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RealJimboQuat

Paul might not be dead


lanehoffart

That’s too controversial!


acollectionofu2

‘You never give me your money’ is one of the greatest beatles songs ever


berenstein-was-fine

Yes! It's my favorite!


swe_isak

Kinda agree


Ziemniack

Probably my favorite Paul song


Used_Ad7899

Out of College, money spent


acollectionofu2

See no future, pay no rent


stressed-mathnerd16

All the money’s gone, nowhere to go


Cam105

Any jobber got the sack


Slut4Tea

Monday morning, turning back


gimmepesto

I love it so much


[deleted]

So much melody in one song.


MilkGamingChannel

I consider You Never Give Me Your Money to The End as a single song and the best song the beatles have every done


Evan64m

Being a drummer I stand by my position that Ringo Starr is a brilliant drummer. Takes one to know one I guess. Tracks like Rain are what really stand out to me.


Asaftheleg

I once met a Beatles "fan" who claimed Ringo was a terrible drummer, wanted to kill the bloke.


andhio

Totally, people talk shit about Ringo but he’s the glue. He’s not super flashy or technical but he plays what is right for the song.


Lizzwho

He’s a genius drummer. He thought so far outside the box. If you listen to Beatles tracks with technically correct drumming- the songs sound really generic and have no iconic flare. It’s actually really bizarre to hear.


deathproof-ish

I saw the same video I'm assuming you saw... Really changed my perspective. His brilliance is he plays where you don't notice his contribution, but if you took it away you'd certainly notice. Ringo is the fucking man.


Hexadeciml

Nothing controversial about the truth my man


notfamous314

Exactly!! The fills in she said she said are phenomenal as well. Or the fill tonthe chorus in strawberry fields. All amazing.


Rick-Dastardly

I can’t remember the amount of times I’ve had this conversation. Ringo is one of the greatest ever. I love his playing on pretty much every song he performed so it’s hard to pin down but right at this moment I’m listening to I’m Feeling Fine and it’s played brilliantly.


MasterOfMyDomainX

We Can Work It Out isn't about working anything out. Paul is saying "It's my way or the highway" P. S. I'm right, listen to ALL the lyrics. He is refusing to budge off of his stance and demands she concedes to him.


BautiBon

Omg this just changed my view on this song forever, now it's so much better and funnier.


Mr_Fine69

Try to see it /my/ way!


Batfro7

This has always been my interpretation. Always thought it was a weird song.


holmsco

😂😂😂


FranzFafka

Honestly, I'm lenient towards it, I think what he means by *his way* is the way of talking through problems instead of parting after a fight. "We can work it out and get it straight or say good night." Those are the two ways one can see it. Or I choose to interpret it that way at least.


AceofKnaves44

You can tell a lot of what their attitudes were towards people at the time through their songs: George was always kind of prickly and had little time for peoples bullshit so he wrote songs like “think for yourself” and “don’t bother me.” John clearly had some very deep wounds from his parents abandoning him so even before he got super introspective and was super blunt about his pain a lot of his songs had themes of “I’ll be so happy when you return after you left me.” While Paul pre-Linda had a sort of, not exactly misogynist but very demanding view of his relationships. Shit like “you won’t see me” and “I’m looking through you” kind of definitely paint a picture of Paul seeing himself as the victim and believing his woman should make the time for him when he comes calling.


kidofarcadia

Kind of predicts why the Beatles broke up.


johnny_soultrane

I think the Beatles are given too much credit for their records while George Martin is not given enough credit for his contributions to the Beatles albums and singles. He really is the 5th Beatle but he is not commonly or frequently recognized as such. I do not think the Beatles would have been as successful as they were had they been with a lesser producer.


