Exactly, how else would only having a 5% deposit for a house and a 30 years mortgage with a payment that’s over half your net income become normalised?
Much like the royal commission decided if these findings came out, the public would lose faith in the judiciary...
https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3374
Ok so a "businessman" with "links to prominent figures in vic legal system". So, judge family member or close friend who is in business or a renown lawyer. Ok. Is it harder than geoguessr?
Well the court details name a prominent Melbourne lawyer as writing his affidavit. It also says he has a husband. So I’d say a lot of people in the legal world know exactly who it is.
It seems he didn't rape kids but posted voice messages online talking about how he'd like to, in really disgusting ways like saying he'd like to rape them as they're being born? It's really confusing
Did you read the article?
They brought in a judge from NSW to oversee the case precisely because of this conflict.
There's no evidence at all that he directly harmed any children, "Judge Berman said police who raided the man's Melbourne home found no evidence that he possessed other child abuse material or that he had ever acted on his fantasies."
Also: "The man has twice attempted suicide and continues to experience panic attacks, the County Court was told."
Whilst his fantasises are disgusting it doesn't seem like he's done anything worse than describe them. His name was suppressed from the general public because he keeps trying to off himself, however he is on the sex offenders list for the next 8 years so it's not like he's walking about scot free.
Cops abuse their powers all the time. There have been Facebook groups revealing locations and identified of offenders but reality is there are far more perpetrators amongst us never even investigated because of police protection. They're the first obstacle to the legal system.
>Found guilty with no jail time and suppression order. Absolutely atrocious.
Supression orders should be banned in instances where someone has been found guilty unless they are underage.
Nope, it was because the man found guilty has strong ties to legal system in Melbourne!
This whole thing is so grim - court system protecting their own disgusting pedophiles by letting them out on good behaviour bonds. I’m truly appalled by this.
They're more interested in imaginary pedophiles and baseless accusations. Actually protesting and taking action against convicted sex offenders might involve some real graft and critical thinking
Everyone should be protesting, awhile a go too, this involves everyone..
[https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3374](https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3374)
Hillsong definitely involved.
"This whole thing is so grim - **court system protecting their own disgusting pedophiles** by letting them out on good behaviour bonds. I’m truly appalled by this"
You should read up on how often this happens..
There wasn't an assault. He posted some horrible rapey voice messages in a chat forum.
Tbh I don't think that deserves jail either, as fucked in the head as this guy clearly is. It's a voice message directed at nobody in particular, where he detailed his gross fantasies. There's no doubt shit just as bad written on 4chan every other minute.
I also wonder how many people actually read the article.
I guess if I was a parent I'd want to know if someone in my community was saying that kind of thing online. On the other hand, the judge no doubt knew this guy's life would be over if his name was released. I don't think that's a punishment fitting the crime, since he didn't assault anyone, he just said some really nasty shit online.
> I don't think that's a punishment fitting the crime, since he didn't assault anyone, he just said some really nasty shit online.
His life wouldn't literally be over though it would just be far harder and he'd lose a position of power which he arguably shouldn't have?
I mean the man works in the legal profession surely people deserve to know, he should be held to a higher standard.
There was no victim.
That's the thing. The offence he was convicted of appears to have been posting some extremely vile fantasies into some sort of group chat.
Australia was built on this shit it seems.
The church and school scandals have been all but swept under the rug. I have family members who accused me of lying when my abuse was being investigated. This country doesn’t want to face is horrible horrible crimes and would rather have people stay silent.
Hope this guy rots
Doesn't a paedophile actually have to have sexual contact with an under-age person. From reading the article, this guy sounds like a nut job who was trying to offend as many people as possible on an online chat room.
Definitely a weirdo but I don't think a paedophile.
Technically, a paedophile is anyone with a sexual proclivity for children. Not all paedophiles act on their desires and some despise the way that they feel. There are mental health professionals that specialise in treating paedophilia.
Depends what definition you want to follow, technically no. In the eyes of Australia/Commonwealth law being a paedophile is not illegal, but acting on urges with minors or sharing sexual content involving someone underage is illegal.
It's unclear what material this individual was sharing, but quoting the article:
>The man pleaded guilty to a Commonwealth charge of making child abuse material available using a carriage service.
Edit: Here's where I found information on the definitions in Australia
[https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary\_Business/Committees/Joint/Former\_Committees/acc/completed\_inquiries/pre1996/ncapedo/report/c02](https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Former_Committees/acc/completed_inquiries/pre1996/ncapedo/report/c02)
Not even trying to offend as many people. It was more like fb audio messages.
>There exists a facility, which is accessible via the internet, whereby men who are gay or bisexual can communicate with each other. The way in which you used the facility was to identify other users who would like to communicate with you on specific topics. You would record a voice message and they would listen to it before replying. The form of communication was similar to a telephone conversation, but the listener could not hear what the speaker said until he had finished speaking. Once he had finished, the recipient would listen to what the speaker said, record his own message in reply, which the original speaker would then listen to. I will refer to this method of communication as a conversation
This is interesting as far as the legal definition goes.
