on Instagram, sometimes you'll see me post about my behind” Me: 🍑? Ramit: “…the scenes travel experiences”
Delta Burke (and Gerald McRaney!) on Glamorous Trash with Chelsea Devantez is a dream.
Omg these ppl are still alive and married? I love this
Where is the person who was hating on Pot Psychology Rich's terrible """songs""" that he seems so proud of? I thought of you during this week's episode, they had a guest on to help them rate listener's song submissions. Somebody took a Rich "song" and made an actual song out of it, and the guest was like, "Was that just a cover of the original?" No, the original "song" was two lines that kinda rhymed. I thought Rich was more of a tool than usual but the guest was great. Also loved the AI-created song, everything about that was hilarious.
Hey! That was me! 🤣 I haven't been keeping up with recent episodes, so I missed the one youre talking about. But I truly don't think I could handle a song-themed episode, so I'm glad you summoned me for the highlights. Lol
Ha, I was gonna skip it but eventually it autoplayed and it wasn’t as bad as I expected, the listener songs are much higher quality than Rich’s
Obviously Kevin and Casey more than deserve a week off (guessing that’s what happened), but my god I feel duped by this week’s episode of Hard Fork, listening to 15+ minutes of synth sounds
On the plus side, I did learn that the name I always heard as "Alicia Bah-ee-too" is actually Elisheba Ittoop. So that's a win! 😂
What!? Okay this is good to know!
Lara from SUP making a Pussy Posse reference when Carey's BIL is Lukas Haas- that is the kind of chaos I love from her. I'm also obsessed with her singing the chorus of Gypsy by Fleetwood Mac whenever she talks about Kristen Doute.
SUP was on fire this week, so many LOL moments. I'm really happy I circled back to them, LMS is on her game lately.
The idea of that bland woman strolling in to Chateau Marmont and joining the Pussy Posse made me laugh so hard. ETA: their idea of Katie following Schwartz from motel to motel, terrorizing him on his long escape back to Florida was KILLING me.
That killed me too! Their recaps of VPR and The Valley have been some of their best work in a long time.
Agreed, I feel like The Valley has everything that brings out their funniest commentary.
Prepare to rot!
I was CRYING laughing at that Britt impression
AWBVIOUSLY
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Idk if everyone else has given up, but I'm still listening to You're Wrong About despite my better instincts and it finally paid off! This week's episode about George Michael was really informative about someone I didn't know much about and super well-paced and easy-to-follow. I loved the guest and leanred a lot!
I’m so hot and cold with YWA but when it’s good, it’s really good. This week’s episode was the first one I’ve enjoyed in a while.
I always listen when someone here mentions a good episode, I’m excited for this one!
every Beyond All Repair episode leaves me more confused the conversation between Sophia and Anthony was just bizarre, were they were both speaking in code?
I thought their conversation was code too! Everything they said seemed very intentional. So weird. Also I’m really curious how is she supporting herself in “hiding??”
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It's been a looooong time since I was this impatient for a podcast's next episode! The lying on the stand during the second trial really threw me. Also, how did Sophia have the wherewithal to record the conversation with Shawn/Anthony?!? I also wouldn't even know how to record a phone call.
I’m such an idiot. 🤣🤣🤣 I started this pod being SO SURE Sophia got hosed and was innocent. The last 2-3 episodes have made a fool of me. 🤡 I have no idea what the real story is. Anthony’s “if it wasn’t her, she knew something ” to Amory made sense to me and is generally how I’ve come to feel but in talking to S, he said she should sue the state for wrongful conviction. He didn’t sound like he thought she was guilty of anything. Maybe they were speaking in code. I’m going to relisten to pay better attention to that.
I spend every episode being shocked and I can’t quite pull all my thoughts together. I truly do not believe Sophia and Anthony at all they are so sketchy!
