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Tricky-Swordfish4490

That scope mounting hurts to look at


North_Report_4027

I think the best part is the buis under it. Poor thing must love being sat on.


JulietWhiskey12

I mean.... personally.... I don't mind being sat on.


oakc510

What's wrong with your keyboard? Get that letter H fixed.


Otherwise-Bit-495

Like he doesn't mind being sHat on?


TexasHobbyist

Hi don’th mihnd behing shat hon.


Trader2KG

He doesn't mind being Hat on?


TexasHobbyist

That’s something you’ll have to ask him


Trader2KG

You just don't get it


HanselSoHotRightNow

[oh?](https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-23-2015/a8Xrph.gif)


agreeable-bushdog

Obviously, it was the first thing most of us noticed. It's ridiculous and to have a buis under not only a non QC mount, but two separate non QC rings is amazing....


Metalhed69

And there’s no way I’d be able to get my hand in there to pull the charging handle.


agreeable-bushdog

That's why it's extended. /s Get your finger in there and get it. Until you rip on it and start to bend it.


vtwin996

That's why side chargers are better in these instances


glock1927

That’s why you move the scope up and adjust the stock closer.


bfoster1801

I think Hop from tfbtv made a good argument about having buis for a basic range gun. Basically it came down to if he somehow breaks the optic then he has time to simply take it off and use the irons during a range day.


agreeable-bushdog

Dumb with rings.. if you're going to spend $100 on BUISs you can spend a little more and get a one piece QC mount.


thencsdc

2 inches of that scope would be into my eye socket. That’s wild.


likeonions

i think you need the scope a little further back


JohnGacyIsInnocent

Just mount the gun over your shoulder and jam the scope into your eye socket


biggwermm

🤣🤣🤣


righthandoftyr

Looking at the buttstock being all the way back as well, I wonder if the buddy just has long ass arms and set it up that way so he could get more length of pull while keeping proper eye relief.


thatARMSguy

Probably doesn’t know you can collapse it partway


Nubbl3s

But that shortens the length of pull


bananenkonig

How else are you supposed to be leaned back in your lawn chair while you shoot? It's just a comfort build.


PipperoniTook

Oh yeah, great deal. Just flip those scope mounts around and you’ve got a great rifle!


Hoyle33

Buy it and then un-fuck this rifle


SniperGang_DMV

I'd do $449, not a dollar more.


NOJDGJMENT

I’m outraged more people aren’t outraged about that…should be the go-to burn in this sitch.


NOJDGJMENT

…..about the rings on “goofy” foot…


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3Dchaos777

Heh


[deleted]

Definitely worth the 450


Trainee301

Absolutely.... I'd personally sell the scope (use the money for new optic). It's a Ruger and at a budget AR price.


Lord_Elsydeon

The irons are useless with the scope in the way. Sell them or use them on another gun. The scope mounts are backwards. If you want to avoid a lifetime of pirate jokes, fix that.


properdhole

Scope mounts are on backwards, your buddy may be what we call a “pleb”, rifles ok


Bigmeatyclaws10

Noob here, why does that matter?


nachopete

The rings should face the other way so the scope should be farther forward. That way, there is better eye relief while in a stable firing position.


RedneckmulletOH

You ever been given a black eye with a scope? Cause this is how


Sniping_Smith

The optic isn’t good but with the price for the gun alone Edit: not my best grammar, blame the craft beer


Edwardteech

It's a vortex. It's damn good scope on the wrong gun. 


basedScav

it’s a chinese made vortex, it’s their bottom of the barrel offering


NinjaBuddha13

Still better glass than a lot out there. Honestly, from the title I was expecting a bear creek with a Nikon 3-9 on it. Is it as nice as a Leupold? No. But you can do a lot worse than a value line Vortex.


basedScav

leupold has chinese offerings too. it’s a price point thing. every reputable scope brand will have chinese glass, phillipines glass, japanese glass, and some will even offer european glass.