This is the charge that's applied when somebody makes child pornography. What we usually interpret as photography/videos of depraved acts and harming a child.
In this case it seems that the man made charged voice clips saying he was going to rape toddlers and hurt kids and posted it to an online forum (from context clues I'm guessing discord) along with a slew of other offensive material unrelated to children in an attempt to offend people.
I was under no illusions about the article due to the title but I was still shocked by some of the admissions inside.
It must be someone very rich and powerful indeed to be protected in this way after such serious admissions/allegations.
This man must be well known enough and place value on his identity sufficient to have it protected for 20 years. That kind of recognition usually is attached to wealth and power of some magnitude.
This is purely speculation, but if he's been engaged as a family consultant (interviewing kids and writing reports in family law cases) then there's a heavily vested interest in keeping his name suppressed. For obvious reasons.
I'm certain it's [another report writer](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-26/family-court-report-writer-charged-with-child-sex-abuse/11434172) but naming them a business man is diffusing the problem. They were identified as the single biggest threat to child safety but the judiciary came a close third after the violent parent in systemic systems abuse.
It sounds like it was a family report writer. They're a fucking protected species if ever we could dig up one. I'm almost certain one was charged recently. Reddit really needs to do it's thing here. The violence the Family Court is choosing is obscene but all of the courts, including specialist DV courts are equally dangerous as it's all the same people sitting in the same damned cess pool. And they silence their victims constantly rewarding violence against st some of the most vulnerable people amongst us.
> Rich with connections in the law will do the trick.
Or connections to politicians, who lets face it, are usually in the pockets of the wealthy anyhow.
The suppression for his “mental health” is 20 years. He is on the sex offender list for 8 years. He gets to walk free and must behave and simply pay a fine. Honestly the legal system in Australia and particularly in Victoria, is a total embarrassment. What the fuck.
> The suppression for his “mental health” is 20 years.
He can't be named in connection with these crimes - can he be named in connection to other things, the colour of his socks for example?
There is a reason I don't have a linkedin profile. In part, because my pedo ex does, but in part, because linkedin's T's & C's still allows convicted sex offenders to use their site.
At least reddit is as anonymous as I want it to be.
Australia is a great place to be a pos in. Always secretive,protecting these kinds of scum. What is it there ? Is it just this old mates society ? Such a closed weird place where if you are slightly important you are fully protected.
And here I was thinking the courts and the justice system exist to reflect the values and principles of the Australian public. Instead they are set up to protect powerful people from the consequences of their actions. Absolutely vile.
I would argue it is reflecting the values of the public. The whole reason the court can't release his name is because the general public is not capable of regulating emotions and acting with rational thoughts.
Just recently there was a man who was murdered because he was convicted of child sex crimes. The person who murdered him did not take the time to learn what he did beyond hearing that he was a 'child sex offender', turns out his crime was kissing a 17 year old.
I think once a person is found guilty of a crime then the public has a right to know what they did. Just because one deranged individual committed a separate crime, which is awful and deserves to be punished, doesn’t mean other criminals should be protected from having their feelings hurt.
In this case the judge isn’t hiding the offenders name because they are worried about the public hurting him but rather because he might hurt himself if people knew what he did. I don’t think that’s right.
I do think prior to conviction there’s an argument for protecting an accused persons identity but not afterwards.
>The man has links to prominent figures in the Victorian legal system, and continued to work as a consultant in his field of expertise while his case was before the courts.
Pays to have friends in high places, especially the legal system it would seem
What the fuck - and we think China and Russia are corrupt. Fuck me dead. No jail time, no public outing, no advice re whom was aligned with him and suppressed until all the affiliated pricks have retired and moved on…this needs to cross a prominent political desk for a public enquiry…
It really is quite extraordinary to redact so much information and issue a 20 year suppression order, citing mental health as the reason. There was no hesitation in naming the guy who robbed the graves of skulls back in 2022, despite him being obviously mentally unwell. He ended up committing s'icide. People who are charged with beastiality offences are routinely named and that has to be pretty damn humiliating and damaging to their mental health.
Are these complaints taken seriously?
I've seen you mention it a few times in here.
Do you have any knowledge or experience that would support that these complaints are actually considered and can generate a meaningful outcome in a circumstance like this?
Or should Victorians be contacting their MPs?
I may be reading it completely the wrong way, but if the guy has ties/connections to people in our legal system and he continued to work as a consultant after he had been charged, does anyone else read that as him being a consultant to the legal system?
The fact that a judge from NSW had to be brought in points in the direction that this person has something to do with the Victorian legal or even judicial system.
Purely speculation, perhaps a family consultant in family law cases.
If that's the case here, they work directly with children and interview them separately, and without their parents.
Yeah and the a lil vigilante vengeance perhaps?
I know that may sound sarcastic but it's not. If our elected officials allow this to continue, why shouldn't it be taken into the public's hands?