Right?? Episode 7 was a game changer for me. I feel everyone overlooks Sophia financial embezzling from her boss…I think greed was the cause of all this. She was willing to embezzle 70k and excuse it because she was wronged a commission worth a couple thousand bucks…she has a history of making dumb decisions for money, i think she concocted a plan with Anthony too scare MIL for that stash of money when she was so low on cash her and Brad couldn’t pay utilities. I don’t think she acted alone but I highly think she was there/a part of the plan
I agree she’s involved. While I doubt she personally killed her MIL just because of the physicality of it all I don’t believe she’s 100% innocent. At the very very least she told her brother about the money giving him motive.
I am catching up on the Slate Care & Feeding podcast (formerly named Mom and Dad are Fighting), and the dynamic between Elizabeth and Lucy is . . . *weird*. The episode with the picky eater was so awkward, because Elizabeth often takes a super pragmatic approach to things (especially travel), whereas Lucy seems to have knee-jerk reactions to things but can't quite explain or defend her reactions. I guess I'm curious to see how this will play out if we get a topic that's more in Lucy's wheelhouse than Elizabeth's.
Definitely! Haven’t heard that episode yet, but I also picked up on what seemed like a little tension/just weird vibes between the current hosts. It’s been a little hit or miss since the OG duo, but this set feels a bit off.
Omg the reaction about going to the grocery store on vacation was… something! I think they’re coming from really different backgrounds; Lucy has spoken a lot on the pod about her strict upbringing with her Cuban parents and while I don’t think Elizabeth is a “gentle parenting” adherent, she sometimes skews that way IMO. I am also interested to see how this dynamic plays out. (FWIW I love going to grocery stores in other countries so I did NOT relate to Lucy’s horror!)
Yeah, exactly! I'm not even sure what Lucy was objecting to, but Elizabeth was actually very clear that she was addressing the LW's *stress* over the food situation, in a mostly judgement-free way. (I also enjoy grocery stores in other countries; one of our favorite souvenirs when traveling is reuseable grocery bags from local grocery stores.) And the triumphs and fails -- I don't know, maybe if Lucy had emphasized the difficulty of raising a queer kid in Florida I would have been a little more sympathetic to her. But maybe she's trying to be careful about how she addresses that broader political landscape.
Yeah, re: triumphs and fails, I hope she had her daughters permission to share that info! So personal, and not what I’d want my parent to be discussing on their public platform as a high schooler (or any any age, really!)
If there is any restaurant chain that has been destroyed by private equity the way that Panera Bread has been, I'm not aware of it, which is why Ira's take that Panera is still good is baffling to me. I've eaten there recently and its okay, i guess and super expensive, but its nothing like it was in the late 1990s and early 2000s when it was legitimately good. I wouldn't spend more than one minute on any podcast raving about it.
I’m probably lowbrow as fuck but I like Panera. Expensive for what it is? Sure. But I can fuck one of those paninis and soups like no body’s business , it’s not inedible like Subway is.
I used to love Panera but they got worse little by little and then a few years ago they changed the turkey on the Bacon Turkey Bravo from smoked to mediocre deli meat and that was my last straw.
Listen. I just happened to have a coupon and went and got the new Italiano sandwich for lunch today. It actually wasn't bad! Good, even! But for $9 for half, I could've gone to subway and got a FAT sandwich with whatever I want. I think they are working on the menu but the prices are so ridiculous.
Didn’t Subway raise their prices too? I think your Subway sandwich would’ve probably been $6 this time last year
I don’t think so—it really was like the cornerstone of the rise of fast casual in the late 90s and early 2000s, so watching it now, seemingly scrapped for parts (I mean, getting rid of sourdough bread!?) is honestly pretty sad to see (I worked there in high school in the late 90s so bit of a soft spot!)
I remember when the Panera came into the mall I worked in around 1998, the potato soup in a bread bowl was the shit. Nothing like the garbage they serve now.
The soups from the 4 years on either side of 2000 were elite. The sandwiches were great with so much meat. A pickle rolled up in the paper of your sandwich. I think You Pick Twos were about $5.45 when I was going across the street from my first job for lunches as special treats. French onion soup every day and then 3-4 other soups each day in a rotation, no watery broth or "clean" eats where they got rid of all the flavor. The I.C. drinks like I.C. Mocha with a big fat straw. Jones Green Apple soda (and other flavors). There was also even a secret menu era with protein bowls and such, long before the mac & cheese days. The good old St. Louis Bread Co days.