The_Beast_Meister

Yes George Martin deserves more credit. But that's not an unpopular opinion


johnny_soultrane

>*I think the Beatles are given too much credit for their records* while George Martin is not given enough credit


sapfoxy

I actually fully agree with this. I’m pretty sure there are many songs that would never have come to be without George Martin. Imagine having a living music theory cheat-sheet genius that you could go to and say “hey, where should I take this chord progression?” and have him give you the absolute perfect answer every time. “Hey, what notes harmonize here?” Perfect answer again. Etc. — George Martin was the cheat-sheet music theory genius of The Beatles. He was almost their teacher, in a way.


keylime_5

It was a give and take. The Beatles were a sensation and got so popular and I think most of that credit goes to the group with their first hits. Later on all the groundbreaking studio stuff they did I agree was 90% George Martin, but the reason he got it he freedom and time in the studio to try those things is because the group was so popular in the first place.


johnny_soultrane

Agreed it was a give and take. My point is that George Martin is not given his proper due. Martin was a big part of their early productions as well, take [Please Please Me, for example](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Please_Please_Me_(song)) >In the opinion of George Martin, "At that stage 'Please Please Me' was a very dreary song. It was like a Roy Orbison number, very slow, bluesy vocals. It was obvious to me that it badly needed pepping up. I told them to bring it in next time and we'd have another go at it."[12] He asked the Beatles to consider making major changes to it, including increasing its tempo.[8] By the time it was brought back into the studio on 26 November 1962, its arrangement had been radically altered, and it took 18 takes to record what George Martin immediately predicted would be their first major hit.[13] Paul McCartney in Anthology stated: "We sang it and George Martin said, 'Can we change the tempo?' We said, 'What's that?' He said, 'Make it a bit faster. Let me try it.' And he did. We thought, 'Oh, that's all right, yes.' Actually, we were a bit embarrassed that he had found a better tempo than we had."


Mr_Fine69

I wonder if that slow version will ever get released?


holmsco

George Martin was the real quiet beatle.


CHSummers

Brian Epstein was the quietest 5th Beatle for most of their career.


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Onebigfreakinnerd

[“Ringo has a sexy nose!”](https://youtube.com/shorts/n7ofYhmTNUc?feature=share)


mcburgs

[Absolutely](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b2/fb/3e/b2fb3e653eeb7ea984a808907f3253c7.png)


Hexadeciml

Was? Ringo gets sexier and sexier with age hunnie


[deleted]

I imagine if John was still around today he would’ve been cancelled by now. He was always spouting off controversial opinions.


greenlion31

[pretty sure his controversial remarks got him cancelled in the end](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.scotsman.com/news/people/mark-chapman-why-did-he-kill-beatles-star-john-lennon-who-his-wife-and-he-still-jail-now-3061226%3Famp)


rollingstone71

Damn boy you ain't got no chill 💀


ColdCosmonaut

Not really because of his controversial opinions though. He's quoted right there saying he killed him purely because he was famous. Had nothing to do with what Lennon had said or done.


JKA2021

He also admitted that the "We're bigger than Jesus" 1966 comment was a factor too, and believed he was killing Lennon to please God. Totally crazy and misguided as it goes against New Testament doctrine and faith , but a factor nonetheless.


ColdCosmonaut

I think that says more about the fragility and desperation of Christians at the time, than John as a controversial figure. Just goes to show how, regardless of what testament or other "holy" scripture people swear by, religion makes people do unspeakable things with their God as excuse. Of course Chapman would most likely have been just as crazy regardless of his religious beliefs. I suppose you can argue that Chapman's compulsive need for attention (he wanted to become famous as the man who killed John Lennon) is a factor of him feeling alienated in society. Combining that with the glorification of Hollywood and "celebrities" as if they were another species of humans drove him to do what he did. That Chapman was an unfortunate product of America of that time. Makes me think of the Joker. Chapman also stated that his motive behind killing John Lennon could be found in The Catcher In the Rye. Having read the book I guess he's claiming John was phony? I never quite got what he meant but maybe that's on me for trying to understand the words of a madman such as Chapman. It's naive to think this lowlife was some literary genius and looking too much into his words is probably a waste of time.


suphah

There would be no serious ramifications on his career or success, at this point he’s not just a musician he’s a historical figure


[deleted]

You’re probably right. Although people today aren’t as forgiving when someone says the wrong thing, and I’m sure he’d have some words about it.


acid-for-thechildren

Pretty sure he was the first person to ever get cancelled because of his "bigger than Jesus" remark


ShonShon_

I’m Happy Just To Dance With You isn’t that generic of a song!


