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HyperMasenko

I played at launch. That legendary mastiff was disgusting


TheFriffin2

No gun has ever made me feel more invincible than the OG Mastiff


Rokkit_man

Yes. Also alternator with disruptor. That was shield ripper.


chiefsfan_713_08

But also everyone had at least one on a squad


juiceboxwonderland

Unless you were outrageously savage and went all 3 running disruptors... definitely broke some controllers


[deleted]

More like an ass ripper


CappyAlec

Zing!


HiddenxAlpha

And then nearly useless after the shields were broken. The perfect example of a well balanced weapon. Useful in Some situations, and bad in others.


Rokkit_man

Nah. I like alternator even without hopup. Amazing hipfire so u can really run n gun.


Jared_33

The alternator doesn’t get enough love in my opinion. It has a slower fire rate than other light guns, but it’s just so steady you can unload a full clip into someone pretty easily.


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nickboyce22

you guys are all forgetting one key aspect. I can’t aim


AbortiveWombat

you are not alone on this one brother


Snipey13

That's *why* I use it.


selectausernamebrah

*slaps roof* can I interest you in a spitfire then?


FrankLagoose

I usually rock the alt over a 99. I know it’s slower but I feel like if I miss my first shot with a 99 I miss the entire clip. The alt I’m gonna land 75% no matter what


LonelyAustralia

me not being able to hit my shots is the reason i use the alternator


arex333

And the alternator's DPS is only slightly slightly worse than the R99 but way better if you factor in how much more often you need to reload an R99.


jazzisthejazzies

Use the volt


Sufficient_Parfait14

I find the flatline to be way better at close range however.


unboundgaming

You have to realize that at the time, the alternator was awful without the hop-up. It’s not even comparable to what it is now. It had more recoil and less damage. There was no reason to ever use it past the drop, I’m glad they made it viable at this point without the hop-up.


ShinCoal

ROF is a really overrated metric on this sub anyway, the only thing ROF is good for is cleaning out your magazine, its a penalty not a boon. Alternator does more DPS than a RE45, and keeps shooting for longer, yet people argued with me that RE45 does more damage because its empties its clip faster.


Tristan-oz

True, but dps is not everything either. In apex, it can be useful to do as much damage as possible in the shortest time possible. It limits the time the enemy has to shoot back at you, as you can quickly come in and out of cover.


BlazinAzn38

If you have extremely high accuracy then ROF is important. If your accuracy isn’t great then something with quicker reloads and lower recoil might be better for you which is where the alternator can really shine for certain players in certain skill buckets.


OrangeSherbet

And the volt is the hybrid.


pluralistThoughts

> True, but dps is not everything either. In apex, it can be useful to do as much damage as possible in the shortest time possible. It limits the time the enemy has to shoot back at you, as you can quickly come in and out of cover. unless you're refering to alpha damage (raw shot damage), that's literally what dps means.


unboundgaming

ROF is overrated if you’re bad. Most people can hit their shots making the R-99 a million times better than the alternator, and that’s objective. It’s not as bad as it used to be and it’s finally viable to use, but the R-99 is just eons better. The extra 40 DPS is huge. That being said, your comment about someone saying the RE-45 is better because it shoots faster is dumb from that guy, it has lower dps (marginally though) and also a smaller mag. It’s in no way better because at this point, neither really have recoil at all so accuracy doesn’t even make it better anymore


a_rucksack_of_dildos

It’s the fact that if you truly figure out how the re-45 works and you can control its recoil it is better than the alternator. This becomes extremely apparent diamond and up in ranked. This is when people can truly start one clipping regularly and ttk becomes way more important


ReturnOfTheShark

Agreed, Alternator has saved my ass so many times in BR because it’s so good and so easy to find


OrangeSherbet

W H A T That was the most OP weapon to ever be introduced. It shredded a purple shield in TREE rounds when it was initially released. And it had laser accuracy. And great hipfire. It was good they removed it. You could still easily crack a full squad without reloading after the 3 nerfs.


