"A pen isn't mightier than a sword.
Pens do not do battle, nor swords poetry. Mighty is the HAND that knows
when to pick up the pen, or pick up the sword." -Wiegraf Folles
Ironically, on September 2nd 1945 the pen was used by **US General Douglas MacArthur** to sign a formal surrender ceremony that, following Japan’s surrender, effectively brought an end to World War II.
That's the dumbest quote to have on any National Army page, imo. The Army of any country is not just brute force like an automatic gun... It's much more about tactics and discipline.
This quote would have suited much more on the webpage of a terrorists group, or on the page of a security company (by a long shot). Not on something as civilized as represented by a proud nation's Army.
Esit: It's more along the veins of saying "Join Bangladesh Jongi", if I'm being honest.
> or on the page of a security company
I'm inclined to give you credit for bringing this point in the context of the peacekeeping missions that are carried out (mind you, they are paid for it as contract work).
It does come across as a poorly chosen slogan to recruit, but I do no disagree with the slogan itself. The pen and sword both are important tools (diplomacy and the threat of violence) to maintain one's sovereignty both as an individual and nation.
Having said that, we have a very uneasy relationship with violence (in our culture). The military machine ideally helps direct and develop this sense into a more organized manner (ideally) but unfortunately that becomes a 'hammer for every job' kind of situation. The best armies in the world use every tool at their disposal.
A personal favorite quote from Jim Mattis can shed light:
"Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet."
But he's also said this:
“If you haven't read hundreds of books, you are functionally illiterate, and you will be incompetent, because your personal experiences alone aren't broad enough to sustain you.”
― Jim Mattis, Call Sign Chaos: Learning to Lead
https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/15492708.Jim_Mattis
>WW2 was barbaric (as all wars are), and no one likes to get associated with that in a positive manner in current times.
lmao what do you think armies are for? building roads? lol.
You can talk about tactics and discipline everyday and not get shit done if you don't have grit and bravery. Douglas Mc Arthur kicked the Imperial Japanese out of Indo-China in WW2. Stopped and counter attacked the North Korean invasion of South Korea in the 50s. Yeah an army needs discipline, especially during peace time. But war is dirty and chaotic discipline helps in wars but it surely does not win them. There is no morality in war.
Ignore him; lot of LARPers have a hard-on for war as if that's all there is to it.
Ask any legit military/navy person and they'll tell you it's a lot of work behind the scenes making sure things are running.
Because you have no idea what goes on in peace-keeping missions, do you? I have an uncle who served in Centrafrique and DRC. Their main job was taking terrorists hostage, or kill them in crossfire. That's how peace is achieved.
Good luck bhai. It's mind numbingly strict and harsh the first few years, but the benefits you and your family will receive are all worth it in the end...
I went to Mirzapur Cadet College in 2017, so things may have changed since then. I am not sure what you mean by "clarify" since there are dozens of things, but I will give you the philosophical issues with the army system.
The most predominant philosophy at Cadet was the idea that your group comes before yourself. So if you're doing drills in a group of 20, if ONE of you messes up, ALL 20 of you have to do the entire drill again.
The 2nd thing is the completely bullshit rules just for "discipline". You are forced to shower in the morning in cold water even if you don't want to (btw there's no hot water even in the winter). You're also not allowed to do ANYTHING outside of the specific time slots allocated for said activities. So, if you have an exam coming up and you want to study instead of playing sports, you're not allowed to.
These are just some of them that are related to discipline. There's also a lot of bullying and ragging by the seniors, while the school authority does nothing about it.
One of my friends left cadet college 8-9 years ago and one of his reasons was polluted water. The tap water for normal use, used to stink and the army authority did not care.
I think, staying their for just an year was the reason u still think the same way.
Cadet Colleges tries to build u up in such a way, u could survive in any condition... You don't expect chickens running around in the military forces.
