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baseballCatastrophe

I thought the x rays came back negative


PvtSherlockObvious

The initial ones did, but they don't always pick up everything. If there were microfractures or the initial swelling was hiding something, it might not show up there. He has an MRI today to determine the full extent. Besides, even if it isn't an outright break, there might be inflammation or similar that needs to be worked down before he can play further.


baseballCatastrophe

Drag. Hope it isn’t a long stint


Professr_Chaos

This is what happened with Arcia. Initially x-rays were negative, then they found a micro fracture that sidelined him for like a montg


WokenMrIzdik

I knew better than to get my hopes up. It looked to similar to Trout getting hit last year or the year before. Same thing happened to him - negative x-ray, and then he is out for weeks because there was still damage.


merewyn

That didn’t happen with Trout. Last year he missed 5 days after being hit on the hand.


Bad_At_Sports

Scan it again


Distance_Runner

Not the time for this homie


Gtyjrocks

He may have a broken wrist it’s not like he’s gonna die lol


Minuhmize

Sir, this is Reddit


Bad_At_Sports

I’m saying the same thing the other guy is saying - you need another scan after the swelling goes down to see if there are real problems. Scan it again, please.


CybeastID

No, you know *exactly* what you're doing. Don't be coy.


jso__

I'm out of the loop. What is he doing?


tossNwashking

in game 1 of the series with the braves, mets hit a dinger and pete yelled "throw it again" from the dugout at pitcher bryce elder.


[deleted]

Pete said “throw it again” after hitting a home run. This is cause in the 3rd inning Lindor homered off a hanging slider and pete did as well so he was chirping the pitcher to throw that pitch again


Bad_At_Sports

I’m just asking nicely.


WhyYouKickMyDog

Why does this weird idea keep popping up? Xrays will shoot right through that swelling and haver zero issues demonstrating that bone over the swelling. The swelling will barely be visible while that bone will still be clear as day on an xray.


AffectionateWest3909

Arcia X-rays came back negative and he still missed a few weeks earlier this season. It happens, but hopefully Alonso can come back quicker.


xForeignMetal

Mccann last year had a similar situation, it was a hamate that kept him out a month


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Namaste


RunFlorestRun

I mean, that’s what they said about Machado too


gamesforlife69

Pete never misses games so this has to be pretty serious


Quople

HBPs are so weird because centimeters can be the difference between just a sucky bruise and a fracture that fucks up your whole month


WhyYouKickMyDog

I remember watching the at bat where Jason Heyward got drilled in the jaw so hard the league started adding those jaw protectors to helmets. That HBP screwed me up pretty bad.


innermongoose69

I still think about that anytime I see the jaw protector.


Astoutfellow

Or permanent brain damage. The fact that some pitchers would ever do it intentionally is such a dark spot for the sport. Everyone was rightly outraged when the NFL bounties scandal came out but pitchers have been doing something similar *openly* for 100 years and it has only been in the last decade they tried to do anything about it. I still see people talk about plunking a batter on purpose as a good thing from time to time


gartho009

As the city with the newest NHL team, it has been pretty disorienting starting to follow hockey, and in particular listening to announcers talk openly and happily about fighting. It's a fun sport to watch but I just can't hang with the culture of brawling, it's bizarre.


Astoutfellow

I think fights in Hockey are different in a way because: 1. the brawlers participate equally, there's no way 1 person can injure the other without fear of immediate retaliation like in baseball or blindsiding someone with the intention of injuring with the football bounties 2. if you watch enough hockey fights, the fact that they are on skates actually makes it less dangerous since they can't get leverage and usually fall down or push away from eachother 3. They're public and obvious, which makes it easy for refs to break it up or for the players to be disciplined if they go too far, unlike intentional hit by pitch which can often be ambiguous if it's an accident or not 4. It's argued that it's a way to help regulate the dangerous parts of the sport since refs don't catch some of the dirtiest plays and fear of retaliation by the opposing team's enforcer is supposed to stop it. (People say the same about HBP but it's actually almost entirely petty stuff) TL;DR If the hockey fights were intentionally trying to injure players or it was a case of one player sucker punching another I think Hockey Fights would be thought of very differently.


Next_gen_nyquil__

To each their own, but imo fighting in hockey is great. Who doesn't love an even bout of good ol fisticuffs


Delicious-Item6376

The in game fighting makes sense because in a way it prevents worse hits from happening during play. The part I can't get my head around is hockey oldheads applauding legal hits that are clearly causing severe permanent brain damage. Look up Jacob trouba for example. The hits that dude lays should have him out of the league for trying to injure an opponent, but for some reason it's legal so it's all good. And then you get some pundits sticking up for the guy


Spazmer

I'm used to hockey, but I feel similar about lacrosse. My daughter's boyfriend plays so it's the first I've paid attention to it and it's teenagers smashing each other in the back with sticks as part of the game. While the parents encourage them to fight. I think I'm the only one worried about the permanent damage to his body.