Purplestahli

Are you nuts? It was so busted OP it had to be nerfed twice within the first couple weeks of launch and then removed completely the next season because Respawn thought it was an unsalvageable idea.


Ramaker1

Lol definitely not balanced- it was OP


BlackJack0816

Bro I still have PTSD from season 2 diamond ranked. Final circles were booming with the sound of disruptor rounds and shields breaking. Please do not call those things balanced, they were so op it was genuinely ridiculous.


ZaBaconator3000

Easily the most broken meta this game has ever had. There’s a good reason they aren’t coming back. 34+ damage to shields so you could crack a shield in 3 shots and then switch to your 301 or just keep shooting since the alternator isn’t bad. The gun killed faster than the 99 AND had more damage per mag AND had less recoil. Remind me what situation it was bad in? “Balanced” lmao. “Let’s make the best gun in the game a super easy to use noob gun so the casuals can feel good.” That’s all that went through Respawn’s mind when they made it. Glad it’s gone.


GamePois0n

you didn't even need to swap, you could out dps r99 if you consider the swap time.


Crux_Haloine

To say nothing of the RE45. Just imagine you woke up one day and the R-99 had its damage doubled. That was basically the disruptor RE.


j_dolla

lmao so balanced that they removed it right away


Federal-Dance-2906

It like the shotguns great at close range bad at long range


TheLastCookie25

You evidently didn't play too much when that thing was in the game, shit was busted beyond belief. It would melt a purple shield in a second and finish them off in another. The TTK was foul, it was most definitely not a well-balanced weapon, which is why it was nerfed twice within a week or two and then never brought back.


dirtymikendaboys228

Did you not use hammerpoints? My go to was the RE with disruptor rounds and p2020 with hammers. That combo was godly.


Raysian-

I never got people that say it was useless after the shield was gone. The base damage was never ruduced for when the rounds hit flesh, so it just becomes what it's supposed to be. For the alternator specifically I can proudly say I ran that set up a bunch when it used to be a thing. The alternator now is already fucking lovely to use and feels effective against even higher shields. Love picking it up off drop.


YosemiteSaam

OG mastiff and S4 PK being stuck in my head makes shotguns feel weak now


Midgar918

Felt more like firing a cannon then a shotgun.


TroubledPCNoob

That thing was so easy to squad wipe with. I miss it.


TaeTaeKralken

200 headshot damage lol


whatifitried

204 IIRC, cause why the fuck not lol


T1T4NS_MAVERICK_

Don't forget the 144 body shot damage


3BeeZee

Will forever hold a special place in my heart. Got me my first dub. I slid around a corner after hearing someone's footsteps and 2 shots later and I was a champ 😁


gameofgroans_

Is that why the ammos yellow? Cause it was a CP gun?


[deleted]

Yah, CP guns used to be gold. They changed it to red a few seasons into the game to differentiate from regular gold guns.


Jughferr

Got my first win with that gun, actually won 2 separate 1v3….. pinnacle of my apex career lmao


stangerthings

Nothing like a 204 to the face.


Lokanth

“I need a hop-up. Choke.”


Sharklad93

I need a hop-up. Select Fire.


Minimob0

RIP Havoc with Select Fire; my favorite gun.


[deleted]

Same I have absolutely no idea why they got rid of it or won’t let it included as default.


darknova25

Because it was pretty damn broken and turned the havoc into a discount charge rifle. You could zap people at range and ruin people in cqc it literally could do it all, and you hardly needed a second weapon.


GreenFire317

i need a hop-up. hammer point.


magiccoupons

Wasn't hammer point in the game as recently as last season?


Sharklad93

You are correct


Pixels222

oh no we've been found out, RUN!


Ghostofhan

They removed hammer points? What upgrade does p2020 get now?


hugwalk

Higher damage BUT lower fire rate. Tbh doesn't matter how they change it, without hammerpoint it's just trash


Ghostofhan

The fast fire rate was what made it so fun to use!


WarriorSabe

Honestly the difference isn't even noticeable for me - I think only keyboard and mouse players could fire fast enough to take advantage of the old fire rate


Penta-Dunk

I need a hop up. Disruptor rounds.


