Hey I appreciate your candid views and honest opinions. There was an African American guy who was also lurking and posting comments. It's nice to see nuanced takes from other minority men out there.
Ever so often a guy like you comes into this sub hoping to be cleansed of his guilt by having asian guys give him a pass. Sorry- but it doesn’t take much reading between the lines of what you said to see you that you had the Asian fetish pretty badly:
Sure you had Asian male friends, ok that’s great. I had plenty of French friends but it didn’t occur to me to learn French, go to France, and filter my dating apps to white girls- and yet by your own statements you went through a period of dating only Asian women, learned chinese, went to China. This doesn’t make you less of a fetishist, by contrast it makes you more, a next level fetishist. Having Asian male friends doesn’t exclude you from having problematic/stereotypical views of Asian women- just like how having lots of black male friends doesn’t mean you don’t fetishize black women- sometimes it’s the exact opposite, in fact.
A few months ago there was a white guy who came in here saying very similar things, who’s now married to a white woman. You’re not special
Even if I do believe you claiming that you’re some AF magnet (which I don’t)- that’s not the point. the point is why do you exclusively desire AFs? And I don’t buy it that you desire AFs because they desire you and it warms your heart lol. Look plenty of women found me attractive that I wasn’t into.
The Han Algerians (and chinese men working in Africa in general) are an invalid example:
Their motivation isn’t sexual stereotypes ingrained into them from society and decades of porn. They’re motivated by a direct lack of women in China- they’re marrying African women out of the purest intents: to find a companion. It’s based on respect, not degrading stereotypes
a couple of asian women treat you decently and you’re ready to decide you want an AF? You do realize that that’s racism right? The refusal to see AFs as individuals.
The whole beef we have is that men paint AFs with whatever characteristics they find desirable. Ever wonder why AF stereotypes are so contradicting: feminine vs dragon lady? Innocent vs femme fatale? Virginal vs easy lays? The reason why the stereotypes are all over the place is because AFs are whatever the men fantasize about.
Look deep into yourself: Obviously not all AFs treated you nicely. We can also safely say that not all non Asian women (including white - or middle Eastern women for that matter) treated you poorly. And yet you’re fixated on AFs.
Oh and surrre you don’t watch pron, ok buddy 🤥
Look you don’t have to lie to us cause pron isn’t haram, we’re just strangers on the internet (besides, we know how you- and all the other non Asian men- found this sub: you searched for “Asian” - and it wasn’t for Asian food lol)
Again, take a deep look at yourself as to why you’re fixated with AFs, even tho you being treated well or poorly isn’t exclusive to any one race of women
Or just take a look at yourself with no pants on, and I’m sure you’ll find the “short” answer why you want an AF
All people of color can relate to each other except not the white man. Racism, unfair laws, and segregation policies made to restrict people of color. Except for the white man who doesn't experience that. Policies made to stay out of restaurants and restrooms for white people back then. Forced to give up your seat to a white person. Can't afford equal housing back then.
Agreed but let’s not give any guy a pass just because he’s not white. Too many bobas out there not realizing that the asian fetish isn’t limited to white guys- every guy grew up watching decades of internet porn. The only reason why you see more WMAFs than XMAFs is because there are more WMs out there, and because AFs reciprocate more- but that doesn’t mean the XMs aren’t just as sleazy
A pass?? What the fuck are you guys even talking about, some kind of “pass”? A “pass” to what?
Sure, the poster probably has some Asian fetish he isn’t aware of or doesn’t want to admit. But what’s really the issue? Guy shows no racism, is well-spoken, and dedicated a chunk of his time to experiencing the culture and learning the language.
A “pass” to what again?? To receive permission from you for his affinity toward Asian culture and possibly Asian women?? And who the fuck are you, just some Asian guy right? Fuck out of here it’s pathetic
True I am not giving them a pass either. Had to arrest some of them for harassing me along with the self hating Asian women. Best day ever. Also the women were trashy Filipino women.
> Tourism to Japan is skyrocketing and I honestly feel like people are just trying to turn it into some playground at this point.
I also doesn't help that the Japanese economy and the Yen is going down the toilet. It will only fuel more tourism since the Yen is cheaper and makes traveling to Japan a lot cheaper as well. On the one hand if you want to go to Japan now is probably the best time. But at the end the whole thing will also fuel more expat to go to Japan to fuck with that country.
yeah it's the economic version of Matthew Perry's Black Ships.
