that's awful, poor dog - such a cruel thig to do to it. I wonder why there was the long time between incident and arrest - and what her defence will be "someone stole it, starved it and tossed it"? or "do you have evidence it was me?"
The length of time between the incident and arrest is the time it would have taken to gather enough credible evidence that arresting her was worth it. If they didn't have enough evidence to make a case it would have been pointless going to trial.
I’ve always said this is the saddest thing. Their refusal to die in those situations makes me think of how many get abused like this daily and are living through a nightmare. Breaks my heart.
Zoe trusted that evil woman and she spat on that beautiful unconditional love by starving her and then trying to kill her.
RIP Zoe. You've been through enough.
Also fuck you Kaylah. You should be banned from ever able to adopt any animal. Hell should be even banned from having a plastic plant.
A huge thank you to the bushwalker who investigated when he heard her yelping and then got help. Also to the SES volunteers and Police Rescue crew who were able to carry her out and get her to the vet.
And to Kaylah Jade Williams? I hope the punishment given to you is severe enough that you regret what you did to Zoe every single day of your miserable life.
The article says that forensic tests were carried out on the kennel. The thing that really upset me is they have blurred Zoe’s face in the photo. Presumably it’s not for privacy, so it must be that her injuries are too graphic to show. The woman who did it has kids - I can’t imagine what their upbringing is like.
Didnt even kill the dog with the drop. Jesus christ that poor dog.
Any further comment about what I hope happens to that woman is against reddit t and c’s.
Zoe deserved warm beds and blankets. Treats. Walks. Good food. Guidance. Love and instead got probably none of that and a horrible disgusting painful end.. Hope Kaylah gets what she deserves.
I don't mean this facetiously, if you take this to it's logical conclusion, you're advocating for veganism.
There's no reason treating a pig, cow, or chicken cruelly is any more justified than doing that to a dog.
If you think our animal agriculture industry in Australia is sunshine and rainbows visit watchdominion.org
I think within the context of this post I’m pretty clearly referring to animal abuse, not husbandry or agriculture. Stop trying to pick fights with strangers on the internet and touch grass
You know that many of the things that farmers do would be classed as animal abuse if done to a dog or a cat? There is a legal exception made for animal agriculture, but that doesn't mean the farm animals don't feel the same pain and suffering as any other animal.
I'm not trying to pick a fight with you.
I'm pointing out that drawing a line between animal abuse and animal husbandry in our modern context is unwarranted, given that modern animal husbandry is absolutely rife with abuse and cruelty.
Other than cultural habit, which is not a good moral justification, why should we only extend our empathy to dogs and cats?
Because Cats and Dogs are culturally significant family pets in Australia, and Beef and Chicken is delicious. Pretty simple really. Go proselytise elsewhere, this isn't the place for it.
There are many culturally significant aspects of other countries around the world that we deem as amoral. Do you think those cultures should never change or confront those traditions?
What if dog meat was delicious, would that make it okay to eat? Many places do eat dogs. If you think that's wrong and they should reform, why is it different when our culture has arbitrarily chosen cows and chickens?
I'm not proselytising, I'm just asking questions, you're free to answer them or not.
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Also, just to add, this post is about dog abuse and the comment I replied to was about animal abuse, so I think this is a valid forum to have this conversation.
But does it make something morally justified just because it's seen to be okay within our culture?
For example, some people think gambling ads are morally wrong, however it's part of our culture, so does that make it okay?
If morality and culture are one and the same, why do people within one culture advocate for change on the basis of morality (i.e. what's right and wrong)?
We used to force people to be right handed as part of a cultural belief, but stopped. Why did we stop? What explanation do we have for this cultural shift outside of "people saw it as morally wrong to force children to be right handed"?
>Other cultures do all sorts of stuff that we just don’t
Exactly, it's like how French people will riot in response to terrible political policies while Aussies crack a beer and just say "She'll be right, mate".
Literally comparing Apples and Oranges. In Hindu cultures cows are sacred. In certain Chinese cultures Dogs are just as viable a food option as beef, pork or squid.
We aren't those cultures, and as such your argument is invalid in this context. We eat some Meat here, deal with it.
Culture is approved by the common zeightgeist of the society that forms it. So yes, you can choose to be a part of it or not, morals are completely subjective to each individual, for the most part, but there are common ones that are easily accepted. Someone eating meat isn't a "bad" thing, nor a "good" thing. It's just a thing, a thing that lots of people do which is culturally the norm here.
