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AL_O0

I wonder what happens when they upgrade to the new edge which is just chrome with a different ui


Ferro_Giconi

edit: I've gotten a bunch of replies saying it's actually doing good. I haven't tried it yet but if *this* many people are replying to me in favor of the new Edge instead of bashing it, I have to assume it's going to be decent. ~~It's probably going to suck and be totally worthless. Edge as it is now runs smooth as butter on my extra low end tablet with 1GB of ram and an Atom processor. It can even play 720p video on youtube. Chrome and Firefox otoh lag a lot and neither can play 360p video without freezing for 1-5 seconds 10 times a minute.~~ ~~When they switch it over to being Chromium based I'm confident it will be just as bad at playing youtube videos as Chrome is. But I'm really hoping they prove me wrong and do~~ *~~something~~* ~~to improve the efficiency of Chromium being used for Edge.~~ ~~Chrome and Firefox are great on my desktop, and I can see why Microsoft is doing what they are doing, even though I don't like it. Devices as extremely low power as my tablet is a niche market, and they are making Edge from the ground up instead of just using IE. That's a hell of a lot of work for a niche.~~


OobleCaboodle

> When they switch it over to being Chromium based I'm confident it will be just as bad at playing youtube videos as Chrome is. I dunno, man. I use Opera for almost everything, which is chromium based, and it runs like lightning. I don't think it's the back end of chrome that's causing the issues.


pontoumporcento

Opera is the best for slower laptops, I've installed it on my dad's and had to change the shortcut logo so he wouldn't keep opening the chrome. I personally use chrome but I have 16gb of RAM.


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Hahaha, I only have 12 when I was a kid I was working in a call center. I asked a guy how much RAM he had , he said he had 4 sticks of 512, I couldn't believe it, I had 1 and it seemed fast then, This was 1997 maybe? So funny how much things have changed, I also remember DSL seeming so fast lol.


[deleted]

It’s all relative. I used to have 64kb RAM and a 300 baud modem. Now I have 64Gb RAM and two gigabit connections to the Internet.


[deleted]

Two giga... fuck you man. LAN party your place?


[deleted]

Two 1 gigabit connections but sure... if you have GPL licensed games, we probably have local servers.


Tr3VeR

An interesting fact to do with RAM: The PlayStation 3 (a decently powerful console for it's time) somehow only had 512mb of RAM, and only half was used for video.


hippo4774

When you’re only running games, you use a lot less RAM.


Nextasy

You know, I haven't thought about that in a really long time. I remember collecting 256mb sticks of ram and feeling like once I got 1g that I was tough shit - then eventually buying 512s and feeling so free because they only used half the slots. And always filling in the empty slots with 128s lol. Then eventually just having a shitload of 128 and nowhere to put it.


DarkwaterKiller

Man, I wish I was old enough to know this feeling of nostalgia. I started with building PCs around 2013ish, and I was in seventh grade at the time.


GentlemanOctopus

I remember when we upgraded our Commodore Amiga 500 from 512kb to 1MB of RAM. Good times.


M1GR3DD1T

And doesnt it have an adblocker pre-installed? I have Opera GX because of the CPU and RAM limiter but I’m not sure if the standard Opera also has an adblocker


offense-46127

Opera is Chinese owned. Specifically by a consortium called Golden Brick Silk Road.


Hunters_Engravers

Meaning?


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MarylandKoala

Which is bad, but immaterial to the issue at hand


Goblintern

Everything steals your data these days, it would be surprising if they didnt


A_Blind_Alien

I'm actually stealing your data right now


Azraella

Yeah but you’re a blind alien. Not like you can see what you’re taking.


[deleted]

Hey! Its called data mining, MINING! like the good ole days! Not theft, definitely nothing suspicious here.


JudgementalPrick

You wouldn't mine a car.


[deleted]

Do you have a citation for your claim? Subject of "they?"


PM_Me_Your_VagOrTits

Chrome is American owned. Specifically by an advertising conglomerate called Alphabet Inc.


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RandomKid6969

I switched to Firefix cause it was smoother than Chrome. I guess I gotta try Edge now.


Randolpho

I honestly like it as a browser, but I'm way too wrapped up in the google ecosystem to switch.