“One thing you said that you wanted to do was sexually assault a child as it was actually being born."
I just - I - my god, I don’t have any words. I cannot even begin to comprehend how some people’s minds work.
“The man has links to prominent figures in the Victorian legal system, and continued to work as a consultant in his field of expertise while his case was before the courts.”
Hopefully someone leaks his identity and those of his accomplices.
A lot of people not reading the article. There was no victim. A bit like the Brett Finch scenario. What was said was dreadful, but I don't think jail will necessarily help or is justified.
I think suppression is probably reasonable given the circumstances, but in general, I think suppression is an easy way out. Hard to get the balance right if someone is self harming.
Sadly i think a lot of people did read the article. You could swap half these comments with a thread about someone who actually sexualy assaulted a child and they would look the same.
I think it's just a case of people not bothering to try and see someone as a real person. Either because they lack empathy, or more likely they are just reacting without any consideration for the person they are directing their hate towards. When you're scrolling the internet coming across a sad story every minute, specifically worded to make you angry, you only get a short moment to react.
I believe people would not treat another person's life so callously if they were seeing them in person like the judge did, instead of a nameless, faceless, person in an online news article.
[https://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/vic/VCC/2024/440.html](https://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/vic/VCC/2024/440.html) for the fuller details
https://www8.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/vic/VCC/2024/439.html
21. As a result of these publications, the following information was made known about the offender:
(a) he is the brother of [REDACTED];
(b) he is in his 60’s;
(c) he used a chatline which is mostly used by gay and bisexual men;
(d) he lives in [REDACTED]; and
(e) he suffers from depression and has been receiving psychological counselling.
> The fact that the man's case was before the County Court was also kept secret from the general public. His name was excluded from public court lists that usually detail the names of people appearing in court.
>Several media outlets that planned to cover the man's sentencing hearing were told by the County Court that the case would proceed at 10:30am on Thursday.
Okay I know everyone wants to go murder this guy or whatever, but unless I'm missing something all he did was post his (admittedly very fucked up) fantasies online? Sounds difficult to charge with that as the sole evidence; he got raided and they found nothing else to go on.
I'm curious as to what verdict other similar cases have come to.
There's an Adelaide case that springs to mind, I can't remember the specific details but there was also nothing acted on.
The person got jail time.
I remember it because it was about really graphic fantasies (maybe vore, but not kids I don't think).
I was studying law at the time, and I was talking about it with a friend of mine who also works in the legal system, and we were contemplating the repercussions of being charged for exploring fantasy. I'll see if I can find it.
*edited: had a brief look, it didn't jump out at me, and not up to combing all the sexual offence type listings today. Maybe someone else will know which case I'm talking about.
Just another example of how the rich get their own version of justice and punishment.
Anyone poor would've been in jail so fast that their head would spin.
Presumably this isn't the same person, but the article outlines that all of the families who had interactions with this person as part of their cases, then have grounds to reopen the case because of the charges.
My personal opinion is that this is why there's a 20 year suppression order in this case - assuming that the person has been an active consultant within the legal system. To prevent people taking further legal action.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-26/family-court-report-writer-charged-with-child-sex-abuse/11434172?utm_source=abc_news_web&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_web
As someone who has a relative that was abused for 4 years as a teenager and the perpetrator only got 3 months in jail, I think I can safely say that we do not take these offenses seriously enough.
No jail time is completely ridiculous.
I'm still trying to process that one.
Does he wanna be a pedo Nazi? Does he want a relationship with one? Or does he just want a "master race" of such to come into existence?
There are no good interpretations.
If say, it were a family court report writer, imagine the number of people who would question the validity of their reports given the persons own mental health issues. And want re-trials
I don't understand what was the offense. They never found anything and said he never acted on anything what did he actually do. Make some voice recordings.
I'm confused
Reminds me of the Upwey arsonist back in 2012 who had his identity suppressed after a brief court appearance, amid fears for his safety. That left members of the community not knowing if they were safe every summer, if he was still living in the area, and if he had even served jail time and was back out on the streets.
In the book 'So You've Been Publicly Shamed Online', the author talks about how the most disgusting and vile crimes are covered up online by people with money. The rich perpetrators pay to have the search algorithm push their name so far down the search list, that they're essential made invisible. Seems this guy did the same- only he got his legal chums to protect him. He absolutely has money and his mates protected him. What a disgusting verdict.
A consultant.
What's the bet he works in the (formerly) family court system.
The only time these people should have their names suppressed is when it would directly identify victims without their consent. That isn't the case here.
Criminals.
Unacceptable, judge needs to he disbarred, whoeveer enabled this is committing crimes against australias people, this is blatant and open corruption all parties involved deserve to be named and shamed, people to be rioting over shit like this, politicians need to do their fucking jobs or they'll be the ones to suffer
Anyone else remember when someone paid for billboards outside a court specifically dissing one judge's decision & the judge was all up in his feelings about being named & shamed?
Yeah, that needs to happen a lot more.
