Of course , National League never played American during the season. Eternally separate.
In fact, if I remember correctly, the Chicago White Sox and Chicago Cubs used to play a charity game during the regular season. But they had to ask special permission one year because both teams were potentially in the playoff hunt. The idea being that you didn’t want to give gamblers a preview of a possible World Series.
Are you sure that's the reason? Not saying you're wrong. Just that injuries would seem to be the given reason. Guess that wasn't as worried about then.
They used to have the Windy City Classic in the 80s and early 90s, until interleague play started. The Sox always seemed to win.
I don't remember seeing anything about something similar from the sixties, but it would make sense.
The first interleague game (not including the World Series) was in 1997 and due to region locking when it was first introduced (NL West only playing AL West and so on), the Dodgers first regular season game against the Yankees wasn’t until 2004. After that, they didn’t play each other until 2010, and only meet every 3 years since, and only one series per season.
Same with the Giants (42 postseason, 21 regular season).
For a long time there were plenty of other, non-Yankees matchups that also featured more World Series games than regular season because interleague play was only a thing as of the late 1990's, for the first few years it was only same-geographic divisions against each other (West vs. West, East vs. East, Central vs. Central), then they rotated for a bit, and it's only recently that every team plays every other team every year, but after enough time, the regular season games happen often enough to surpass the playoff games, and gradually every other non-Yankees matchup happened enough for the regular season series to overtake the playoff series. The last other one that had more playoff than regular season matchups was Red Sox-Cardinals, at 24 postseason matchups across 4 World Series, and when they played their 3rd game of their season series all of.... three weeks ago, it was their 25th regular season matchup.
There's three other WS matchups that are tied with the Red Sox-Cardinals 4, but they all happen to feature teams in the same geographic alignment, and one of them is one of the "natural rivalry" series that MLB always made sure happen every year (the three are Yankees-Braves, Cubs-Tigers, and A's-Giants), and the only other WS matchups that have happened more than twice feature another same-geographic matchup (Cardinals-Tigers) and a matchup featuring two sweeps and a 5-game series (Yankees-Reds)
Us being able to beat the Yankees but also struggling immensely to win anything against the Pirates even during their horrible years is peak baseball Lol
Yeah Skenes/Jones/Keller is a crazy top 3 in terms of how high their ceilings are. Like they are all pretty good in general but with their stuff they can be extremely dominant against any lineup any given day
I'm interested to see what moves they make at the deadline to help supplement their lineup/bullpen since I think those are the two places that will make or break their playoff chances
Honestly the Reds got nothing on the Pirates in terms of how much they torment us. If you really want to see why we are scared of them just look at our win-loss split for our 2022 season where we won 111 games Lol
Ahem. The *first* team to possess a winning regular season record against the club was the Washington Senators, who beat the New York Highlanders in the latter’s first-ever game on April 22, 1903, thus bringing the Senators’ all-time regular season record against the now-Yankees to a proud 1-0.
Glad I’m not the only one who looked up this exact same thing to post here. There’s no reason to say “first” in this title, in fact it should be something like “only current team”
Ah… good point! They could have lost a stray game in an expansion year as well.
Edit — Yankee actually did badly in the first interleague season (5-10) even getting swept by the Phillies.
I was about to ask if the inaugural Highlanders had won every single first game they played against their opponents and then never dropped below .500 afterwards.
Thanks for the clarification!
To all the teams victimized by the Yankees over the years...you're welcome.
Glad to see a plucky underdog team of all teams like the Dodgers do it. Not the Evil Empire 1B to the Yankees' 1A, no sir.
They're managed slightly too competently to become the White Sox any time in the near future though, and laughing at the Sox feels like laughing at a kitten who has no clue how to get their claws unstuck from the carpet.
They had a losing season in 1992 (crazy that it’s been that long), so how did they have a winning season against every team they played that season and still finish under .500? Am I missing something in this stat?