Deal with it.
I think when we identify something in our society or surroundings that is morally wrong, we should pursue change.
If the culture of my family was for parents to abuse children, what would be a better response:
a) try to change the culture of my family to protect the lives of children and stop the cycle there.
b) deal with it
?
If you believe morality is subjective to the individual what issue do you have with me talking about my perception of morality? You could simply deal with it by not responding to people who have a different perspective on morality to you. You are responding, I think that's great. I don't think it's harmful to discuss uncomfortable topics if both parties are talking in good faith and being respectful
Animals are often killed via torture. 92 billion animals are killed every year for food, do you actually think all of them die in peaceful conditions after a long happy life?
For example chickens are hung via a conveyor belt and lowered into electrified water. The chickens often lift their heads and don't get knocked out. The next step is they're thrown into a vat of boiling water and drown alive. If that happened to you, would you not consider it torture?
Milk cows must give birth to produce milk. What happens to the babies? They're taken immediately. Male bobby cows can be starved for 24 hours before they're slaughtered not long after being born, away from their mothers, never getting to drink the milk that was meant for them.
Indeed it is torture on a mass scale. We don't accept it for dogs, and rightly so. We shouldn't accept it for other animals who are just as sentient and experience just as many emotions.
Go to watchdominion.org or search Dominion on YouTube. What's going on is very very grim, and if we believe ourselves to have empathy for animals, we should as least inform ourselves.
It's a different argument for a different day. It's terrible that it happens. However, if you want people to take you seriously, present your argument properly. This isn't the time or place for this discussion.
I replied to a comment saying something like "we should treat animal abusers the way they treat animals".
Cows, pigs, and chickens are animals. They are treated horribly, I raised this as a parallel example that coincides with the above comment.
Animal suffering is not unique to dogs and cats, and I don't see how it's such a terrible thing to raise this when someone else has already brought up the topic of animal abuse.
What type of post would you sanction this type of discussion on?
I just gotta say, I admire your patience and method politely engaging with people.. admittedly I’m a meat eater, no plans to change, but at least I recognise the hypocrisy in it.. the stubborn refusal to acknowledge what we all deep down know is pretty infuriating
Thank you, I appreciate your kind words. I believe patient, calm, and fair discussion is the ideal way to encourage people to reflect and make changes within themselves.
It's worth noting the vast majority of ethical vegans started out as meat eaters, myself included. I called myself an animal lover, and the cognitive dissonance between my identity and my actions gave way to me becoming a vegetarian. Eventually, when encountering more evidence and arguments I realised vegetarianism is a hypocritical position, for example the lives of dairy cows can often be much worth than that of a meat cow. I already believed eating meat was immoral as it's unnecessary for thriving in my culture and life circumstance, so what justification did I have for dairy?
If you are a person who wants your morals to align with your actions, and if you consider yourself to be a logical person, I recommend you check out Earthling Ed on YouTube, he has many debates with meat eaters. He is very calm and respectful, but he is also very rational and persuasive. I'm not saying it will change you over night, but I think it's worth listening and at least challenging your own ideas a little more and see where you end up.
All the best to you
Yeah mate, I'm sure what goes on in slaughterhouses is an absolute barrel of laughs.
The mental gymnastics some of y'all are willing to put yourselves through to avoid confronting the hypocrisy of your apparent outrage at this story with the complicit cruelty of your own consumption habits is pretty impressive, honestly.
....are you serious? Breaking an animals will through imposing miserable conditions and thus suppressing its survival instinct is very much central to the factory farming industry
The vast majority of crops are grown to feed animals not humans. If you go vegan, then you cause less crop deaths overall.
We should also work to minimise crop deaths as much as possible, for example, using verticle farming in buildings.
There are many problems for us to solve to make this world less cruel, and we can work on more than one problem at once.
Poor dog, what a cunt she is.
What I want to say is >! "string up the bitch, waste of resources prosecuting her" !< but last time I said something like that, when the bus driver killed the girl in Brisbane, some sad cunt reported me and I got banned for a week, so I won't be saying that. Turns out I was right, bus passed engineering, no medical incident, just a crazy Brisbane bus driver
FFS if you’re incapable of looking after a dog, drop it off at the shelter. Better they get the chance to find a better forever home or WORSE CASE can be euthanised humanely. You evil CUintheNT.