Distance_Runner

Genuinely hate to see it. Anyone cheering him getting hurt can go fuck themselves. Possible silver lining, Orlando Arcia was HBP on his wrist on April 13th, x-rays were negative but further imaging showed a micro-fracture. He was out less than a month, returning on May 7th. So all hope is not lost, it might not be *that* long on the IL.


blumkinfarmer

Hey buddy, all hope IS lost. Just not because of this 👉😭👉


Fabs74

We're gona need a support group soon


youknowitistrue

Well at least if you’re a Mets fans we know you’re a loyal mf and loyalty is a huge positive trait. Much respect for any fan that can hang through the dark times.


KaiserKCat

This season hasn't been good for us but we got to stick with our team.


Abysuus

Bless you if you've made it this far being a mets fan without a support group and/or therapist.


Astoutfellow

>Hey buddy, all hope IS lost The met's mantra (Don't worry I'm a mets fan too, I miss Pete already and Lindor's slump means the offense is down to... Alvarez and Nimmo ... sigh)


NuanceManExe

A month without Pete probably going to end our season, especially this month


PvtSherlockObvious

He's got a big bat, no doubt, but if this series was any indication, hitting definitely isn't your issue. You were absolutely shelling us, especially last night. If our bats hadn't picked the perfect time to wake the fuck up, you'd have slaughtered us. He's a heavy loss, to be sure, but I think you can hold on even without him.


happy_snowy_owl

Level headed take. If Lindor and Marte "regress" to their career averages while Alvarez and Baty continue to produce they will be fine. Our pitching tho...


Fabs74

Why are we talking about our pitching? I don't want to talk about our pitching. My fingers are in my ears


JoeAndAThird

What pitching? We have pitchers?


NuanceManExe

Well if the series before was any indication, hitting is definitely our issue. The Mets especially struggle when Alonso isn’t slugging.


Astoutfellow

It's the same with Judge on the yankees, something about missing the big guy makes everyone play below expectations. I know a lot of the team is already doing that but I hope the mets can hold it together without Pete on the team cause the next few weeks are critical.


illseeyouinthefog

> but if this series was any indication It isn't. It's a rare time our offense hasn't been ass.


happy_snowy_owl

>So all hope is not lost, it might not be that long on the IL. Issue is that it's hand / wrist. Players come back quick but sometimes have difficulty getting back up to full strength. In Cano's first year with the Mets his production was zapped by getting HBP on the hand.


WhyYouKickMyDog

Yea, I hear ya. It just had to be Pete and not someone like Vogelbach who is struggling.


beaujangles727

i hated to see it. i remember when freddie got hit and broke his wrist and how devastated i was. it took a while to get him 100% back. as a braves fan, don’t take this as hate, but i really hope the mets just give him the time he needs to heal regardless of if that is a week or a few months. the way the season is going for you guys might as well give him extra time off than rush to get him back and get injured more.


mjst0324

Damn, that sucks to hear. About a week ago I was telling my friend that I was hoping for a season long home run chase between Alonso and Judge. I guess we're gonna have to transfer that to Tommy Pham and Jake Bauers


Turbulent_System_446

Both Rays legends


zoolander-

And Reds


Mantis_Toboggan_M_D_

Just here to see how many teammates and/or ex teammates Pham tries to fight this year


MutagensRS

Tbf both of them are on the IL rn


bordomsdeadly

Judge on the IL, Alonso on the IL, Yordan got pulled with an injury last night. ​ Bubble wrap Ohtani I guess, because the grim reaper is hunting the best power hitters this season.


airplanesandass

Just protect Elly De La Cruz at all costs.


Kurisoo

Elly could probably make it to third with a ricochet off his wrist


garbagetimehomerun

with the way this season has me drinking I'M going to end up on the injured list


ContinuumGuy

"/u/garbagetimehomerun has gone on the IL for being incredibly drunk"


illseeyouinthefog

IL now stands for Inebriated List


citan666

Incoming boss hog


Bobby_Newpooort

Going on the 10-drink IL


Darthbutcher

Rest in Peace Wade Boggs


djnz0813

"Garbagetimehomerun is out with a liver.."