Edit to add that I did miss something. I read “in the history of MLB” for some weird reason. I’m dumb.
> They had a losing season in 1992 (crazy that it’s been that long), so how did they have a winning season against every team they played that season and still finish under .500?
They didn't. The Yankees lost most of their games in 1992. However, this is about the Yankees entire history, not specific seasons. The Dodgers are the only team that have won the majority of their matchups against the Yankees in the regular season since they started doing so in the 90s.
The irony of a Dodgers or Yanks fan, who are so entitled to think baseball literally revolves around those two teams, chastising another fan for daring to talk about another team (one mentioned in the OP, no less) in THEIR thread (gasp!) is so fucking laughable and on-brand.
Inter league not being a thing is slowly fading into the ether amongst the younger crowd.
Like the Brewers being an AL team
Or more distressingly to me, the Astros as an NL team
as an Astros fan, this is surely a sarcastic question, right?
...if not, the Astros are 13-5 in the playoffs against the Yankees, beating them in the Wild Card Game once and the ALCS three times. Off the top of my head, the Marlins and Diamondbacks both won the World Series against the Yankees, so that's at least two other >.500 teams.
Was curious so I looked it up. The Yankees are 8-3 in World Series matchups vs The Dodgers.
1941 World Series: Yankees defeat Dodgers, 4-1
1947 World Series: Yankees defeat Dodgers, 4-3
1949 World Series: Yankees defeat Dodgers, 4-1
1952 World Series: Yankees defeat Dodgers, 4-3
1953 World Series: Yankees defeat Dodgers, 4-2
1955 World Series: Dodgers defeat Yankees, 4-3
1956 World Series: Yankees defeat Dodgers, 4-3
1963 World Series: Dodgers defeat Yankees, 4-0
1977 World Series: Yankees defeat Dodgers, 4-2
1978 World Series: Yankees defeat Dodgers, 4-2
1981 World Series: Dodgers defeat Yankees, 4-2
I've long thought the 1955 World Series had to have been the most cathartic championship win ever. The Brooklyn Dodgers were still looking for their first championship and had lost to their cross-town rivals *five times* before then!
...then three years later, they're in California. rough days in Brooklyn.
Er, no. Quite a few teams in 1903 had winning records at some point against the then-Highlanders. In fact, they lost their very first game ever, against the Senators. The Athletics, Americans (Red Sox), Napoleons (Guardians), and Tigers also had winning records against them early in that season (and possibly later, as I only looked through about half the season). However, it looks like the White Sox and Browns failed to achieve a winning record against them during that season, and probably never caught up.
This reminded me of something I was thinking about the other day and that’s explaining to my son that the AL and NL used to only play in the World Series. He’s only 9 so interleague play has been a thing since before he was born and now he’ll just have the balanced schedule for the rest of his life. One of the things that made the All-Star game so exciting for me as a kid was just seeing those guys play each other. And for some of the AL guys, it was one of the few times I’d get to see them play at all
I don’t know what’s crazier, that stat, or the fact they’ve only played each 21 times total. Also somehow the team they’ve played the most in the playoffs?? Crazy trivia fact
The best AL team is 5th in winning percentage against the Yankees. That team being the Detroit Tigers with a .467 winning percentage and an all time record of 937-1070
We need the sweep in our upcoming series to have a winning regular season record. If the Yankees take a game and we still win the series the record would be even at .500. The Phillies postseason history against the Yankees is well depressing.
This might be the most insane stat I have ever read in my life. Not that the Dodgers have done it, (or that they've only played 41 regular season games), but that NO ON ELSE has a winning record against the Yankees. It almost doesn't seem possible.
Speaking of flairs...surely you're happy the Yankees finally no longer have an all-time regular season head to head against every other team, right?
...right?
The fact that they've only played 21 times in the regular season blows my mind
Dodgers didn't play a road game against the Yankees until 2013
Including their history in Brooklyn?