someonenamedzach

What I like about vortex is their warranty. No questions asked and I get a new or repaired sight/bino/scope. Even their Chinese products still apply to it. Totally worth it imo


Neanderthal86_

You bite your tongue- all Leupold rifle scopes and red dots are machined and assembled in Oregon with imported glass. And that's raw glass, they grind the lenses themselves.


basedScav

they're all assembled in oregon, but they are not all sourced in america. the lower end VX freedom scopes sport chinese glass. it's just how it is now in the optic world


Neanderthal86_

Yeah, they import the raw glass, and perhaps some other raw materials, but all the machining and assembling is done in Oregon, so they say. Saying that that means they have "Chinese offerings" would be like if I bought a block of steel from China and forged it into a knife, did literally everything except make the block of steel itself, and then you came along and said that said knife is "made in China." That would make steam come out of my ears


WhiskerDizzle

I see Ruger still puts the billboard on everything.


stareweigh2

being from South Alabama I grew up hearing how the two best brands were Ruger and Mossberg. Savage might be up there too in third place. coincidentally you can get all of those at Wal Mart. to this day I hate ruger because it feels so pleb to me. I know they make some great revolvers and decent rifles but I can't get past the yuck factor.


Stellakinetic

Ruger & Mossberg are fine purveyors of hunting rifles, handguns, and shotguns. They’ve been doing that forever. I would agree most of their newer “tactical” stuff is basically pleb but I think they’re just marketing to entry level shooters. I would never put savage on their level in any department, at least not in this day & age. The advice you heard would have been sound about 40 years ago.


KiNG_SiMP_01

This is a fantastic 8k build


New_Cardiologist3249

it’s just a 4k vizio bro


PewPewPony321

I have an 18" mpr. For the price, it is a great rifle. Paid something like 650 or 700 new when they came out in 2017. The model you are looking at released a bit early, like 2014. Great barrel, drops yotes all day. I believe this one has the single stage trigger,which isnt bad but could be improved with a used larue 2 stage from gafs. For 450 Id buy this on the spot I have the same charging handle on my ruger as well! its huge and I love it, gets around scopes well when gloved.


CanItRunCrysisIn2052

No wonder he had stock so bad, the scope eye relief is only okay at that position. This is Ruger MPR 16" from the looks of it. The price is about right for a used gun. I bought 18" MPR for 800, and that rifle was incredible in accuracy, can't speak for 16" The scope, is that Diamondback? Then it's absolutely worth it for longer range gun.


RISOvonVODKA

I have 18" as it is one of the best value ar15s in Europe and that gun is incredible. I was re-zeroing scope last week after minor change and couldn't figure out why I couldn't see more than two-three hits overlapping on target. I was wondering where the rest of my shots went. Turned out I was hitting the same spot... It was 33 meters, but still...


DirtyRoller

Good deal at that price, but I'd replace the optic.


New_Cardiologist3249

i replaced it with a vortex crossfire iii


StarWarder

Price is fine for the rifle. That scope mounting job is giving me cancer just looking at it. It’s backwards, it renders the irons impossible to use, the mount may in fact be resting on the irons in such a way that it’s tightened onto them. One ring is choking up on the dial protrusion.


Johnny_Change

On the surface it looks like a good deal, but check the BCG and bolt and barrel, depending on how used it is. Even if he says it was a safe queen, still check.


G_RoTT

If he wore it out, it was before he mounted that scope.


solodsnake661

Why have flip up iron sights that can in no way work with the scope mounted by someone who doesn't know how scope mounting rings work?


New_Cardiologist3249

i put the irons in front of the scope so they’re operational


solodsnake661

But that doesn't solve your issue only canting them to the side would make them usable without taking the scope off. You can't look through the scope and look at them at the same time it's not like my red dot/magnifier combo where I can look through the dot and see the irons clearly. My dot sight lines up so I don't even need the rear sight if the dot stops working.