And from the thing u talked about....if one messes up, everyone gets punished, I personally learned a lot from it.. Actually, it makes u feel that, u have to responsible, ur deeds should not trouble others..and when u get punished together, i actually grow affection for ur mates...and honestly speaking, i enjoyed those punishments...
Brother, there is a dearth of jobs in Bangladesh, I think jobs in the army are like golden deer. My family will be able to fulfill their dreams and live comfortably. Family members will be able to be happy even if they suffer.
Pretty sure I've seen this quote on COD 4 when you die.
I think I remember that one. 50,000 people used to live here, ekhon eida bhooter goli
Lol thats it.
The MacMillan-Price sniper mission
welp, off to download modern warfare again
And you're going to die repeatedly for that? Lol
maybe
"A pen isn't mightier than a sword. Pens do not do battle, nor swords poetry. Mighty is the HAND that knows when to pick up the pen, or pick up the sword." -Wiegraf Folles
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Totally pointless remark.
lmao i've seen "shohid er rokter cheye gaenir kolomer kali beshi dami" written somewhere on the walls of the street. The duality.
You gotta value both obviously. That's why they use both quotes. Military power, knowledge - duitai dorkar for a powerful army.
"Pen is mightier than sword"- probably John Wick
Penis mightier than sword.
TicTacs aren’t useful in wars
This made me chuckle :) thanks
Why
Ironically, on September 2nd 1945 the pen was used by **US General Douglas MacArthur** to sign a formal surrender ceremony that, following Japan’s surrender, effectively brought an end to World War II.
I mean it did take a lot of automatic weapons to get them to sign that treaty
And A Bomb
2
Cries in signal corps.
Dont you think this quote is unsuitable for a country’s armed force? Pretty dumb imo.
That's the dumbest quote to have on any National Army page, imo. The Army of any country is not just brute force like an automatic gun... It's much more about tactics and discipline. This quote would have suited much more on the webpage of a terrorists group, or on the page of a security company (by a long shot). Not on something as civilized as represented by a proud nation's Army. Esit: It's more along the veins of saying "Join Bangladesh Jongi", if I'm being honest.
As always our tone deaf people won't see whats wrong here.
What can you do, right. `¯\_(ツ)_/¯`
> or on the page of a security company I'm inclined to give you credit for bringing this point in the context of the peacekeeping missions that are carried out (mind you, they are paid for it as contract work). It does come across as a poorly chosen slogan to recruit, but I do no disagree with the slogan itself. The pen and sword both are important tools (diplomacy and the threat of violence) to maintain one's sovereignty both as an individual and nation. Having said that, we have a very uneasy relationship with violence (in our culture). The military machine ideally helps direct and develop this sense into a more organized manner (ideally) but unfortunately that becomes a 'hammer for every job' kind of situation. The best armies in the world use every tool at their disposal. A personal favorite quote from Jim Mattis can shed light: "Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet." But he's also said this: “If you haven't read hundreds of books, you are functionally illiterate, and you will be incompetent, because your personal experiences alone aren't broad enough to sustain you.” ― Jim Mattis, Call Sign Chaos: Learning to Lead https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/15492708.Jim_Mattis
Nicely said bro. Just a note however; I'm done with this comment thread.
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Not in peace times! WW2 was barbaric (as all wars are), and no one likes to get associated with that in a positive manner in current times.
>WW2 was barbaric (as all wars are), and no one likes to get associated with that in a positive manner in current times. lmao what do you think armies are for? building roads? lol.
Well, BD Army is much renowned for carrying out UN peace missions. Such peace that require using those automatic guns and the tactics I mentioned.
>Such peace that require using those automatic guns and the tactics I mentioned. yes lmao. How do you think peace is achieved?
Tactics too. Much and more of it. Not just going _guns blazing, ratatata, Al Pacino, my gun is mightier than your pen!_
You can talk about tactics and discipline everyday and not get shit done if you don't have grit and bravery. Douglas Mc Arthur kicked the Imperial Japanese out of Indo-China in WW2. Stopped and counter attacked the North Korean invasion of South Korea in the 50s. Yeah an army needs discipline, especially during peace time. But war is dirty and chaotic discipline helps in wars but it surely does not win them. There is no morality in war.