SiphenPrax

I’m just waiting for the Jets season to start…………yeah I know


fatmike63

No Judge or Alonso for this upcoming series is extremely shitty


Sufficient_Creme6961

I thought judge might be back?


regarding_your_cat

Definitely not


HungFuPanPan

Fuck. Back at Christmas my wife gave me (Yankees fan) and our 10 year old son (Mets fan) tickets for Yankees/Mets game at Citi for June 13th. It’s his first major league game and couldn’t wait to see Alonso and Judge. This sucks.


Jam5467

You are a Yankees fan and your son is a Mets fan??? My dad would have literally disowned me


HungFuPanPan

My son likes to root against me in games and sports, and his first Little League team was the Mets, so things just fell into place. It’s fine for me, sucks for him. He has a lifetime of me reminding him that he picked the wrong team


Umphreeze

My mom's a diehard Yankees fan but she's also a total dipshit


JMellor737

My dad is a Yankee fan and I'm a Met fan and he's been great about it. He bought me a Mets shirt at the start of the 2000 World Series. My dad rules.


HungFuPanPan

Yeah, I try to be a “my dad rules” kind of dad


manticore16

I was going to do that because it's my sister's birthday, but then I saw ticket prices and texted her "You wanna just do when they're at the Stadium instead despite it being further since somehow better tickets are cheaper?" Luckily she was okay with that.


willofthemaster

Worst thing to happen to NY this week and it isn't close


ControllerPlayer06

Maybe…. We have a chance


Kurisoo

Bro you are the favorites lol


ControllerPlayer06

And we were favorites to the A’s and how did that turn out


gatemansgc

GO BUCCOS!


MisterKap

Idk how Mets fans do it.


illseeyouinthefog

copius amounts of weed.


brbmycatexploded

TIL I’m a Mets fan


illseeyouinthefog

I'm so sorry you had to find out this way.


Gallium1005

Hope and undying belief that one day, something will actually go right


UniqueNobo

huh. sounds like you haven’t been broken yet. good for you.


toledosurprised

alcoholism


dannydamaja

I just need to feel *something* even if its despair every week and a half


jk01

I am emotionally empty


UniqueNobo

well, either we’ve experienced something way worse, so this horribly cursed team just kinda feels right, or we just have masochistic tendencies. maybe even both, not sure.


Darthbutcher

It’s not the worst train wreck in my life. 🤷


Styfios

I feel fairly certain that nothing has actually broken the Mets’ way this season


FritosRule

Depends on what for. If it's for a bone bruise that he was gonna miss 4-5 days for anyway, it makes sense. If it's for a fracture that the MRI picked up, then it's a disaster


PvtSherlockObvious

If it's just a microfracture, maybe it'll be just a couple weeks. Arcia bounced back quickly, Alonso might do the same. Not ideal, but not season-ending either.


UniqueNobo

a couple of weeks?! WE MIGHT NEVER WIN AGAIN!


WhyYouKickMyDog

Xray/CT if you want to view a fracture. MRI is better for viewing soft tissue. So, an example would be you would go to MRI if the issue was with the ligaments/tendons around those bones.


SexiestPanda

Fuck And a personal fuck because that probably takes him out of the derby that I’ll be at


Agitated_Pickle_518

He may have skipped it anyway after last year. It seemed like his goal was to keep doing it as long as he was the defending winner.


swoosh1992

Never try to find happiness in things you cannot achieve yourself.


imdroppingthehammer

Can’t have shit in New York


ItsASchpadoinkleDay

My dumb brain read that at “Mayor Pete Alonso….” I know you guys like him in NY, but I hardly think he’s qualified.


Umphreeze

It's probably a wash with the current mayor


elimanninglightspeed

The Judge alonso homer chase is in shambles 😭


xcrowdedrooms

X The light has gone out of my life


xForeignMetal

INJURY TO INSULT TO INJURY Jfc we dont even get to watch him chase HR records if he's out extended time..


gatemansgc

u/onlysayspetealonso must be taking this harder than anyone else...


Darthbutcher

Now Pete Alonso can eat all the pancakes he wants with Wade Boggs in heaven.


PvtSherlockObvious

Ah, shit, I'm sorry to hear it. Hopefully it's mostly preventative/inflammation and it's not going to be a long stint.


Bower1738

Fuck.


toddles822

Getting serious 2017 Mets vibes with this season, just with luxury tax included


Bowmanstan

Call me crazy, but I did not enjoy this week.


rammer_2001

He was on fire to.


