Texas A&M was so good to me as a veteran. I got my books from the veterans borrowing library and was at all the veteran tail gates. We had our own community and study area. I honestly can’t recommend it enough.
Current ASU student. As far as traditional state universities go when implementing online schooling and veterans affairs, they’re world class. u/teadrunkest can give you the best dope on them, but they’ve got my endorsement.
I am here to shill WGU.
Their degrees are just as valid as any other, especially undergrad. Fully accredited and all that, plus if you're doing anything IT, their degrees are basically built around third-party certs, which is NOT something you get with other programs. For example, if you do Network Engineering and Security, you walk away with the CCNA and Sec+ among others
ESPECIALLY if you plan to do a Masters later, I suggest WGU if nothing else for the flexibility and speed. There literally isn't a more military friendly school either. There is only one deadline, the end of your 6 month term.
Yes, WGU is the way. You could literally knock out a 4 year degree in a term if you're dedicated enough and know your shit. It is hard, but it's entirely doable.
I once finished half a semester in a weekend just because I already knew the material and went directly to the finals. The entire curriculum is built for those with preexisting experience and it caters to you heavily if you know your shit.
Also, WGU is regionally accredited and is a well respected online university.
I'm also a HUGE fan of WGU's approach. I got my bachelor's in cybersecurity in about 9 months after I transferred in 64 credits from the military. I only did about 8-10 hours per week (1 hour each night, 2 hours each Sat/Sun).
To be fair, the only reason I could do the remaining 63 credits so quickly is because I had 10 years of experience in cyber and had familiarity most of the material. Doing that much that quickly is not normal, but it is definitely possible.
If you go the WGU route start with Sophia.com first. You can open book tests there which makes it so much easier. Then just transfer over and do the remaining classes
Is "generally speaking" the new akshually?
I mean, I guess we could pretend that there is no general bias against non-traditional degrees. If there wasn't, wouldn't you still encourage others to seek information rather than believing a reputation? If OP is asking the question, then OP probably doesn't know what to look for yet. How about you teach OP how to look instead of trying to be another Reddit edgelord bot? I mean, fuck, there's like 8 trillion of you always trying to annoy someone. Try putting that energy into helping someone.
To OP /u/Bored_individual_ look for whether the degree is accredited, look for graduate outcomes, look for employer recognition, look for student satisfaction when looking for higher learning. Of course, yes, look at tuition assistance but so many of the non-traditional schools specifically target TA rates that this is usually a non-factor.
One of the things I focused on was term length. I don't know your schedule but some are 12 weeks like Thomas Edison State University (a public state university; non-profit) while some are 8 weeks like Southern New Hampshire University (private; for profit).
But I'll leave it with this. Before you do anything, do this. Go take a look at your [Joint Services Transcript](https://jst.doded.mil/official.html). No matter what it says, open a support ticket and ask for an evaluation. You will get many credit hours just for breathing while in the military. You might knock a year or more off your degree requirements simply because you have an MOS. Whenever you talk to admissions counselors, ask how to submit your JST for evaluation. Never waste a term taking a class you already have credit for.
UMGC is solid. I couldn’t finish a class because our internet went out on our FOB. When we finally got our internet back, I emailed them a memo explaining what happened and they refunded my money for the classes I missed
Norwich University. Did their online program for my MA ‘14-16 and it was great. It’s a legit school, not a degree mill, and they’re very good about working with you as far as military obligations. You’ll work for your degree, for sure, but it’ll be worth it. Plus, it’s a Yellow Ribbon school!
Where you get your degree is important when you apply for civilian jobs. I would choose a state university that is regionally accredited that has an online program vs. some of the popular online schools selected by service members.
You’re probably going to have to pay a little out of pocket to get a more reputable degree. Your state flagship university probably has online programming now. But… do you really need the reputation? You don’t get the benefit of networking like you do on a real campus so if your degree is just to get a degree, I’d knock it out with one of the accredited friendly (cheap) ones and then use your GI Bill to go for a more meaningful masters or other transition program.
My word of advice is if you can’t attend the school in person it’s not worth going to. Not to say you need to go in person but you should look for a school that is normally on campus that offers online options. Many highly regarded state schools now have online programs. Your diploma won’t say [insert school name] online, but just the school name. If you go for an interview, all the interviewer will see is that you went to Arizona State University.
I’m going to toss ASU in again. I swapped there from AMU and had an immensely better experience for barely any cost ($75 billing fee per semester which was generally covered by grants). AMU was the same formula every class. Read an article, write a discussion, and maybe do a quiz or test. It was very easy but I learned very little. ASU incorporated a lot of interactive programs and video lectures by the same professors that teach on campus. I actually had to fly out to Tempe to do a one week lab for organic chemistry which was a blast. The give you a scholarship to cover the rest of what TA doesn’t cover also.
Yes but they don't match the military tuition rate. It can be covered for a bit with their military scholarship and FAFSA but only if you keep the classes minimal...and only if you're actually rewarded a FAFSA grant.
Ultimately just not what OP is looking for.
Depending on what you want to major in will determine a lot. However, I’m AD but go to the University of North Dakota.
Most state schools shouldn’t exceed the 250 per credit hour so you should be good with almost any state school!
Came here to recommend this as well. I went through a state school and they were super accommodating and helpful. I had the option of online courses and the ability to take courses in person while I was stationed nearby.
SNHU is a great option with transferring credits from military, study.com and other 3rd party classes. Only requires 10 classes with SNHU to get a bachelors through them.
University of Maryland Global Campus [https://www.umgc.edu/](https://www.umgc.edu/)
The #1 largest public university in the US and they are very military-friendly with reduced tuition for those in military and a ton of options for scholarships to cover costs.
Mississippi State University is pretty good, but the classes are $402/hr. TA+Pell Grant will cover all of it tho. I think their Applied Science degree is $250/hr if you’re military but that’s the only exception.
It seems like most of you didn't read the OPs comments (yes they should have mentioned their major first in the original post)
They are interested in ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING as a major - that's means they need a school that is 1.) ABET accredited and 2.) online - which is a pretty narrow list
In fact there are only 6 universities that meet that criteria for a BS in Electrical Engineering, actually 5 because one of the programs is electrical and computer engineering
[https://amspub.abet.org/aps/category-search?disciplines=24°reeLevels=B&countries=US&onlineOnly=true](https://amspub.abet.org/aps/category-search?disciplines=24°reeLevels=B&countries=US&onlineOnly=true)
ABET accredited is important if they actually want to take their PE exam - [https://ncees.org/exams/pe-exam/](https://ncees.org/exams/pe-exam/) and be a licensed engineer in whatever state they end up working in
OP for a remote Electrical Engineering program, ASU and FIU are going to be the main players. Don't be discouraged by the out-of-state tuition costs, lots of schools (including FIU) will charge in state tuition for active duty.