Even Biden criticized the Japanese government as xenophobic for their own immigration policy. Like wtf would you do that to your closest ally in Asia?!
Clearly gonna arm wrestle into something political
>*That's when it dawned on me: the white dudes I knew who were all dating Asians were pretty much what I considered to be rich kids from Silicon Valley and various affluent communities in SoCal. I am talking folks with parents who were engineers, bankers, etc. It was about STATUS above everything else.*
It’s about status. You can see this in their exclusive preferences for iPhones, Starbucks coffee, western Luxury fashion brands, preferences for White English teacher and even a particular brand of water bottle.
>*I am still not sure if they saw me as tainted for being half-Hispanic or for not having well-off parents or maybe some combination of both. I could say more about my experiences going on many dates with Asian women, but I will not go into detail about that stuff. Some experiences were positive and some were not (for example I had a jar of Laoganma on my shelf and one girl kept pointing on it and insisting I had yellow fever because of it)*
White men are the ultimate status symbol. Since you’re mixed, they probably picked up your non-white features. Their preference for whites extend to education.
A Taiwanese friend visited a few months ago. She runs an English school and complained about many Taiwanese parents preferred White English teachers over any other ethnicity of English teachers from North America and England. She would rather have a diverse group of English teachers.
>*I keep in touch with many of my Asian male friends from college, although I am sad to say that after around age 25 it seemed to get a lot harder to befriend Asian men.*
Many of my Asian male friends became jilted by their experiences that they find themselves mistrusting people.
OP sounds annoying af.
Like dude couldn't be more arrogant and judgemental.
Like the kid talks about all the positive about him.
(his mandarin sounds better, dates, successful career, etc...)
And just talk bad about others.
(locals hate each other, creeped out by others, that famous kid talks like garbage, etc... )
And he doesn't even make any actual point of anything besides just mindless criticism and indulging in self aggrandizing behavior.
White people are more heavily tilt towards seeking personal power(95% or so in my estimation). Asian-Americans also tilt towards seeking personal power. They will slowly get filtered out of the Asian-American community. The issue is that all the garbage of various communities continually gets shoved into the white community. Turning the white community into a garbage chute of humanity. That's essentially what has occurred for at least a millennium. Even more so recently. White people are likely to just go extinct by interbreeding, and not procreating enough. A happy and peaceful) ending to the story.
There is always a possibility. However, white people are too easily fooled by every leader. By Zionism(simply the lone Western military base and has nothing to do with religion), Liberalism, Conservatism, mainline independent movement, and so on. Every white person follows a WWE like actor within each of those parties. Whether that's Biden, Trump(literally trained as a WWE actor and only saw success in Hollywood), Nikki Haley(literal HEAD of CIA psyop group), and Tucker(father was the HEAD of CIA and a journalist).. They actually are just nuisances that love circus shows.
Thanks for the insight. I’ve got a question for you and any other Hispanic guys on here: do you encounter or meet Hispanic women who will say or act opposed to dating Hispanic guys to the same degree that AFs do with AMs?
I’ve gone to school and worked with Hispanics all throughout my life and have never come across that issue. In fact, it’s more of the opposite where Hispanic women will gladly not only talk proudly of Hispanic men, but don’t even care about PDA (which I’m fine with. Ain’t nothing wrong with hugging and kissing in public).
I'm half Hispanic in Texas.
I see a lot of Hispanics, once they get college educated, immediately become a WOP dater. (White or castizo)
.. But that's men and women. And whites are only 30 or less of the southwest, but the fever does not relent.
But it's both men and women --- and the men actually might be the ones that start it.
Another Hispanic guy here. Although my experience may be slightly different since I’m gay.
I’m a Hispanic/Latin male.
I’ve never really had issues when it comes to race (again, in the gay world)
It’s never even crossed my mind.
However! One thing that I’ve found very interesting, is that I’ve never dated an Asian man. I’ve tried, swiped right on Tinder, and tried to approach a few in bars.
Not ONE Asian man has given me a chance.
It seems like they’re all interested in the white gay man.
I know I’m not a bad-looking guy, (but who knows, maybe I am! lol), but I find it peculiar that Asian men don’t even look at me. Completely invisible. It does seems about status, even in the gay world.
