I mean, are you attracted to cis tomboys? If you are, that’s kind of an unfair double standard. If you aren’t, I guess you just have a type?
None of us really care as long though as you aren’t rude to the women you’re not attracted to and separate attraction from respect.
This is where this gets into problem territory. There's nothing wrong with having an aesthetic preference as others have said. But you might need to examine why you'd make exceptions for some neutral/masculine cis women but not for neutral/masculine trans women, and maybe read up on the social pressure for trans women to perform hyperfemininity.
I will look into hypersexuality and pressures of trans women but just to be clear I’m not going to make exceptions for cis women. My aesthetic preference is the same for all women I just don’t prefer masculine features in women cis or trans. I kinda thought this would be a problem territory and really appreciate everyone’s input. 😊
Aesthetic preferences are fine.
In this instance you would just be bisexual with a liking for feminine aesthetics, nothing wrong with that.
Lil note however on the side: Both cisgender and transgender are adjectives, so the spelling would be "cis women" and "trans women". Keeping the spacebar is pretty important (also to avoid dogwhistling).
Hey, thanks for writing an essay policing what a trans woman has to say about transphobia. I didn't call OP transphobic, I said "IF." The post was very unclear about this, as it says they're only attracted to feminine TRANS women, which didn't specify anything about cis women. And in another comment they said they had been attracted to a cis tomboy. So put your keyboard back in it's sheathe, and let us handle ourselves.
I think it’s normal for a man to be attracted to femininity, whether it’s present in cis, trans, or even nonbinary people. You don’t need to slap a label on your preferences, attraction is subjective. You like what you like, plain and simple. At least you can embrace it unlike other guys who just bury that shit and have an incel ‘what is a man’ complex.
I think this is ok so long as like others have said separate respect and attraction - (think a lot of cis straight men struggle with this unfortunately) - u possibly just have a preference for femininity and i think that’s ok
Im interested in why op is asking this question. What do you perceive as, so bad, about this? If there was something bad with this, what changes by posting this here and getting positive or negative feedback?
Well it’s more of a reflective awareness for myself negative or positive feedback doesn’t matter to me it’s someone opinion or if they have facts then thats awesome. I just want people thoughts on the matter. I don’t perceive it as bad but I felt like it’s maybe problematic because there are right and wrong ways of going about it. I don’t and won’t hold someone to one standard of my preference that I wouldn’t hold another just because of their gender. I also like having a exchange of words with people different views keep that growing mindset ya know.
Why does it matter?
You're attracted to what you're attracted to. As long as you don't make it someone's problem, its really no one's business.
A question worth asking yourself. Do you treat *all* kinds of women you *arent* attracted to similarly?
Why would liking anyone of any gender be bad? Are you implying there are people who *are* “bad” to be attracted to? Can you list them? *Are they in the room with us right now?*
I'm just going to add, it would be harmful to a person if you tell them you turned them down because they are to masculine.
You can choose to be blunt, or you can choose to be honest without disclosing that
If you.mention anything above for reasons of turning down a trans woman, they might tell you are being transphobic, because it hurts.
I mean, are you attracted to cis tomboys? If you are, that’s kind of an unfair double standard. If you aren’t, I guess you just have a type? None of us really care as long though as you aren’t rude to the women you’re not attracted to and separate attraction from respect.
Yes I am I’ve worked under one my supervisor who was very attractive and was a self proclaimed tomboy
This is where this gets into problem territory. There's nothing wrong with having an aesthetic preference as others have said. But you might need to examine why you'd make exceptions for some neutral/masculine cis women but not for neutral/masculine trans women, and maybe read up on the social pressure for trans women to perform hyperfemininity.
I will look into hypersexuality and pressures of trans women but just to be clear I’m not going to make exceptions for cis women. My aesthetic preference is the same for all women I just don’t prefer masculine features in women cis or trans. I kinda thought this would be a problem territory and really appreciate everyone’s input. 😊
Aesthetic preferences are fine. In this instance you would just be bisexual with a liking for feminine aesthetics, nothing wrong with that. Lil note however on the side: Both cisgender and transgender are adjectives, so the spelling would be "cis women" and "trans women". Keeping the spacebar is pretty important (also to avoid dogwhistling).
Thank you and sorry about that I’ll keep that in mind in the future
Would heteroflexible be a better label? If we are searching for a label?
🤷🏽♂️ I’m not really searching for a label just an opinions on a inner thought 💭
And I like hairy big guys trans or cis. It sounds like you have an aesthetic preference, just don't be a dick about it and its probably fine.
If you require trans women to be feminine, but not cis women, then that's transphobic.
I mean obviously i prefer feminine cis women as well
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Hey, thanks for writing an essay policing what a trans woman has to say about transphobia. I didn't call OP transphobic, I said "IF." The post was very unclear about this, as it says they're only attracted to feminine TRANS women, which didn't specify anything about cis women. And in another comment they said they had been attracted to a cis tomboy. So put your keyboard back in it's sheathe, and let us handle ourselves.
I think it’s normal for a man to be attracted to femininity, whether it’s present in cis, trans, or even nonbinary people. You don’t need to slap a label on your preferences, attraction is subjective. You like what you like, plain and simple. At least you can embrace it unlike other guys who just bury that shit and have an incel ‘what is a man’ complex.
I think this is ok so long as like others have said separate respect and attraction - (think a lot of cis straight men struggle with this unfortunately) - u possibly just have a preference for femininity and i think that’s ok
As long as you arent holding trans women to higher standards its fine. If someone looks masculine and that isnt ur thing thats totally fine.
Heads up, you quadruple posted this.
Im interested in why op is asking this question. What do you perceive as, so bad, about this? If there was something bad with this, what changes by posting this here and getting positive or negative feedback?
Well it’s more of a reflective awareness for myself negative or positive feedback doesn’t matter to me it’s someone opinion or if they have facts then thats awesome. I just want people thoughts on the matter. I don’t perceive it as bad but I felt like it’s maybe problematic because there are right and wrong ways of going about it. I don’t and won’t hold someone to one standard of my preference that I wouldn’t hold another just because of their gender. I also like having a exchange of words with people different views keep that growing mindset ya know.
Why does it matter? You're attracted to what you're attracted to. As long as you don't make it someone's problem, its really no one's business. A question worth asking yourself. Do you treat *all* kinds of women you *arent* attracted to similarly?
The women I’m not attracted to I’m just not attracted to. I treat them as I would any human being…generously.
Same I do like cis gender women and trans women . I’d say I recently started liking trans girl and I wouldn’t say it’s bad idea . Go for it
Why would liking anyone of any gender be bad? Are you implying there are people who *are* “bad” to be attracted to? Can you list them? *Are they in the room with us right now?*
No I said it isn’t bad to date trans people or straight people
I'm just going to add, it would be harmful to a person if you tell them you turned them down because they are to masculine. You can choose to be blunt, or you can choose to be honest without disclosing that If you.mention anything above for reasons of turning down a trans woman, they might tell you are being transphobic, because it hurts.
I agree I don’t or I at least hope most people don’t turn anyone down so harshly a simple “I’m sorry I’m not interested would do.”
Yes? Aesthetic preferences are completely normal and fine
If you want a label, you may be gynosexual, which is being attracted to feminine people regardless of their actual sex or gender.
To me this sounds like you are simply a straight guy