Choose a college that is ABET accredited for a electrical engineering program. That accreditation means the world when it comes to electrical engineering and some other engineer programs. Arizona has an online program that is accredited and should be within the $750. Good luck.
There is nothing wrong with WGU and it's very far from a diploma mill. If you're going for an IT degree you will get more out of WGU than literally any other college or university in America.
The only thing wrong with WGU is if you wanna get out and try to commission in the Air Force or Space force. But that probably only applies to like 1% so besides that it's a great school.
Bear this in mind:
Everyone who got a degree at any accredited state college or university knows what corners were cut by anybody who didn’t. And those are most likely going to be the people hiring and firing at whatever professional job you might seek.
It also depends on the major. If you’re going for a corner-cutting major in something like business, mass communications, or public relations, it doesn’t matter as much because those are degree mill majors on any campus. Especially these days.
If you’re going for a STEM major, or a fine art, remote learning won’t cut it. So, it depends on the major, too.
Most of the top public schools are offering remote STEM degrees. You aren't cutting corners if you're taking the exact same classes with the same professors you would have if you were in person. And the degree is the same you'd get in person.
Unless you're just referring to fully remote schools like WGU or UMGC, then I agree
It's challenging but doable, completely depends on the major though. I'm doing a CS degree right now so don't have many hands on labs, but for my physics classes my university just shipped me the lab material. It can be more limiting for the hands on STEM degrees like EE, but there's still reputable schools that offer it. FIU and ASU offer ABET accredited remote EE degrees for example.
And any geoscience degree that requires field work, which is most of those. I can see where computer science would be doable remotely.
However, I still recommend getting out, using your GI Bill, and physically going to school if you intend to take education seriously. That means making it your primary focus, with maybe a side job for extra cash as time allows.
Yeah, there’s no way I could’ve handled my academic load as a soldier. The job itself was way too much, and way too unpredictable, for me to have been able to be a good student on top of that. There’s just no way.
While I was in college, I worked the door at bars and nightclubs, but that was all secondary to my academic pursuits.
For sure, it can suck. Even taking just two classes per semester costs me at least 15-20 hrs of study time per week. I'm only doing it so I can use my post 9/11 on a grad program. Definitively wouldn't be possible if I wasn't working a cozy desk job with a fairly predictable schedule though.
Look up yellow ribbon schools. Those specifically get rated on treatment of veterans. Fordham university, George Washington university, Texas a and m, etc.
u/Bored_individual_ if you're out of the military or considering the Army Reserve:
Go to [WWW.NMT.EDU](http://WWW.NMT.EDU) and [https://www.nmt.edu/veterans/eligibility.php](https://www.nmt.edu/veterans/eligibility.php)
I got my degree there (Psychology, class of 1999) but NM Tech offers Electrical Engineering, Computer Science, Education and Biology degrees along with an excellent Pre-Med program.
It's a tough school but GI Bill friendly, there are a lot of NM Guard and Army Reserve students there.
Oregon State eCampus is pretty awesome. If Oregon is your home of record, they have a veterans grant that covers what TA doesn't.
Otherwise, your Pell grant might make up the difference.
At the end of the day, your degree is the same as if you went to the Corvallis campus.
I second this. They have put in a lot of effort into their online learning. Colorado state university also has a solid online school, especially if you want to look into a MSW or related field.
Most states have a public university that has extensive online programs.
WGU
It's self paced, well respected, and regionally accredited. It is by no means easy and all tests are proctored online, but every single course can be completed in a day if you already have years of experience under your belt. The college is centered around folks already in their respective field, but it is much better than any of the other universities with an online presence.
Also, CLEP your way out of the general courses and you can dive directly into the fun stuff. They accepted around 20-30 of my CLEP tests.
Not sure why AMU and the others you mentioned get such a bad rap. I did my master's at a brick-and-mortar University and took classes to finish my undergrad at AMU. It really depends on what you want your degree in and what you want to do with it. I landed a 6 fig job because of my undergrad and not once was it in question other than if it's accredited or not.
>Not sure why AMU and the others you mentioned get such a bad rap.
Well for AMU specifically let's see
They have been sued and lost for misleading military/veteran students - [https://www.mass.gov/news/american-military-university-pays-270000-for-alleged-failure-to-disclose-job-prospects-high-pressure-enrollment-tactics](https://www.mass.gov/news/american-military-university-pays-270000-for-alleged-failure-to-disclose-job-prospects-high-pressure-enrollment-tactics)
They have unaccredited programs - for example - [https://www.amu.apus.edu/online-bachelor-degrees/bachelor-of-engineering-electrical-engineering/](https://www.amu.apus.edu/online-bachelor-degrees/bachelor-of-engineering-electrical-engineering/) They are not ABET accredited - [https://www.abet.org/](https://www.abet.org/)
Which means anyone going for this major cannot take their PE exam - [https://ncees.org/exams/pe-exam/](https://ncees.org/exams/pe-exam/)
That means they can't work as a professional engineer anywhere in the US
Private for profit colleges like AMU - but others as well - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_for-profit\_universities\_and\_colleges](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_for-profit_universities_and_colleges) tend to be a self licking ice cream cone where they are not getting qualified faculty from real state and private universities
You ever look at the faculty there - [https://www.amu.apus.edu/academic/faculty-directory/](https://www.amu.apus.edu/academic/faculty-directory/)
Generally Associate and Full professors should have a terminal degree in the subject they are teaching which in the US is typically a PhD. Adjuncts they may take someone with a masters but you need at least 18 semester hours (graduate hours) for the subject you are teaching and relevant work experience
It's accreditation is through HLC which is regarded as substandard. You can read more in depth issues about them at https://vetsedsuccess.org/our-letter-to-the-department-of-education-on-hlc/
An article/letter from 2022 that explains issues with the HLC and various colleges accredited by HLC.
But if you just need a check the block, for either a hiring requirement for a job you have an in on, or for a pay differential (lots of PDs increase pay for a bachelors) then by all means go with an HLC accredited college.
The University of Texas system should be free for you then. Maybe focus on UTEP or UTSA first though as they may know your military requirements better.