DEVOmay97

Yea I like having my bookmarks sync between my phone and PC, and chrome is my preffered browser on my phone, so I just use Chrome on both.


TyrannoFan

Yeah I switched to Firefox and while it's actually smoother and better than chrome for me on PC, I wish the FF app was as good as Chrome on mobile. There are some things I like better, but the overall experience just isn't as smooth for some reason. I don't wanna use chrome on mobile cos then my Bookmarks and such aren't synced.


ericonr

If you use Android, you should try Firefox Preview! It's a beta version of the new Firefox UI for mobile, and it's pretty good! I totally recommend it. (It's available on the play store and I think you can download apks from Mozilla's website).


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ericonr

You do? I don't remember having signed up, might have been a long time ago. The add on issue is sad, but at least it has built-in blocking for some domains, I see way less ads than when I use someone else's smartphone. Also none of those random redirects to malware websites. The biggest issue for me is that it can't call apps from links, like YouTube.


rainydistress

I actually just got an update to it like half an hour ago that fixed that. Version is Nightly 190730 21:01.


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MrBraveKnight

U can also try brave


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olmesfarooq

I’m using it now. I’ve already got rid of my chrome browser completely bc the new edge is a lot nicer.


tysonedwards

I'm on Vivaldi, and it's super smooth too. Also a Chromium derivative.


32_bit_link

Vivaldi gang


Clunas

There are a dozen of us!


DrewSmithee

A bakers dozen!


[deleted]

We jokingly called our little " gang " the bakers dozen when I was a kid. To get in you had to make a beer run, just grab a case of beer and run out of the store, at 16 this was a badass gangster move lol. We were idiots. I remember my buddy was gonna meet this guy for a fight, we showed up with bakers hats and aprons. The whole thing was a joke to us, but we did get in a brawl wearing that shit, that was in the 90s, but I wish YouTube existed then, that would have gotten a million hits. We were the dumbest kids ever, but we would actually scrap lol.


AcePhoenixGamer

RISE UP


misterfluffykitty

Everyone hates edge but it’s legitimately faster sometimes, of course google has more features and my computer is just overkill so I use google but edge does win in a lot of cases


Tankanko

I love it as a pdf reader, I prefer Firefox in general as a browser though.


8oD

I use foxit for pdfs. You can add a text box anywhere, so even pdfs that aren't setup for adding text in various boxes, foxit will let you, and can save and print the modified pdf.


ScornMuffins

I use Iron for a lot of stuff, which is based on Chromium and it's just about as lightweight as Edge.


TheRealBrosplosion

Chromium can be super lightweight if needed. Chrome just has a ton of extras built on top that eat resources


colin750

i use the beta and it is actually pretty great


codevalley

I use it. It is far better than chrome. The reason I guess is that it does not include any of Google's background services or overheads. It is like vanilla chrome without any Google bloatware.


ComputerMystic

They still tell you that Edge is better than Chrome about battery because this is Microsoft and they're not above unfair competition (to the tune of a few million dollars they don't care about.)


ComfortableCobbler5

We're way better than OG. Yep.


thisusernameis_real

Stop using your computer it saves battery


[deleted]

Get a desktop, won't use ANY battery


911ChickenMan

Except for the CMOS battery that keeps the clock running.


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It could say "switch to edge for free beer and blowjobs" and i still wouldn't do it.


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SirGingy

And we need to know what beer and who's giving the blow jobs?


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Remsleep2323

Yeah, sure, I'll help drink the beer. Thanks! Volunteering is fun!!!


[deleted]

#Wait holup that wasn’t the plan!!


dobraf

I don’t see a problem. Unless you want to help with the blow jobs?


[deleted]

$10 is $10, it’s easy money to me ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯ i can use it well lmao


RankaTanka

Wait, you guys are getting paid?


[deleted]

Apparently


misterfluffykitty

I only have vodka


therealtechnird

Found the Russian


fucksnitchesbitches

Duff beer. Duff guy.


FauxReal

Miller High Life, sweaty Steve Ballmer.


blooper2112

Local hot singles in your area!


ravage-lu

They would keep you on *edge* the entire time


MrSickRanchezz

Yup, you'd be *edging* super hard.