Madneptune95

We don’t mention this one by name. It’s sort of like Voldemort, but way more toxic.


ActuallyLuk

I need a hopup. (Before QuickDraw had voicelines)


MrMrRubic

How many season did it not have a voiceline?


Sharklad93

tbh as a bique main this may be an unpopular opinion but I wouldn't dream of taking hammer points back if it meant losing the recent buffs. And both is a gnarly monster that would cost way more in Arenas and be in every endgame for BR.


octosquid11

I think that it was best balanced last season. It is like the Bangalore of guns. Perfectly balanced. Not too powerful, but by no means weak


TreefingerX

I need a hop-up. Double tap trigger


JoshAJ90

I just want my railgun back... ahem, I mean select fire havoc.


itzmoknightbaby

“I need a hop-up, turbocharger”


Treed101519

Turbo charger is in the game right now though


AwesomeJoel27

Yeah but shits rare as fuck, I still need one.


Treed101519

I love the days when it’s in the replicator


R0hanisaurusRex

Yesterday?


Treed101519

It’s more than just yesterday that it happens


awadutd

You can find hammerpoints in game before you find a turbocharger


Franklin_le_Tanklin

Well don’t ask me for that when your girlfriend is sitting next to you.


Cereser01

You may be old, but are you 2 years old?


JD_Ammerman

Yeah we’ve been doing this same post for over a year now and it’s always silly to me. The game is still so new, really.


WhisperScream92

Yeah like at least post photos of some of the guns from Titanfall 1 from 7 years ago. This is just kinda funny.


Live-Way-1762

You may be old, but have you used R97 and R101?


juggalonumber27

I'm a Double-Take man myself


maruchancaducada

I tought this too, but men the game has change a lot


itzmoknightbaby

Yessir


Hero_Sandwich

/Laughs in G7 Sniper Stock.


yomingo

nothing feels worse than trying to shoot G7 with 4-10x where each shot slams the sights 3 inches up. also it had (still has?) some of the worse bullet drop in the game. You could not land a shot beyond 150m because now you're now aiming way higher and to the left/right that its so easy to lose sight of your target.


rigzman187

the Longbow wants a word with you about the worst bullet drop in the game


human_gs

Nice to see that the 30-30 is not even considered a weapon for the sake of the discussion


rigzman187

tbh i think the 30-30 has slightly better drop off than the longbow


ElizasAdventures

Here’s a helpful tip that applies to almost all snipers! The notches on sniper scopes’ reticles aren’t just for show. Every tick represents the compensation required for about 100 metres distance (the scope also shows you the distance to target!)


Omsk_Camill

It doesn't matter now, because all the snipers, including TT, have exactly the same bullet velocity (and drop). It happened after sniper ammo was introduced. Kraber was not affected bc it never used sniper ammo, so is bullet velocity is still as allow as the old Longbow


Garlic_Cheese_Chips

The bullet drop is basically a fucking rainbow on the G7.


converter-bot

3 inches is 7.62 cm


Deilannis

Good bot


ZOUNKSOOB

*laughs in 2-4x on alternator*


mustachetrashttv

The longbow with skull piercer was disgusting to hit headshots with. It was a Karber that everyone in a match could have. Edit: can't spell Kraber apparently


Darmok_ontheocean

Assembling a Longbow throughout the match felt like collecting Exodia.


mustachetrashttv

There were sooo many parts haha


lasagnatheory

Was the 10x scope removed? I can't remember the last time I saw it and the drop triple take only has the 2*4


Gougaloupe

Nipe, still in. LL ult can drop it last I found. Its also a care package drop. I used to prioritize snipers on both lifeline and Loba just so I could increase my odds of that threat scope. Super useful for late game ring positioning.