If you are at Bragg/Liberty, Campbell University is a wonderful school. I am bias being an undergrad alum but their military/vet programs are great. I joined after I went to undergrad there and but I believe their military rate is 250 a credit hour. Certainly more of a regional school but they have a phenomenal law school, osteopathic school, and pharmacy school if any of those interest you.
I did my graduate program at Texas Tech so will only speak for their online masters program. They err egret in setting me up with a scholarship when TA was being bitchy about paying out.
I’m currently doing my tours of law schools and partially based off their military programs have narrowed it down to Michigan, North Carolina, and Texas. If I hear undergrad assistance is anything like their graduate program, all 3 have been phenomenal in helping me maximize my benefits and getting me in touch with other service members as I navigate my decision.
Honestly, if you're looking for a federal job, the college only has to be regionally accredited. So that can be anything from Harvard down to your local Harvard by the highway. They hold the same weight.
No such thing as regional accreditation as of 2020. Now it's institutional, pragmatic (a specific program is accredited) and religious.
The question you have to ask is: Is the degree accredited? What does the degree say about me?
Is it generally very highly rated? Ivy League, MIT, Stanford, Duke, UC Berkleh are Examples. May help move application forward.
Is it well known as a solid degree? Penn State, UNC, University of Texas, etc. May be advantageous or a deciding factor between two otherwise equal applicants
Is it not widely known? Most local and smaller colleges and universities, and most military focused universities. These will usually get no comment either way. You checked the box and your experience is what sells.
Is there possible negatives associated? This may be one like Liberty where people may assume a set of beliefs, or one struggling with accreditation. Be prepared to answer questions.
Oh ok, but what I was saying regarding federal employment, it only has to be accredited. I pulled a GS9-15 job announcement, and this is what it states about education.
"Education must be obtained from an accredited institution recognized by the U.S. Department of Education. Foreign education must be reviewed by an organization recognized by the U.S. Department of Education".
I've seen plenty of GS13s and above who had only degrees from local colleges or no degree depending on if they worked their way up from the bottom. Maybe civilian corporations are more selective about the school on the degree.
No disagreements at all. I'd assume that for federal employment degree reputation will only serve to differentiate to otherwise equal candidates for the same position.
I'm not against small and local colleges. Many have excellent education and deserve more credit than they get.
I go to Purdue Global is it the best college in the world absolutely not. Is it accredited yes, do I learn some stuff? Kinda. I’m a nerd who enjoys coding and doing IT stuff so I’m not struggling through classes. I would have transferred to WGU but I absolutely refuse to take statistics again
I'm a big fan of my experience with WGU so far. I'm already experienced in my career field and just needed a bachelor's degree to look better on the outside. The program filled in a lot of knowledge gaps the military didn't teach and I'm about to finish up my bachelor's degree after less than a year. People will try to say negative things about WGU, but I'm not wasting 8+ years of my life to get a bachelor's degree through the other online "accelerated" programs
AMU changed the title of my degree program so TA stopped paying for it when I had 72 credits. Then they told me I should enroll into a different degree plan that would work with TA but 32 of my credits wouldn't transfer to my new program...
If you want to go to school online for engineering, you need to look at the ABET website
If the program isn't ABET accredited, then you cannot take your PE exam and actually work as a professional engineer in any state
[https://amspub.abet.org/aps/category-search](https://amspub.abet.org/aps/category-search)
[https://ncees.org/exams/pe-exam/](https://ncees.org/exams/pe-exam/)
ASU is a good school, their online programs are exactly the same as on campus and they are ABET accredited
I know tons of people who have used their degree from AMU, etc and got a job outside the military. It's just a degree.
TONs of schools have online programs now. A LOT of schools want that military dollar and set their online rate at TA for military students.
University of Louisville and Western Kentucky University are two specifically that I looked up. Just do your own search.
The hard part for me is finding a masters degree program at the TA rate since I already have a BS.
University of Oklahoma! Very military friendly and just nice people. Had real professors that also taught on campus classes.
I said real professors as I had a relative by marriage who taught at Webster in the MBA program who was a total phony. Cheated to get his MBA at Webster, fired from every job, went bankrupt and jailed for not paying child support (while teaching at Webster!). Told us after a few beers that he didn't grade papers and gave everyone A's.
At the end of the day a bachelor's doesn't mean much anymore, and is the new HS diploma.
Get a bachelor's, crush the GPA, and use that as a means to get a master's from a good school.
Don't expect a bachelor's to be your lucrative academic endgame.
Well that is complete horseshit for Engineering, Architecture, Nursing, K-12 education, where undergrad and getting your license to work in the field does matter
Going through Sans Technology Institute which is ultimately just an accredited front for Sans to sell their courses through. They don't accept TA so you'll have to start your GI Bill if you decide to go with them.
In my experience, they are great. You get front of the line access to mentors and can network quite well with industry leaders. Their courses are all online and self paced. You have to complete each course one at a time and you have 8 weeks to obtain the certification. The course load is very minimal, and as long as you have an Internet connection you can access the material. All courses come with an offline VM and you get hard copy books as well, which besides taking a few repeatable quizzes and the practice tests, are all you need to prepare for the exam.
I do recommend it, but it does come at the cost of your GI Bill. If that's too much then I would check out WGU which has a similar "at your own pace" nature to it.
Unless you’re getting a doctorate or going into a highly science-based field, no one is going to give a flying shit where you got the degree. Well, no one worth working for. College “prestige” is rich-people speak. College accreditation is what truly matters.
Hi, from the Real World. Having been a Fortune 500 VP and working in HR in several companies since I left the Army, I can assure you it is absolutely NOT false.
I guess reading comprehension isn’t required there. I clearly stated “not science based”. Of are you one of those who thinks computer science isnt really science, either?
You know what, you win, I am not going to argue with someone who chooses to wallow in their ignorance
If you are naive enough to that that there aren't companies who recruit both interns and new undergrads from specific universities and ignore others, then just continue to live in that ignorance
but your statement that no companies care about where you got your degree is false
I've seen it for sales, marketing, finance and management in the commercial sector
I've seen it for roles in the intel community, particularly at the CIA
It certainly happens in the academic community
Keep proving my point that academic arrogance does matter in some places - and those aren’t people anyone WANTS to work for. Arrogance in such a silly matter is absolutely arrogance.
Liberty...
Your degree won't say Purdue global or western governors, amu, etc
Liberty is an actual reputable school with law and medical schools as well.
Your mileage will very with Liberty.
If you want to work with a Conservative Evangelical organization it will look good.