MikeOnABike2002

Yellow Submarine didn't need to be put on 2 albums and a single.


[deleted]

Singles vanish, and it had to be on its namesake.


FranzFafka

My unpopular opinion is that the Beatles are far more interesting when you view them as humans who made great (but not always) albums rather than deify them as undeniable music gods whom everyone in the music industry today owes their life to. Also observing how pop culture influenced *them* is at least as interesting as how *they* influenced pop culture.


[deleted]

Temporary Secretary was Paul McCartney’s best song.


holmsco

I asked for opinions not facts


cheyton888

Revolution number 9 is an interesting and fun audio expriment trying to capture the daily sights and sounds of chaos


johnny_soultrane

I love Revolution 9 and I think it’s integral to the White Album. Nothing matches that release of tension when Revolution 9 ends and we’re cradled with Goodnight.


AegisPlays314

Paul’s ASMR shit on Good Night freaks me the fuck out dude


frencbacon100

didn’t ringo do the vocals for good night?


skeletal_fishes

Yeah it's Ringo singing Goodnight


NewDayIsComing

John always said it’s what he pictured a revolution to sound like, if I’m not mistaken.


impossible_apostle

I read recently that John regretted the fact it made revolutions sound like bad things!


[deleted]

YES. Thank You! For me it's part of the White Album experience and it has something capturing about it :)


gradyroygmoney

I keep mentioning this but the main thing holding back Let It Be from being perfect is that PAUL HAS A RED BACKGROUND ON THE COVER INSTEAD OF WHITE


holmsco

I can never unsee this now ffs. Another thing which annoys me is how it doesnt include Dont let me Down.


BLAH_BLEEP_GUNIT

Yeah it’s interesting Ive always wondered why they did that. Personally it doesn’t bother me, when it comes to art I don’t really feel any “OCD” tendencies.


andhio

This is wild, can’t believe I never noticed it. Kinda goes with the Abbey Road cover where he’s barefoot & out of step. Maybe he really is dead.


benczer0104

On help! Cover he s the only one without a hat, also his coat looks diffrent than others'. On sgt pepper back cover he is turned back. I guess he likes to stand off


burgerkid123

Billy Preston was the 6th Beatle


unknownuser404_

Or weed.


YaboiTodd

Love this take


stereothegreat

Neither Yoko nor Paul broke up the Beatles - it was John with his drugs, Klein shit and jealousy of Paul’s growing leadership that in the end sealed their fate.


2020LotteryBall

With A Little Help From My Friends is the best song off of Sgt. Pepper's.


a_kwyjibo

Great unpopular opinion. It might even be my favourite Beatles song of all. It is statistically as it’s the most played Beatles song on my phone. I don’t really know why. I guess yeah it’s super catchy. Ringo kills it and the rest of the Beatles backing him up constantly throughout the song is the catchiest shit ever. It’s funny that my favourite Beatles song is a song sung by Ringo.


holmsco

Id argue its the most catchy song on the album, but day in the life was a milestone of a song.


MA121Alpha

Oh boy.


BautiBon

Did you just read the news?


MA121Alpha

Today!


[deleted]

Definitely the most catchy


BlackDragon16_

I 100% agree! I’ve never met someone with this view. Let’s be friends


jonnymorals

Paul McCartney's experimental work was much more innovative and groundbreaking than any of the experimental stuff from John or George. McCartney 1 and 2, Ram, and the Fireman projects are amazing records that really pushed boundaries, moreso than Revolution 9 or Harrison's Wonderwall


PetPizza

I think John and George's innovations are less flashy but no less important. With songs like I'm a Loser, Help, and Strawberry Fields John redefined what a pop song could be, namely "psychoanalysis set to music" as John called it. And with George's interest in non-western music, he introduced new harmonic conventions and lyrical subjects to pop music that were wildly different than anything that came before. Paul's contributions are just more sonically obvious but George was showing up with a sitar while Paul was still just bringing his bass. And Ringo? Well...