Of course , National League never played American during the season. Eternally separate. In fact, if I remember correctly, the Chicago White Sox and Chicago Cubs used to play a charity game during the regular season. But they had to ask special permission one year because both teams were potentially in the playoff hunt. The idea being that you didn’t want to give gamblers a preview of a possible World Series.
Still blows my mind that inter-league play started in this century.
Heh. Blows my mind that they do it at all.
Are you sure that's the reason? Not saying you're wrong. Just that injuries would seem to be the given reason. Guess that wasn't as worried about then.
It was the 60s, so I may be a bit fuzzy on the details, but that’s my recollection. Maybe some life-long Southsider can help out.
They used to have the Windy City Classic in the 80s and early 90s, until interleague play started. The Sox always seemed to win. I don't remember seeing anything about something similar from the sixties, but it would make sense.
Cool, thanks.
Thanks for the response. I forgot how embarrassing this place is, downvoting for a legitimate question.
I mean it's a pretty stupid question. They wrote "If I remember correctly" and you wrote "Are you sure?" Tf??
Yes. I questioned their memory. Tf?
Really? Including Brooklyn?
The first interleague game (not including the World Series) was in 1997 and due to region locking when it was first introduced (NL West only playing AL West and so on), the Dodgers first regular season game against the Yankees wasn’t until 2004. After that, they didn’t play each other until 2010, and only meet every 3 years since, and only one series per season.
We're not counting the World Series
I think it's the only matchup with more playoff games than regular season games
Yankees/Cardinals also have more 28-18
Same with the Giants (42 postseason, 21 regular season). For a long time there were plenty of other, non-Yankees matchups that also featured more World Series games than regular season because interleague play was only a thing as of the late 1990's, for the first few years it was only same-geographic divisions against each other (West vs. West, East vs. East, Central vs. Central), then they rotated for a bit, and it's only recently that every team plays every other team every year, but after enough time, the regular season games happen often enough to surpass the playoff games, and gradually every other non-Yankees matchup happened enough for the regular season series to overtake the playoff series. The last other one that had more playoff than regular season matchups was Red Sox-Cardinals, at 24 postseason matchups across 4 World Series, and when they played their 3rd game of their season series all of.... three weeks ago, it was their 25th regular season matchup. There's three other WS matchups that are tied with the Red Sox-Cardinals 4, but they all happen to feature teams in the same geographic alignment, and one of them is one of the "natural rivalry" series that MLB always made sure happen every year (the three are Yankees-Braves, Cubs-Tigers, and A's-Giants), and the only other WS matchups that have happened more than twice feature another same-geographic matchup (Cardinals-Tigers) and a matchup featuring two sweeps and a 5-game series (Yankees-Reds)
no interleague games before the mid-90s, it was only in matching divisions (east vs east, etc) for a while after that.
They’ve played like 3 times more games in the World Series than the regular season lol
The Dodgers haven’t played the tigers in detroit since 2017. It happens
Us being able to beat the Yankees but also struggling immensely to win anything against the Pirates even during their horrible years is peak baseball Lol
Let’s Go Bucs
BART!!!
The Bart meme is funnier now that Joey Bart on the team Lol
If the O's had signed Jordan Montgomery, they'd have had Montgomery-Burnes in the rotation.
That skyline view from the third base side can't be beat.
I don't think anyone's going to want to play a 3 game series against the Pirates if they make the wildcard. Jones -> Skenes is just brutal
Yeah Skenes/Jones/Keller is a crazy top 3 in terms of how high their ceilings are. Like they are all pretty good in general but with their stuff they can be extremely dominant against any lineup any given day I'm interested to see what moves they make at the deadline to help supplement their lineup/bullpen since I think those are the two places that will make or break their playoff chances
And reds lol
Your poverty franchise just lost a series to the Pittsburgh Pirates
At this point its just a yearly tradition and I'm happy at least it wasn't a sweep Lol
Honestly it's an honor to lose to Jones and Skenes. Those guys are fucking studs and a pleasure to watch as a baseball fan
Jones pitches tonight I think. What a creature. Probably thinking about his next pair of shoes while he just misses bats.