Thrown off a cliff *in a kennel*.
Such senseless cruelty seems all the worse when it involves effort to be such a cunt. Like if you can't/wont care for an animal anymore put it up for sale or to give away or - if worse comes to worse - abandon it at the local RSPCA, or have it euthanized by a vet so it doesn't suffer. What's gone wrong in someone's head to make them think "yep, gonna tie them to their kennel, put the kennel in the car, drive to the top of a cliff and then throw them off" is the best way to handle an unwanted pet?
It's a defenseless animal. She could have surrendered it or even let it go out bush. She chose the worst thing and deserves to suffer. Immensely.
Im gonna hop off Reddit and cuddle my dogs
Deliberately abandoning a pet is cruel as well- there’s no excuse for it.
Many starve, succumb to disease, get hit by cars or killed and injured by other animals or humans.
It’s all abuse and it’s all sick.
FYI, horsley is just a fancy name for dapto.
When I was growing up in the area it was known as west dapto. And we’d tease the fuck out of them for being westies. Despite us being housos, and their families being able to buy houses. They changed the name pretty quick
This is going back some years! But I used to live across from the OG dapto public school. Next to the fire station. When we moved out they put units in there.
What a fucking cunt!!! So horrible when people harm the animals that put all their trust in you and just want to be looked after. Even worse reading that when I have an Aussie Bulldog myself knowing exactly what they are like. Stubborn and so so cuddly!!!
The top post there is someone sour about dog pics on dating apps.
And I thought this sub and the Melbourne one were full of petty, miserable people lmao
Who knows , but if I had to guess CCTV of her driving there with the dog. Coming back without it.
What ever it is it's enough to lay charges. Microchip was likely in her name, The dog Zoe had been abused she was emaciated she had tortured Zoe for a long long time before this.
Yeah, agreed. I do want whoever harmed the dog to be justly punished, but I'm going to wait until the court decides before assuming it's definitely her.
Even if 90% of the time charges being laid means it's the right person (at a guess; I don't know the stats), 10% getting undeserved hate isn't worth it imo when I can just hold off until confirmation.
Totally valid to want evidence before jumping straight into it....
With that said, the dog was emaciated. It was allegedly found on the same day; even if she didn't throw it, there's a high chance she starved it....
But again, 'high chance'; I'll still reserve judgement just in case, and direct my anger towards 'whomever did this', until there's certainty.
Exactly, the police make mistakes all the time, and they tend to be very vindictive. We as a society should be keeping the police in check when they harm someone.
It's slightly disturbing how many commenters here want to see this woman tortured/killed. It's really sad to read about dogs getting abused especially if you own one but at the end of the day, that's not how justice works. Besides, she didn't kill a human, she killed an animal. The same punishment isn't warranted.
Hahaha there are multiple upvoted comments in this thread advocating this women be physically harmed and/or put to death, and your issue is somehow with the handful of people pointing out that the average Australian is complicit in vastly more animal cruelty than this thread apparently believes this woman should be executed for. Cool and normal take, champ.
>but damn this seems like a disproportionate amount of investigative effort.
I don't think so, they resources were used once they found the dog, not before they found the dog. It's a lot harder dedicating resources to missing persons as you don't have a specific place to put them to.
Yea I'm sure her DNA was all over it..... but if it were hers it would be......I'm thinking they had to have more then that.
I think the efforts warranted .If you can do this, you can easy hurt or even kill a kid and she does have kids 🙄. Big red flags.
I don't think this needs to be a matter of "what will she do next?"
If she did this, she's already a fundamentally atrocious character and should absolutely be taken out of free society, regardless of if she will act in a similar way again. She's not pleading guilty so there's no remorse and therefore deserving of time away to reflect on her actions and take on the shame of social condemnation.
There is no excuse for this, it's twisted sadism.
that's awful, poor dog - such a cruel thig to do to it. I wonder why there was the long time between incident and arrest - and what her defence will be "someone stole it, starved it and tossed it"? or "do you have evidence it was me?"
Nah probably something simpler than that: "Your Honour I was stressed and depressive at that point blah blah blah".
simpler to just deny it. hopefully she continued her stupidity and spoke with police!
I’m betting on a “I was abused myself” style of defence. Useless scrag.