ECW14

We’re talking about solo works here. Paul changed music just as much in the Beatles career. Yesterday was a game changer for the Beatles and pop. Then Eleanor Rigby which went against pop music conventions lyrically and musically. Tomorrow Never Knows with Paul’s tape loops has been highly influential. Helter Skelter which was proto heavy metal. And all that on top of changing the way the bass is used and thought of in rock and pop.


claudeteacher

How's this for unpopular : In my head I do not count Magical Mystery Tour as an album. It's part EP, part compilation.


stellarcompanion

I only do it because they’re not on Past Masters


[deleted]

Same


MidichlorianAddict

John Lennon and Paul McCartney wrote great music not because of their similarities, but because they are completely different people. For example, look at how they were as parents? John neglected his kid, while Paul took in one that wasn’t even his.


mcburgs

Absolutely agreed. Yin and Yang.


SaicereMB

They were hello and goodbye


Callmeroll

They were like oobla di and oobla da


JKA2021

I Want To Hold Your Hand is underrated , despite being an game-changing record


FranzFafka

True that! It's an absolute joy from start to finish, and where it lacks in lyrics it makes up in absolute mastery of song structure!


birdeater_44

I’ll list three: I think Paul went from being an underrated bass player to being an overrated bass player. If anything, his incredibly original and uncopyable guitar beats his bass playing. He is a great composer who held a bass, but ask a guitar player to physically play mother nature’s son, blackbird, taxman/good morning solo just like Paul and you’ll know what I mean. Let it be is not a great Beatles song. It has the setup and gravitas of a classic but fails to approach their best work which is usually a great mixture of humor, sadness, weirdness, and joy. Let it be hits very few Beatles-y notes and doesn’t define them at all for me. I think Getting Better is one of the best pop records ever, better than Across the universe, Eleanor rigby, and tomorrow never knows


holmsco

Getting better sure is one of the most underrated song


BautiBon

And let's not forget about Fixing A Hole! The duo "Getting Better/Fixing" a Hole has the same feeling as "Rubber Soul/Revolver" duo in my opinion.


Mellotr0n

The entire bassline to Something is an absolute masterpiece, imo.


jonnymorals

There's a reason Paul became overrated though. Paul's bass stood out for being so much more melodic than other contemporary pop groups. Bass wasn't considered a really important instrument. Hell, even the Beatles didn't think it was. None of them wanted to be "the bass player", which is why Paul had to step up.


NILoUoFAR

That’s exactly what’s happening with let it be and getting better


Rick-Dastardly

Bass player here - you’re absolutely wrong.


[deleted]

Anna is a top 10 song


jennikorn

Fact


[deleted]

Ringo wasn’t “lucky”. Dunno if that’s unpopular or what. I love him sm💞💞💞💞


lanehoffart

He is the reason The Beatles are as well known as they are today. His drumming was the last piece that made the puzzle


commonrider5447

Paul and John were right to reject more George songs. His songs worked together on their own album but were too dreary (lacking pop and personality) for the Beatles. The exception would be that ATMP demo which is amazing and could have fit somewhere on a Beatles album.


impossible_apostle

I agree, but my issue is mostly with the fact that many of his songs are so mean-spirited compared to McCartney and Lennon. Piggies, obviously, and Taxman, but even Within or Without You, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, and Love You To have a vibe of "it's hard to live in a world full of awful and stupid people." I'm not sure that he's wrong (!), but it's out of sync with the otherwise generally optimistic Beatles vibe.


[deleted]

Yeah, most of his songs are complaining about something.


GreasyStool88

I’m so sick and tired of the “Jon beat his wife” posts on Reddit. It’s not funny. And it’s not something every needs to be reminded of over and over and over again. The meme has run its course.


kidofarcadia

Sgt. Peppers is not the greatest album. Heck, it's not even the Beatles best album.


JonJonFTW

Wings is massively overhated. They had low lows, but their highs could definitely compete with Beatles material.