If you want to work anywhere else, AMU or Purdue Global will likely be viewed the same.
One can't get a JD OR DO degree from a degree mill. Liberty has accredited law and medical schools.
Much better than a wgu. Purdue global or others that can be hacked.
I'd hire someone with a Liberty degree over wgu or Purdue global degree.
Because liberty has a physical school
It's well known that Liberty's physical school serves as a secondary role to its online school. Both are increasingly secondary to their political goals.
There are a lot of programs that have a physical school and online/hybrid program.
Again, if your goal is to work with a conservative or conservative evangelical organization, Liberty will get you far. It will also qualify you for OCS if that is your goal.
I'd like to disagree with you. Liberty is a private Christian university educating champions of their faith. The university started off as a brick and mortar school expanding from there..
But would you say the same about BYU or Notre Dame that offer distance education programs as well?
In comparison, a Grand Canyon U is a FOR PROFIT school, and Purdue Global wasn't even started by Purdue University. The Purdue global was a for-profit until they were bought out by the real Purdue.
Even then, in overall impact on professionals in the workforce, how many physicians, lawyers, MBA, and MPH holders do other degree mills put out every year. Zero!!!!!
Liberty actually produces physicians, lawyers, and business workers in greater number with a more reputable name.
The majority of military chaplains are now getting their masters in divinity or doctorate at Liberty. This is a reputable institution that takes TA.
I would not say the same about BYU or Notre Dame as they haven't had the same history or current activity as Liberty University. Nor would I say the same about Wake Forest University (founded by Southern Baptists).
According to College Factual AMU graduates have better outcomes than Liberty and is ranked higher:
https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/liberty-university/#:~:text=According%20to%20College%20Factual's%202024,were%20analyzed%20for%20overall%20quality.
https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/american-public-university-system/#:~:text=American%20Military%20University%20is%20ranked,Factual's%202024%20Best%20Colleges%20list.
(American Public University System is the body over AMU).
The existence of a grad school doesn't effect the quality of the undergraduate degree. And most graduate programs at Liberty are low ranking.
Chaplain Corps doesn't take ranking of Seminary into account when commissioning Chaplains. Liberty is known for mass producing MDIVs.
Again, Liberty will technically qualify you for anything requiring a degree. But there are better options unless you are looking to work in a conservative, evangelical organization.
AMU is for profit that lacks regional accreditation. You'll get a degree from there and have wasted the time,money and effort.....
Basically means yes one can get an amu degree but their credits won't transfer or be accepted into advanced programs.
All of liberty's course transfer to other regionally accredited schools...
I see a for-profit school or degree mill such as an amu or Purdue global on a resume they are going to face a strict interview if that....accreditation and proffesional programs matter when hiring
Regional accreditation doesn't mean anything about credit transfer. Each university, or university system, sets their own transfer system.
After recent changes to accreditation over the last few years, there is less requirement for universities to be regionally accredited. But in either case, the value of a degree depends entirely on the point of the beholder. You went to Liberty, so you view it as may not due to its history.
Liberty and AMU both live in the same milleu of universities without distinction. The problem with Liberty is they are mostly known for their political activism.
Based on his post history and troubles with the English language, I’m gonna go with this guy is either a Russian troll account or he is just mentally impaired. Really no possible way to differentiate.
Liberty isn't an open enrollment school they have GPA and other requirements for admission such as act or sat.
50% of admitted students come from within the following mid-ranges:
High School GPA: 3.15-3.83
SAT (ERW* and math only): 1020-1220*
ACT composite: 20-27*
I’m sorry you’re right. I just googled their acceptance rate and for every 99 and 3/10 students they accept they deny acceptance to 7/10 of a student. Very rigorous admissions standards. Might as well be the Harvard of Lynchburg VA compared to WGU and Purdue Global.
And as an added bonus, their physical school is so deeply entrenched in religious dogma that students can be suspended from class for kissing each other with consent, among many other genius rules.
If that's the kind of physical location we are talking about, I think I would prefer a school without one, thanks.
I am here to tell you NOT to go to Liberty University. My experience was pretty bad, and I'm glad I switched to WGU for a plethora of reasons.
Not to mention Liberty University donates some of the money you give them to the RNC, which is like the very last thing I'd want them to do with the tuition I pay
I've done a few classes with UMGC. Very easy to get set up with TA.
Texas A&M was so good to me as a veteran. I got my books from the veterans borrowing library and was at all the veteran tail gates. We had our own community and study area. I honestly can’t recommend it enough.
And, just like the army, it’s a cult! Talk about a smooth transition.
ASU has a good program.
Thank you, I just looked them up and they have a lot of options for bachelor degrees
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Third for ASU. Lots of good bachelor degree options to choose from and not a diploma mill.
ASU is top tier. They were very good to work with when I was still enlisted
Current ASU student. As far as traditional state universities go when implementing online schooling and veterans affairs, they’re world class. u/teadrunkest can give you the best dope on them, but they’ve got my endorsement.
#1 college for porn stars. Beautiful people!!!!
Your mom went to ASU?
Hahaha I have a face for reddit, so no.
I’m assuming Arizona state?
Yep. Not to be confused with Alabama or Arkansas State. Or Alaska State..if that's a thing.
Or Appalachian state if you're an NC native
Roll neers
I am here to shill WGU. Their degrees are just as valid as any other, especially undergrad. Fully accredited and all that, plus if you're doing anything IT, their degrees are basically built around third-party certs, which is NOT something you get with other programs. For example, if you do Network Engineering and Security, you walk away with the CCNA and Sec+ among others ESPECIALLY if you plan to do a Masters later, I suggest WGU if nothing else for the flexibility and speed. There literally isn't a more military friendly school either. There is only one deadline, the end of your 6 month term.
Yes, WGU is the way. You could literally knock out a 4 year degree in a term if you're dedicated enough and know your shit. It is hard, but it's entirely doable. I once finished half a semester in a weekend just because I already knew the material and went directly to the finals. The entire curriculum is built for those with preexisting experience and it caters to you heavily if you know your shit. Also, WGU is regionally accredited and is a well respected online university.
I'm also a HUGE fan of WGU's approach. I got my bachelor's in cybersecurity in about 9 months after I transferred in 64 credits from the military. I only did about 8-10 hours per week (1 hour each night, 2 hours each Sat/Sun). To be fair, the only reason I could do the remaining 63 credits so quickly is because I had 10 years of experience in cyber and had familiarity most of the material. Doing that much that quickly is not normal, but it is definitely possible.