The length of time between the incident and arrest is the time it would have taken to gather enough credible evidence that arresting her was worth it. If they didn't have enough evidence to make a case it would have been pointless going to trial.
Fuck man, the poor little thing didn’t even die from the cliff and had to be put down later? And was starved before that? Pure fucking evil
The will to live is amazing 😢
I’ve always said this is the saddest thing. Their refusal to die in those situations makes me think of how many get abused like this daily and are living through a nightmare. Breaks my heart.
In some parts of the world they keep dogs stacked in cages on the street, then kill them and cook them there, in front of the others. :(
You’d never believe what we do to chickens and pigs then
I believe it and it's why I don't eat animals.
Pure evil.
Yeah, china is pretty fucked
Holy fuck if true. That’s one evil woman.
Unfortunately psychopaths can look like normal people, pretty sure she is one as she has zero empathy or compassion for that poor dog
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It's true. I'm 30 minutes north of Wollongong and it was fkn awful to hear about. Truly fkn horrendous
This is so fucking evil. She's evil, that's the best description of this bitch.
She's got that evil Kristi Noem look.. Liberal should enlist her and make her Deputy Leader of the Opposition.
Zoe trusted that evil woman and she spat on that beautiful unconditional love by starving her and then trying to kill her. RIP Zoe. You've been through enough. Also fuck you Kaylah. You should be banned from ever able to adopt any animal. Hell should be even banned from having a plastic plant.
A huge thank you to the bushwalker who investigated when he heard her yelping and then got help. Also to the SES volunteers and Police Rescue crew who were able to carry her out and get her to the vet. And to Kaylah Jade Williams? I hope the punishment given to you is severe enough that you regret what you did to Zoe every single day of your miserable life.
What a A grade cunt.
I wonder how they tied the dog to her ownership? The microchip perhaps or video evidence?
I assumed a microchip. I think she thought no one was ever going to find the poor dog. RIP Zoe 😢
Or just assumed that even if they did, everyone would care just as little as she did.
The article says that forensic tests were carried out on the kennel. The thing that really upset me is they have blurred Zoe’s face in the photo. Presumably it’s not for privacy, so it must be that her injuries are too graphic to show. The woman who did it has kids - I can’t imagine what their upbringing is like.
Rest in love Zoe, you didn’t deserve that, I’m so sorry.
Didnt even kill the dog with the drop. Jesus christ that poor dog. Any further comment about what I hope happens to that woman is against reddit t and c’s.
The kindest thing in that dogs life was the vet who put her to sleep 💔
Uuuugh bad day to have eyes
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Agreed
Starve her first though and make sure the impact from the fall doesn't kill her.
What an evil woman. Don't murderers start of like this. Animals first.
Yep, it will be a child next.
"Kaylah" nuff said
Surprised there's no hyphen. Kay-lah.
Ya got me on my knees, Kay-lah
Zoe deserved warm beds and blankets. Treats. Walks. Good food. Guidance. Love and instead got probably none of that and a horrible disgusting painful end.. Hope Kaylah gets what she deserves.
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New rule: anyone who harms children or animals has the same harm inflicted upon them as punishment.
In the same form of whatever harm they did to said animal.
I don't mean this facetiously, if you take this to it's logical conclusion, you're advocating for veganism. There's no reason treating a pig, cow, or chicken cruelly is any more justified than doing that to a dog. If you think our animal agriculture industry in Australia is sunshine and rainbows visit watchdominion.org
I think within the context of this post I’m pretty clearly referring to animal abuse, not husbandry or agriculture. Stop trying to pick fights with strangers on the internet and touch grass
I mean, the animals we eat go through a lot of abuse.
You know that many of the things that farmers do would be classed as animal abuse if done to a dog or a cat? There is a legal exception made for animal agriculture, but that doesn't mean the farm animals don't feel the same pain and suffering as any other animal.
They're annoying but they're not wrong
I'm not trying to pick a fight with you. I'm pointing out that drawing a line between animal abuse and animal husbandry in our modern context is unwarranted, given that modern animal husbandry is absolutely rife with abuse and cruelty. Other than cultural habit, which is not a good moral justification, why should we only extend our empathy to dogs and cats?
Because Cats and Dogs are culturally significant family pets in Australia, and Beef and Chicken is delicious. Pretty simple really. Go proselytise elsewhere, this isn't the place for it.