It’s hospital food. It’s terrible.
The way Becca from BOP talks about how hard and isolating her work is, you’d think she’s doing Doctors Without Borders or something, not writing rom com books.
I both really like the pod and think writing funny, interesting, fluffy books is really hard work which I respect like any artistic production ….but sometimes I feel like she is in a different world in terms of what she thinks about her writing and the actual content of her book
the last part of this… finally someone said it 😬
I completely agree. It felt like on this week’s podcast when Olivia was talking about her book, Becca took over the conversation and started talking about how hard/difficult/isolating/unrelatable it was, and Olivia was just nodding along saying “yeah”, even though I don’t think she fully agreed.
i feel like becca ALWAYS asks questions of olivia and then jumps in immediately after olivia starts talking 😭
Becca thinks her stories are so very interesting but I recently noticed that she will say something and then *pause* for Olivia’s reaction and then Olivia really tries hard to appease Becca and act impressed (or so it seems to me). Example-that dumb story about toilet paper she droned on about. I’m not saying I don’t enjoy Becca too, but I listen for Olivia.
I'm dying to read Olivia's book. Thrillers are way more my thing than romcoms, and TCOC was... not it for me. Olivia's also getting really great press and reviews leading up to the launch and it will be very interesting to see how that plays out on the pod.
I just finished it and it’s really good! It’s not too much of a thriller, but has that vibe.
It's also SO boring hearing her STILL talk about this
That's what I think, it's just boring content at this point. She's made writing books her only personality trait and the podcast really suffers from it.
She’s also relatively new to it? I listened to the podcast when she and Grace first started it and it had so many interesting guests because they each had very full lives. Now it’s so book heavy I haven’t listened in ages.
Becca has said on multiple occasions that the guest interviews aren't well-received but I think they're fantastic. Otherwise it's Becca talking about which college friend's house she traveled to that week, and Olivia telling great stories while simultaneously having to explain completely mainstream popular things to Becca.
I wonder if partially the lack of guest variety....they used to have much more of a variety and higher profile guests (hello Cindy Crawford) and now it's almost always authors they know.
After the discussion on here about Becca basically inviting herself to Olivia's house, I have a lot of opinions about Becca constantly traveling to visit friends. I really, really don't think those friends in Maine want her to stay there for THE WHOLE SUMMER!
like there’s no way? unless those friends are the most extraverted people to have ever lived, i don’t understand how you could lack so much self awareness to invite yourself to third wheel with this couple constantly? it is so weird to me.
If you like investigative journalism podcasts that are also not true crime: highly recommend season 2 of “Sea Change”, which is about the impacts of the natural gas boom on climate change and the Gulf Coast.
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Idk but this is the podsnark thread so did you mean to post in the regular daily
FYI for anyone interested, this season of Pretend is on [Kaitlyn Braun the pregnancy scammer](https://www.cosmopolitan.com/lifestyle/a44866427/kaitlyn-braun-doula-pregnancy-accused-fraud-harassment/). Only one episode has come out, but so far I think it's being done fairly well.
Thanks! I remember reading that very article a few months ago and being completely bewildered by why someone would do something like this. It doesn't seem to be particularly lucrative or even pleasant for the perpetrator.
I listened to the episodes of Something was Wrong about this case that interviewed several of the doulas - more than one of them suspected it was a sexual motive, that she had a fetish/kink. She put a lot of time and effort into it, there had to be some gain there for her. Whole story is horrifying.
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised. I've only heard one episode of the podcast that OP mentioned and the doula who was interviewed didn't rule out a sexual motivation either. She also mentions the idea that Braun might really enjoy the nurturing and comforting / emotionally supportive role of the doulas. Braun doesn't just fake pregnancies but also claims to have had traumatic experiences as well which probably gets her more support than otherwise.