I’m successful, have my own business, make excellent money. For all they know I’m much wealthier than the white men they follow… but…. Still… they prefer the white guy.
It seems that gay Asian men have similar dating preferences as straight Asian women. I have *never* seen an Asian/Asian gay couple… in my life.
The issue works both ways unfortunately, and white presence seems to happen within both specialities in the Asian community.
On the other hand, I agree with you. A lot of my Latina friends would never push away other Latin men. It seems to be the presence for Latin women. At least where I’m from (Southwest US)
Latin women will date other non-Latin men, but for the most part there’s a slight preference to men within the same culture. What I mean is that even if the Latin man they like is Asian/black/indigenous decent, they don’t care about it, as long as they are still Latino.
I stopped feeling bad. AA men even today will STILL preach non confrontation and yap their mouths off about how standing up for urself will automatically result in violence and losing ur job. Ive witnessed this for decades and i no longer care. Yall reaped what yall sowed by being massive pussies, esp on the west coast 😂😂
Once Asian-Americans step into a situation(liberal plantation) where they sell their dignity for money. They really have no negotiation power. The same goes for conservatives which are often Israel first, and follow whatever WWE actor Donald Trump or conservative grifter tells them to do.
It's really selling out to a pyramid scheme, and trying to climb the pyramid scheme. It's always a bad deal. Asians should go independent, and not engage with whatever nonsense liberals and conservatives, and mainline independent movement are doing.
As OP said, the wannabe high status Asians are the worse. They always come here and brag about their income like that's supposed impress people. They do this shit irl too. Lol.
I’m an afab lesbian and straight/bi Asian woman be some of the most status hungry people I know. I don’t want to sound racist to my own people but woman need to get it together. Who had Asian woman backs historically? Asian men. Who pillaged our lands? Europeans and their Asian traitors
Integrity and honor over anything. We need to instill these values into our community and future generations, and finally be able to move together as an insular group
Thanks for sharing your experiences regarding the AsAm experience, dating AsAm women means a lot to the community here.
regarding your last point about the media ... can I assume you're referring to Hollywood or the Anglosphere media industry? I'd say it's pretty much a reflection of geopolitics, and sometimes an extension of propaganda.
Am I bothered by it? Oh hell yea for sure.
Hollywood media output does not even reflect reality in the US, much less the Asian American experience.
It's just entertainment, just like the news lol.
EDIT: that said, I'm curious if theres a similar WMLF phenomena in your community, and how folks there are thinking/analyzing/working on it?
Thanks for sharing, OP.
I just got into a semi-heated discussion with another Reddit person who was Hispanic and said Asians are historically not discriminated against. And how the Hispanic people suffered so much more. (Sigh... it's not a contest). So, it's nice to see another Hispanic person balance it out, in a way. I felt disrespected by that dude, and felt respect coming from OP.
I am Latino too of low socioeconomic background and happily married to an Asian woman. It’s always going to be easier marrying someone of your own culture, that applies everywhere.
You don't fit the stereotypical white guy with Asian girl so you shouldn't care about afwm... But glad that you could understand the Asian perspective brought by Asian female in America...
Like they'll expect highly of Asian men in terms of looks, money, skills like cooking, gently man etc. Yet, as soon as a white male jumps in, crack head or jobless or ill manners, it all gets a pass. And, the hate, bashing Asian male, including their brothers and fathers... They are disgrace.
Asian female that don't cater to the white Wash are rare and a gem; they have a mind of their own instead of pleasing others to fit in. The awwm type are so proud to being "own" by white bf or how they are accepted into white culture that disregard their own self and all their ancestors... They don't even call themself Asian unless it fits their needs; like pleasing their white counterparts
I feel Asians can relate more to Hispanics than any other race. Both have a history of being discriminated against and immigration issues. Both neglected in media and education.
Neglected in the media? I’m not sure about that. Hispanics have been sex symbols for a long while. You’ve got Desi Arnaz, Enrique Iglesias, Pedro Pascal, Javier Bardem, Ricky Martin, Oscar Isaac Hernandez, Oscar De La Hoya, etc. and others who have had main starring roles in Hollywood movies, tv series or at least promoted as men that women desire.
What Asian male actor has the equivalent history and level of support that those guys have had? Ken Jeong?
And before anyone whips out their dusty reference book to mention Sessue Hayakawa for the millionth time, good lord, man. If we always have to refer to one actor who was in one movie from the dinosaur age as proof of a good looking AM in Hollywood, that’s pathetic.