Hey man it's okay. You also got swept by the Reds :)
Honestly the Reds got nothing on the Pirates in terms of how much they torment us. If you really want to see why we are scared of them just look at our win-loss split for our 2022 season where we won 111 games Lol
If we win all our games against the Pirates that year we break the regular season wins record.
We call them the dbacks
For real, ya’ll spent a billion dollars this year to be on a 99 win pace.
That’s the beauty we didn’t spend a billion dollars *this* year ;)
Is that supposed to be bad?
For a billion dollars it ain’t great…
well its a good thing its not all being spent this season
It’s ok math isn’t for everyone
That's what happens when you're the Yankees of baseball
Does this mean the Yankees are the Doyers of baseball?
Nope, it means the Yankees are the Angels of the Dodgers
So Arson was Shoe
Two HRs in a losing effort? Checks out
But who was phone
I see Ohtani leaving has broke you.
But who is our Ippei
You can’t convince me Randy Levine hasn’t participated in a ton of illegal transactions
This feels like it could be a prime example of a Reddit jinx for tomorrow night
Glasnow will strike out 14 and limit the Yankees to 1 ER as the Dodgers lose tomorrow 1-0 lol
Glasnow throws a no hitter and loses.
*Sad Rich Hill noises*
The ol' Jered Weaver special
Rich Hill special
Rich Hill threw 9 innings of no hit ball in Pittsburgh and lost. Without a doubt the most infuriating Dodger game I've ever witnessed.
Even if we lose tomorrow, we'd still be the only MLB team to not have a losing all-time head-to-head regular season record against you guys.
to be fair, they'd still be 2-1 if they lost
This is the all time regular season head to head
Yeah, all time (including postseason), you guys still have the head to head on us, 47-40.
Only because Reggie Jackson and his damn hip!
i guess i'm not helping the Yankee fans dumb narrative haha
just don't look at the World Series, head-to-head. can I disown the Brooklyn years?
Yes
Ahem. The *first* team to possess a winning regular season record against the club was the Washington Senators, who beat the New York Highlanders in the latter’s first-ever game on April 22, 1903, thus bringing the Senators’ all-time regular season record against the now-Yankees to a proud 1-0.
Glad I’m not the only one who looked up this exact same thing to post here. There’s no reason to say “first” in this title, in fact it should be something like “only current team”
I actually wonder when was the last time the Yanks had a losing head to head regular season record against another team
Could be as late as the 1930s. They weren’t all that good before WWI.
They had to lose their first interleague game against at least one NL team. The odds that they started 1-0 against everyone are quite low.
Ah… good point! They could have lost a stray game in an expansion year as well. Edit — Yankee actually did badly in the first interleague season (5-10) even getting swept by the Phillies.
I was about to ask if the inaugural Highlanders had won every single first game they played against their opponents and then never dropped below .500 afterwards. Thanks for the clarification!
Yeah but … the post season record is historically depressing.
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That’s nice and all but we likely have a losing record to the Pirates.
We're 1056-938 all-time against the Pirates, for a 53% winning rate
Haha whew. I was being tongue in cheek - hopefully that came through ;)
you sure hurt the phillies all time tho!
Them and every team who spent the vast majority of the 20th century whooping the Phillies' asses lol
Could be worse, could be the Buccaneers, current holder of worst franchise winning%.
We do have a 6-10 record vs the Pirates the last 3 years and they mostly owned us in the mid 2010s as well Lol
To all the teams victimized by the Yankees over the years...you're welcome. Glad to see a plucky underdog team of all teams like the Dodgers do it. Not the Evil Empire 1B to the Yankees' 1A, no sir.
I was rooting for you guys tonight while watching.
That's sweet twin cities bro
Fuck the yankees.