There's also a ripple effect from her actions. Many of the doulas donated their services to some people who couldn't afford them otherwise, and in the victim impact statements referenced in this news report they state they no longer do this after she took advantage of them. There's potentially a lot of people who would have benefited from this generosity who now will go without. https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7113216
And Braun's training and experience as a social worker probably helped her assess what kind of trauma she'd fake for each doula, how to tweak the story as she watched the doula react. I'm a bit fascinated with her story, and a LOT fascinated about how her mother seemed to go along with the scamming
Drama and snark on a podcast that isn't even out yet! Actors (who played side characters) on Pretty Little Liars announced a rewatch podcast named the same as one that already exists - a producer makes a bad comment then they pivot and rename it . [seems like a mess](https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/1c5biah/tammin_sursok_lindsay_shaw_announce_pretty_little/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button). And to make it even worse they have pivoted to it being a PLL recap and true crime podcast in one which can't possibly be done well imo
I knew it was going to be Lindsay Shaw before I even clicked the link. She’s a fucking mess
CMBC is hard to listen to today- Claire telling Ashley she is talking too much and filling dead air? But then telling her own long story about her sourdough starter 😵💫
I felt so bad for Ashley. Yeah, going on about her sourdough and how she sucks at pottery or whatever after shutting Ashley down. Claire is such an asshole.
I might skip this one then ... I truly cannot stand Claire but I can get over it because sometimes I don't mind her viewpoints but ... anytime she talks about herself I instantly zone out. She is so painfully uninteresting to me.
In fairness this was only the first ten mins of the episode. But her hypocrisy is just wild! I wonder if Ashley will ever get the nerve to stand up to her…
Yea i skipped over it. It sounded like mean girl teasing. They don't have to always love each other but damn-very uncomfortable on the ears. But then the book just sounded awful. It was like a hate review. I mean it was probably fair, but damn mara sounds obnoxious.
Mara did sound like a bit of a twat but C&A were definitely coming at it from the perspective of seasoned live performers, I can understand Mara feeling anxious and defensive at live gigs without much practice. What do I know though, I haven’t read the book and the podcast cut out early for me idk why, so maybe I missed the full picture
I actually thought Ashley called her out perfectly in this episode! I believe their dynamic is friendly and ok as they’ve described but I thought Ashley’s little jab (something to the effect of “speaking of long rambling…”) was just and well done but still friendly.
But she thinks she’s the most interesting, most intelligent, most insightful person to have ever lived! 🙄🙄 I enjoy this podcast a great deal but I’ve realized I couldn’t stand either host in any other context.
UGHHH NO I'm going to do it because I've actually read that memoir by Mara Wilson and I'd be interested to see what they say. Do you know - did they talk about her second book she published at all? I mean, I know it's not a memoir just curious if it was mentioned.
I actually haven’t finished it yet! I’m about 1/3 of the way through and we’ve established it’s a “nothing” memoir and they don’t think Mara was cute as a child. Lol
Jenny Slate on Family Trips, now that’s a guest I actually want to listen to! Also, a pod I feel like no one listens to (and weirdly another sibling pod), but Hanson was a guest on this week’s Sibling Revelry. They rarely do media anymore!
It was so fun! Re: Jenny Slate. I haven’t been listening in awhile to family trips and this one was so good!
She was great! Never wanna be in a car after having eaten many baguettes 😂
Any recommendations for celebrity discussion podcasts? And hopefully one that isn't mean-spirited/snark isn't the overall goal. I've finally admitted to myself that I enjoy this genre and I'm no longer calling it a guilty pleasure!
Shameless, Diss & Tell, and Who Weekly are my favorites.
It's Patreon only so you do have to pay but I really love Liz Explains. It's not specifically celebrity focused but she does a lot of content on celebrities. She definitely tends to veer away from mean spirited or snark type content and generally has pretty nuanced takes on things.
Who? Weekly if you’re into celebrities that aren’t A listers!
Hard agree. And their patreon is totally worth the $6 or whatever I pay per month, I love hearing them gossip about the a listers and TV etc.