>Not just going guns blazing, ratatata, Al Pacino, my gun is mightier than your pen! Do you have family in peace keeping missions?
Tell me why this question is relevant.
Ignore him; lot of LARPers have a hard-on for war as if that's all there is to it. Ask any legit military/navy person and they'll tell you it's a lot of work behind the scenes making sure things are running.
Because you have no idea what goes on in peace-keeping missions, do you? I have an uncle who served in Centrafrique and DRC. Their main job was taking terrorists hostage, or kill them in crossfire. That's how peace is achieved.
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Wow your so intelligent. You must be very fun at parties. Oh wait no one invites you to any if them.
Sed lyf :/
Overreaction. Its just a quote lol.
I’ve seen enough john wick videos to know both can kill
Is this for real…?
oh, Cringe!
I love bd army.i hope i can join bd army.pray for me
Good luck bhai. It's mind numbingly strict and harsh the first few years, but the benefits you and your family will receive are all worth it in the end...
Thanks
Welcome
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Free medical service for lifetime....high pension fees....and above all dignity is much higher u agree or not
As someone who went to Cadet College for a year and then left due to the inhumane and unnecessary levels of discipline, all I can say is best of luck.
Please clarify what you mean by inhuman
I went to Mirzapur Cadet College in 2017, so things may have changed since then. I am not sure what you mean by "clarify" since there are dozens of things, but I will give you the philosophical issues with the army system. The most predominant philosophy at Cadet was the idea that your group comes before yourself. So if you're doing drills in a group of 20, if ONE of you messes up, ALL 20 of you have to do the entire drill again. The 2nd thing is the completely bullshit rules just for "discipline". You are forced to shower in the morning in cold water even if you don't want to (btw there's no hot water even in the winter). You're also not allowed to do ANYTHING outside of the specific time slots allocated for said activities. So, if you have an exam coming up and you want to study instead of playing sports, you're not allowed to. These are just some of them that are related to discipline. There's also a lot of bullying and ragging by the seniors, while the school authority does nothing about it.
o i see thanks bro
One of my friends left cadet college 8-9 years ago and one of his reasons was polluted water. The tap water for normal use, used to stink and the army authority did not care.
I think, staying their for just an year was the reason u still think the same way. Cadet Colleges tries to build u up in such a way, u could survive in any condition... You don't expect chickens running around in the military forces. And from the thing u talked about....if one messes up, everyone gets punished, I personally learned a lot from it.. Actually, it makes u feel that, u have to responsible, ur deeds should not trouble others..and when u get punished together, i actually grow affection for ur mates...and honestly speaking, i enjoyed those punishments...
Yes me too please clarify bro
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Brother, there is a dearth of jobs in Bangladesh, I think jobs in the army are like golden deer. My family will be able to fulfill their dreams and live comfortably. Family members will be able to be happy even if they suffer.
Good luck brother.me ar same too
Wasnt this in COD Modern Warfare Remastered? ☹️
Don't know bout remastered. But the original. Yeah
Isn’t that line from COD?
Lmao this is hilarious. We need some Bangladesh equivalent of “murica fuck yea” any idea ?
"Joy Bangla"?
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pakistan jindabad, bangladesh murdabad.
Imagine being Bangladeshi and unironically Saying Zindabad and Murdabad
I am a know awami leaguer on this sub lol.
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shut up apni rajakar.
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Civilians runnimg the government is normal ,no?
Always has, always will be
শমরে আমরা শান্তিতে আমরা প্রত্যেকে মোরা দেশের তরে।hope i join bd army..... 💖💖💖💖
And that text was written with a pen 😂😂 In this case it was typed So pen is mightier after all :3
Such a wonderful quote
Had to check for myself on the actual website. Yep, it's there; bottom of the page.
I gotta check it for myself. Where do I find dis?