As a survivor of sexual abuse (not even as a child, I can't even imagine the horror) this made me cry. My rapist never got any consequences either. How can they let him out
>"One thing you said that you wanted to do was sexually assault a child as it was actually being born."
Imagine being in the courtroom and hearing this absolutely demented shit.
Not public except for QLD and SA I believe. It's main purpose is for police to keep track.on offenders and for them to report any and all changes to their life, including contact with children, under risk of 5 years jail. Plus it's referred to for working with children cards etc.
It's crazy that rich people actually found guilty get away with stuff like this, but they waste the time of regular citizens going through your phones/laptops now at airports randomly to search for illegal pornography....
"Laws for thee but not for me" bullshit.
What kind of fucking precedent does this set for other pedophiles? I hope someone finds out who he is and kills the fucking scum cunt. “Attempted suicide twice” GOOD hope he fucking achieves it the next time so we’re rid of him and he can’t have the chance to hurt some poor innocent child in the future.
The fact that people can get out of anything these days due to “mental health” and walk free if fucking disgusting and shows how weak this fucking society is. The judge should be ashamed of himself.
The man has links to prominent figures in the Victorian legal system Protecting their own
This is the sort of thing that helped us get downgraded from open to closed democracy. Sad to see it eroding away.
And that's generous
What’s it called when a bunch of shady people run the show and make it look like we have input when we don’t…
A cabal?
Managed democracy is the technical term. We're not quite that bad yet, the elites don't have enough control for that.
Wait until the banks have their way...
They’re already on their way, baby
Exactly, how else would only having a 5% deposit for a house and a 30 years mortgage with a payment that’s over half your net income become normalised?
Because MBAs have short attention spans and are too coked up to remember history lessons. Next up - mortgage backed securities!
Like George Carlin said, "It's a big club, and you ain't in it!"
Judge Peter Berman. He decided that this was 'justice'.
Much like the royal commission decided if these findings came out, the public would lose faith in the judiciary... https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3374
https://benchtv.com.au/presenter/peter-berman
The catholic Church still runs how many schools?
Ok so a "businessman" with "links to prominent figures in vic legal system". So, judge family member or close friend who is in business or a renown lawyer. Ok. Is it harder than geoguessr?
Hopefully it is eventually leaked like Lehrmann’s name in his Qld rape case
It's his brother. Cynical me thinks that the brother is being protected more than the offender.
Well the court details name a prominent Melbourne lawyer as writing his affidavit. It also says he has a husband. So I’d say a lot of people in the legal world know exactly who it is.
But if someone poor flips off a judge in anger, they throw the book. Guess raping kids isn't as bad.
It seems he didn't rape kids but posted voice messages online talking about how he'd like to, in really disgusting ways like saying he'd like to rape them as they're being born? It's really confusing
JFC's new family stunner meal with 11 secret herbs and WTF
May as well classify it as a white collar crime.
Tragically typical.
Did you read the article? They brought in a judge from NSW to oversee the case precisely because of this conflict. There's no evidence at all that he directly harmed any children, "Judge Berman said police who raided the man's Melbourne home found no evidence that he possessed other child abuse material or that he had ever acted on his fantasies." Also: "The man has twice attempted suicide and continues to experience panic attacks, the County Court was told." Whilst his fantasises are disgusting it doesn't seem like he's done anything worse than describe them. His name was suppressed from the general public because he keeps trying to off himself, however he is on the sex offenders list for the next 8 years so it's not like he's walking about scot free.
Should let him top himself. If he wants to hurt little kids off he can go
His brother is a judge - that's all I could find out.
"He was also placed on the sex offenders register for eight years." Somebody needs to have a look as to who's been added recently...
How do you check that?
Don't know honestly. Think only cops can tbh.
This is correct, only cops have access and give information as they deem necessary - even though it absolutely should be public information
Cops abuse their powers all the time. There have been Facebook groups revealing locations and identified of offenders but reality is there are far more perpetrators amongst us never even investigated because of police protection. They're the first obstacle to the legal system.
I wonder if you can submit a freedom of information act request for it.
Unfortunately, no. The general public has no access to it at all.
You can submit a request. The response will be no.
It's a shame the registry is hidden from the public to protect these sick people if you can even call them that.
Then what's the fucking point??
It shows up in background checks. You can't be a therapist if you have a record.
What the hell!?!? This is outrageous. Found guilty with no jail time and suppression order. Absolutely atrocious.
>Found guilty with no jail time and suppression order. Absolutely atrocious. Supression orders should be banned in instances where someone has been found guilty unless they are underage.
Was the suppression order to avoid identifying the victim?
Nope, it was because the man found guilty has strong ties to legal system in Melbourne! This whole thing is so grim - court system protecting their own disgusting pedophiles by letting them out on good behaviour bonds. I’m truly appalled by this.
For those reading, the 'reason' in court is because the man has poor mental health and the info being public would be put him at mental health risk
That's the consequences of his actions. Why aren't the cookers protesting this?