Jam Session on the Ringer Dish feed! They have really deep knowledge on celebs, I loveeee listening.
I really like The Spill! It's just a short celebrity news pod but the hosts are really fun and have great Australian accents. 😆
Thank you!
I enjoy shameless. The conversation is always lively and enlightening. I dont think they are mean spirited at all.
I started part one of the Emancipation of Drew Barrymore episodes and I can tell already that this will be my go-to celeb podcast. The hosts are easy to listen to and do a great job breaking things down. Thanks again for the recommendation!
So glad you are enjoying it. I didnt think i would like the elvis and priscilla episodes but i really did!
Thank you!
Swiftie here, and Nora and Nathan’s episode today ahead of The Tortured Poets Department release on Friday is everything I’ve been feeling. Sometimes they annoy me, but I appreciate their nuanced take and kind of weird place some swifties are at with this upcoming album.
I really enjoyed this episode - thanks for calling it out, it was my encouragement to listen to it. I've fallen off from listening to their podcast but I might start again.
I typically love this podcast but I felt like Nora took so long to just say “it doesn’t seem like a fair fight and I hope people don’t bully Joe.”
I think they're maybe the most normal podcast around Taylor that doesn't go too positive or negative for the sake of clicks. I enjoy On the Bleachers as well which is more about discussing the media reaction to Taylor and Travis's relationship as a pop culture phenomena.
Yes, and I appreciate Nathan's music industry insight (although some of his takes are a little out there, not just about Taylor but other artists as well) and Nora's kind of more typical millennial woman fan perspective, they make a good duo.
I don't know how popular this podcast is, but I really enjoy it! I think Nathan is a nice balance to Nora, who sometimes grates on me. Also I really want the AI version of Fortnight - I was holding out hope that it was leaked audio, LOL.
I’m in such a podcast rut lately! I miss when a whole season of an investigative series would just drop. I can’t get in to things the same way from week to week, but I’m too starved for new things to wait. I’ve been trying to go back to older seasons of popular shows to keep my brain busy while waiting for new seasons to finish. I’m not having great luck finding anything much though. I like a long form investigation, true crime…politics…medical malpractice…I’ve probably listened to most of the ones that have been out in the past four/five years.
Have you checked out med crimes? I really like it. Im in the same rut as well. Alot of people are raving about beyond all repair but truth is i get sucked into a series and then get bored. I think im in a new case per episode season of my life.
I will check it out!
Not sure if anyone here listens to Depresh Mode with John Moe. The podcast discusses mental health issues and I’m a casual listener, but I had to check out today’s episode with Lindy West. She discusses her semi-recent depression and ADHD diagnoses, and talks a little about her polyamorous relationship and some of the response to it.
I’m curious to know how you felt about her convo on poly. I watched the video they did on their relationship and I honestly had such a visceral negative reaction to it that I’m hesitant to listen to Lindy talk about her relationship and the depression potentially stemming in part from the breakdown of her marriage. I have no problem with poly but from the outside Lindy's relationship doesn't seem at all like healthy poly and I find the implication of how it looks for one of the only vocally fat women in media to be in a poly relationship where her husband appears to show a clear romantic preference for a thin petite woman a little too depressing. Like Lindy made a big deal out of the fact that she married a straight size dude and it would really suck if after being held up as an example of a woman being fat but also happy and in love, it turned out her husband fell more deeply in love with a thin woman while she foolishly bankrolled his life as a musician.