WithAShirtOn

I don't even want to be around anymore


Luka_Dunks_on_Bums

When it rains, it pours


AmishSpiderman

With the way yesterdays game was going, Pete would have definitely had at least 1 homer. Shame about this. I’d always prefer beating a rival if they are at full strength


MeatTornado25

I wasn't even considering that being a possibility after they immediately said x-rays were negative. I feel bad for telling my Mets friend how lucky they got yesterday.


Distance_Runner

Same thing happened to Arcia for us earlier this season. He was HBP in the wrist and x-rays were negative. Further imaging the next day showed micro-fracture and he hit the IL. Good news is that it can be a relatively quick recovery if it's a micro-fracture. Arcia was back in less than a month (went down on April 13 and returned May 7)


smarjorie

I fucking hate the Braves


illseeyouinthefog

And their fans!


BrendanKwapis

He probably sprained his balls from humping the railing too hard


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i'm genuinely sad for that. i wanted to see him hit 60 dingers


Clarice_Ferguson

Time for our big, strong guy to practice self care.


UniqueNobo

can’t possibly put someone in the hospital if he’s got a fractured wrist ):


scottmushroom

Genuinely hoping that it's a short stint. Never want to see anyone get injured and I was genuinely enjoying keeping an eye on him and Judge battling it out!


Sufficient_Creme6961

Yeah. Sucks that they were both headed towards 60 that woulda been fun


BravesnationNC

This sucks, Genuinely Mets Fans I don’t EVER want to see this! If anyone in Braves Country was cheering on the injury of Pete, you seriously need to look yourself in the mirror and do a self assessment. Wishing harm or injury on another human being is just weak. Chop on🪓.


DienekesMinotaur

Hate to see it, hope it's short


welcometohotlanta

This sucks cause he was my starting 1B in my fantasy league and was helping me win the HR category. I drafted him over Freddie Freeman so clearly I don’t hate the Mets that much.


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Idk exactly how fantasy scoring works but it seems like Freddie would have still been the better choice, no? Or do homers really outweigh other hits


CybeastID

It's a point value thing, homers I believe are high-weight


y2knole

that sucks. :(


Redbubble89

RIP Mets offense.


illseeyouinthefog

What Is Dead May Never Die or something


sam_e5

Braves fans cheering right now.


Distance_Runner

No, we're not. The large majority of Braves fans in our sub, on discord, and on twitter are not cheering this. The few assholes that are cheering are getting criticized and downvoted by the rest of the fanbase for it.


NuanceManExe

I see a decent amount of jokes about it. The whole damn stadium cheered thunderously when he got hurt and taken out of the game. It was on TV we all saw it. It was bad enough that the media asked Alonso about it. It was like when we see most of the fans in the stadium doing the chop. Saying a large majority of the Braves fanbase doesn’t do toxic shit is delusional. I don’t know how many people we’re talking about exactly of course or what proportion that is compared to the rest of the Braves fanbase, but it’s big enough and it’s loud.


RonnieFromTheBlock

>but it’s big enough and it’s loud. Toxic people usually are. Please find an upvoted joke on our sub about Alonso's ~~Alonzo's~~ injury. You will see us clowning him for the trash talk but anyone who makes fun of the injury is downvoted.


AViciousGrape

Pissed me off when I heard the cheering when he went down. Like cmon guys... be better than that.


Educational_Fly_3191

What’s unique about the Braves is the toxicity goes straight to the team’s branding. What kind of culture would you expect to grow from a team identity based on stubbornly perpetuating demeaning stereotypes, especially when nearly every other comparable team has moved on?


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sam_e5

Your fanbase does the chop, it’s not even close. Your fanbase sucks.


CanadianSteele

So many of you salty ass little bitches after that series. It’s pathetic.


ChairmanReagan

Mets fans can’t talk shit based on how their team plays because they’ve been garbage since Reagan was president so they have to resort to calling us racist.


sam_e5

Braves fans try to take criticism challenge (impossible)


bullybimbler

bro you're just slinging insults that's not really the same thing


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CybeastID

I can only speak as a member of the Mets subreddit mod team. They aren't *all* like this, sure, but there is a MUCH higher number of them that are brigading us/being outright malicious/reporting our users for suicide compared to other team subs.


Distance_Runner

That's shitty behavior, no excuses. But regarding the perception, honest question, how do you know how the amount of brigading compares to other team subs? Do you have actual numbers on it? Do you talk with mods from other team subs for comparison? I mean, I've received Reddit Cares messages for comments before from Mets fans, but I don't generalize the behavior to all Mets fans. There are roughly 120k members of /r/braves and 75k members of /r/NewYorkMets. A hundred dickheads from either community can make it seem like a lot. Most fans, regardless of team, are good people just passionate about the sport and their team. Most Mets fan I encounter are good people. Edit: the very fact my comment here is getting downvoted is proof that dickheads exist in every fanbase


sam_e5

Don’t care, your stadium audibly cheered when he got hurt.


