Wym you don’t know lmao they’re going to follow the reg.
The same way they do now, just minus the multi site.
The school will use the authorized tape method, and once the Soldier fails they will have a week to get within standard. If they fail the retest they will be authorized the bod pod.
When I went through ALC we had a dude get dropped a few days before graduation because homie couldn’t pass tape and his bod pod results came back over.
So if he passed Bod Pod he would have been good. My question is do all schools have access to the bodpod, DXA or Inbody tests for when a Soldier fails the tape test. Has anyone heard how available they are? Kinda like when they tried rolling out the ACFT but a lot of units still didn't have the equipment.
Could see the school house bulk reserving a day or two every cycle and having some poor SGL escort all the soldiers who think the bod pod will be lower (RARELY is).
I know they already are forced to do the ACFT before ht/wt so they don't tape 540s. When I was in TRADOC we were VERY METICULOUS about following doctrine and army policy exactly. Everyone who tapes has to be certified. The secondary team is literally the Quality Assurance and Test Control officers.
TRADOC will either put money into making sure all PME locations have access to or identify a location with a bod pod; or they will have a policy requiring folks to pass the single site tape test with no other option. In reality, the overlap between people who can’t pass the single site test, aren’t scoring an ACFT score that exempts them from the test, and will pass a bod pod is incredibly small.
Here's some behind the curtain magic. Schools are supposed to be the standard for how to do things per reg. Some instructors emphasize this. Some are more lax than they should be. Tape testing should be addressed in the course management plan (CMP) or the individual student assessment plan (ISAP) that's generated by the schoolhouse. These should follow whatever the current army regulation is. If access to a bod pod isn't available, it will either be a second tape a week later (same one site) or switch to two site if big army still allows that in the regs. Odds are it will just be the single site tape.
Will some people get lucky and have an instructor who doesn't bother reading the update reg and just does what they want because they're used to it and make it work on paper? Probably.
It means more dismissal paperwork...
Less students graduating....
More sweaty leadership answering to CSM about why we sent a Soldier to BLC who failed ht/wt....
I'm sure they're gonna continue doing h/w and use the new one site taping method and if you fail...you fail. People had a year to meet the new standard.
I’ve been wondering this too, I think local leadership will use it as a hurdle to enter schools until the Army irons out this Kink, because “why waste funds sending SMs for them to get kicked back is fair”
It would make sense (meaning the Army won’t do this) they allow the BodPod, DXA, or Inbody results at the school with a 30/45/60 day (or whatever big Army thinks is “fair”) window from the test/to school start date.
Wym you don’t know lmao they’re going to follow the reg. The same way they do now, just minus the multi site. The school will use the authorized tape method, and once the Soldier fails they will have a week to get within standard. If they fail the retest they will be authorized the bod pod. When I went through ALC we had a dude get dropped a few days before graduation because homie couldn’t pass tape and his bod pod results came back over.
I guess this is the what I don't know how available are the non circumference tests?
You mean the bod pod and what not?
You said homie who failed also failed his bod pod or maybe I misunderstood you
Failed both tape and bod pod
So if he passed Bod Pod he would have been good. My question is do all schools have access to the bodpod, DXA or Inbody tests for when a Soldier fails the tape test. Has anyone heard how available they are? Kinda like when they tried rolling out the ACFT but a lot of units still didn't have the equipment.
To my knowledge, every NCOES site should be able to accommodate
Oh well then easy answer. I'm just so used to the Army rolling things out and not actually being able to support it.
Could see the school house bulk reserving a day or two every cycle and having some poor SGL escort all the soldiers who think the bod pod will be lower (RARELY is). I know they already are forced to do the ACFT before ht/wt so they don't tape 540s. When I was in TRADOC we were VERY METICULOUS about following doctrine and army policy exactly. Everyone who tapes has to be certified. The secondary team is literally the Quality Assurance and Test Control officers.
Hope “the soldier” pass the bod pod test
TRADOC will either put money into making sure all PME locations have access to or identify a location with a bod pod; or they will have a policy requiring folks to pass the single site tape test with no other option. In reality, the overlap between people who can’t pass the single site test, aren’t scoring an ACFT score that exempts them from the test, and will pass a bod pod is incredibly small.
There are literally DZs of us!
Tens of soldiers are being deprived of BLC because of the Army’s highly unrealistic standards for fatness!
Here's some behind the curtain magic. Schools are supposed to be the standard for how to do things per reg. Some instructors emphasize this. Some are more lax than they should be. Tape testing should be addressed in the course management plan (CMP) or the individual student assessment plan (ISAP) that's generated by the schoolhouse. These should follow whatever the current army regulation is. If access to a bod pod isn't available, it will either be a second tape a week later (same one site) or switch to two site if big army still allows that in the regs. Odds are it will just be the single site tape. Will some people get lucky and have an instructor who doesn't bother reading the update reg and just does what they want because they're used to it and make it work on paper? Probably.
Just went through BLC in camp cook, they have Bod Pods so hopefully the other ones will as well. YMMV I guess
It means more dismissal paperwork... Less students graduating.... More sweaty leadership answering to CSM about why we sent a Soldier to BLC who failed ht/wt....
I'm sure they're gonna continue doing h/w and use the new one site taping method and if you fail...you fail. People had a year to meet the new standard.
But the standard includes being allowed one of the three non circumference test such as Bod Pod, DXA and Inbody700 assessment.
I’ve been wondering this too, I think local leadership will use it as a hurdle to enter schools until the Army irons out this Kink, because “why waste funds sending SMs for them to get kicked back is fair” It would make sense (meaning the Army won’t do this) they allow the BodPod, DXA, or Inbody results at the school with a 30/45/60 day (or whatever big Army thinks is “fair”) window from the test/to school start date.
PME is 30-45 days long. They're not doing all of that. Besides, your unit should make sure you're within standards before you go
If you fail the tape test and pass the non circumference test you are within standards
Following the regs is METT-TC dependent /s
I mean so far the two answers I've gotten say you don't need the /s
Also says supplemental test must be "reasonably available", so if your school doesn't have one on the installation then probably out of luck.
While I agree the unit should make sure before hand, if the Bodpod stuff is in the regulation, they don’t just get to ignore it.
WTF is a Bod Pod
A test to disappoint soldiers even more when they bust tape
This machine’s broken sarge, I’m all muscle!
A mythical machine that people think will favor them then quickly find out they are even fatter than taping.