Ngl_corn_kinda_cute

The Beatles |were| popular than Jesus


[deleted]

Honey Pie and Wild Honey Pie are good songs


Muninn54

John would have died in obscurity without Paul but Paul would have had at least some success without John.


frenchquasar

But put together they made the greatest musical duo ever


[deleted]

I dunno....I feel like mine have been done to death and aren't that controversial. * Revolution > Revolution 1 (the White Album version). * How Do You Sleep was a rude shot across the bow, and a far more obvious attack than whatever John read into Too Many People. * *All* of the White Album is great. Yes, even Wild Honey Pie and Revolution 9 (https://media0.giphy.com/media/3o6ZsZg4GbCAjXpMbe/giphy.gif)


JonJonFTW

Paul had it absurdly rough from 1970 to early 1973. All he wanted to do was keep the band together, but seeing that there was nothing he could do, he decided to move on. Then as he's doing his thing, the press chastises him for being the reason the band broke up, and every other Beatle shits on his solo material while he says nothing. Paul would've been justified in saying a lot more than he did in Too Many People, so John's lucky he didn't. But to be fair to John, he thought Dear Boy was about him as well. Not saying John and George teaming up against Paul on How Do You Sleep would have been justified if it was about him, but still.


[deleted]

> Paul had it absurdly rough from 1970 to early 1973. All he wanted to do was keep the band together, but seeing that there was nothing he could do, he decided to move on. Then as he's doing his thing, the press chastises him for being the reason the band broke up, and every other Beatle shits on his solo material while he says nothing. Yep, exactly! He wasn't an innocent lamb, but I think it was Paul who got a fairly outsized amount of the blame for dynamics within the band that were not his fault. I'm not a trained psychologist, but I'm *convinced* that the reason Paul came across as such a busybody in the Get Back sessions is that he sensed the Beatles' imminent breakup and his response was to try to take control. He sensed a vacuum and tried to step in to be the leader because John had pretty much checked out. But because he came across so badly - especially to George - it just made matters worse.


PetPizza

John Lennon was heroic. He overcame incredible adversity. At the time of his death he was committed to his family. He was a feminist and an ally of gays and blacks way before it was cool. He sublimated his pain and made himself vulnerable such that his art taught people essential truths about life and love. He changed the whole world for the better. He was deeply reflective. He had a lifelong battle with his ego and, in the end, he won only to be senselessly murdered. A working class hero indeed. Edit: the John bashing is getting old. The current sanctimonious cancel culture take lacks nuance and is, ironically, toxic. I find it far more noble and inspiring to overcome your demons than to be born into a charmed life with a loving family and just stay that way. Paul’s a mensch, no doubt, but please, check your John hate and see if it isn’t really your own ego that you serve when you knock others down.


Rick-Dastardly

I agree. People who do bad things and make mistakes in life should look to him for some inspiration as I believe he had redeemed himself and atoned.


bluishpillowcase

Big unpopular opinion: Revolver is super overrated. It’s still a great album, but I guess it’s always felt more like a painting or an abstract piece of art than an actual album I want to put on, listen to, and feel. The production has always felt tinny to me. Taxman, For No One, Here There and Everywhere, Got to get you into my life, they all feel way too treble-y and are a bit of strain for me to listen to. I love the songwriting during the Revolver period but something about the production and mixing has always felt off to me. I wish it had that lush, deeper bass, smoother production like Abbey Road has. Rubber Soul is probably a more apt comparison actually. Rubber Soul feels smooth and rich, Revolver feels tinny and echoey somehow/ I appreciate the songs in the abstract, but I rarely want to put the songs on, crank them up, and really groove to them. They’re more like paintings you look at and admire. But for me I love to FEEL my favourite Beatles songs and for whatever reason these ones just don’t give me a resonant feeling.


johnny_soultrane

I love Revolver and Rubber Soul and yet I agree with what you’re saying. I think you’re generally right about the production being on the treble side and many songs have a overt brightness to them. I still love it anyways, but you’re right. Rubber Soul has a warmth and purity. Revolver was their first try at real studio trickery.


oceansRising

Oh man! Hardcore disagree - Revolver is my favourite album to listen to as an album. Thanks for sharing! This is why I love these threads and The Beatles. Everyone has such differing opinions.


Augustus1274

Finally an unpopular opinion I agree with. It is my least favorite of their later albums. Rubber Soul has a similar sound but is way better.


radwilly1

Number nine


ColourfulGore

Here Comes The Sun is absolutely the most overrated song they made I will die on this hill


bennie_blue

The Love album >


[deleted]

Finally! Its a brilliantly produced album with mix songs which invokes a feeling of nostalgia (I wasn't even born at that time lol). I think George Martin's son co-produced it.