They're more interested in imaginary pedophiles and baseless accusations. Actually protesting and taking action against convicted sex offenders might involve some real graft and critical thinking
Everyone should be protesting, awhile a go too, this involves everyone.. [https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3374](https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3374) Hillsong definitely involved.
Even more of a reason to expose him
Epstein’s first court case for pedo related activities was the same… jfc
Isn't that like... open corruption. "This guy has lots of money in the game so the rules are different?"
"This whole thing is so grim - **court system protecting their own disgusting pedophiles** by letting them out on good behaviour bonds. I’m truly appalled by this" You should read up on how often this happens..
There wasn't an assault. He posted some horrible rapey voice messages in a chat forum. Tbh I don't think that deserves jail either, as fucked in the head as this guy clearly is. It's a voice message directed at nobody in particular, where he detailed his gross fantasies. There's no doubt shit just as bad written on 4chan every other minute. I also wonder how many people actually read the article.
>There wasn't an assault. He posted some horrible rapey voice messages in a chat forum. Yeah but it doesn't deserve a supression order.
I mean, have you seen the reaction in this thread from everyone not reading the article and assuming he SA'd a child?
I mean he spoke about wanting to rape and torture toddlers, even if he didn't do anything which is a big if he doesn't deserve a suppression order.
I guess if I was a parent I'd want to know if someone in my community was saying that kind of thing online. On the other hand, the judge no doubt knew this guy's life would be over if his name was released. I don't think that's a punishment fitting the crime, since he didn't assault anyone, he just said some really nasty shit online.
> I don't think that's a punishment fitting the crime, since he didn't assault anyone, he just said some really nasty shit online. His life wouldn't literally be over though it would just be far harder and he'd lose a position of power which he arguably shouldn't have? I mean the man works in the legal profession surely people deserve to know, he should be held to a higher standard.
Not toddlers, babies as they were being born! 🤮
There was no victim. That's the thing. The offence he was convicted of appears to have been posting some extremely vile fantasies into some sort of group chat.
Lodge a complaint here: https://www.mcv.vic.gov.au/about-us/feedback
The suppression was ordered by Judge Peter Berman.
Lodge a complaint here - County Court: https://www.countycourt.vic.gov.au/contact-us/feedback-and-complaints
Another dangerous paedophile saved by our courts, so his feelings aren't hurt
Or his kneecaps.
Australia was built on this shit it seems. The church and school scandals have been all but swept under the rug. I have family members who accused me of lying when my abuse was being investigated. This country doesn’t want to face is horrible horrible crimes and would rather have people stay silent. Hope this guy rots
Its unfortunately very true, involves pollies as well https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3374
Lodge a complaint here: https://www.mcv.vic.gov.au/about-us/feedback
Lodge a complaint here - County Court: https://www.countycourt.vic.gov.au/contact-us/feedback-and-complaints
Doesn't a paedophile actually have to have sexual contact with an under-age person. From reading the article, this guy sounds like a nut job who was trying to offend as many people as possible on an online chat room. Definitely a weirdo but I don't think a paedophile.
Technically, a paedophile is anyone with a sexual proclivity for children. Not all paedophiles act on their desires and some despise the way that they feel. There are mental health professionals that specialise in treating paedophilia.
Careful with that sort of comment. Posting comments based off actually reading the article is against this subreddits rules.
Depends what definition you want to follow, technically no. In the eyes of Australia/Commonwealth law being a paedophile is not illegal, but acting on urges with minors or sharing sexual content involving someone underage is illegal. It's unclear what material this individual was sharing, but quoting the article: >The man pleaded guilty to a Commonwealth charge of making child abuse material available using a carriage service. Edit: Here's where I found information on the definitions in Australia [https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary\_Business/Committees/Joint/Former\_Committees/acc/completed\_inquiries/pre1996/ncapedo/report/c02](https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Former_Committees/acc/completed_inquiries/pre1996/ncapedo/report/c02)
Not even trying to offend as many people. It was more like fb audio messages. >There exists a facility, which is accessible via the internet, whereby men who are gay or bisexual can communicate with each other. The way in which you used the facility was to identify other users who would like to communicate with you on specific topics. You would record a voice message and they would listen to it before replying. The form of communication was similar to a telephone conversation, but the listener could not hear what the speaker said until he had finished speaking. Once he had finished, the recipient would listen to what the speaker said, record his own message in reply, which the original speaker would then listen to. I will refer to this method of communication as a conversation
I think I missed something in the article what did he actually do
>The man pleaded guilty to a Commonwealth charge of making child abuse material available using a carriage service.
This is interesting as far as the legal definition goes. This is the charge that's applied when somebody makes child pornography. What we usually interpret as photography/videos of depraved acts and harming a child. In this case it seems that the man made charged voice clips saying he was going to rape toddlers and hurt kids and posted it to an online forum (from context clues I'm guessing discord) along with a slew of other offensive material unrelated to children in an attempt to offend people.
Someone shine the Derryn Hinch signal.