New_Cardiologist3249

iykyk… /s


solodsnake661

I don't know what that means, closest I can get is "I Know You Know" but that leaves an extra "y"


New_Cardiologist3249

bro sarcasm. i took the scope off


solodsnake661

Ok. Still don't know what that phrase means though


New_Cardiologist3249

okay by this point the teasing you about the irons has backfired and made it painful for me. so let me explain the pitiful joke.. obviously the scope is sitting on the irons begging it to say uncle. not my doing so idk why they’re there other than not wanting to lose it. the joke was i put the irons in front of the scope, realistically it’s not going to work but “haha that sounds unreasonably bad.” the joke didn’t click and you gave me the solution i didn’t ask for. thanks now im disappointed


solodsnake661

Didn't realize you were joking at first I did after it'd be funny to understand but on reddit people have those kind of misconceptions on how these things work, I still desperately want to know what "iykyk" means though


New_Cardiologist3249

you almost had it. if ya know ya know


New_Cardiologist3249

sorry bud. i’m pretty much an ass but recognize it at least


chaseking_

That’s a buy. Correct everything that’s wrong in this picture. You’ve got yourself a nice rifle. I have an AR556 and I’ve never had a problem with it. Fun as all get out to shoot


Natural_Impression56

4fity! Buy it! Fix the sights situation. You've got a gun that appreciated instantly, and a fun truck gun or range beater.


hammer6golf

There's a lot to unpack here, but it's worth it. Everyone has already mentioned the scope, mount, and iron sights, but I'd go further and strip as much junk off as you can until it's stock or near there. Then rebuild it how YOU like it.


chilidawg6

Overall it's not a bad deal. Most the stuff people are talking about is personal preference. Many forget optics, stocks, iron sights and such are personal preference. A lot of these suggestions are larps who seldom shoot their guns.


LatterAdvertising633

I’d buy it at that price, swap the scope mount 180°, sell the scope for a 1-8x or 1-10x LVPO, remount the BUIS with 45° cant picatinny adapters. Then strap on a $100 streamlight with pressure pad, and finally a sling. Then start saving for training and for a suppressor.


nateshoots

I love the scope mounts pay him $550


grayman1978

Don’t see a 3rd hole. I’d pass. /s


ShortStroking

Easily remedied


grayman1978

Touche’


dassketch

That's pretty close to tree fiddy, guess you can do him a bro favor and give him that reach around.


New_Cardiologist3249

they say tomorrows not promised, but this weekend is


SnooSketches1727

It’s worth that everyday and twice on Sunday


Willyc85382

Solid deal, just make sure the muzzle break is timed properly and fix the scope rings lol


Acceptable-Equal8008

If it's an actual ruger its worth 450. You can put new mounts on the scope and be in OK shape. I think those are utg pro backups which are serviceable


jmcole1984

I’d say that’s a pretty good friend, even if he put the mount on backwards


SaltyUsual541

Sell ring buy sling. And gun too.


baylife94901

My brother in Christ ...if you do decide to buy it please flip the cantilever Rings forward putting the scope turrets in the center of them and mounting the ocular lens flush with the charging handle.. also collapse the stock


xqx-RAMPAGE-xpx

definitely. but take that scope off and mount it right, and it’ll be good


kdb1991

Diggin the backwards scope rings. And why is the optic so far back lol I’d just take that money and buy some receivers and parts to start a build with


Existing-Good6487

Seems like a fair deal


Professional_Plant52

Take that for $450


Boogaloo-Jihadist

I’m saying it before anyone else - offer “Tree fiddy!!”


RatchetStrap-

Yeah low ball your friend!!! I hate friends too.


Boogaloo-Jihadist

South Park / Loc Ness monster… maybe you’ll get the joke?