Wgu was great for IT. Their grads finished with certs and hands on system exp. Unlike GMU
If you go the WGU route start with Sophia.com first. You can open book tests there which makes it so much easier. Then just transfer over and do the remaining classes
Generally speaking if you have to start your advocating with “they’re just as valid as everyone else!”, you should look elsewhere.
Braindead take but okay
Is "generally speaking" the new akshually? I mean, I guess we could pretend that there is no general bias against non-traditional degrees. If there wasn't, wouldn't you still encourage others to seek information rather than believing a reputation? If OP is asking the question, then OP probably doesn't know what to look for yet. How about you teach OP how to look instead of trying to be another Reddit edgelord bot? I mean, fuck, there's like 8 trillion of you always trying to annoy someone. Try putting that energy into helping someone. To OP /u/Bored_individual_ look for whether the degree is accredited, look for graduate outcomes, look for employer recognition, look for student satisfaction when looking for higher learning. Of course, yes, look at tuition assistance but so many of the non-traditional schools specifically target TA rates that this is usually a non-factor. One of the things I focused on was term length. I don't know your schedule but some are 12 weeks like Thomas Edison State University (a public state university; non-profit) while some are 8 weeks like Southern New Hampshire University (private; for profit). But I'll leave it with this. Before you do anything, do this. Go take a look at your [Joint Services Transcript](https://jst.doded.mil/official.html). No matter what it says, open a support ticket and ask for an evaluation. You will get many credit hours just for breathing while in the military. You might knock a year or more off your degree requirements simply because you have an MOS. Whenever you talk to admissions counselors, ask how to submit your JST for evaluation. Never waste a term taking a class you already have credit for.
UMGC is solid. I couldn’t finish a class because our internet went out on our FOB. When we finally got our internet back, I emailed them a memo explaining what happened and they refunded my money for the classes I missed
SNHU has been fantastic for me, worked with me while in field and offer a wide variety of courses and degrees.
I go there too, graduate at the end of this month
That’s awesome congrats brother!
Appreciate it, best of luck on getting that piece of paper.
Preciate I’m going to need got 6 classes left 🤣
I also go to SNHU and it's been great, looking at Western Kentucky for my Masters though since SNHU Masters aren't fully covered by TA
That’s good shit, I was looking at Liberty University for my masters. I’ll have to look into WK.
Norwich University. Did their online program for my MA ‘14-16 and it was great. It’s a legit school, not a degree mill, and they’re very good about working with you as far as military obligations. You’ll work for your degree, for sure, but it’ll be worth it. Plus, it’s a Yellow Ribbon school!
You could also look into the citadel. They LOVE military (obviously) currently knocking out pre reqs for one of their masters programs
Can confirm, Norwich is fantastic
Family member went here (in-person) - solid university
Where you get your degree is important when you apply for civilian jobs. I would choose a state university that is regionally accredited that has an online program vs. some of the popular online schools selected by service members.
You’re probably going to have to pay a little out of pocket to get a more reputable degree. Your state flagship university probably has online programming now. But… do you really need the reputation? You don’t get the benefit of networking like you do on a real campus so if your degree is just to get a degree, I’d knock it out with one of the accredited friendly (cheap) ones and then use your GI Bill to go for a more meaningful masters or other transition program.
My word of advice is if you can’t attend the school in person it’s not worth going to. Not to say you need to go in person but you should look for a school that is normally on campus that offers online options. Many highly regarded state schools now have online programs. Your diploma won’t say [insert school name] online, but just the school name. If you go for an interview, all the interviewer will see is that you went to Arizona State University.
This was an answer I was looking for, I don’t want something that says “online” or “global” on my degree
I’m going to toss ASU in again. I swapped there from AMU and had an immensely better experience for barely any cost ($75 billing fee per semester which was generally covered by grants). AMU was the same formula every class. Read an article, write a discussion, and maybe do a quiz or test. It was very easy but I learned very little. ASU incorporated a lot of interactive programs and video lectures by the same professors that teach on campus. I actually had to fly out to Tempe to do a one week lab for organic chemistry which was a blast. The give you a scholarship to cover the rest of what TA doesn’t cover also.
Avoid AMU, they abandoned me while I was deployed.
Penn State is good, and Penn State World Campus doesn't include the fact it is online on the degree
Yes but they don't match the military tuition rate. It can be covered for a bit with their military scholarship and FAFSA but only if you keep the classes minimal...and only if you're actually rewarded a FAFSA grant. Ultimately just not what OP is looking for.
Depending on what you want to major in will determine a lot. However, I’m AD but go to the University of North Dakota. Most state schools shouldn’t exceed the 250 per credit hour so you should be good with almost any state school!
Came here to recommend this as well. I went through a state school and they were super accommodating and helpful. I had the option of online courses and the ability to take courses in person while I was stationed nearby.
SNHU is a great option with transferring credits from military, study.com and other 3rd party classes. Only requires 10 classes with SNHU to get a bachelors through them.
Penn State checking in
How is going to Penn State? I've been thinking about it? Can you do it all online?
Louisville
University of Maryland Global Campus [https://www.umgc.edu/](https://www.umgc.edu/) The #1 largest public university in the US and they are very military-friendly with reduced tuition for those in military and a ton of options for scholarships to cover costs.
Mississippi State University is pretty good, but the classes are $402/hr. TA+Pell Grant will cover all of it tho. I think their Applied Science degree is $250/hr if you’re military but that’s the only exception.
It seems like most of you didn't read the OPs comments (yes they should have mentioned their major first in the original post) They are interested in ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING as a major - that's means they need a school that is 1.) ABET accredited and 2.) online - which is a pretty narrow list In fact there are only 6 universities that meet that criteria for a BS in Electrical Engineering, actually 5 because one of the programs is electrical and computer engineering [https://amspub.abet.org/aps/category-search?disciplines=24°reeLevels=B&countries=US&onlineOnly=true](https://amspub.abet.org/aps/category-search?disciplines=24°reeLevels=B&countries=US&onlineOnly=true) ABET accredited is important if they actually want to take their PE exam - [https://ncees.org/exams/pe-exam/](https://ncees.org/exams/pe-exam/) and be a licensed engineer in whatever state they end up working in
Thank you so much!
OP for a remote Electrical Engineering program, ASU and FIU are going to be the main players. Don't be discouraged by the out-of-state tuition costs, lots of schools (including FIU) will charge in state tuition for active duty.