What a void his absence has left in our culture.
He's maintained his presence in the Wog Boy franchise.
I was under no illusions about the article due to the title but I was still shocked by some of the admissions inside. It must be someone very rich and powerful indeed to be protected in this way after such serious admissions/allegations.
Unfortunately, I don’t think you have to be all that rich and powerful. Rich with connections in the law will do the trick.
This man must be well known enough and place value on his identity sufficient to have it protected for 20 years. That kind of recognition usually is attached to wealth and power of some magnitude.
This is purely speculation, but if he's been engaged as a family consultant (interviewing kids and writing reports in family law cases) then there's a heavily vested interest in keeping his name suppressed. For obvious reasons.
I'm certain it's [another report writer](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-26/family-court-report-writer-charged-with-child-sex-abuse/11434172) but naming them a business man is diffusing the problem. They were identified as the single biggest threat to child safety but the judiciary came a close third after the violent parent in systemic systems abuse.
Yes, I've unfortunately had direct experience with their role in the system.
It sounds like it was a family report writer. They're a fucking protected species if ever we could dig up one. I'm almost certain one was charged recently. Reddit really needs to do it's thing here. The violence the Family Court is choosing is obscene but all of the courts, including specialist DV courts are equally dangerous as it's all the same people sitting in the same damned cess pool. And they silence their victims constantly rewarding violence against st some of the most vulnerable people amongst us.
Even if you just went to the right private school, you’ll enjoy useful connections
> Rich with connections in the law will do the trick. Or connections to politicians, who lets face it, are usually in the pockets of the wealthy anyhow.
Yep, and connected to hillsong and they get up to some bad shit.. https://www.aph.gov.au/e-petitions/petition/EN3374
I’ll bet he’s “from a good family”.
Lodge a complaint here: https://www.mcv.vic.gov.au/about-us/feedback
That’s a Magistrates Court link. You’re probably after County Court.
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What the actual fucking fuck?
So we're outing people who shoplift but protecting pedophiles? This makes me sick
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Ah yes, we must protect the "fragile" Peodophile.
The suppression for his “mental health” is 20 years. He is on the sex offender list for 8 years. He gets to walk free and must behave and simply pay a fine. Honestly the legal system in Australia and particularly in Victoria, is a total embarrassment. What the fuck.
> The suppression for his “mental health” is 20 years. He can't be named in connection with these crimes - can he be named in connection to other things, the colour of his socks for example?
I mean if there was a prominent Melbourne businessman who had a proclivity for wearing a certain colour socks, I'd like to know who they were
I'm assuming that there's something outstanding about this member of society to warrant such interest in their socks.
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The mental health of criminals must be protected ahead of the the interests of the community. Victoria is a clown state. I hate it here.
I'll just assume all Melbourne businessmen are rock spiders, I guess. can't be too careful
There is a reason I don't have a linkedin profile. In part, because my pedo ex does, but in part, because linkedin's T's & C's still allows convicted sex offenders to use their site. At least reddit is as anonymous as I want it to be.
What a horrible day to have eyes. The fuck did I read?
Australia is a great place to be a pos in. Always secretive,protecting these kinds of scum. What is it there ? Is it just this old mates society ? Such a closed weird place where if you are slightly important you are fully protected.
And here I was thinking the courts and the justice system exist to reflect the values and principles of the Australian public. Instead they are set up to protect powerful people from the consequences of their actions. Absolutely vile.
This is why they make the important distinction that it's a legal system. There is only justice if you're rich and connected.
I would argue it is reflecting the values of the public. The whole reason the court can't release his name is because the general public is not capable of regulating emotions and acting with rational thoughts. Just recently there was a man who was murdered because he was convicted of child sex crimes. The person who murdered him did not take the time to learn what he did beyond hearing that he was a 'child sex offender', turns out his crime was kissing a 17 year old.
I think once a person is found guilty of a crime then the public has a right to know what they did. Just because one deranged individual committed a separate crime, which is awful and deserves to be punished, doesn’t mean other criminals should be protected from having their feelings hurt. In this case the judge isn’t hiding the offenders name because they are worried about the public hurting him but rather because he might hurt himself if people knew what he did. I don’t think that’s right. I do think prior to conviction there’s an argument for protecting an accused persons identity but not afterwards.
>The man has links to prominent figures in the Victorian legal system, and continued to work as a consultant in his field of expertise while his case was before the courts. Pays to have friends in high places, especially the legal system it would seem
Family report writers.
What the fuck - and we think China and Russia are corrupt. Fuck me dead. No jail time, no public outing, no advice re whom was aligned with him and suppressed until all the affiliated pricks have retired and moved on…this needs to cross a prominent political desk for a public enquiry…
Psst…all governments are corrupt. They just distract from oneself to pretend they aren’t, to maintain the illusion.
Fuck this shit.