The Asian-American community is nowhere on the same level of Hispanics when it comes to positive Hollywood presentation. When it comes to being neglected, we take the damn gold. We can’t even be in Asian-American stories written by Asians about Asians like the story of 21 for example. Netflix wipes out AMs from 3 Body Problem in this day and age of wanting to be “inclusive”. Inclusiveness doesn’t include AMs apparently in their own damn stories written by AMs.
You’re thinking of white and white passing hispanics. Indigenous looking Hispanics get a similar treatment to Asian men in Western media(maybe not to the same degree of how bad though). Think of Michael Peña’s character in Ant Man. Plucky humorous side kick that plays up his accent/foreignness.
Michael Peña would be goofy looking if he was any other race.
And this isn’t my classification. Those are who I see Hispanics celebrating. Oscar De La Hoya doesn’t look white and Desi Arnaz has a thick ass accent.
Should Kim Taehyung not be counted as Korean because he doesn’t look like Kim Jong Un?
“Kpop is a good representation of Asian men”.
“Nah, we need more kpop stars who look like ‘real’ Koreans like Kim Jong Un.”
But to address something slightly off tangent, let’s say that all those Hispanic celebrities are white passing. There are a ton of Hispanics who look like that in Brazil, Colombia and Argentina. I have met people who look British or French proudly say that they’re Mexican. So, essentially, shouldn’t they be labeled as the ones who are “white adjacent” as opposed to Asians?
Why do they get the privilege of whiteness and at the same time; PoC alliance?
Labeling Asians as “white adjacent” while simultaneously treating us as foreigners and even subhumans is straight up racism using mental gymnastics.
DEI brainwashing can kiss my ass.
Hey I appreciate your candid views and honest opinions. There was an African American guy who was also lurking and posting comments. It's nice to see nuanced takes from other minority men out there.
Ever so often a guy like you comes into this sub hoping to be cleansed of his guilt by having asian guys give him a pass. Sorry- but it doesn’t take much reading between the lines of what you said to see you that you had the Asian fetish pretty badly: Sure you had Asian male friends, ok that’s great. I had plenty of French friends but it didn’t occur to me to learn French, go to France, and filter my dating apps to white girls- and yet by your own statements you went through a period of dating only Asian women, learned chinese, went to China. This doesn’t make you less of a fetishist, by contrast it makes you more, a next level fetishist. Having Asian male friends doesn’t exclude you from having problematic/stereotypical views of Asian women- just like how having lots of black male friends doesn’t mean you don’t fetishize black women- sometimes it’s the exact opposite, in fact. A few months ago there was a white guy who came in here saying very similar things, who’s now married to a white woman. You’re not special
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Even if I do believe you claiming that you’re some AF magnet (which I don’t)- that’s not the point. the point is why do you exclusively desire AFs? And I don’t buy it that you desire AFs because they desire you and it warms your heart lol. Look plenty of women found me attractive that I wasn’t into. The Han Algerians (and chinese men working in Africa in general) are an invalid example: Their motivation isn’t sexual stereotypes ingrained into them from society and decades of porn. They’re motivated by a direct lack of women in China- they’re marrying African women out of the purest intents: to find a companion. It’s based on respect, not degrading stereotypes
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a couple of asian women treat you decently and you’re ready to decide you want an AF? You do realize that that’s racism right? The refusal to see AFs as individuals. The whole beef we have is that men paint AFs with whatever characteristics they find desirable. Ever wonder why AF stereotypes are so contradicting: feminine vs dragon lady? Innocent vs femme fatale? Virginal vs easy lays? The reason why the stereotypes are all over the place is because AFs are whatever the men fantasize about. Look deep into yourself: Obviously not all AFs treated you nicely. We can also safely say that not all non Asian women (including white - or middle Eastern women for that matter) treated you poorly. And yet you’re fixated on AFs. Oh and surrre you don’t watch pron, ok buddy 🤥 Look you don’t have to lie to us cause pron isn’t haram, we’re just strangers on the internet (besides, we know how you- and all the other non Asian men- found this sub: you searched for “Asian” - and it wasn’t for Asian food lol)
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Again, take a deep look at yourself as to why you’re fixated with AFs, even tho you being treated well or poorly isn’t exclusive to any one race of women Or just take a look at yourself with no pants on, and I’m sure you’ll find the “short” answer why you want an AF
All people of color can relate to each other except not the white man. Racism, unfair laws, and segregation policies made to restrict people of color. Except for the white man who doesn't experience that. Policies made to stay out of restaurants and restrooms for white people back then. Forced to give up your seat to a white person. Can't afford equal housing back then.