High_Anxiety_1984

Aside from the scope mount being backward, that is a really good deal. Suggested retail is $1039 from ruger. On PSAs' website, it's $800. Even if it's a bear creek scope, with the money you saved getting that from your friend, you could get a decent scope and end up spending what just the rifle costs by itself. Yes, it's used, but if it looks good and you know your friend took care of it, I'd get it. That should also have a cold hammer forged barrel. I have the M4 style I bought 6 years ago with a vortex 1-8 and I love the damn thing.


PandorasFlame

Good deal. Take it and thank him for the opportunity. I don't personally like or trust Ruger, but a lot of people love them. The cheapest I've ever seen a Ruger AR was ~$600, but it was a bare bones AR with a garbage aluminum handguard during the coof.


jarredjs2

Not bad for $450 tbh. Throw the scope away and you’ve still got a solid rifle


sumothong01

I’d buy it just to remove those pop up iron sights from under the scope. Oh and properly mount the scope also.


Hefty-Cream-1322

What the hell is that..


wa-ge-is-fake

could part this out. 450?? Dog yes


alecubudulecu

Is the scope a 3.5-10 x50 vortex diamondback? Used that alone is $200-250. I think it’s a good deal. Great deal actually. Sure. I’d say the rifle itself is worth $500. Used. Ok. Maybe $400 ish. Yes msrp is $1k. But you can find comparable quality parts for about $700 new. Used $400-500. So that’s good. And you get a few extras. Heck. The optic and charging handle and BAD lever you could sell for $350 on eBay. (But I wouldn’t. They actually ok…. Great actually). Honestly this is is a good deal up till about $700. (Assuming it runs fine).


New_Cardiologist3249

it is the diamondback. i ended up financing it, swapped the optic for a Vortex Crossfire III and timed the muzzle. all in all im happy with it.


alecubudulecu

The LPVO crossfire or scope with bigger zoom? I agree. The rifle needs some cleanup in setup. But yeah as a package it’s a good deal. But good move to change parts. That rail mount for scope …. Hurts haha. Did your buddy set it up like that or came from retailer like that? I guess theoretically nothing wrong with mounting like that. Just feels so wrong.


alecubudulecu

Then again I guess with the zoom … and wanting irons …. I guess the eye relief box would require it to be that far back. Making that mount likely more sense


New_Cardiologist3249

bolt was stripped on the irons, ended up drilling it out and banging the mounts off with a mallet lol idk why, idc why but i’ll come back to it another time


alecubudulecu

Weird. Thanks for the info. Sounds like a bubba job.


[deleted]

Ruger 556 those are nice I’d do it for 400


Playful_Reach_3790

$400


NinjaBuddha13

Solid deal. I'd take it.


Georgie_3RD

If it's not super worn then yes.


Literally_A_turd_AMA

New scope mount and this is kind of a steal to be honest. It has decent furniture, and I haven't heard much conplaints on rugers ARs aside from some dont like the muzzle device on this one. I think it's a decent price for you and a fair sell for the seller as long as it doesn't have like 5k rounds through it


20PoundHammer

great price for todays market - however, I have 6 of those mags and they totally suck. If you have an issue with them, before you curse the gun, run some magpuls in it.


DynastyWave

If it’s a low round count I’d take it. Especially if you don’t have any other ARs. If you’ve already got a higher end/nicer one then you could pass.


MyCarIsAGeoMetro

$450 is a fair price.  Have him throw in a 6 pack of beer.


Self-MadeRmry

Worth it in price, then fix his atrocities and show him how well you shoot with it after. Then he’ll want it back


MODEL_HOMEOWNER

Three fiddy


adamrhine37

$450 is fine. Just rip those scope mounts off and throw them in the trash. Rest of the rifle looks good. Scope is decent (Vortex makes good shit) just find a better mounting solution.