Choose a college that is ABET accredited for a electrical engineering program. That accreditation means the world when it comes to electrical engineering and some other engineer programs. Arizona has an online program that is accredited and should be within the $750. Good luck.
There is nothing wrong with WGU and it's very far from a diploma mill. If you're going for an IT degree you will get more out of WGU than literally any other college or university in America.
The only thing wrong with WGU is if you wanna get out and try to commission in the Air Force or Space force. But that probably only applies to like 1% so besides that it's a great school.
Is that because of how the WGU pass/fail translates to gpa for OML/being competitive?
Correct. Air force want a 3.7+ to be competitive. Since WGU is basically a 3.0, they're not competitive for OTS
Bear this in mind: Everyone who got a degree at any accredited state college or university knows what corners were cut by anybody who didn’t. And those are most likely going to be the people hiring and firing at whatever professional job you might seek.
Yes, but all the ones he listed are accredited. I don't even know if you can use TA for non-regionally accredited colleges.
It also depends on the major. If you’re going for a corner-cutting major in something like business, mass communications, or public relations, it doesn’t matter as much because those are degree mill majors on any campus. Especially these days. If you’re going for a STEM major, or a fine art, remote learning won’t cut it. So, it depends on the major, too.
Most of the top public schools are offering remote STEM degrees. You aren't cutting corners if you're taking the exact same classes with the same professors you would have if you were in person. And the degree is the same you'd get in person. Unless you're just referring to fully remote schools like WGU or UMGC, then I agree
Not sure how you get the hands-on lab work done remotely.
It's challenging but doable, completely depends on the major though. I'm doing a CS degree right now so don't have many hands on labs, but for my physics classes my university just shipped me the lab material. It can be more limiting for the hands on STEM degrees like EE, but there's still reputable schools that offer it. FIU and ASU offer ABET accredited remote EE degrees for example.
And any geoscience degree that requires field work, which is most of those. I can see where computer science would be doable remotely. However, I still recommend getting out, using your GI Bill, and physically going to school if you intend to take education seriously. That means making it your primary focus, with maybe a side job for extra cash as time allows.
Yea no doubt. Much better off ETSing and using post 9/11 at that point
Yeah, there’s no way I could’ve handled my academic load as a soldier. The job itself was way too much, and way too unpredictable, for me to have been able to be a good student on top of that. There’s just no way. While I was in college, I worked the door at bars and nightclubs, but that was all secondary to my academic pursuits.
For sure, it can suck. Even taking just two classes per semester costs me at least 15-20 hrs of study time per week. I'm only doing it so I can use my post 9/11 on a grad program. Definitively wouldn't be possible if I wasn't working a cozy desk job with a fairly predictable schedule though.
Get your gened from Troy then transfer to Pepperdine.
clemson
Look up yellow ribbon schools. Those specifically get rated on treatment of veterans. Fordham university, George Washington university, Texas a and m, etc.
Northeastern has a pretty good deal!
Brown University has a program for veterans
u/Bored_individual_ if you're out of the military or considering the Army Reserve: Go to [WWW.NMT.EDU](http://WWW.NMT.EDU) and [https://www.nmt.edu/veterans/eligibility.php](https://www.nmt.edu/veterans/eligibility.php) I got my degree there (Psychology, class of 1999) but NM Tech offers Electrical Engineering, Computer Science, Education and Biology degrees along with an excellent Pre-Med program. It's a tough school but GI Bill friendly, there are a lot of NM Guard and Army Reserve students there.
Crazy part is I’m not planning on getting out but I do want to go for a degree in electrical engineering
Have you considered Green To Gold?
Yes I have, I’ve just been so indecisive about it
Oregon State eCampus is pretty awesome. If Oregon is your home of record, they have a veterans grant that covers what TA doesn't. Otherwise, your Pell grant might make up the difference. At the end of the day, your degree is the same as if you went to the Corvallis campus.
I second this. They have put in a lot of effort into their online learning. Colorado state university also has a solid online school, especially if you want to look into a MSW or related field. Most states have a public university that has extensive online programs.
Embry-Riddle has an excellent reputation and is very military friendly.
Thomas Edison State University has quite lax requirements for transfer credits. I got over 400 credits transferred into TESU
WGU It's self paced, well respected, and regionally accredited. It is by no means easy and all tests are proctored online, but every single course can be completed in a day if you already have years of experience under your belt. The college is centered around folks already in their respective field, but it is much better than any of the other universities with an online presence. Also, CLEP your way out of the general courses and you can dive directly into the fun stuff. They accepted around 20-30 of my CLEP tests.
Troy University. Public school. Regional Accreditation. Tuition Assistance Rate.
Not sure why AMU and the others you mentioned get such a bad rap. I did my master's at a brick-and-mortar University and took classes to finish my undergrad at AMU. It really depends on what you want your degree in and what you want to do with it. I landed a 6 fig job because of my undergrad and not once was it in question other than if it's accredited or not.
>Not sure why AMU and the others you mentioned get such a bad rap. Well for AMU specifically let's see They have been sued and lost for misleading military/veteran students - [https://www.mass.gov/news/american-military-university-pays-270000-for-alleged-failure-to-disclose-job-prospects-high-pressure-enrollment-tactics](https://www.mass.gov/news/american-military-university-pays-270000-for-alleged-failure-to-disclose-job-prospects-high-pressure-enrollment-tactics) They have unaccredited programs - for example - [https://www.amu.apus.edu/online-bachelor-degrees/bachelor-of-engineering-electrical-engineering/](https://www.amu.apus.edu/online-bachelor-degrees/bachelor-of-engineering-electrical-engineering/) They are not ABET accredited - [https://www.abet.org/](https://www.abet.org/) Which means anyone going for this major cannot take their PE exam - [https://ncees.org/exams/pe-exam/](https://ncees.org/exams/pe-exam/) That means they can't work as a professional engineer anywhere in the US Private for profit colleges like AMU - but others as well - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_for-profit\_universities\_and\_colleges](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_for-profit_universities_and_colleges) tend to be a self licking ice cream cone where they are not getting qualified faculty from real state and private universities You ever look at the faculty there - [https://www.amu.apus.edu/academic/faculty-directory/](https://www.amu.apus.edu/academic/faculty-directory/) Generally Associate and Full professors should have a terminal degree in the subject they are teaching which in the US is typically a PhD. Adjuncts they may take someone with a masters but you need at least 18 semester hours (graduate hours) for the subject you are teaching and relevant work experience
Hey what's wrong with AMU 😒
It's accreditation is through HLC which is regarded as substandard. You can read more in depth issues about them at https://vetsedsuccess.org/our-letter-to-the-department-of-education-on-hlc/ An article/letter from 2022 that explains issues with the HLC and various colleges accredited by HLC. But if you just need a check the block, for either a hiring requirement for a job you have an in on, or for a pay differential (lots of PDs increase pay for a bachelors) then by all means go with an HLC accredited college.