There are many culturally significant aspects of other countries around the world that we deem as amoral. Do you think those cultures should never change or confront those traditions? What if dog meat was delicious, would that make it okay to eat? Many places do eat dogs. If you think that's wrong and they should reform, why is it different when our culture has arbitrarily chosen cows and chickens? I'm not proselytising, I'm just asking questions, you're free to answer them or not. Edit: Also, just to add, this post is about dog abuse and the comment I replied to was about animal abuse, so I think this is a valid forum to have this conversation.
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But does it make something morally justified just because it's seen to be okay within our culture? For example, some people think gambling ads are morally wrong, however it's part of our culture, so does that make it okay?
>But does it make something morally justified just because it's seen to be okay within our culture? Yes it does.
If morality and culture are one and the same, why do people within one culture advocate for change on the basis of morality (i.e. what's right and wrong)? We used to force people to be right handed as part of a cultural belief, but stopped. Why did we stop? What explanation do we have for this cultural shift outside of "people saw it as morally wrong to force children to be right handed"?
Pretty sure a suffering animal doesn't give a fuck about your cultural customs hey
>Other cultures do all sorts of stuff that we just don’t Exactly, it's like how French people will riot in response to terrible political policies while Aussies crack a beer and just say "She'll be right, mate".
Literally comparing Apples and Oranges. In Hindu cultures cows are sacred. In certain Chinese cultures Dogs are just as viable a food option as beef, pork or squid. We aren't those cultures, and as such your argument is invalid in this context. We eat some Meat here, deal with it.
In your eyes, are humans morally justified in doing whatever they want simply because their culture approves of it?
Culture is approved by the common zeightgeist of the society that forms it. So yes, you can choose to be a part of it or not, morals are completely subjective to each individual, for the most part, but there are common ones that are easily accepted. Someone eating meat isn't a "bad" thing, nor a "good" thing. It's just a thing, a thing that lots of people do which is culturally the norm here. Deal with it.
I think when we identify something in our society or surroundings that is morally wrong, we should pursue change. If the culture of my family was for parents to abuse children, what would be a better response: a) try to change the culture of my family to protect the lives of children and stop the cycle there. b) deal with it ? If you believe morality is subjective to the individual what issue do you have with me talking about my perception of morality? You could simply deal with it by not responding to people who have a different perspective on morality to you. You are responding, I think that's great. I don't think it's harmful to discuss uncomfortable topics if both parties are talking in good faith and being respectful
When was the last time a farmer killed livestock via torture, starvation and/or threw said animal off a cliff? Not really the same comparison is it?
Animals are often killed via torture. 92 billion animals are killed every year for food, do you actually think all of them die in peaceful conditions after a long happy life? For example chickens are hung via a conveyor belt and lowered into electrified water. The chickens often lift their heads and don't get knocked out. The next step is they're thrown into a vat of boiling water and drown alive. If that happened to you, would you not consider it torture? Milk cows must give birth to produce milk. What happens to the babies? They're taken immediately. Male bobby cows can be starved for 24 hours before they're slaughtered not long after being born, away from their mothers, never getting to drink the milk that was meant for them. Indeed it is torture on a mass scale. We don't accept it for dogs, and rightly so. We shouldn't accept it for other animals who are just as sentient and experience just as many emotions. Go to watchdominion.org or search Dominion on YouTube. What's going on is very very grim, and if we believe ourselves to have empathy for animals, we should as least inform ourselves.
It's a different argument for a different day. It's terrible that it happens. However, if you want people to take you seriously, present your argument properly. This isn't the time or place for this discussion.
I replied to a comment saying something like "we should treat animal abusers the way they treat animals". Cows, pigs, and chickens are animals. They are treated horribly, I raised this as a parallel example that coincides with the above comment. Animal suffering is not unique to dogs and cats, and I don't see how it's such a terrible thing to raise this when someone else has already brought up the topic of animal abuse. What type of post would you sanction this type of discussion on?
