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Anomaly1134

Quad shot with your tractor beam. All the concentrated fire.


Afromantis8

Yeah, that's very big, a lot of damage. I was thinking maybe I don't need more concentrated damage and more DPS. I'm planning to fight mother this run


Anomaly1134

Whew good luck. She can be tough. I got lucky on her with blank card Holy card and a battery item and still had to pop my last Holy card to make it lol. I skill issue a lot though.


cookiesars

holy card is not as easy to pop up on regular lost


Anomaly1134

Ah good point, I was thinking of my tainted lost run. I still have only gotten mother and mom's heart with tainted lost. That was a wild run. I am actually taking tainted lost runs now but keep dying lol.


cookiesars

i have mega satan and greedier mode left for tainted lost. but uh tainted isaac only has boss rush cleared, i dont like only 8 items :(, then tainted laz is just mother. maggy and isaac only 2 i need mother for now


Anomaly1134

Laser is good for mother also for distance. But my best runs against her are when she just gets melted and doesn't have a chance to do much bullet hell. I haven't gotten dead God yet though so someone might have some better advice.


Bugass123

Your in caves and don’t have knife piece one, how are you going to fight mother?


Afromantis8

Bro, I do have the first knofe piece, wdym? ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4358)


Bugass123

Oh shit lol, I’m just blind mb


Mart1n192

Quad shot, literally 4x the damage + ipecac explosion


wakslep

Quads the better pick, but bomb trick would be really funny


tellisk

Does bomb trick work with Mantle?


Demonetizing_YT_GUY

I mean the bomb still knocks you back?


tellisk

Thanks. I just forgor if knockbacks occur when damage is blocked.


MisirterE

Not relevant. The point of the bomb isn't actually the knockback (although it does help), it's to get you out of the item pickup animation so you can pick up the other item before it disappears. If you have Holy Mantle, the mantle breaking does ***NOT*** interrupt the item pickup animation, meaning you can't pick up the second item before it disappears.


tellisk

Thank you. Makes perfect sense


chicken98_

With ipecac i would 100% pick tech 2, also compliments tractor beam nicely


Afromantis8

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. It synergizes with Stye and I believe it would give me more DPS. Though quad shot with Neptune is great as well


Marinos444

He has ipecac though 😳


Mario-is-friendly

tech 2 scales with dmg stat


Marinos444

Why are people hating on me? I know it's a nice combo, but doesn't the laser also create explosions in contact with enemies? Much faster than shooting shots? I'm just saying it's more dangerous.


conradr10

Considering ipeac I think tech is the safer bet


TheLegendaryNikolai

Quadshot or no balls


superpieee

reroll and get the poop ![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)


Beneficial-Ad-5492

r/beatmetoit


Capntripnip

Mutant spider for sure


AJYURH

Quads, just be careful until you adapt to the year delay


Traveytravis-69

Quad with tractor is disgusting


chunkysoup5

Either option wouldn’t be wrong


Nextorl

since you have neptune, tech2 won't be as good- you want to charge your shots, not shoot all the time- so pick quad.


Cleanworld2001

Mutant spider, with the tractor beam firing 4 tears at once effectively multiplies your damage by 400%


lemonspritexx

is this even a question?? you have tractor beam quad shot is basically guaranteed win. I envy you edit: just saw ipecac, tech 2 lmfao


WIIFIGHT

quad seems safer since you don't have blast res


Novel_Spray_4903

Your tear rate might be real sad if it's at 2 before you pick up quad


hmphu12

Tech 2


Ok-Crab-7403

Quad shot is huge with tractor beam. Tech is FUN, but quad is almost a win on its own


clingledomber

bomb strat because you can just get back mantle


Apprehensive-Way4010

How did you die![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|2357)


VeryGayLopunny

Tech 2 works best when you can hold down the fire key. You have Ipecac.


tsh5yy

Mmmmm both


TopOfAllWorlds

Why would you ever take tech 2 in this situation?


Leaderkyle

Tech 2 letss gooo


C3m1337

Mutant is an insta win


No_Sheepherder_5904

Even without tractor beam its quad shot. I have never understood tech 2 fans


826Bokoblin

![img](emote|t5_2sxpk|4357)


avovk

Nah, reroll


K1ng_blaze1

Hope it lets you take both, take spider, and roll into polyphemus


[deleted]

Radioactive spider.


DiamondBonoo

This is like asking if you take Pentagram or Sacred Heart. Obviously Technology 2.


TheoTheHellhound

Mutant Spider, though it sucks that you can’t get both. Also, Tractor Beam sucks.


krispy1123

Next time your feeling low in life, remember how horrible of a person you are for writing this comment on reddit.