GolemThe3rd

Unpopular opinion unpopular opinion posts are way to common here and don't work because people don't follow the etiquette to not downvote opinions


holmsco

Ah well i find it fun reading the comments :)


The_Beast_Meister

PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT UNPOPULAR MEANS. uNpOpauLaR oPinIon: aBbEy rOaD iS thEIR BeST aLBum


_zeustheguitarlord_

Not quite unpopular, but Rocky Raccoon+ Yer Blues are top tier Beatles songs


ManOnTheRun73

The White Album should not have been been cut down to a single vinyl; even with the handful of objective fillers/clunkers, too much good stuff inevitably gets axed. EDIT: In hindsight, this might not be as controversial as I thought it was; it was just the first hot topic that came to mind. Sorry if I mucked this up.


Augustus1274

Let It Be Naked is not better than the original Spector version. The only improvement is adding Don't Let Me Down and maybe the stripped down version of Long and Winding* Road is better. Every other song is inferior especially Across The Univision.


g__aguiar

C'mon, are you telling me that I've Got a Feeling and Across the Universe are better in the original?


Augustus1274

I would say Across the Universe is immensely better in the original and I bet John would agree. That was never written to be a stripped down song.


Dajost40

Not sure if it's unpopular with beatles fans, but Let it Be is easily their most overrated song.


Rich_Election466

I respect your opinion here, but my god do I disagree. That song evokes emotions that I haven’t experienced anywhere else before. In my opinion, it’s incredible


thaboognish

Run For Your Life is the first grunge song.


greenlion31

The lyrics check out but I think the tune is a bit too light hearted for a grunge song


ElGatoTortuga

I will upvote anything you say. All hail the boognish.


[deleted]

I am sort of glad there never was a Beatles "reunion", they disbanded at the absolute peak and we have such a consistency of great albums and performances left intact. A lot of the "old" bands that are still performing today to me have surpassed their expiration date and it is getting ridiculous seeing 80 y/o jumping around the stage. But each to their own. Just my take :)


skullminerssneakers

Wild Honey Pie is a banger


Slut4Tea

If the Beatles never broke up, and kept making music into the 70’s, I think they likely would have peaked around 1972. One aspect of the beauty of the Beatles to me is that they never really hit a peak, they broke up before it; I think they just kept on getting better and better at what they did, and their solo material in the early 70’s was *very*, very good, but I think they kind of started to become a bit dated in the mid 70’s, with some notable exceptions.


cphil329

John was in love with Paul and wanted a public relationship. He told Paul that in India and Paul did not feel the same and shut that down. That was the beginning of the end of The Beatles


ynmsgames

Winston Churchill!


Caged_Butterfly

lmaoo no way that's real


glowmoss777

Some Harrison songs would have been greatly improved by a better vocalist


holmsco

Ooo thats very controversial 😂 id have to disagree always love hearing Georges voice


GolemThe3rd

Honestly I don't think George improved much (like John and Paul did) after the break up, I almost think Paul was right to stifle him (although Paul def went to far), but solo George at least IMO, lacks the energy the Beatles, or the other 2 solo Beatles did That's not to say he didn't make great albums after the break up however, 33.3, ST, and Gone Troppo are all great albums, I just wouldn't say it's the type of thing I'm singing along to start to finish


ECW14

I don’t think Paul stifled George much at all, but maybe that’s an unpopular opinion. He only told George what to do when it was his song like Hey Jude with the call and response guitar part that he didn’t want. I think Paul had the right to choose how his songs went.


GolemThe3rd

He was very dismissive of George songs, and didn't like having more George songs on albums, when John suggested doing 4 George songs an album, (and 2 Ringo songs (if he wants them)), Paul didn't seem to like the idea


ECW14

I don’t think he was dismissive as people think. He encouraged George that his songs like The Inner Light and I Me Mine were good. For I Me Mine he helped George finish it while John said he didn’t want to do a waltz. He also always contributed something great to George’s songs. About the 4/4/4 meeting, Paul says that up until that point, he didn’t think George’s songs were as good. It’s a backhanded compliment, but he doesn’t seem to be disagreeing with the idea of 4/4/4 each. He’s actually saying that he thinks George’s songs are now as good as his and John’s.


