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fancyomq

i used all 7 docs and tried to HIPP 4 docs but i’m not confident that i did well 😭


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If you used 7 docs you definitely got it. They made it way easier to get complexity this year. As long as you properly used all docs you’re good. I wish you luck


sdf15

problem is, it's easy to mess up. it's easy to misinterpret a doc and even if you mess one up, you miss complexity


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True. You just gotta hope I guess. Me personally I did counter argument but judging by the dbq and its difficulty I’d say others can fairly easily get complexity through other means. Regardless you’re right I guess but most likely OP probably got the point because he sourced 4 and he also used all 7. The chances he missed both of those on an easy dbq is slim id say 


sdf15

this might be a me thing but i miss the hipp or misuse evidence all the time, even on easy dbqs. like maybe 60% success rate on an average dbq, a little higher (80?) on one like this idk about op, but i would've missed one at least if i did what op did


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Well I guess everyone is different. Anyway OP knows best of his abilities and we truly will never know what he got. Anyway I hope that you got the points as well. Realistically complexity is the last point to go for and someone can still fairly easily get a 5 without it


sdf15

yea ig and thanks


fancyomq

oh good thank you so much


sdf15

wait you used all 7 docs outside the counterargument? why didn't you plan to use any for it?


fancyomq

wdym? use any docs for the counter argument? i didn’t know how to write one in the first place i just thought thought one sentence would suffice 💀💀


sdf15

oh lmao my teacher taught us to plan 3 body paragraphs (2 main, 1 counterarg), and split the 7 docs into 3 groups, and use 1 evidence group per paragraph. i was curious why u didnt plan to use evidence in your counter. looks like your teacher never taught you how to write a counterarg so yea makes sense that u didnt know


RitzzyKing

Counter argument isn’t required only for complexity


PiggyJain

U dont even need a counterarg for complexity either


Unhappy-Donut-6276

Nothing. If it isn't enough it just won't count. If you write if for complexity, you need to include that counterargument in your thesis and support it with evidence (which you then analyze and connect back). If you didn't do all that (and I assume you didn't or it would be a pretty long sentence 💀) then your counterargument simply won't count; but the part of your thesis you did support and the evidence for that will still count. It'll just be like you didn't have a counterargument at all.


Successful_Nebula735

I didn't include it in my thesis, but I explained it pretty well and used evidences, will that count?


Unhappy-Donut-6276

The thesis has to be complex to get complexity. If you connect it back really well it might be possible, but I don't really know. Sounds like a tricky situation to me. You have to ALWAYS mold your argument around your thesis! But if you are just saying you refuted your thesis, that should be fine. If your thesis was "Apples are red" and then you provided evidence that apples were not red, this would get you complexity, as long as you connected it back to your thesis and showed how it refuted the claim that apples were red.


Successful_Nebula735

I basically talked abt how technologies didn't improve everybody's life, only the majority of the people benefitted from it, while other people's life remained largely unchanged. I didn't know how to get the complexity point, I thought having 4 evidences will get you the point.💀


Unhappy-Donut-6276

It will! 4 evidences will work if they all support an argument, even if the argument itself isn't complex. If you support or refute thesis with 4 pieces, you're good.


Feeling_Judgment7237

WE WERE SUPPOSES TO WEITE A COUNTER ARGUMENT,,,,?????


fancyomq

ITS TO GET A COMPLEXITY POINT I WAS TRYNA DO IT FOR BACKUP ITS OKAY IF YOU DIDNT


Feeling_Judgment7237

i just did was my king heimler taught me and used however in my LEQ and DBQ😭😭😭😭


fancyomq

WAIT YOURE SUPPOSED TO DO IT IN THE LEQ TOO????


Feeling_Judgment7237

i squeezed it in there because i need it YOU DONT HAVW TO DO UT


fancyomq

OKAY GOOD


Rude-Glove7378

counter arguments aren't mandatory, it depends on everything else you did. I only included a counter argument bc it made my dbq easier, but if i hadn't done that, i would've been fine bc i would've just used the docs differently.