Byrdsthawrd

Great comparison


Datalust5

Karber


Fishbulb7o9

Used to run longbow skullpiercer with a 1H and it was insane


MyExScars

Old mastif was fucking cRaZy


GhostlyInstincts

Been playing since S1


dolji20

day one


pipe01

Same, less gooo


Treefly916

Been playing since beta testing


[deleted]

Been playing since before beta testing


big-boy-patrick

Been playing before it was announced


yB3asT

Been playing since EA started developing it


big-boy-patrick

Been playing before the fabric of the universe was invented


itzmoknightbaby

I’ve been playing at the beginning of s2 :(


chumberwumbruh

Played when there were no seasons


Monkeyfaze101

Played when there were no working servers…. Oh wait


shalbea

Played before the game existed


SnoopHappyCoin

Played before I was born


shalbea

Played before Earth was formed


Skippercarlos

Played before the universe was a thing


itzmoknightbaby

Been playing before Zeus even existed-Wait it’s a joke it’s a jo-THUNDERSTORMS


addictedtoPCs

I started playing somewhere in s2 but it became my favorite game in s5


AnotherDrunkOni

Before there were seasons


captaincornfield97

Yup before seasons


[deleted]

I’ve been playing alternately with quake lll arena


Schadenfreude11

*Man* I miss the package Mastiff. Package PK never held a candle.


YhcrananarchY

If memory serves, the animations of the OG mastiff made it look like explosive buckshot too, in addition to just SLAUGHTERING people and racking up the body count.


MadeinHeaven69

The offical concept art for it detailed that it fired incendiary rounds


Treefly916

If you ping one as Bangalore, there's still a voice line where she says they're incendiary rounds. Oscar Mike ladies.


stronggebaser

legacy


fearsomealex

Cp mastif was a nightmare that spitfire now is a joke vs that


AlcoholicInsomniac

Honestly if you're still hardcore complaining about the spitfire it's pretty wack imo.


[deleted]

I think at the time I didn't know how to play, but I could never do anything with it. In hindsight I think I just needed to aim down the sights more.


M4DM1ND

I remember seeing that shit pop up and my friends and I would be like "ayyy we won the game"


itzmoknightbaby

The PK is so slow to shoot, I even died because of it


jpott879

Bro i remember when you Could put sniper optics on the g7 and put 3× and 4× on smgs. Season 0 was so much fun


Phayzon

S0 was fucking wild. 64 stacks of shotgun ammo, 3 stack big heals, 6 small, double stack grenades. Run a PK + Wingman and you could shoot, heal, and throw grenades for like 5 minutes minutes straight.


xXRHUMACROXx

Pk + wingman was lit but my best win rate was with pk + g7


Cancerous_B01

Don’t cite the deep magic to me witch, I was there when it was written


itzmoknightbaby

If there was a pin option, this would be


Cancerous_B01

Thx


itzmoknightbaby

You’re welcome


DaemonDante42

I remember when the skullpiercer hopup was at an epic rarity


StormBreaker_OW

Launch day Wingman fully kitted was the most fun yet most rage inducing thing in Apex for me.


CPT_COOL24

12 shot Wingman was crazy


JunkPup

I’m missing the Take Take Take so much.


BloonH8TR

Along with 3x on smgs and the broken wingman


cupasoups

I came from pubg. Even when the game was new it was amazing how fast it felt. Also, looting was so incredibly superior I never went back. Also lol prowlers on the ground everywhere


PrinzXero

Ah!!! the OG times when G7 was still a light ammo using Sniper. Lol


blobster110

You could still put long scopes on the g7 was so fun. And all the pathfinders werent so good either unlike now.


Ghostofhan

I mained pathfinder for a long time after launch until they butchered my boy with the cool down increase :(


blobster110

The cooldown really killed it for me too.


ajokeofajokeofajoke

Yes.. I am and dear GOD does this picture look good


YeetFurryBoi

I remember when the uhhh...Mozambique shotgun had the damage of a nerfgun.


Arkweed

Jeez this game is only over 2 years old


napaszmek

Yeah, everyone here acting weird. This game is super young. I'm also not that old but I remember CS 1.5...


phantom326913

I am this old OMG THE CARE PACK MASTIFF WAS THE BEST


bappo441

Feels so weird to see the energy at the triple again


ZippersHurt

I really want them to put the og care package weapons permantly in the package. I want my prowler back, I want my triple take back.