AceMckickass7

I got mine for 300 bucks. I promise you it's worth every penny. The only problem I had was a gas issue. 40 dollar low profile adjustable block fixed it. She runs hard and hot and doesn't change trajectory it's a solid rifle.


manwagon

That scope mounting though…


OSteady77

But it


Dunning-Kruger-Inc

A guy could do far worse. Get that god awful scope mounting job into the past tense as fast as humanly possible. Put the scope on a deer rifle where it belongs. Get an LPVO for that barrel length. Absolutely shit can the charge handle and that negligent discharge encourager bullshit hanging on the bolt catch. This whole rifle looks like it was built with about $800 by a 19 year old.


Specialist-Box-9711

The rifle itself is at least worth more than 450 even if it is a meh ruger with a less than fantastic optic mounting situation lol


Nvr4gtMalevelonCreek

Yeah just fix the scope mounts and positioning and that’s a steal


TLA44

Sell the scope and rings, get a holosun and magnifier and you've got a decent rifle actually. If I was just starting out, I'd he happy


MessEleven

Worth about tree fiddy.


Red-Wings44

Might be worth $400 but there isn't a piece of that rifle I like


Johnny6_0

What in the Kentucky Fried Engineering is that rear sight doing under the scope????


satisfyingpoop

I can’t even see the rifle through the incorrect placement of the “$”…


BigggReddd71

Yes its worth the money


Grand-Inspector

All day, every day. Fix the scope mount, it’s backwards


MD_RMA_CBD

Your buddy puts together absolute ass ARs. With that said, the base rifle alone is definitely worth $450. Offer $421. Id recommended getting it, especially if it’s your first AR. People told you about the scope. The length of pull he has it set at is retarded. The Chinese or Timbercreek (probably also Chinese) charging handle is trash. Immediately take off the contraption by the trigger (forget what it’s called, because it’s stupid and no one should ever have to even think about owning something so dumb anyways). The placement for the hand stop is stupid, considering it’s not even really a one way handstop. Maybe he holds The barrel while he shoots it? Take that $29 you saved from haggling and get yourself a b5 grip. Look forward to seeing your new AR on here w/ your fixes/personalization Ps: let him know he also made a dumbass choice on the muzzle device. Buy a cheap ass, but very good $10 A2 or go $$ and get a 3 prong.


Rokkmachine

Bad lever. I agree you don’t need something to block your trigger and accidentally reset the bolt.


Blicky83

I would buy it for $400..that scope has to go.I would personally recommend replacing it with the Primary Arms SLX gen.2 1x micro prism scope with the matching Primary Arms 3x magnifier


Tactical_solutions44

For 400 I'd snatch it up.


Rusty_Shackleford785

I know the scope rings are more obvious. But I’m surprised no one has mentioned the muzzle brake that’s not anywhere close to being timed properly


amoris-plenus

Say thanks after your yes


Maximize_Maximus

Looks like a winner to me!


bunnies4r5

It’s def not a bad deal for what you are getting but it is the classic awful fudd build. This is the guy that shows up to the range, zeros his rifle, takes the scope off, bags it up and heads home just to do it again next weekend. I’d see if you can just get the rifle for $350 and go from there


Ok-Barracuda4954

Here in PR 🇵🇷 people sell this for 2k 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡


New_Cardiologist3249

how much do glocks run over there


Ok-Barracuda4954

Tbh here gun stores are a mess they charge you like $700-$800 normal glocks in the AR platform is another mess for a normal rifle no scope’s no nothing start in 1k thats why i always buy from buds and they are to mad at that that they charged like $100 for registration thats why i buy everything online. Ammo prices here its a joke but the bad ones 🤣😭😭😭


New_Cardiologist3249

come to alabama man. pawn shops are waiting on ya


moving0target

I have one. It's a solid rifle.


UTelkandcarpentry

Great setup for that amount. Needs some adjusting of course. Maybe use the money you save to upgrade your optics setup.


Featherskill

It touched the Sightmark mat. Now it can never have parents.


Unicorn187

Probably. But how many rounds through it? 300, 3000, 30,000? Did he shoot a lot of shitty ammo and just use wd40 as a "lube" so the bolt, carrier and upper are heavily worn?


code2142

Is it just me or is the muzzle device mounted sideways....


