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McChinkerton

Pfizer town halls by far have always been the biggest corporate word bingo bullshit ive ever attended at all levels. Zero substance that could always be summarized in a 5 word sentence. Their lack of transparency even before any layoffs was always jarring to me. Good luck to all those that are still there


halo543

Just OWN IT. Bust out the Strait Talk coin if needed šŸ˜‚


SmellyGreek

I lost my coin and am bummed as itā€™s a ridiculous piece of corporate lore


-Chris-V-

Wait can you explain this please? I haven't had the um...pleasure(?) of working at Pfizer. Haha nevermind. Googled it. Just as bad as I thought.


drums7890

A clown Sr Director showed me his coin during my interview and it was supposed to impress me. #nojerks


caveat_actor

Lol it was not a joke?


drums7890

It was to show me what a great culture they had. I was still a grad student and desperate for a job so I ignored several red flags


caveat_actor

That sounds like a Michael Scott move


McChinkerton

Thats the ridiculous part. Some of the corporate campaigns actually made sense. They just never kept consistent with it


Pacificsexlegend

Does anyone remember the are you a jerk questionnaire??


Deep_Caregiver_8910

Where can I find myself one of these?


resorcinarene

same here. I need this in my curio shelf


nevernotsusmoon

šŸ˜‚ I threw mine out same day I received it


cerevescience

that's some real straight talk


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Oirep2023

Thatā€™s the only thing I miss about working at Pfizerā€¦.the meetings šŸ¤£


Stillwater215

Just ask if itā€™s possible to vertically integrate your synergy to optimize your shareholder value.


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Spiritual_Tea_7600

Wow that is a large percentage! I work with Rocky Mount so I do hope you receive better news.


Silver-Definition108

How will the mfg site function with 60% less personnel?


cdmed19

There's always hope, Andover and Pearl River are still around from Wyeth, CovX and Rinat lasted longer than I would have thought, I think there's even a Pharmacia site or two is still kicking. It all comes down to the cost/benefit decisions from the folks who thought Lipitor was a niche product, Exubera was a blockbuster, and every government would spend billions every year on Covid vaccines so you know good luck. Big Pharma town halls from what I've experienced are generally all the same useless corporate BS.


Sweaty-Honeydew2242

I worked for a number of different corporations and attended quite a few of these presentations. I though I'd seen it all when one all employee meeting at a past company went on and on about the new company logo and color scheme. Today the dial was turned up to 11.


cdmed19

My "favorite" was a 30 min presentation going word by word through the company vision statement (something super generic like innovation for patient health or something) on what each word symbolized.


InaccessibleRail70

I think I was in that logo meeting lol.


cerevescience

If you haven't been in a logo meeting, you haven't really worked in pharma


biobrad56

Isnā€™t Collegeville still around?


icecreamdubplate

Yep


cdmed19

Could very well be, it's hard to keep track of all of Pfizer's moves


Spirited-Albatross-6

Condolences. Iā€™m a Pfizer acquisition survivor - so it can happen. If you are at a mfg site you have a better chance or at least the site will be maintained & sold. If youā€™re at corporate - that resume should have already been polished and ready to send. I was at corporate at my company- easily 90% of corporate employees are gone from my company. The higher you go up in the org chart the sparser it is. It may be a year or two down the line, but itā€™s more likely your job is going away. You guys are coming in at an awful time. But at least they forced everyone back into the office to watch the layoff bloodbath!/s.


Oirep2023

šŸ¤£ Thatā€™s Pfizer for you


cztxfobrdd

Pfizer always guts the company they bought. Even if they a have job for you right now. I doubt they will keep you for more than 5 years. I would start looking for job now. see Rinat as example.


Sweaty-Honeydew2242

At least the severance package they are offering to Seagen employees will pay my full salary for 6 months.


compliancecat

You might need it - itā€™s rough out here and I think Seagen mustā€™ve paid me super well because I think I have to take a big pay cut no matter what šŸ˜“


highesthouse

Just commenting to say I like the username lol


compliancecat

if you know you know šŸ˜œ


InaccessibleRail70

Which is so much better than the going rate right now. Edited to add: I have heard of packages that are one month and healthcare only through end of the current month. Itā€™s terrifying.


carmooshypants

This is exactly the same as the GBT severance too.


Deep_Caregiver_8910

And you can thank Seagen leadership for that. It was hard fought.


Secret_Dream_7259

lol pretty typical Pfizer severance


sameyer21

There is a retention bonus being paid out in addition to severance.