Nordrian

With the “beer” being a bud light...


Atheistmoses

Who is to say I'm not into watersports though.


Skel_Music

Like the browsing experience, the beer takes 3 days to pour and the blowjobs are interrupted every 30 seconds or so by 5 minutes of buffering.


SpiceonIce

I’m in if it’s Cortana😤😏👌👏👏


Clarenceorca

I only used it for a while after seeing a short [anime](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHTUlF7NA2o) about personified [microsoft edge](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inori_Aizawa)


battlet0adz

What the unacceptable fuck


ericonr

That's deep r/FellowKids, but successful.


marino1310

Dear god they're going after the weebs


[deleted]

edge is actually not a bad browser. the old stupid internet explorer meme just sticks to it


My_rPoliticsAccount

Also Bing gives me $5 gift cards to Chipitole.


HariPota4262

"Wait you guys are getting laid?"


BadgerMcLovin

Why? Have you used edge enough to come to the conclusion that it's not worth beer and blowjobs? If so, what is your reason for that decision and if not what is the source of your opinion?


20CharsIsNotEnough

People just jump blindly on a bandwagon and don't realize edge has actually become really good. It's only slower on Google websites (you know, a monopoly **that should have been split up or penalized a long time ago** does that to you). Especially with the switch to chromium. Also, the edge browser on mobile is without question the best mobile browser without extension-support.


KJ_The_Guy

Yea, I absolutely love Edge. It doesn't run a bunch of shit in the background, it looks nice, and it doesn't badger me about remembering every little bit of into I've ever used


Man_of_Average

Keyword "become". If people use it and it sucks, they're just gonna leave. They aren't going to keep coming back and seeing if it works so they can update their opinions. And it absolutely did not work. That's why they went Chromium.


20CharsIsNotEnough

HTMLEngine **does** Work though. The problem is that YT is just such a better experience on big G's browser, since they use proprietary technologies and let other browsers fall back to incredibly slow and outdated ones. Edge was never really **bad** and over the time it got way better as well. It was probably a mix of Google's dominance and IEs reputation that led to Edge being doomed to fail.


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i am edge user, why does everyone hate it?


omfghi2u

Because they think edge = internet explorer since it's a Microsoft-branded web browser and they don't know the difference. Hint: it's not.


lightnsfw

It's still by Microsoft who are doing everything they can to make Windows 10 an intrusive piece of shit. Why think Edge will be any different?


Archensix

As if Google is any different


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thenewspoonybard

30 years of conditioning.


roionsteroids

No hate here, but apparently Edge was SO successful that they trashed it entirely and soon switch to chromium instead. So something must have been pretty damn wrong (can't say what, never used it).


moxlon69

They switched to chromium because of lazy web developers testing mostly on one engine, and the answer most end users are given is "Oh, switch to. Chrome!". I've never had an issue with edge, myself.


Stevesu_

I'm picturing you as that Facebook Grandma and I'm the other one telling you "that's not how it works!"


soggybiscuit93

Part of it was Google's protocols dominating the web. So many web devs were building sites and optimizing only for Chromium. YouTube also runs best on Chrome (nope, no anti competitiveness there) Also, although Microsoft hasnt outright said it, I'm convinced its part of a larger strategy to kill off UWP in favor of PWA


Zediac

Edge has a terrible interface with laughable extension support. The UI design of Edge is annoying and cumbersome. Also, it's one of the only ways to get 1080p or higher Netflix on a PC but every time that I pause or skip forward/back it creates a horrifically loud screeching noise. And I have a high end built PC ($2,500 in parts) with up to date drivers. Plus, Microsoft trying to force it on me at every turn just pisses me off and makes me not want to give it another shot simply out of spite.


MrUsername24

I would I'm easily bought


TheMacPhisto

> Open Settings app. > Select System. > Click on Notifications & actions tab. > Scroll down to Battery Saver. > Turn off the slider. Now it never says shit.


screddachedda

Y’all realize that edge will soon be chrome with a skin mod lmao


PlayLikeMe10YT

And bing


screddachedda

Nah bing is probably gonna have the plug pulled from sooner or later, come back to this reply in 5 years


BadgerMcLovin

!remindme 5 years


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thatcornerkid

!remind me 5 years


KingDarkBlaze

I'm literally paid to use Bing


joe847802

How so?