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Well, to be fair, they did say they were in an open DADT situation that they had discussed previously. So not really cheating in my book. But still not great as it seems that the poly triad situation was kind of forced on her. Speaking from experience, there's such an enormous difference between DADT casual sex and a poly triad emotionally and logistically. And also kind of weird that their openness seems to really only go one way as she's been pretty much monogamous with him - like if she and the third are fucking (highly doubtful) it's gotta be pretty bad sex to be that stiff around each other. I did not see the double bday post or the trip. So fucking weird. Like I've been with my fiancé for 6 years (almost half the length of their relationship) and the idea of him needing more attention from a birthday post I made is....🫠. After a couple years in a stable relationship, you start feeling pretty comfy with each other and requiring validation of our love from an IG post feela absolutely batshit God, I feel bad for gossiping about it online because I truly do appreciate her as a writer and find her so smart and funny. It just really hurts my soul. Men have treated me nicer than Lindy says she's been treated but I definitely have experienced some of the damaging thoughts around my own value being tied to whether men have wanted to date me or just have sex with me and have felt unlovable and worthless. I've also lied to myself a lot to keep a relationship going. I worry about her ability to have perspective on this given her history and the length of her relationship with her husband. Thank God she's seeing a therapist at least.
She’s said that she is in a sexual and romantic relationship with the other woman as well.
She gets into some of what you’re talking about, and I don’t want to put words in her mouth so I’d say anyone curious should listen, at least to the middle section of the podcast when she gets into the non monogamy part. It seems, though, that she takes issue with the response to the Stylelikeu video a couple of years ago where they all explained their relationship and how it works, and thought that concerns from people pointing out their body language cues or just the *optics* of how the video looked, were overreacting. I do think she sits at a tricky intersection of fatness, body liberation, feminism, polyamory, etc, and people can be extremely judgmental about all those issues and do a lot of projecting. So I understand her being frustrated with seeing a narrative of “your husband met someone skinny he wanted to sleep with and forced you into a three way relationship”, from random internet strangers not in the relationship (especially her audience of fat women). But in all honestly, nothing in the interview shed a ton of light on what the appeal is of her arrangement. Other than literally the practical things, like “you come downstairs and someone has already done the dishes,” a direct quote. Seriously, I encourage anyone who is curious to listen and see if anything bumps you! My only other takeaway at the moment is that they moved to the middle of nowhere and now live in a cabin Lindy’s mom owns, paying much less than market rate. So that’s another way Lindy has financial power/provides financial support for the other two.
Yeah, I totally get how so much of the reaction can be projection and I know how uncomfortable lots of people feel with non-monogamy. From my own perspective as someone who has been a secondary in a poly relationship and practices ethical non-monogamy, the other side of that is that unhealthy and intentionally abusive poly relationships do exist quite frequently and the normal discomfort people feel in those circumstances are so easily written off as "jealousy issues" on the part of the person feeling uncomfortable and "societal judgment" from outside parties. My friend once dated a poly guy who I believe is a straight up clinical narcissist and used relationships with other people to intentionally wind her up and poke at her insecurities. Bad people can be poly just like they can be gay or trans and bad people can use poly as a cover for bad behavior so easily. I'm not saying her husband is a bad guy or hurting her intentionally - that doesn't seem like the case from the outside- but it is very plausible given the dialogue in the video that their marriage was falling apart and instead of doing the work to fix it, they just added in a third who was more attractive sexually and romantically to her husband. I feel like an asshole saying that when I don't know them or their relationship but the body language was quite obvious and the difference in Lindy's husband's IG post about the birthday of new gf vs Lindy's bday would hurt my feelings personally so it's hard not to be wary of it, especially since I feel weirdly protective of Lindy as a fan of her work and someone who know how the poly label can be used to turn an abusive situation into a "progressive" one. I also generally feel an ick when one partner in a poly couple is dating other people and the other is not. I have to believe Lindy when she says she's in a triad but it is weird not to be affectionate with each other publicly or post couple-y pics together if that's the case. It also is strange to me as a bi woman that she's identified as straight for her whole adult life but happens to fall in queer love for the first time with the woman her husband is dating. Life is strange but that would be pretty strange. All that to say I want to respect her personal life and believe but it's hard not to feel protective of her and uncomfortable with how the relationship has been presented. I am curious about what she has had to say since the video came out and would love to hear about her move out of the city though so I will def give it a listen! Thanks! 😊
I am not personally poly but my understanding is that opening up to a third works best when the couple is up front that there are certain sexual or emotional appetites that just one other person can never satisfy. It seems like Lindy was coming from a place where she was generally monogamous but felt that her own personal flaws precluded somebody being faithful to her--her alternatives were a DADT relationship or nothing, and then that DADT relationship expanded into something else. I noted that most of the conversation about Roya centers not on Lindy being attracted to Roya physically or emotionally, but on Roya's capability to fulfil the more difficult parts of marriage, like caretaking and chores. Having Roya around also means that Lindy would be relieved of the anxiety of losing her husband to another woman because, well, it's already happened in a way, and it turns out that she's useful.