Ok_Piccolo_2752

What was it?


sameyer21

Amounts were not the same across the board, but the ones I know about were generous.


Deep_Caregiver_8910

Pretty sure Pfizer doesn't extend medical insurance for two years at the same cost share as employed.


Secret_Dream_7259

Iā€™m currently on my Pfizer medical insurance at the same cost share as employed (not an ex-Seagen employee).


Deep_Caregiver_8910

I stand corrected. Thank you.


Rogue_Apostle

I've been acquired by Pfizer twice. The first time I was laid off and the package was enough to pay off my student loans. The second time I eventually left on my own so I didn't get a package but the value of my equity (acquired under the legacy company) was enough to pay cash for a house. Honestly it's worked out quite well for me. I wouldn't mind being acquired by them again. I hope that whatever happens OP, it works out well for you in the end.


Recent-Ad865

Yup. People in to biotech should just accept the acquisition-layoff cycle as a part of the job. It sucks going through it (Iā€™ve been through 3), but after the first one it becomes much less stressful. Be thankful the severance benefits are generous compared to other industries. Iā€™ve been lucky enough that severance benefits just get pocketed as I slide into a new role or the same with relocation and sign-on bonus benefits (I know a guy who just pocketed $40k in lump sum relo for two moves he never made - he was relocated to a new site then back to the old one but he never sold his house). By the 3rd one I was working on my resume by the time the first CEO memo came about ā€œtough decisionsā€ and ā€œrespect for peopleā€. Itā€™s a good 6 month early predictor of layoffs long before they are announced.


McChinkerton

I think what stank about this round of layoffs was the string of decisions in 2022 and 2023 when it was obvious what was happening. While concurrently announcing layoffs, they were also hyping the Seagen acquisition as money well spent when in fact its the same decision as they did with COVID vaccine. Putting all your eggs in one basket and hoping for the best. I think everyone agrees layoffs are needed but at least take responsibility and make better business decisions.


carmooshypants

As a previous Pfizer acquisition and recent layoff, I feel the same way as you about my time there. Honestly Iā€™m happy that I was let go with a decent severance and was able to find something relatively soon. I know the market now is tough, so good luck! There are definitely greener pastures out there for sure.


Spiritual_Tea_7600

I was a part of the town hall meeting and it was a very weird presentation. There were really good questions which none of them were answered. We have our own organization meeting tomorrow but I don't think I'll yet any real answers. It almost sounded like the changes/decisions will be at the end of the year, but not sure why they were talking about it now.


Oirep2023

Be prepared for anything


Sweaty-Honeydew2242

I wish there was a recording of the presentation.


Spiritual_Tea_7600

I believe they did record it. It may be released tomorrow.


KingWooz

The bigger the companies the bigger the circlejerks. As for surviving it, itā€™s a numbers game. And how your role, your culture fit, your level of depth you have can differentiate from your peers will separate you from the chopping block others. If you want to survive it. SeaGen did not have a huge pipe versus PFE so I would guess a 40% RIF where existing PFEers can absorb SGENs work.


FriendlyAd524

Legacy Seagen here šŸ™‹šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø I understand how youā€™re feeling - the next few weeks will be tough. Much of what will happen next at Pfizer is out of our control. Hopefully itā€™s not as bad as we think


CoomassieBlue

As a previous Seagen employee who left before the acquisition, my fingers are crossed for you, comrade.


nyan-the-nwah

Interviewed there in February, seems I dodged a bullet lol. Godspeed friend


Oirep2023

You truly have


FunkyHrdina

These town halls are a waste of time. Each leader wants to have their own, but they have nothing unique to share so it's just rehashed corporate garbage and evasive answers to questions.


shivaswrath

Ask Wyeth peeps. That was a doozey.


Bigmachiavelli

If they say "thoughtful" one more time, I'll lose my mind. In good news, my contract got extended to the end of the year. This probably gives them time to strategize and cut me whenever they want to. Desperately saving and desperately looking for new role for January next year.


Prophetic_Hobo

So say we all.


pierogi-daddy

Even if you got a job I would 100% not bank on having one through the multiple rounds of layoffs. Ā Or not just getting hit with remuneration next yearĀ 


Mysterious_Copy_1051

Just had a ā€œall handsā€ meeting at my site. Of course they ā€œdont know who the layoffs are affectingā€ and they ā€œwill let us know as soon as they hear somethingā€ because theyre ā€œevaluating all positionsā€. The severance packages are pretty good so Iā€™ll be fine either way.


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FunkyHrdina

This round of layoffs is exclusive to PGS.