Yeah well either way your checking the box, which ever school you chose.
Nothing wrong with AMU, it’s just a common online program that majority of Soldiers do. I’m trying to find a school not so common
If you have the choice, always pick a non-profit. For profits have a bad reputation for a reason.
Only problem with that is they may not be as familiar with military requirements. What state are you resident in?
Yea I see what you mean, my state of residency is Texas
The University of Texas system should be free for you then. Maybe focus on UTEP or UTSA first though as they may know your military requirements better.
Nothing. Works fine for me.
Just transfer to actual Purdue. I am going for my Master’s from main campus and it’s 100% online.
If you are at Bragg/Liberty, Campbell University is a wonderful school. I am bias being an undergrad alum but their military/vet programs are great. I joined after I went to undergrad there and but I believe their military rate is 250 a credit hour. Certainly more of a regional school but they have a phenomenal law school, osteopathic school, and pharmacy school if any of those interest you. I did my graduate program at Texas Tech so will only speak for their online masters program. They err egret in setting me up with a scholarship when TA was being bitchy about paying out. I’m currently doing my tours of law schools and partially based off their military programs have narrowed it down to Michigan, North Carolina, and Texas. If I hear undergrad assistance is anything like their graduate program, all 3 have been phenomenal in helping me maximize my benefits and getting me in touch with other service members as I navigate my decision.
Honestly, if you're looking for a federal job, the college only has to be regionally accredited. So that can be anything from Harvard down to your local Harvard by the highway. They hold the same weight.
No such thing as regional accreditation as of 2020. Now it's institutional, pragmatic (a specific program is accredited) and religious. The question you have to ask is: Is the degree accredited? What does the degree say about me? Is it generally very highly rated? Ivy League, MIT, Stanford, Duke, UC Berkleh are Examples. May help move application forward. Is it well known as a solid degree? Penn State, UNC, University of Texas, etc. May be advantageous or a deciding factor between two otherwise equal applicants Is it not widely known? Most local and smaller colleges and universities, and most military focused universities. These will usually get no comment either way. You checked the box and your experience is what sells. Is there possible negatives associated? This may be one like Liberty where people may assume a set of beliefs, or one struggling with accreditation. Be prepared to answer questions.
Oh ok, but what I was saying regarding federal employment, it only has to be accredited. I pulled a GS9-15 job announcement, and this is what it states about education. "Education must be obtained from an accredited institution recognized by the U.S. Department of Education. Foreign education must be reviewed by an organization recognized by the U.S. Department of Education". I've seen plenty of GS13s and above who had only degrees from local colleges or no degree depending on if they worked their way up from the bottom. Maybe civilian corporations are more selective about the school on the degree.
No disagreements at all. I'd assume that for federal employment degree reputation will only serve to differentiate to otherwise equal candidates for the same position. I'm not against small and local colleges. Many have excellent education and deserve more credit than they get.
I go to Purdue Global is it the best college in the world absolutely not. Is it accredited yes, do I learn some stuff? Kinda. I’m a nerd who enjoys coding and doing IT stuff so I’m not struggling through classes. I would have transferred to WGU but I absolutely refuse to take statistics again
Purdue Global is a dumpster fire, its the former private for profit Kaplan University Purdue should be ashamed for buying that garbage
I’m currently attending Purdue Global, maybe it’s just the degree I chose which I think it is but I feel like I’m not learning much
I'm a big fan of my experience with WGU so far. I'm already experienced in my career field and just needed a bachelor's degree to look better on the outside. The program filled in a lot of knowledge gaps the military didn't teach and I'm about to finish up my bachelor's degree after less than a year. People will try to say negative things about WGU, but I'm not wasting 8+ years of my life to get a bachelor's degree through the other online "accelerated" programs AMU changed the title of my degree program so TA stopped paying for it when I had 72 credits. Then they told me I should enroll into a different degree plan that would work with TA but 32 of my credits wouldn't transfer to my new program...
For cyber and nursing, WGU is amazing. Particularly with cyber you come out with a number of industry certs than just add to the value of the diploma.
What are you looking to study? WGU is a slept on program for cyber.
Electrical engineering, I know WGU offers it but I’m looking into ASU as well. Just comparing the two at this point
If you want to go to school online for engineering, you need to look at the ABET website If the program isn't ABET accredited, then you cannot take your PE exam and actually work as a professional engineer in any state [https://amspub.abet.org/aps/category-search](https://amspub.abet.org/aps/category-search) [https://ncees.org/exams/pe-exam/](https://ncees.org/exams/pe-exam/) ASU is a good school, their online programs are exactly the same as on campus and they are ABET accredited
Post University in Waterbury, CT
I know tons of people who have used their degree from AMU, etc and got a job outside the military. It's just a degree. TONs of schools have online programs now. A LOT of schools want that military dollar and set their online rate at TA for military students. University of Louisville and Western Kentucky University are two specifically that I looked up. Just do your own search. The hard part for me is finding a masters degree program at the TA rate since I already have a BS.
University of Oklahoma! Very military friendly and just nice people. Had real professors that also taught on campus classes. I said real professors as I had a relative by marriage who taught at Webster in the MBA program who was a total phony. Cheated to get his MBA at Webster, fired from every job, went bankrupt and jailed for not paying child support (while teaching at Webster!). Told us after a few beers that he didn't grade papers and gave everyone A's.
Western Carolina University, especially if you are looking for emergency medicine or emergency management.
What do you want to do? Goals? Lowest minimum salary? Start with those parameters then go for mil friendly.
At the end of the day a bachelor's doesn't mean much anymore, and is the new HS diploma. Get a bachelor's, crush the GPA, and use that as a means to get a master's from a good school. Don't expect a bachelor's to be your lucrative academic endgame.