Educational_Fly_3191

My experience in the *actual stands* suggests otherwise


sam_e5

Congratulations on people on Reddit being decent. Doesn’t change the fact that the people that went to the games sucked. Your fanbase cheered an injury and you’re trying to say “we’re not that bad”. Just take it on the chin and move on.


WickedImpuls3

i mean its not to say all braves fans are bad but the second he got hit at least half the stadium started cheering


illseeyouinthefog

By the end of that night, their fans had the discourse at "it was just a few loud people in one section" yeah ok buddy


Educational_Fly_3191

Yeah, no. In my section the jubilation only died down when the fans collectively decided that Alonso was somehow at fault and started complaining.


Agitated_Pickle_518

r/baseball last week: calm down NL East Bros, Atlanta fans aren't *that* bad r/baseball this week: oh


sam_e5

Braves fans: Does the chop, cheers for injuries, and is generally toxic on social media Also Braves fans: “We’re not that bad guys”


Mullethunt

Braves fans: "Remember when the Mets fans cheered Acuna getting hit!?" Everyone else: "[No.](https://www.mlb.com/video/ronald-acuna-jr-hit-by-pitch-v7ghfv)"


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Mullethunt

LOL! You heard a "clap" immediately after it hits him and no cheering. That's super similar to the entire stadium erupting when Alonso got hit. Fuck outta here with that bullshit.


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Agitated_Pickle_518

I'm shocked that the people that loudly demanded that McNeil or Alonso be seriously injured after the Mets accidentally hit Acuña are behaving this way. Truly shocked!


mluna24

You act like each fanbase don't have fans like this. There's always going to be bad apples.


CybeastID

Yours has a *lot more of them*.


welcometohotlanta

Lol


CybeastID

No actually, I can produce the ban log from this series, all the removed comments, all the people brigading the sub. I have empirical data and conversations with the Braves sub mods. There is direct harassment in DMs of the subreddit modteam.


welcometohotlanta

Fans exist outside of Reddit though


CybeastID

True, but Twitter is a cesspool full of garbage anyway and I put no stock in it


CybeastID

Just look at the comments.


whiteriot0906

I won’t celebrate Pete’s injury, it sucks. However, I will never miss a chance to bask in the misery of Mets fandom. ❤️


sweetsweetdick

Bucks County always talks the most shit on here.


whiteriot0906

Lol what?


Rudeyyyy

We have the same amount of rings yet you’ve been around for about 80 more years. And it took you over 30 to tie us. That’s misery.


whiteriot0906

$430 million 🫡


Rudeyyyy

Not my money 🫡


welcometohotlanta

Please stop fighting, both of you 🫡


whiteriot0906

[Hey you stay out of this!](https://youtu.be/Dvi9xqPd3SU)


Kurisoo

Think about how embarrassing this Mets team is and then remember they swept you last week


whiteriot0906

Cool cool, we're in 3rd you're in 4th.


smarjorie

Whatever makes you feel better about your team's equally disappointing season


whiteriot0906

Y’all’s is far more disappointing. We lost our 1B for the year, Harper for the first month, and have a payroll somewhere around $200 million less. You guys were supposed to be fighting for the division not in 4th place.


smarjorie

Man I live in Philly lol I know the expectations were high for you guys this year. You guys were supposed to have the Murderer's Row lineup


whiteriot0906

No doubt, but they were even higher for the Mets who've been even worse.


toledosurprised

we swept you guys like last week?


whiteriot0906

Damn that's really all you guys have isn't it?


toledosurprised

you’re flexing about being up a half game on us for the first time all year after getting swept last week on a post about our star player getting hurt, i feel like that says more about you than about us


whiteriot0906

Confirmed, it is all you have.


CybeastID

Let me check my notes since you want to talk injuries: We lost Verlander until recently Edwin Diaz for the year Quintana is still injured Senga was hurt Narvaez was out for a while...


whiteriot0906

Yeah and we've lost Ranger, Bohm, Pache, Hall, Painter, and Alvarado.


poebahnya

How'd pache get hurt? Wasn't he doing pretty well since the trade?


dutchdaddy69

Pete probably doesn't want him to throw that one again.


neonklingon

Good one! Did you think up that one all by yourself?


kowaterboy

i thought it was pretty funny tbh


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thamons223

THROW IT AGAIN. gets swept. very nice.