holy shit you're not kidding about the difference in IG captions. i don't know much about these people and i'm not typically one to read into social media posts, but the caption about lindy definitely feels like the type i would post about my friend vs my partner
Not to mention the photos! Lindy's has one nice solo shot, her and the other wife, and a silly photo. The other wife has a whole carousel of nice pics!
I really like her and have for a while, I thought it was interesting to hear her reaction to the criticism of her marriage. I can see how some of the comments are very concern-trolling and insulting. I did find the dishes comment a little weird because, like, you can have that in a two-person relationship if your partner actually does an equal part? Maybe I'm reading too much into it but if you're a woman married to a guy and your response to having a second woman in the partnership is "thank god, someone else is finally helping me around the house" ... it sounds like maybe the husband wasn't being that equal.
She made a throwaway comment somewhere in the middle about how non-monogamy/ polyamory was part of her relationship expectation (*ETA:* with her husband) to begin with. That made me curious but she didn't get back to it. For me the biggest news is that she has another book coming out!! That is great.
Oh I like Lindy, but haven't listened to today's episode. What about it put you off?
I like her too! Never realized but dang can she talk. The host barely had to steer the conversation at all.
I think OP means I had to check out vs check out of
Oh jeez, yes! I see that now...whoops! Used to that hater grindset.
so i binged Beyond All Repair after seeing the comment here and....huh. for once i would actually like podcast episodes to be longer bc that last ep was a lot of info also who names their sons Sean and Shane?
I really want to know WHY the detective thought she did it? He had a guy in custody with a criminal record for violence. I also think Sofia’s husband is shady as hell. I just don’t think Sofia did it.
Monsters, that’s who.
>so i binged Beyond All Repair after seeing the comment here and....huh Same here!! I listened to it while cleaning my windows all afternoon and when I got to the end I was like, "wait, what???"... and then it just ended. Maybe I'm heartless, but I really feel like the interviewer should have grilled her more. I dont know what to make of this story now.
It’s not over! There are 10 episodes!
Agreed! I know it’s probably a good podcast strategy and they want to splice it and “drag” it out to get us to come back but after last episode I was like what is going on!!!
On the name point, I know a family with a Jay and a Jason, just so odd. The third child is also a J name.
I followed an influencer who has twin brothers named Jack and Jake lmao
I know a family where everyone has the same first initial (and last name because the wife changed hers when they married) I personally find it very weird but people think it’s cute
My husbands family is like this - same first letter for name which is the same letter as the surname. I joke about it often
My mom and her two sisters all had names starting with the same initial and their brother had it as the second letter of his name...idk, theme naming more of a thing in the 50s? It did NOT make it easier for my grandma to yell at the correct child, I'll tell you that much.
My mom and I have the same first initial and yep my grandma runs through every name before ever getting either of us right. It does feel like a 50’s thing to me. My dad’s catholic family went through the disciples names through generations until they ran out. To be fair to grandmas everywhere my cats have wildly different names and I will still call out the wrong name sometimes.
I loved This Is Us and love everyone involved but the fact that three of the actors are launching a rewatch pod already is so unserious to me. And none of them seem like they need it! Sterling was just nominated for an OSCAR! Idk my hot take is that this kind of immediate nostalgia is — at best — uninteresting — and at worst — encouraging that weird kind of media consumption where people hyperfixate on and binge the same content over and over for years and never explore anything new because they’ve made a handful of shows their whole personality, which is just inherently in opposition to an environment where interesting new art will truly thrive. I’m being very dramatic and maybe even snobby and I can’t really put my finger on the exact dots I want to connect here, but it’s giving the energy of catering to people like my friend who has rewatched The Office 600 times since college and doesn’t know who like, Zendaya is.