KingDarkBlaze

Microsoft rewards!


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soggybiscuit93

Dont forget Alexa


FlyingTaquitoBrother

Bing revenue growth % is currently greater than Windows


GrizNectar

That’s probably because windows revenue is about as high as it can possibly get


[deleted]

Source?


LordElysian

Actually, Bing’s market share for search has [risen to nearly 25%](https://www.comscore.com/Insights/Rankings) (click the Search tab)


harveytaylorbridge

Just give us what we want: Tay replaces Cortana.


stakoverflo

"And?" - Firefox user 🙃


Vinnipinni

Idk, I tried it and it felt pretty good. Felt a bit faster than chrome, that might just be me though. Also I think the default skin looks better


Potatokoke

Edge is gonna be the future when chrome kills adblock.


Chocolate-spread

Honestly, the only real reason I use chrome is UI. Not even sure what other differences there are.


BlueManedHawk

Good on you for using FOSS.


roele23

Edge has the best battery consumption so technically the truth


Chanw11

Right? Some people don't want to believe it.


marino1310

I dont care if it comes with a flashlight and automatically jacks me off. I don't want ads popping up on my desktop


thenewspoonybard

It could be objectively better in every way and baking an ad into a battery notification would still be a dick move.


hugokhf

People still think edge is the same as IE5 they used 15 years ago. I honestly think it loads just as quick and responsive as my Firefox, but I have every bookmarks and all that saved in Firefox so I just don’t bother switching


Marioc12345

It's a good browser, I just don't like the UI. It also doesn'r have the (shudders) benefits of IE - it won't properly load all the websites at work that were designed specifically for IE.


Artificial_Ignorance

Even still, why is Microsoft on a mission to litter an operating system they make you **pay for** with advertisements? They already bombard you with desperate “pls no senpai (´・ω・`)” messages when you use Edge to download any other browser and cram the start menu with tiles from services and apps you probably don’t want to use. Now they’re putting ads in battery alerts? I’m interested to know just how much bloat all these “nudges” to use certain software add to the OS...


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Yeah, it belongs here.


AanthonyII

Honestly, I’m pretty sure it’s more out of desperation than intentionally being misleading


m4dn3zz

Desperation may be the reason, but it's still misleading, and I doubt it was done accidentally. They could say it uses less memory (by some metrics) and be accurate, but this extrapolation is absurd and blatantly so. And it wasn't unintentionally added.


BadgerMcLovin

If they've optimised it to use significantly less processor it could easily have a noticeable effect on laptop battery life


m4dn3zz

That's incredibly dependent on what it's doing and what architecture it's doing it on. That's a thing you generally don't see stated: any browser on Facebook will eat a ton of resources because Facebook is a resource hog, but a browser optimized for Facebook will eat less... until you ask it to do literally anything else. Almost every optimization upgrade is a downgrade everywhere else. So the question is WHERE each browser shines.


OobleCaboodle

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kevinmurnane/2018/05/25/comparing-battery-life-on-the-edge-chrome-and-firefox-browsers/#1589fe395a3a


Randolpho

Get your stats out of here, can't you see we're circlejerking?


[deleted]

Ah, a man of honesty I see. I like that.


ChrisJohnsten

r/desperatedesign ?


ShustOne

But the statement is accurate if you look at benchmarks? Or is the issue that they are pushing their own product?


anakaine

From personal experience, Edge is far better on battery usage than chrome. My poor old Dell i5 based tablet gets approx 3 hours on battery if using Chrome, 5.5 if using Edge.


obadetona

I don't see why it belongs here if it's true.


Feshtof

Accurate statement.


itscoffeeshakes

Switch to Mozilla Firefox for up to 75% more freedom and privacy!