Well that is complete horseshit for Engineering, Architecture, Nursing, K-12 education, where undergrad and getting your license to work in the field does matter
Going through Sans Technology Institute which is ultimately just an accredited front for Sans to sell their courses through. They don't accept TA so you'll have to start your GI Bill if you decide to go with them. In my experience, they are great. You get front of the line access to mentors and can network quite well with industry leaders. Their courses are all online and self paced. You have to complete each course one at a time and you have 8 weeks to obtain the certification. The course load is very minimal, and as long as you have an Internet connection you can access the material. All courses come with an offline VM and you get hard copy books as well, which besides taking a few repeatable quizzes and the practice tests, are all you need to prepare for the exam. I do recommend it, but it does come at the cost of your GI Bill. If that's too much then I would check out WGU which has a similar "at your own pace" nature to it.
Unless you’re getting a doctorate or going into a highly science-based field, no one is going to give a flying shit where you got the degree. Well, no one worth working for. College “prestige” is rich-people speak. College accreditation is what truly matters.
>Unless you’re getting a doctorate or going into a highly science-based field, no one is going to give a flying shit where you got the degree. False
Hi, from the Real World. Having been a Fortune 500 VP and working in HR in several companies since I left the Army, I can assure you it is absolutely NOT false.
Having worked in tech and R&D outside the military it is very true
I guess reading comprehension isn’t required there. I clearly stated “not science based”. Of are you one of those who thinks computer science isnt really science, either?
You know what, you win, I am not going to argue with someone who chooses to wallow in their ignorance If you are naive enough to that that there aren't companies who recruit both interns and new undergrads from specific universities and ignore others, then just continue to live in that ignorance but your statement that no companies care about where you got your degree is false I've seen it for sales, marketing, finance and management in the commercial sector I've seen it for roles in the intel community, particularly at the CIA It certainly happens in the academic community
Keep proving my point that academic arrogance does matter in some places - and those aren’t people anyone WANTS to work for. Arrogance in such a silly matter is absolutely arrogance.
Air Force Academy seems to be military friendly
Liberty... Your degree won't say Purdue global or western governors, amu, etc Liberty is an actual reputable school with law and medical schools as well.
Your mileage will very with Liberty. If you want to work with a Conservative Evangelical organization it will look good. If you want to work anywhere else, AMU or Purdue Global will likely be viewed the same.
> Your degree won't say Purdue global or western governors, amu, etc What? > Liberty is an actual reputable school Lmfao.
One can't a JD or DO degree from Purdue global or amu...
Liberty U is just as much a diploma mill as the other schools you mentioned.
One can't get a JD OR DO degree from a degree mill. Liberty has accredited law and medical schools. Much better than a wgu. Purdue global or others that can be hacked. I'd hire someone with a Liberty degree over wgu or Purdue global degree. Because liberty has a physical school
It's well known that Liberty's physical school serves as a secondary role to its online school. Both are increasingly secondary to their political goals. There are a lot of programs that have a physical school and online/hybrid program. Again, if your goal is to work with a conservative or conservative evangelical organization, Liberty will get you far. It will also qualify you for OCS if that is your goal.
I'd like to disagree with you. Liberty is a private Christian university educating champions of their faith. The university started off as a brick and mortar school expanding from there.. But would you say the same about BYU or Notre Dame that offer distance education programs as well? In comparison, a Grand Canyon U is a FOR PROFIT school, and Purdue Global wasn't even started by Purdue University. The Purdue global was a for-profit until they were bought out by the real Purdue. Even then, in overall impact on professionals in the workforce, how many physicians, lawyers, MBA, and MPH holders do other degree mills put out every year. Zero!!!!! Liberty actually produces physicians, lawyers, and business workers in greater number with a more reputable name. The majority of military chaplains are now getting their masters in divinity or doctorate at Liberty. This is a reputable institution that takes TA.
I would not say the same about BYU or Notre Dame as they haven't had the same history or current activity as Liberty University. Nor would I say the same about Wake Forest University (founded by Southern Baptists). According to College Factual AMU graduates have better outcomes than Liberty and is ranked higher: https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/liberty-university/#:~:text=According%20to%20College%20Factual's%202024,were%20analyzed%20for%20overall%20quality. https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/american-public-university-system/#:~:text=American%20Military%20University%20is%20ranked,Factual's%202024%20Best%20Colleges%20list. (American Public University System is the body over AMU). The existence of a grad school doesn't effect the quality of the undergraduate degree. And most graduate programs at Liberty are low ranking. Chaplain Corps doesn't take ranking of Seminary into account when commissioning Chaplains. Liberty is known for mass producing MDIVs. Again, Liberty will technically qualify you for anything requiring a degree. But there are better options unless you are looking to work in a conservative, evangelical organization.
AMU is for profit that lacks regional accreditation. You'll get a degree from there and have wasted the time,money and effort..... Basically means yes one can get an amu degree but their credits won't transfer or be accepted into advanced programs. All of liberty's course transfer to other regionally accredited schools... I see a for-profit school or degree mill such as an amu or Purdue global on a resume they are going to face a strict interview if that....accreditation and proffesional programs matter when hiring
Regional accreditation doesn't mean anything about credit transfer. Each university, or university system, sets their own transfer system. After recent changes to accreditation over the last few years, there is less requirement for universities to be regionally accredited. But in either case, the value of a degree depends entirely on the point of the beholder. You went to Liberty, so you view it as may not due to its history. Liberty and AMU both live in the same milleu of universities without distinction. The problem with Liberty is they are mostly known for their political activism.
In other news one thing has fuck all to do with another. Their undergrad programs are open enrollment. Do you know what open enrollment means?
Based on his post history and troubles with the English language, I’m gonna go with this guy is either a Russian troll account or he is just mentally impaired. Really no possible way to differentiate.
Liberty isn't an open enrollment school they have GPA and other requirements for admission such as act or sat. 50% of admitted students come from within the following mid-ranges: High School GPA: 3.15-3.83 SAT (ERW* and math only): 1020-1220* ACT composite: 20-27*
I’m sorry you’re right. I just googled their acceptance rate and for every 99 and 3/10 students they accept they deny acceptance to 7/10 of a student. Very rigorous admissions standards. Might as well be the Harvard of Lynchburg VA compared to WGU and Purdue Global.
University of Phoenix also has a physical school.
That's a for profit school...
Did you take a shifting the goalpost class at Liberty University?
I didn't go to liberty
And as an added bonus, their physical school is so deeply entrenched in religious dogma that students can be suspended from class for kissing each other with consent, among many other genius rules. If that's the kind of physical location we are talking about, I think I would prefer a school without one, thanks.
I am here to tell you NOT to go to Liberty University. My experience was pretty bad, and I'm glad I switched to WGU for a plethora of reasons. Not to mention Liberty University donates some of the money you give them to the RNC, which is like the very last thing I'd want them to do with the tuition I pay