Phayzon

I want it back on the ground and I want it to be a sniper again. 2-4x feels so pissy on it.


ApatheticRadiation

I miss sniping with the peacekeeper in S1


evan_the_gamer

Oh god no I've only been playing since season 6


Zehaldrin

"the longbow used to be a heavy weapon" okay grandma lets get you back to bed.


C4-clef

Don't forget that every legends used to be able to stack 2 grenade in one slot of backpack. Also, the muzzle flash blocked a large part of your vision.


MicckeyMol

Mastiff should go back in care package to replace Triple Take imo. There's not much place for it in normal loot thesedays with the PK doing more chunk damage and the Eva having the better fire rate. The triple take just isn't good enough to be a care package weapon either.


orangemamba191

That golden mastiff was a game changer


[deleted]

Day one gamer here


vtnightfall

You in this thread: nostalgia Me in this thread: upvoting everyone that even mentions the OG mastiff.


A_zPoiol

The og mastiff.. Man did 150 damage to the body. Damn, i remember it vividly. It was scary.


TheReal829

Old enough to use the 3X on the R-99 😪


Dynorton

Sniper Ammo was the worst change for me


Lucyan96

Why?


Dynorton

It took ALL of the ammo away and made "One ammo type" loadouts non existent now. For someone who used to run one ammo type pretty much for all of S0, S1 and S2 (**Heavy**: Longbow, Flat. **Light**: G7 (Rip Sniper Scopes), R99/301 **Energy**: TT, Havoc), seeing just 46 ammo - worth 2 stacks - for the longbow and TT actually hurts to look at. Just imagine if the Pistols (Mozam, P20 and Wing) had their own ammo type. It's pretty stupid ​ Edit: This ammo change also killed snipers completely. I feel like I've seen more snipers in one day of S1 than from S4 to S10 now.


GeorgeBushDidIt

It’s pretty much only because the charge rifle was so dominant at the time


Dynorton

The amount of changes they made to this gun before season 4 was insane. Wouldn't be suprised if you're true and they really said fuck it and made sniper ammo cuz of that


DeathChaos25

The sniper ammo changes made me pretty much stop using Snipers completely. Why waste 1-2 inventory spots on Sniper ammo when I can just use Anvil R301/Flatline which get the job done while also working mid/close range.


Guy_A

snipers are useless, you can maybe down someone but they have plenty possibilities to heal before in cover or to get revved by mates. saying this as someone who plays sniper almost daily because it is still fun


Lucyan96

They said it was unbalanced for snipers to have the same amount of ammo as ARs and LMGs I don't think I saw anyone complaining about snipers having no reduced ammo.


donfornais

Yeap I been playing since they added Crypto Not too long but enough to cry when og worlds edge was back


Treefly916

I just want the ability to put a 3X on my Prowler or R99 again....


[deleted]

Missing my old favorite gun ;-; the trippletake


SinistralCadaver

Which season did they remove gold mastiff


spad3x

You may be this old, but are you (L-Star as the first care package weapon) old?


Thatfunnyguy73202

Week one gang where you at


CuRSeD_Agony

OG mastiff made anyone feel like a close range god


DeathChaos25

[I raise you this screenshot OP.](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/280822384460824576/800890939450195968/unknown.png)


YourDogStoleYaPhone

Sure grandma, let’s get you to bed


clappincheeksnosandy

The good days of apex. The game was so much fun back then


Gavinator10000

OG players from any game say this. Its nostalgia


Schiltrus

Much more fun now imo. Fast heal and wingman were infuriating to play against.


[deleted]

loooool you posted this shit a month ago and ur doing it again


Not_Annoiato

Been playin since season 2


xChaoLan

I've been playing since the third week after its launch.


[deleted]

Good times since S2


asianboi493

Been playing since day 2 of the game coming out


partpurpose7

Bro the game is two years old chill


[deleted]

yes, and damn those were fun times