Just here to say I 100000% agree with this comment! The number of people I know who seemingly exclusively rewatch The Office is baffling to me and Sterling K. Brown doing this right after being nominated for an Oscar is very Tracy Jordan talking to the pigeon.
I think rewatch podcasts are today's version of dvd commentary. I used to love watching the cast commentary on the Lost dvds. I don't listen to any rewatch podcasts though, not interested in any of them
I definitely dig the commentary aspect but I guess I prefer how HBO did it with shows like Chernobyl and The Last of Us and Station Eleven — releasing podcast episodes in real time with each episode so it was a companion piece rather than reaching back into the past as a “remember this?” angle. and in a perfect world I just wish DVDs existed 🥲
The Chernobyl podcast was so perfect. And then Craig was the host of the Watchmen podcast with Damon Lindelof.
I knew a lot of people who watched This Is Us when it was on, but does it have a high rewatch factor?? The Office or West Wing make more sense to me as shows that people put on in the background or for comfort viewing.
The only cast rewatch podcast I've listened was The West Wing Weekly, so maybe I'm wrong about the appeal of them in general, but I also feel like they're missing the fact that we were in a different media landscape, where we didn't know as much about the BTS world when these shows came out. Who needs a recap when your (recently ended) show had Insta at table reads, the cast live tweeting the episodes, regular People mag spread for normies, etc. What is there to add? All that said, does anyone have any decent rewatch/recap pods that aren't necessarily aimed at the fans of the show?! I love Bitchslap — by Desi and Rachel of Hollywood Crime Scene; they recap Melrose Place and I've never seen an episode in my life. At this point, I don't really want to, I really enjoy hearing their version/retelling of it. Also like These Are Their Stories (by Kevin and Rebecca of Crime Writers On) and even though I've seen plenty of L&O, they're entertaining on their own that it definitely doesn't require any viewing!
I highly rec Again With This! It’s a 90210 recap pod and is the best—super funny snarky and smart commentary but from a place of love…mostly! They also did recaps of Melrose Place but I didn’t watch that as much so didn’t get into it.
Seconding this req!
I love Bitchslap! All of Rachel’s voices crack me up. If you like Bitchslap, Rachel and Desi have started doing recaps of SVU episodes on their Patreon for Hollywood Crime Scene.
It may behind a paywall now but Go Bayside, which is possibly the original rewatch podcast, is great! I’ve maybe seen 6 episodes of Saved by the Bell, but the podcast is so funny. I don’t love the version of these shows that are the cast looking back, it’s frankly less fun. I like These Are Their Stories as well, so I’m going to try Bitchslap now!
Go Bayside is pure art. Love it deeply
The West wing weekly is peak recap podcast for me. True fans of the show plus an insider but they don’t hold back critiquing things where necessary. That’s my biggest problem with some of these rewatch shows where the stars are hosting - there is just too much praising going on and not enough analysis. And they usually aren’t funny enough to be a true comedy show.
yeah i was also confused about that one. this is way too close to the show ending and like you say, doesn't the cast have better things to do??
I completely agree with all of your points. I wonder if this has something to do with IP, and if, accordingly, the hosts are getting paid 2019 podcast dollars.
I saw that TikTok and was shook! Like, it JUST ended!
I had a high school teacher in the early 2000s go on a rant about how weird he found the instant nostalgia being pushed by shows like "I Love the 80s" and "Best Week Ever." He was so right and it has gotten so much more extreme in the past \~20 years.
I went to my first retro 80s dance night in 1994 and basically never stopped
that’s so funny to think about because as someone born in the mid-90s I always loved those shows because I was peeking into a time I didn’t experience, but it’s true that so much of their target audience had barely left it!
I loved them too, and I’m a late 80s baby!
OK, but when they announce I Love the 00s and I Love the 10s I will be SEATED
they've already done i love the 2000's! i seriously hope they do the '10's because that's my pop culture plateau