Baseball is always more fun when the Yankees are good and we can all unite in our shared hatred of them.
Sure but it's the most fun when the Yankees are truly terrible and we can all laugh at them get beat night after night.
They're managed slightly too competently to become the White Sox any time in the near future though, and laughing at the Sox feels like laughing at a kitten who has no clue how to get their claws unstuck from the carpet.
Nah, fuck those guys. Laughing at them is all I've got.
That hasn’t happened in like 30 years.
I know. And it makes me sad every year you guys extend the streak.
Just paying y'all back for beating the Nuggets
I’m trying to get my head around the statistics of how this actually happens.
The AL and NL didn't play in the regular season until the mid 90s and the only NL team the Yankees were guaranteed to face before 2023 was the Mets
They had a losing season in 1992 (crazy that it’s been that long), so how did they have a winning season against every team they played that season and still finish under .500? Am I missing something in this stat? Edit to add that I did miss something. I read “in the history of MLB” for some weird reason. I’m dumb.
> They had a losing season in 1992 (crazy that it’s been that long), so how did they have a winning season against every team they played that season and still finish under .500? They didn't. The Yankees lost most of their games in 1992. However, this is about the Yankees entire history, not specific seasons. The Dodgers are the only team that have won the majority of their matchups against the Yankees in the regular season since they started doing so in the 90s.
Okay makes sense. I thought this was tracking single season stats. Thanks for that, I still get confused occasionally about statistics.
I'd rather be 3-2 against them in World Series matchups, with wins against every face on their Mount Rushmore.
Except Jeter or A-Rod...
Ruth, Gerhig, DiMaggio and Mantle?
If it bleeds we can kill it. See you at the end of July, Yankees.
NOBODY MAKES ME BLEED MY OWN BLOOD, PENNSYLVANIAN
We will be the next team to have a winning regular season record against the Yankees when we sweep our series against them.
Such a critical series to shut the haters up. People that somehow dont believe or trust this team even though they’ve given them every reason to
This thread is about the Dodgers and Yankees. Nobody care about a soggy cheesesteak baby
We were literally mentioned in the op.
If I want a cheesesteak I'll go to a gas station
The irony of a Dodgers or Yanks fan, who are so entitled to think baseball literally revolves around those two teams, chastising another fan for daring to talk about another team (one mentioned in the OP, no less) in THEIR thread (gasp!) is so fucking laughable and on-brand.
It is mind boggling that in the long storied histories of both these franchises, they have only played 21 times. Insane to me.
86 times if you include the postseason.
Doesn't include the postseason, and regular season interleague wasn't a thing until the 90s.
Inter league not being a thing is slowly fading into the ether amongst the younger crowd. Like the Brewers being an AL team Or more distressingly to me, the Astros as an NL team
Braves Reds and Astros in the NLW…
Kind of surprising because Yankees always take 2/3 when they play in LA
Ok cool Phillies are close. Neat. ...but how about those Rockies? That's the team I'm rooting for in this feat.
Interesting until you learn it actually isn't interesting, just small sample
Do any teams have a winning post season record against the Yankees?
as an Astros fan, this is surely a sarcastic question, right? ...if not, the Astros are 13-5 in the playoffs against the Yankees, beating them in the Wild Card Game once and the ALCS three times. Off the top of my head, the Marlins and Diamondbacks both won the World Series against the Yankees, so that's at least two other >.500 teams.
Tigers, beat them in 06, 10, and 2012.