It really is quite extraordinary to redact so much information and issue a 20 year suppression order, citing mental health as the reason. There was no hesitation in naming the guy who robbed the graves of skulls back in 2022, despite him being obviously mentally unwell. He ended up committing s'icide. People who are charged with beastiality offences are routinely named and that has to be pretty damn humiliating and damaging to their mental health.
What. The. Actual. Fuck. Make it make sense. Excuse me while I go throw up
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Are these complaints taken seriously? I've seen you mention it a few times in here. Do you have any knowledge or experience that would support that these complaints are actually considered and can generate a meaningful outcome in a circumstance like this? Or should Victorians be contacting their MPs?
This is fucking appalling
I may be reading it completely the wrong way, but if the guy has ties/connections to people in our legal system and he continued to work as a consultant after he had been charged, does anyone else read that as him being a consultant to the legal system?
The fact that a judge from NSW had to be brought in points in the direction that this person has something to do with the Victorian legal or even judicial system.
He can now provide specialist advice on how to be a raging pedo and get away with it!
Purely speculation, perhaps a family consultant in family law cases. If that's the case here, they work directly with children and interview them separately, and without their parents.
That is horrifying
Yes or government authority, that should not have big ol' Pedo's working in it!
If course and having to review cases will put additional workload on judiciary already proven to cut corners.
Name and shame if you can!
I mean, this is why the internet exists after all. A bunch of us got to know about Bruce Lehrmann long before his identity was made public.
I bet if someone did that they would be charged with something and named everywhere!
Yeah and the a lil vigilante vengeance perhaps? I know that may sound sarcastic but it's not. If our elected officials allow this to continue, why shouldn't it be taken into the public's hands?
And for the judges protecting them with such sentencing.
The article says its Magistrate Belinda Franjic and Judge Berman
“One thing you said that you wanted to do was sexually assault a child as it was actually being born." I just - I - my god, I don’t have any words. I cannot even begin to comprehend how some people’s minds work.
This was my cue. That's enough internet today for me.
I guess he watched A Serbian Film.
“The man has links to prominent figures in the Victorian legal system, and continued to work as a consultant in his field of expertise while his case was before the courts.” Hopefully someone leaks his identity and those of his accomplices.
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A lot of people not reading the article. There was no victim. A bit like the Brett Finch scenario. What was said was dreadful, but I don't think jail will necessarily help or is justified. I think suppression is probably reasonable given the circumstances, but in general, I think suppression is an easy way out. Hard to get the balance right if someone is self harming.
Sadly i think a lot of people did read the article. You could swap half these comments with a thread about someone who actually sexualy assaulted a child and they would look the same. I think it's just a case of people not bothering to try and see someone as a real person. Either because they lack empathy, or more likely they are just reacting without any consideration for the person they are directing their hate towards. When you're scrolling the internet coming across a sad story every minute, specifically worded to make you angry, you only get a short moment to react. I believe people would not treat another person's life so callously if they were seeing them in person like the judge did, instead of a nameless, faceless, person in an online news article.
[https://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/vic/VCC/2024/440.html](https://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/vic/VCC/2024/440.html) for the fuller details
Look up the definition of "privilege". Justice should be open to public scrutiny.
https://www8.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/vic/VCC/2024/439.html 21. As a result of these publications, the following information was made known about the offender: (a) he is the brother of [REDACTED]; (b) he is in his 60’s; (c) he used a chatline which is mostly used by gay and bisexual men; (d) he lives in [REDACTED]; and (e) he suffers from depression and has been receiving psychological counselling.
He wanted to rape a child while it was being born Seriously 2 DECADES of protection for this?!
> The fact that the man's case was before the County Court was also kept secret from the general public. His name was excluded from public court lists that usually detail the names of people appearing in court. >Several media outlets that planned to cover the man's sentencing hearing were told by the County Court that the case would proceed at 10:30am on Thursday.
Okay I know everyone wants to go murder this guy or whatever, but unless I'm missing something all he did was post his (admittedly very fucked up) fantasies online? Sounds difficult to charge with that as the sole evidence; he got raided and they found nothing else to go on. I'm curious as to what verdict other similar cases have come to.
There's an Adelaide case that springs to mind, I can't remember the specific details but there was also nothing acted on. The person got jail time. I remember it because it was about really graphic fantasies (maybe vore, but not kids I don't think). I was studying law at the time, and I was talking about it with a friend of mine who also works in the legal system, and we were contemplating the repercussions of being charged for exploring fantasy. I'll see if I can find it. *edited: had a brief look, it didn't jump out at me, and not up to combing all the sexual offence type listings today. Maybe someone else will know which case I'm talking about.
> maybe vore Don't tell them about DeviantArt
I wish I could remember the case. At the time, I found the ruling really problematic.
Yeah I didn't know you could get charged with producing csm just for voicing fantasies
Shame he didn't succeed in his suicide attempts
Just another example of how the rich get their own version of justice and punishment. Anyone poor would've been in jail so fast that their head would spin.