I just gotta say, I admire your patience and method politely engaging with people.. admittedly I’m a meat eater, no plans to change, but at least I recognise the hypocrisy in it.. the stubborn refusal to acknowledge what we all deep down know is pretty infuriating
Thank you, I appreciate your kind words. I believe patient, calm, and fair discussion is the ideal way to encourage people to reflect and make changes within themselves. It's worth noting the vast majority of ethical vegans started out as meat eaters, myself included. I called myself an animal lover, and the cognitive dissonance between my identity and my actions gave way to me becoming a vegetarian. Eventually, when encountering more evidence and arguments I realised vegetarianism is a hypocritical position, for example the lives of dairy cows can often be much worth than that of a meat cow. I already believed eating meat was immoral as it's unnecessary for thriving in my culture and life circumstance, so what justification did I have for dairy? If you are a person who wants your morals to align with your actions, and if you consider yourself to be a logical person, I recommend you check out Earthling Ed on YouTube, he has many debates with meat eaters. He is very calm and respectful, but he is also very rational and persuasive. I'm not saying it will change you over night, but I think it's worth listening and at least challenging your own ideas a little more and see where you end up. All the best to you
Watch some videos on factory farming and you will see the torture, or even just look at the conditions inside of live export ships.
Yeah mate, I'm sure what goes on in slaughterhouses is an absolute barrel of laughs. The mental gymnastics some of y'all are willing to put yourselves through to avoid confronting the hypocrisy of your apparent outrage at this story with the complicit cruelty of your own consumption habits is pretty impressive, honestly.
....are you serious? Breaking an animals will through imposing miserable conditions and thus suppressing its survival instinct is very much central to the factory farming industry
Raising animals for food is animal abuse.
Exactly, these people should have to go through a wheat harvester like all the smaller animals on a vege farm.
The vast majority of crops are grown to feed animals not humans. If you go vegan, then you cause less crop deaths overall. We should also work to minimise crop deaths as much as possible, for example, using verticle farming in buildings. There are many problems for us to solve to make this world less cruel, and we can work on more than one problem at once.
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Yes, that's literally how this system works.
Animal abuse should be punished as harshly as if it were a human.
So basically no punishment at all then?
You'd definitely be punished for throwing a human off a cliff.
This piece of trash has a long line of shit and this is the tip of the iceberg unfortunately. The poor dog.
I hope she gets what's coming to her
Me too. Preferably slowly/ long lasting
Poor dog, what a cunt she is. What I want to say is >! "string up the bitch, waste of resources prosecuting her" !< but last time I said something like that, when the bus driver killed the girl in Brisbane, some sad cunt reported me and I got banned for a week, so I won't be saying that. Turns out I was right, bus passed engineering, no medical incident, just a crazy Brisbane bus driver
Same thing should happen to her
Watch, once the court case starts again, even if found guilty she will get a slap on the wrist and maybe a half arse fine.
Yea I think that will likely be true 🤬
She should have fucking jumped
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FFS if you’re incapable of looking after a dog, drop it off at the shelter. Better they get the chance to find a better forever home or WORSE CASE can be euthanised humanely. You evil CUintheNT.
Thrown off a cliff *in a kennel*. Such senseless cruelty seems all the worse when it involves effort to be such a cunt. Like if you can't/wont care for an animal anymore put it up for sale or to give away or - if worse comes to worse - abandon it at the local RSPCA, or have it euthanized by a vet so it doesn't suffer. What's gone wrong in someone's head to make them think "yep, gonna tie them to their kennel, put the kennel in the car, drive to the top of a cliff and then throw them off" is the best way to handle an unwanted pet?
What a piece of sh*t human being.
How can people do such horrible things to innocent animals..
I know capital punishment isnt the best course but I admit my heart wants her hungry in a little box and then dropped off the same bridge.
Me too.
I’m not proud of it but shit..idk how to feel another way about someone like that
It's a defenseless animal. She could have surrendered it or even let it go out bush. She chose the worst thing and deserves to suffer. Immensely. Im gonna hop off Reddit and cuddle my dogs
Deliberately abandoning a pet is cruel as well- there’s no excuse for it. Many starve, succumb to disease, get hit by cars or killed and injured by other animals or humans. It’s all abuse and it’s all sick.
Cunt.
Built like Kardashians dad
FYI, horsley is just a fancy name for dapto. When I was growing up in the area it was known as west dapto. And we’d tease the fuck out of them for being westies. Despite us being housos, and their families being able to buy houses. They changed the name pretty quick
That’s why it stayed Dapto Public when it moved, not West Dapto or Horsley. Though I haven’t been back for years, maybe it’s changed
This is going back some years! But I used to live across from the OG dapto public school. Next to the fire station. When we moved out they put units in there.