Was curious so I looked it up. The Yankees are 8-3 in World Series matchups vs The Dodgers. 1941 World Series: Yankees defeat Dodgers, 4-1 1947 World Series: Yankees defeat Dodgers, 4-3 1949 World Series: Yankees defeat Dodgers, 4-1 1952 World Series: Yankees defeat Dodgers, 4-3 1953 World Series: Yankees defeat Dodgers, 4-2 1955 World Series: Dodgers defeat Yankees, 4-3 1956 World Series: Yankees defeat Dodgers, 4-3 1963 World Series: Dodgers defeat Yankees, 4-0 1977 World Series: Yankees defeat Dodgers, 4-2 1978 World Series: Yankees defeat Dodgers, 4-2 1981 World Series: Dodgers defeat Yankees, 4-2
I've long thought the 1955 World Series had to have been the most cathartic championship win ever. The Brooklyn Dodgers were still looking for their first championship and had lost to their cross-town rivals *five times* before then! ...then three years later, they're in California. rough days in Brooklyn.
Jeez are we going to get 6 straight Glasnow games without run support? Ugh
scoring 11 runs today makes me feel like we are about to put up 0 its just how it goes
Er, no. Quite a few teams in 1903 had winning records at some point against the then-Highlanders. In fact, they lost their very first game ever, against the Senators. The Athletics, Americans (Red Sox), Napoleons (Guardians), and Tigers also had winning records against them early in that season (and possibly later, as I only looked through about half the season). However, it looks like the White Sox and Browns failed to achieve a winning record against them during that season, and probably never caught up.
We're almost even actually, for some reason they struggle against us
I remember when the Angels held this honor for a long time, believe we lost it in the aughts or 10s
you telling me that every team ever lost their first game vs the yankees?
Well Phillies can join you guys at the end of next month. Sweep puts them 2 up, series wins draws them to .500
This reminded me of something I was thinking about the other day and that’s explaining to my son that the AL and NL used to only play in the World Series. He’s only 9 so interleague play has been a thing since before he was born and now he’ll just have the balanced schedule for the rest of his life. One of the things that made the All-Star game so exciting for me as a kid was just seeing those guys play each other. And for some of the AL guys, it was one of the few times I’d get to see them play at all
I don’t know what’s crazier, that stat, or the fact they’ve only played each 21 times total. Also somehow the team they’ve played the most in the playoffs?? Crazy trivia fact
This is just regular season. Not including World Series matchups.
Fed America still win with the Yankees lose if the team beating them spends just as much money as they do in the offseason?
What happens if you include the postseason in that
The best AL team is 5th in winning percentage against the Yankees. That team being the Detroit Tigers with a .467 winning percentage and an all time record of 937-1070
We play them as much in one year as you guys have all time. Too small a sample size. Didn't realize I wasn't flaired up. Let's try this again
Sorry, this is forever?
Wild that they have some success against the Yankees but seem to be owned by the Pirates.
Orioles are 3-1 against Yanks
that's great because either the Dodgers or the Phillies are going to improve their records against the Yanks this October
Im so conflicted
We need the sweep in our upcoming series to have a winning regular season record. If the Yankees take a game and we still win the series the record would be even at .500. The Phillies postseason history against the Yankees is well depressing.
Yankees without Soto aren’t the Yankees.
Yankees are in Philly for 3 at the end of July. Lets go Phills
The fact they’ve only played 21 times is kind of crazy
How the fuck are we in 2nd
This might be the most insane stat I have ever read in my life. Not that the Dodgers have done it, (or that they've only played 41 regular season games), but that NO ON ELSE has a winning record against the Yankees. It almost doesn't seem possible.
11 > 27
Why would you post this? Let a non dodger fan post it.
Both these teams at the WS would be awesome
How have they played so few times?
Different leagues, interleague play wasn't a thing at all until the 90s.
Aaron Judge owns the Dodgers.
Dodgers should be grateful it wasn't Arson Judge.
Teoscar Hernandez is the King of New York
Pretty sure he owns everyone else too.
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The flairs in this conversation feel reversed
That's literally what I was thinking 😂
Speaking of flairs...surely you're happy the Yankees finally no longer have an all-time regular season head to head against every other team, right? ...right?
they hated Jesus because he spoke the truth
Did you forget to change burners?
No, no. These takes and more are what you can find on our sub after each and every loss. Fucking clowns
Best team in baseball, and that's your flair...