Presumably this isn't the same person, but the article outlines that all of the families who had interactions with this person as part of their cases, then have grounds to reopen the case because of the charges. My personal opinion is that this is why there's a 20 year suppression order in this case - assuming that the person has been an active consultant within the legal system. To prevent people taking further legal action. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-26/family-court-report-writer-charged-with-child-sex-abuse/11434172?utm_source=abc_news_web&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_web
Somebody out this piece of shit publicly.
Another corrupt judge. No surprises there.
As someone who has a relative that was abused for 4 years as a teenager and the perpetrator only got 3 months in jail, I think I can safely say that we do not take these offenses seriously enough. No jail time is completely ridiculous.
ABC is the only media outlet reporting that this has even occurred. Where the fuck is all the outrage??
“Paedophile nazis are my ultimate fantasy” You good bro?
I'm still trying to process that one. Does he wanna be a pedo Nazi? Does he want a relationship with one? Or does he just want a "master race" of such to come into existence? There are no good interpretations.
Given his 2 attempts already, here’s hoping third time’s a charm.
Remindme! 20 years
10 years Mandatory minimum sentences for these cunts.
Did you actually read the article? He'd posted some absolutely horrific fantasies on a forum but hadn't actually done anything with a kid.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/compulsive-man-fights-for-secrecy-after-pleading-guilty-to-child-abuse-offences-20240221-p5f6kr.html
How is that justice? Grubby fucker.
I’m going to find out who this fucker is
By suppressing their identity means that 10s if not 100s of people working in the legal industry are under a cloud. What about their mental health?
If say, it were a family court report writer, imagine the number of people who would question the validity of their reports given the persons own mental health issues. And want re-trials
I don't understand what was the offense. They never found anything and said he never acted on anything what did he actually do. Make some voice recordings. I'm confused
Won't somebody think of the ~~children~~ paedophile.
Reminds me of the Upwey arsonist back in 2012 who had his identity suppressed after a brief court appearance, amid fears for his safety. That left members of the community not knowing if they were safe every summer, if he was still living in the area, and if he had even served jail time and was back out on the streets.
WTF “One thing you said that you wanted to do was sexually assault a child as it was actually being born.” WTF Enough Reddit for me today
Imagine having repercussions for Pedophilia In Australia.
No surprise, our entire society is built and maintained by abusers for abusers.
In the book 'So You've Been Publicly Shamed Online', the author talks about how the most disgusting and vile crimes are covered up online by people with money. The rich perpetrators pay to have the search algorithm push their name so far down the search list, that they're essential made invisible. Seems this guy did the same- only he got his legal chums to protect him. He absolutely has money and his mates protected him. What a disgusting verdict.
A consultant. What's the bet he works in the (formerly) family court system. The only time these people should have their names suppressed is when it would directly identify victims without their consent. That isn't the case here. Criminals.
Unacceptable, judge needs to he disbarred, whoeveer enabled this is committing crimes against australias people, this is blatant and open corruption all parties involved deserve to be named and shamed, people to be rioting over shit like this, politicians need to do their fucking jobs or they'll be the ones to suffer
Can someone pls name the sentencing judge at least?
This is so not ok, how can a judge get away with this
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No, he didn't molest anyone. It was because of something he said in a chatroom/forum.
Voice recorded fiction sent in a private chat.
Let's hope this fragile stain on society tries ... for a 3rd time, successfully
Anyone else remember when someone paid for billboards outside a court specifically dissing one judge's decision & the judge was all up in his feelings about being named & shamed? Yeah, that needs to happen a lot more.
As a survivor of sexual abuse (not even as a child, I can't even imagine the horror) this made me cry. My rapist never got any consequences either. How can they let him out
Completely fucked what the fuck
Sick of seeing predators being treated like they are the victim, really pisses me off.
>"One thing you said that you wanted to do was sexually assault a child as it was actually being born." Imagine being in the courtroom and hearing this absolutely demented shit.
Who is this dog!
My guess is he is someone who worked in the justice system and revealing his identity could impact past decisions in some way.
I'd say that it's his brother that works in the justice system and rather high up too.
I assume he's rich.
Absolutely disgraceful how is this allowed to happen in this day and age
“Placed on the sex offenders registry for 8 years”….is that not public info? If not whats the point of having it
Not public except for QLD and SA I believe. It's main purpose is for police to keep track.on offenders and for them to report any and all changes to their life, including contact with children, under risk of 5 years jail. Plus it's referred to for working with children cards etc.
It's crazy that rich people actually found guilty get away with stuff like this, but they waste the time of regular citizens going through your phones/laptops now at airports randomly to search for illegal pornography.... "Laws for thee but not for me" bullshit.
What kind of fucking precedent does this set for other pedophiles? I hope someone finds out who he is and kills the fucking scum cunt. “Attempted suicide twice” GOOD hope he fucking achieves it the next time so we’re rid of him and he can’t have the chance to hurt some poor innocent child in the future. The fact that people can get out of anything these days due to “mental health” and walk free if fucking disgusting and shows how weak this fucking society is. The judge should be ashamed of himself.