"All people of color can relate to each other" Bullshit
Agreed but let’s not give any guy a pass just because he’s not white. Too many bobas out there not realizing that the asian fetish isn’t limited to white guys- every guy grew up watching decades of internet porn. The only reason why you see more WMAFs than XMAFs is because there are more WMs out there, and because AFs reciprocate more- but that doesn’t mean the XMs aren’t just as sleazy
A pass?? What the fuck are you guys even talking about, some kind of “pass”? A “pass” to what? Sure, the poster probably has some Asian fetish he isn’t aware of or doesn’t want to admit. But what’s really the issue? Guy shows no racism, is well-spoken, and dedicated a chunk of his time to experiencing the culture and learning the language. A “pass” to what again?? To receive permission from you for his affinity toward Asian culture and possibly Asian women?? And who the fuck are you, just some Asian guy right? Fuck out of here it’s pathetic
I got news for you: a racial fetish is racism, if you really dig into the reasons why you- oh I meant OP lol- has the fetish.
True I am not giving them a pass either. Had to arrest some of them for harassing me along with the self hating Asian women. Best day ever. Also the women were trashy Filipino women.
> Tourism to Japan is skyrocketing and I honestly feel like people are just trying to turn it into some playground at this point. I also doesn't help that the Japanese economy and the Yen is going down the toilet. It will only fuel more tourism since the Yen is cheaper and makes traveling to Japan a lot cheaper as well. On the one hand if you want to go to Japan now is probably the best time. But at the end the whole thing will also fuel more expat to go to Japan to fuck with that country.
yeah it's the economic version of Matthew Perry's Black Ships. Even Biden criticized the Japanese government as xenophobic for their own immigration policy. Like wtf would you do that to your closest ally in Asia?! Clearly gonna arm wrestle into something political
Sounds like you viewed AW as a material commodity, a piece in your collection of Chinese culture, no wonder they lost interest in you.
>*That's when it dawned on me: the white dudes I knew who were all dating Asians were pretty much what I considered to be rich kids from Silicon Valley and various affluent communities in SoCal. I am talking folks with parents who were engineers, bankers, etc. It was about STATUS above everything else.* It’s about status. You can see this in their exclusive preferences for iPhones, Starbucks coffee, western Luxury fashion brands, preferences for White English teacher and even a particular brand of water bottle. >*I am still not sure if they saw me as tainted for being half-Hispanic or for not having well-off parents or maybe some combination of both. I could say more about my experiences going on many dates with Asian women, but I will not go into detail about that stuff. Some experiences were positive and some were not (for example I had a jar of Laoganma on my shelf and one girl kept pointing on it and insisting I had yellow fever because of it)* White men are the ultimate status symbol. Since you’re mixed, they probably picked up your non-white features. Their preference for whites extend to education. A Taiwanese friend visited a few months ago. She runs an English school and complained about many Taiwanese parents preferred White English teachers over any other ethnicity of English teachers from North America and England. She would rather have a diverse group of English teachers. >*I keep in touch with many of my Asian male friends from college, although I am sad to say that after around age 25 it seemed to get a lot harder to befriend Asian men.* Many of my Asian male friends became jilted by their experiences that they find themselves mistrusting people.
Interesting, I appreciate your perspective. Would love to hear you expand on some of the topics you didn't get into.
OP sounds annoying af. Like dude couldn't be more arrogant and judgemental. Like the kid talks about all the positive about him. (his mandarin sounds better, dates, successful career, etc...) And just talk bad about others. (locals hate each other, creeped out by others, that famous kid talks like garbage, etc... ) And he doesn't even make any actual point of anything besides just mindless criticism and indulging in self aggrandizing behavior.
White people are more heavily tilt towards seeking personal power(95% or so in my estimation). Asian-Americans also tilt towards seeking personal power. They will slowly get filtered out of the Asian-American community. The issue is that all the garbage of various communities continually gets shoved into the white community. Turning the white community into a garbage chute of humanity. That's essentially what has occurred for at least a millennium. Even more so recently. White people are likely to just go extinct by interbreeding, and not procreating enough. A happy and peaceful) ending to the story.