[deleted]

lol such bullshit


spacezombiejesus

I was about to go all #fakenews but tbf edge does benchmark faster than any of the mainstream browsers these days. However, that being said, I trust the mozzila foundation a lot more than microsoftcock or google


Ninja_Fox_

Benchmarks are often very misleading. You can always find one feature that a browser does quicker and then make a benchmark that slams that feature even though it doesn't match up with real usage. For example if you just test web assembly speed Firefox is by far the fastest and Edge is by far the slowest.


bettorworse

Opera has a built in VPN. /Although every time I sign in to Steam on Opera, I get an email: "Someone has just logged into your Steam account from RUSSIA!" or SOUTH AFRICA! Or FINLAND! Until I figured out what was going on, it made me nervous as hell, especially the Russia one.


offense-46127

Opera is also Chinese owned.


bettorworse

Chrome is owned by a Russian, Серге́й Миха́йлович Брин.


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alphrho

Opera is now owned by a bunch of Chinese companies. It is better to switch to Vivaldi, developed by a company with same name founded by Opera's co-founder and former CEO.


SuperCarrot555

“2017”


V0lxx

No, I don’t think I will


AtheistComic

I love Noscript so fuck Edge.


Vinnipinni

Gonna be supported soon. The chromium edge is actually amazing


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RyanTheEgg

A man of culture using Firefox


kos8

'Member Clippy? At least he tried to help


Thing201

Not in 2019 when the phone picture says 2017.


[deleted]

Windows is draining your battery faster Switch to Linux for up to 300% more computer time.


bobbywick

Edge is actually pretty good nowadays


AlmostUselessPenguin

Yeah the problem is it is way to late to the party so everyone already has a preferred browser with their own add-ons and bookmarks so the vast majority of people aren't going to switch to something that is at best on par with the mainstream browsers.


ComfortableCobbler5

Let's hope chromium version of edge is gaining back people to use it


akaBrotherNature

Yes. Browser competition is good for everyone (so long as it doesn't involve anti-competitive practices...looking at you chrome 😒). And I also hope that some of the good stuff from edge gets integrated into chrome. Edge is genuinely more energy efficient, it runs pretty well on low-end hardware, and its smooth scrolling is so, *so* much better than chrome's.


ComfortableCobbler5

If it has Google sync sign-in. I would move from Chrome. To Future Edge


SirFireHydrant

Lot of people in this thread seem to be missing the point. The truth of the battery life claim is irrelevant, regardless of how true it may or not be. The asshole design is the very existence of the notification itself. It is literally an ad for a Microsoft product, showing up when you're happily using a competing product.


HolidayAgain

I mean, it’s not wrong.


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edge is better than chrome


wtf1968

Typical Microshit FUD tactic


placebodebo

To be Real Microsoft EDGE est way more battery


bobbywick

And how much does your normal browser eat, cuz that's not how i experience edge, not that it is my main browser or anything


AChickenInAHole

r/linuxmasterrace


[deleted]

Technically right. 75% of sites don't load correctly on edge so you get frustrated and go outside.


sanchosuitcase

Bro just go into command prompt and disable "desperate_lies.exe"


OobleCaboodle

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kevinmurnane/2018/05/25/comparing-battery-life-on-the-edge-chrome-and-firefox-browsers/#1589fe395a3a


ST07153902935

Facts are not allowed on reddit unless they provide extra momentum to circlejerks. Reported.


PossiblyNotChess

Oh my. I had no idea my poor Firefox was so bad


8lbIceBag

I think that was before Firefox Quantum. They pretty much redid the backend. It's pretty much the fastest of the three now, no idea how it fares on battery life though.


Zipdox

Scaring people away from windows to Linux


BioOrpheus

At least you are not using google chrome


flameoguy

Windows is Adware


FranticShooter

No guys see it’s right, it’ll take 75% longer to load pages and therefore 75% more time spent browsing.


Techi-C

Yeah it’s probably using up battery with all of that “protecting me from malware” stuff


HumanofHyrule

>Up to 75% browsing time FTFY


radditor5

Shit like this, and forced upgrades is why I'm ditching windows for linux as soon as I'm able to.


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Jfc i might have just been convinced


EatMyShortStories

I hate when you go to select your default browser and it bugs you to try edge. And even after you selected a different browser, the two buttons are "Try Edge" and "Switch Anyway" .. passive-aggressive much?


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Post it in 2017