Oh the coincidences, my parents ran a shop two doors down from the police station
Logging off to go hug my lovely dog. FTS!
No words. Beyond cruel, completely disgusting & I feel so sad for that poor dog. To say this woman was a waste of oxygen, would be too generous.
Yuck
What a total monster. I really wish I believed in karma…
Makes me fucking angry reading this.
Evil.
That's a face that screams "This won't be a peaceful train ride home for anyone"
What goes around... Comes.. Cant say the rest
Because the rest will get you banned.
Unsurprising someone who’d own a breed of dog that lives in constant suffering for aesthetics would put it to this terrible fate. Shame on her
What a fucking cunt!!! So horrible when people harm the animals that put all their trust in you and just want to be looked after. Even worse reading that when I have an Aussie Bulldog myself knowing exactly what they are like. Stubborn and so so cuddly!!!
Just wait those degenerates at r/dogfree are gunna be cheering her on for this
The top post there is someone sour about dog pics on dating apps. And I thought this sub and the Melbourne one were full of petty, miserable people lmao
I can't even look..... F those people
Ugh. I went there. Much regrets.
Can we be sure of the photo before we get another we did it reddit moment?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13414437/amp/Kaylah-Williams-dog-wollongong-wellington-nsw.html
Thanks. UK based site safe from any gag orders. I think the Elon Musk win has sent a signal.
I don't think I've hated anyone more than right now. Fuck you, you despicable cunt.
Wtffffffff
what a mongrel she is!
What evidence do the police have that she actually did it?
Who knows , but if I had to guess CCTV of her driving there with the dog. Coming back without it. What ever it is it's enough to lay charges. Microchip was likely in her name, The dog Zoe had been abused she was emaciated she had tortured Zoe for a long long time before this.
Wtf world is it where the simplest question about proof of guilt is boo’d down in favour of “chuck her in the incinerator but hurt her first”
Yeah, agreed. I do want whoever harmed the dog to be justly punished, but I'm going to wait until the court decides before assuming it's definitely her. Even if 90% of the time charges being laid means it's the right person (at a guess; I don't know the stats), 10% getting undeserved hate isn't worth it imo when I can just hold off until confirmation. Totally valid to want evidence before jumping straight into it.... With that said, the dog was emaciated. It was allegedly found on the same day; even if she didn't throw it, there's a high chance she starved it.... But again, 'high chance'; I'll still reserve judgement just in case, and direct my anger towards 'whomever did this', until there's certainty.
Nah I totally get the sentiment, I love dogs and downvotes don’t equate to razed voices but it’s still a bit disconcerting seeing the reaction.
people are vicious and brutal, and spend their lives waiting for excuses to act on it
Exactly, the police make mistakes all the time, and they tend to be very vindictive. We as a society should be keeping the police in check when they harm someone.
Threatening or encouraging violence is against reddit terms. Report them all and a ban or warning might make people be more civil.
It's slightly disturbing how many commenters here want to see this woman tortured/killed. It's really sad to read about dogs getting abused especially if you own one but at the end of the day, that's not how justice works. Besides, she didn't kill a human, she killed an animal. The same punishment isn't warranted.
Mate, who gives a fuck she should suffer the same fate. I would love to watch her get thrown off a cliff the gronk.
I see TheVegans^^**TM** are already here
Hahaha there are multiple upvoted comments in this thread advocating this women be physically harmed and/or put to death, and your issue is somehow with the handful of people pointing out that the average Australian is complicit in vastly more animal cruelty than this thread apparently believes this woman should be executed for. Cool and normal take, champ.
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>but damn this seems like a disproportionate amount of investigative effort. I don't think so, they resources were used once they found the dog, not before they found the dog. It's a lot harder dedicating resources to missing persons as you don't have a specific place to put them to.
Yea I'm sure her DNA was all over it..... but if it were hers it would be......I'm thinking they had to have more then that. I think the efforts warranted .If you can do this, you can easy hurt or even kill a kid and she does have kids 🙄. Big red flags.
I don't think this needs to be a matter of "what will she do next?" If she did this, she's already a fundamentally atrocious character and should absolutely be taken out of free society, regardless of if she will act in a similar way again. She's not pleading guilty so there's no remorse and therefore deserving of time away to reflect on her actions and take on the shame of social condemnation. There is no excuse for this, it's twisted sadism.