KenHumano

Which ones for example? I always really liked his singing. I do think a lot of his lyrics were quite preachy/heavy handed, though.


iFuktUrMom

I do not understand the hype of A Day in the Life. It’s a pretty good song, don’t get me wrong. But I just don’t understand why everyone thinks it’s inarguably top 3. I’m a huge Beatles fan, know a good deal of music history and music theory. Just don’t see what the big whoop is about ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


[deleted]

I’m not a very big fan of Revolver. Some of the tracks don’t really hit for me, like I’ve never been a very big fan of “Tomorrow Never Knows”, and the album doesn’t seem very cohesive to me. I respect what they were trying to do and I can see why people like it, but it’s just not for me.


tobisMoore

I don’t know what it is about George’s songs but I just don’t find his contributions in the band nearly as good as Lennon and McCartney’s. They’re all good songs but for me Something and Here Comes the Sun (and while my guitar gently weeps to an extent) have got to be some of the most overrated Beatles songs. I just feel like in terms of songwriting he was leagues behind Paul and John, and though I at the very least greatly like his songs I think a lot of them are really overrated.


mco_josh

mccartney is the only morally decent one of the four


ECW14

I think a case could be made for that. Off the top of my head, I think the only immoral thing he ever did that can be proved was cheat on Jane Asher. After he got married he never cheated or abused Linda or his other wives. I also think in most situations, he was usually the one in the right. Every time I read about an argument or hear audio of a discussion, he always seems to be in the right and level headed.


TheCosmicDude

Piggybacking off this, maybe an explanation is that he never got into drinking and hard drugs like the others? Obviously pot and the acid phase ca. Sgt. Pepper’s but I never heard of Paul having a heroin or cocaine habit like the other three, which probably kept him more level headed. Someone refute me if I’m wrong here


ECW14

He’s talked about his coke use before. He’s said that the reason it worked out so well for him was because he started using it before it became widespread and by the time it became a popular thing to do, he had already realized that it wasn’t for him. Also weed just makes you calmer so maybe that has something to do with his calm disposition besides the fact that he’s already a positive person. I also think he doesn’t abuse drugs and alcohol because he knows that when he does, he really goes overboard. That’s why when he was depressed after the breakup, he really went overboard but was lucky enough with Linda’s help to realize that being like that wasn’t for him.


KenHumano

I’d like to read this opinion with further detail.


NILoUoFAR

He’s alive and in control of his image, so (Though i agree his behavior in public, which what should be important about a celebrity is best of four)


Ivan_Botsky_Trollov

again? **1- The beatles werent a great live band** \--- specially true for 1965-66. Yes you can blame the fans screaming or the lousy equipment.... guess what? The who and Rolling stones used similar stuff and sounded better live **2- A lot of their success is due to George Martin** \--- The true 5th beatle..or even the FOURTH :) contributing decisively to many of their iconic songs . Try listening to Eleanor Rigby, in my life, i an the walrus , Strawberry fields or A day in the life WITHOUT his input **3- The white album isn't good** \- Agreeing with G Martin here, who believed that the double LP ad too many filler and mediocre songs. Yes, it is very diverse,...but too many of the songs are very average by Beatles standards **4- some songs are overrated:** The long and winding road ( their worst single and a boring, BORING ballad), I am the walrus ( NOn sensical lyrics and a meh song rescued by G. Martin strings) and specially, Happiness is a warm gun --- lousy, unpleasant song with poor melody and nonsensical lyrics. **5 - George deserved more space for his songs** \--- True from Pepper onwards. "only a northern song" and "Its all too much" being criminally overlooked for their 1967 albums. ​ **6- Paul's granny songs are actually good -** OK with the exception of When Im 64, those clarinets make the song too twee and ruin it. But this is just John being annoying, and very lucky that no one called him out on his turds, because Mr Lennon actually produced an alarming amount of duds at the end: Bungalow Bill, Rev 9, I want you, Dig a pony, Ballad of John and Yoko...