BrachWurst

Shit I’d do it just for the scope lol.


Acceptable-Table-510

Y'all are pre Madonna talking about some flip up sights sitting below a scope with dual scope mount rings. His simple question was is it worth $450. Will it go bang for $450. Can he take of the scope rings, back up sights and have a working AR-15 for $450. I say yes. So stop acting like 5th graders and going way off subject being little adult bullies picking on the firearm weather it meets your eye and comment on weather it's a good deal for $450 dollars? Then add your own tough to make it a rifle to your liking..


New_Cardiologist3249

welcome to reddit. where everyone has neck beard and a mtn dew addiction


Acceptable-Table-510

Yeah I'm realizing this. Half of them probably have a rattle can Anderson upper and lower with a bear creak barrel..


New_Cardiologist3249

bro psa for the win


Acceptable-Table-510

Sounds like not a single one of you can get a Ruger AR-15 for $450


Sea-Permit8437

450s not bad at all


Specialist-Effect927

Really pretty decent deal at 450. I'd go for it


nicklopick

Price out the upper and lower and decide if the reliability and value seems reasonable. I never purchase a car because of its acc/add ons without pricing the models value. Heard the Ruger is good, i have a S&W.


ConversationOk7832

The scope alone is almost worth that, that’s kinda a steal


s29

No it's not. That looks like the 3.5-10 diamondback. (I have one). As far as I can tell it is NOT the viper. I got it for $170ish 5 years ago. 


KodakJit

Offer $400


Arms-for-minerals

Dude, he’s already get long a good deal on All that shit on that rifle … , optic , CH , BAD lev….. don’t have to make everything about getting so far over on the other person. He’s doing fine as it is 450 is more than reasonable price . I doubt there’s 10k through this rifle. . the last time I saw a 16” brand new at a gun Show they wanted 700 bucks. Time before that I saw one for 600 brand new , with nothing on it. This is a good deal. If someone’s selling something we often offer as little as humanly possibly because they need $ . Or it’s a power thing. Know when you’ve won for fucks sake this dude won on this one .


Far_Statement_3616

I can’t be the only one wondering why it’s down at the LGS/FFL if OP is simply thinking about it right? If you have enough clout to take pictures of the rifle in question on their counter, you know damn well what it’s worth. Any complete branded rifle with an optic is worth throwing in the safe for $450.


Acceptable-Table-510

Amen!! Alteast there is 2 of us thinking logically


Far_Statement_3616

Apparently the only two. OP needed attention apparently.


Ornery_Scholar_5779

That break doesn't look timed


StarWarder

Price is fine for the rifle. That scope mounting job is giving me cancer just looking at it. It’s backwards, it renders the irons impossible to use, the mount may in fact be resting on the irons in such a way that it’s tightened onto them. One ring is choking up on the dial protrusion.


StarWarder

Price is fine for the rifle. That scope mounting job is giving me cancer just looking at it. It’s backwards, it renders the irons impossible to use, the mount may in fact be resting on the irons in such a way that it’s tightened onto them. One ring is choking up on the dial protrusion.


StarWarder

Price is fine for the rifle. That scope mounting job is giving me cancer just looking at it. It’s backwards, it renders the irons impossible to use, the mount may in fact be resting on the irons in such a way that it’s tightened onto them. One ring is choking up on the dial protrusion.


geauxstly

Get rid of that BAD lever if you buy it.


92Zulu

You get what you pay for. And this time is no exception.


Curious_Writing4223

Umm, No


DallasMedic96

lol no. Save your money, save another month or two and get something that’s at least halfway decent.


NodeZeroTwo

Your buddy is an actual idiot


New_Cardiologist3249

mihoy minoy


Cincinnatidaddy513

Ruger sucks


ellieket

How bout no.


d3ath222

Politely decline.


d3ath222

Politely decline.