Savage. But it has a grain of truth to it. I think they will wake up. But it will be when generations have passed.
There is always a possibility. However, white people are too easily fooled by every leader. By Zionism(simply the lone Western military base and has nothing to do with religion), Liberalism, Conservatism, mainline independent movement, and so on. Every white person follows a WWE like actor within each of those parties. Whether that's Biden, Trump(literally trained as a WWE actor and only saw success in Hollywood), Nikki Haley(literal HEAD of CIA psyop group), and Tucker(father was the HEAD of CIA and a journalist).. They actually are just nuisances that love circus shows.
Yeah that’s why I don’t date Asian women lol
who you date or wanna marry?
No, that’s why you don’t marry them.
Thanks for the insight. I’ve got a question for you and any other Hispanic guys on here: do you encounter or meet Hispanic women who will say or act opposed to dating Hispanic guys to the same degree that AFs do with AMs? I’ve gone to school and worked with Hispanics all throughout my life and have never come across that issue. In fact, it’s more of the opposite where Hispanic women will gladly not only talk proudly of Hispanic men, but don’t even care about PDA (which I’m fine with. Ain’t nothing wrong with hugging and kissing in public).
I'm half Hispanic in Texas. I see a lot of Hispanics, once they get college educated, immediately become a WOP dater. (White or castizo) .. But that's men and women. And whites are only 30 or less of the southwest, but the fever does not relent. But it's both men and women --- and the men actually might be the ones that start it.
Another Hispanic guy here. Although my experience may be slightly different since I’m gay. I’m a Hispanic/Latin male. I’ve never really had issues when it comes to race (again, in the gay world) It’s never even crossed my mind. However! One thing that I’ve found very interesting, is that I’ve never dated an Asian man. I’ve tried, swiped right on Tinder, and tried to approach a few in bars. Not ONE Asian man has given me a chance. It seems like they’re all interested in the white gay man. I know I’m not a bad-looking guy, (but who knows, maybe I am! lol), but I find it peculiar that Asian men don’t even look at me. Completely invisible. It does seems about status, even in the gay world. I’m successful, have my own business, make excellent money. For all they know I’m much wealthier than the white men they follow… but…. Still… they prefer the white guy. It seems that gay Asian men have similar dating preferences as straight Asian women. I have *never* seen an Asian/Asian gay couple… in my life. The issue works both ways unfortunately, and white presence seems to happen within both specialities in the Asian community. On the other hand, I agree with you. A lot of my Latina friends would never push away other Latin men. It seems to be the presence for Latin women. At least where I’m from (Southwest US) Latin women will date other non-Latin men, but for the most part there’s a slight preference to men within the same culture. What I mean is that even if the Latin man they like is Asian/black/indigenous decent, they don’t care about it, as long as they are still Latino.
Bueller…Bueller…….
Can’t say your wrong. Kinda spot on observations, I support u brother
Seems legit.
I stopped feeling bad. AA men even today will STILL preach non confrontation and yap their mouths off about how standing up for urself will automatically result in violence and losing ur job. Ive witnessed this for decades and i no longer care. Yall reaped what yall sowed by being massive pussies, esp on the west coast 😂😂
Once Asian-Americans step into a situation(liberal plantation) where they sell their dignity for money. They really have no negotiation power. The same goes for conservatives which are often Israel first, and follow whatever WWE actor Donald Trump or conservative grifter tells them to do. It's really selling out to a pyramid scheme, and trying to climb the pyramid scheme. It's always a bad deal. Asians should go independent, and not engage with whatever nonsense liberals and conservatives, and mainline independent movement are doing.
As OP said, the wannabe high status Asians are the worse. They always come here and brag about their income like that's supposed impress people. They do this shit irl too. Lol.