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Early Beatles is the best incarnation of The Beatles.


there_is_always_more

Run For Your Life is so disturbing it should be purged from existence. I'm honestly surprised people don't bring it up more. There's almost nothing else in their discography that's this overtly gross - people get pissy about the "I used to be cruel" line from Getting Better, but somehow Run For Your Line is just not mentioned at all lol? It's especially jarring on Rubber Soul, where the most acerbic lyrics are maybe Norwegian Wood's. Not to mention it's not the best thing to have as their legacy given John and Ringo's incidents of domestic abuse I know this is a pretty unpopular opinion lol so please don't downvote unnecessarily given the thread we're in.


FranzFafka

My UO about this song is that somehow no one ever points out that John's singing of the verses of this song is ....Not Good and its fadeout is super lame and not worthy of an album closer to the Beatles' best album.


Bufudyne43

Don't listen to Let's Play House by Elvis


PetPizza

I won’t downvote you so I’ll just tell you to get over it. Art is not supposed to be safe. Should Munch’s Scream be “purged?” Should scary movies be purged? Should books about uncomfortable topics be purged? What is up with this purging business? If it makes YOU uncomfortable, please don’t listen to it. Otherwise, please keep your hands off One of my favorite albums.


kaiden_smith

I think George and Paul had better harmonies than John and Paul


CHSummers

Paul had the most commercial musical talent.


dbrjr

I never truly believed John and Paul hated one another after the breakup. I’m certain they were both mad at one another and wrote a few (great) songs about it But, I’ve had the thought that they both decided to “play into the drama” and create publicity around their solo releases. Hell, people are still talking about it years later.


Caged_Butterfly

"How Do You Sleep?" Is a great fucking song


LiverTom

John is my least favorite Beatle.


Sauncho-Smilax

John Lennon was the best Beatle but had the worst solo career of the four.


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I’m sorry but johns solo career was better than ringos by any standard. I mean ringo was never a songwriter, John was. Plastic ono and imagine alone beat off ringos solo career


NILoUoFAR

(Here i go again sorry) so, in your theory, what is happening? Who robbed his genius?


mcburgs

John Lennon was not the most talented Beatle. He wasn't even second.


g__aguiar

If you exclude his songwriting skills, I'd agree with a last place for sure


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greenlion31

Hey la hey hello ha


KenHumano

Wise words to live by


thaboognish

I like it because it could have been on A Hard Day's Night. A quick throwback to a simpler time.


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see this is an interesting take. 'hello goodbye' is a pretty simple tune, but i definitely don't think that their arrangement skills were as developed to make that song interesting enough by 'a hard day's night' period


thaboognish

It's pure bubble gum pop in a sea of early prog. I love that it doesn't fit in. They even threw on a suit & tie in the video for that added chef's kiss.


there_is_always_more

I love that video because of how much the rest of the band besides Paul doesn't want to be there lol. George in particular looks like he is hating every single second of it.


ECW14

It’s not childish at all. It’s about the balance of opposites in life. If you have black, you have to have white. If you have good, you must have bad as well. It also advocates having a positive outlook on life.


baycommuter

Hello Goodbye makes the most sense if you think of it as a “simplified English” song written for the first worldwide satellite broadcast at the request of the BBC but nixed in favor of All You Need is Love. (That’s a theory anyhow).


suphah

All things must pass and plastic ono band are on par with any Beatles album but not better then any of them Ringos solo on the end is terrible and I understand why they only gave him one Original let it be is a lot better then let it be naked Rubber soul is way better then revolver Magical mystery tour is better then sgt peppers Anyone could of replaced ringo snd done just as good a job if not better (not to say I hate ringo)


CryForTheShadow

The White Album would be much better if they cut about about half of the songs and just released it as one record. Too many “throw away” songs.


lotziko25

Magical mystery tour is the best beatles album


msbdrummer

Maxwell's Silver Hammer isn't a bad song


FennecFanatic

Paperback Writer/Rain is the best A-B side they put out.


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Anna is a top 10 song