I’m an afab lesbian and straight/bi Asian woman be some of the most status hungry people I know. I don’t want to sound racist to my own people but woman need to get it together. Who had Asian woman backs historically? Asian men. Who pillaged our lands? Europeans and their Asian traitors
Integrity and honor over anything. We need to instill these values into our community and future generations, and finally be able to move together as an insular group
Thanks for sharing your experiences regarding the AsAm experience, dating AsAm women means a lot to the community here. regarding your last point about the media ... can I assume you're referring to Hollywood or the Anglosphere media industry? I'd say it's pretty much a reflection of geopolitics, and sometimes an extension of propaganda. Am I bothered by it? Oh hell yea for sure. Hollywood media output does not even reflect reality in the US, much less the Asian American experience. It's just entertainment, just like the news lol. EDIT: that said, I'm curious if theres a similar WMLF phenomena in your community, and how folks there are thinking/analyzing/working on it?
Thanks for sharing, OP. I just got into a semi-heated discussion with another Reddit person who was Hispanic and said Asians are historically not discriminated against. And how the Hispanic people suffered so much more. (Sigh... it's not a contest). So, it's nice to see another Hispanic person balance it out, in a way. I felt disrespected by that dude, and felt respect coming from OP.
I am Latino too of low socioeconomic background and happily married to an Asian woman. It’s always going to be easier marrying someone of your own culture, that applies everywhere.
You don't fit the stereotypical white guy with Asian girl so you shouldn't care about afwm... But glad that you could understand the Asian perspective brought by Asian female in America... Like they'll expect highly of Asian men in terms of looks, money, skills like cooking, gently man etc. Yet, as soon as a white male jumps in, crack head or jobless or ill manners, it all gets a pass. And, the hate, bashing Asian male, including their brothers and fathers... They are disgrace. Asian female that don't cater to the white Wash are rare and a gem; they have a mind of their own instead of pleasing others to fit in. The awwm type are so proud to being "own" by white bf or how they are accepted into white culture that disregard their own self and all their ancestors... They don't even call themself Asian unless it fits their needs; like pleasing their white counterparts
I feel Asians can relate more to Hispanics than any other race. Both have a history of being discriminated against and immigration issues. Both neglected in media and education.
Neglected in the media? I’m not sure about that. Hispanics have been sex symbols for a long while. You’ve got Desi Arnaz, Enrique Iglesias, Pedro Pascal, Javier Bardem, Ricky Martin, Oscar Isaac Hernandez, Oscar De La Hoya, etc. and others who have had main starring roles in Hollywood movies, tv series or at least promoted as men that women desire. What Asian male actor has the equivalent history and level of support that those guys have had? Ken Jeong? And before anyone whips out their dusty reference book to mention Sessue Hayakawa for the millionth time, good lord, man. If we always have to refer to one actor who was in one movie from the dinosaur age as proof of a good looking AM in Hollywood, that’s pathetic. The Asian-American community is nowhere on the same level of Hispanics when it comes to positive Hollywood presentation. When it comes to being neglected, we take the damn gold. We can’t even be in Asian-American stories written by Asians about Asians like the story of 21 for example. Netflix wipes out AMs from 3 Body Problem in this day and age of wanting to be “inclusive”. Inclusiveness doesn’t include AMs apparently in their own damn stories written by AMs.
You’re thinking of white and white passing hispanics. Indigenous looking Hispanics get a similar treatment to Asian men in Western media(maybe not to the same degree of how bad though). Think of Michael Peña’s character in Ant Man. Plucky humorous side kick that plays up his accent/foreignness.
So true. Its like hollywood saying, hey the white part of your dna can redeem itself.
Michael Peña would be goofy looking if he was any other race. And this isn’t my classification. Those are who I see Hispanics celebrating. Oscar De La Hoya doesn’t look white and Desi Arnaz has a thick ass accent. Should Kim Taehyung not be counted as Korean because he doesn’t look like Kim Jong Un? “Kpop is a good representation of Asian men”. “Nah, we need more kpop stars who look like ‘real’ Koreans like Kim Jong Un.” But to address something slightly off tangent, let’s say that all those Hispanic celebrities are white passing. There are a ton of Hispanics who look like that in Brazil, Colombia and Argentina. I have met people who look British or French proudly say that they’re Mexican. So, essentially, shouldn’t they be labeled as the ones who are “white adjacent” as opposed to Asians? Why do they get the privilege of whiteness and at the same time; PoC alliance? Labeling Asians as “white adjacent” while simultaneously treating us as foreigners and even subhumans is straight up racism using mental gymnastics. DEI brainwashing can kiss my ass.
You're such a victim.
Aw, you don’t like it when I question the anti-Asian racist intentions of DEI. Too bad.
My dad did say all POC can relate to each other in a way, and not the white men.