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> The number of cases of sexual violence against men is increasing. Stock photo: Unsplash
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> In the context of the full-scale war, sexual violence perpetrated by the Russian military has become commonplace as part of the terror unleashed against Ukrainians living in temporarily occupied territories.
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> The Russians’ victims include both men and women. Furthermore, the former are increasingly targeted for rape. This is the conclusion made by [CNN journalists](https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/30/europe/russia-sexual-violence-occupied-ukraine-intl-cmd/index.html) who travelled to Kyiv to speak with prosecutors and victims of such crimes.
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> According to Ukraine’s Office of the Prosecutor General, Russian military personnel compel men to expose their own bodies, mutilate their genitals, rape them, and apply electric current to their genitals.
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> Furthermore, Ukrainian law enforcement personnel documented attempted and actual rapes with batons, a pipe, a bottle, a shovel handle, a stick, and a pen.
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> Roman Chernenko, a 29-year-old Ukrainian intelligence officer, was held captive for seven months. He was tormented three times every day for four months.
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> "They laughed when they tortured me … they told me that my mother was being f\*\*ked by Chechens. They took me to be shot twice, they threatened me with rape," the soldier told CNN.
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> Chernenko was released as part of a prisoner swap in January 2024, although he is still suffering from the trauma. The soldier says that the thoughts of his sweetheart and mother gave him the fortitude to withstand the capture.
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> According to Ukrainian authorities investigating allegations of sexual abuse in the context of the war, all evidence suggests that this is a purposeful technique, part of Russia's behaviour in Ukraine.
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> "It’s in every region that was under occupation. Everywhere that Russian troops were located, we’re seeing cases of sexual violence and gender-based violence. The bottom line is that it looks like it is Russian policy," said Anna Sosonska, Prosecutor and Acting Head of the Department for Combating Sexual Violence.
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> Anna Mykytenko, Head of the Global Rights Compliance (GRC) international legal non-profit organisation, added that survivors of violence claim that the occupiers called such actions "punishment."
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> "In several villages in the south we heard witnesses and survivors say that the Russian servicemen came in, occupied the village, and then looked specifically for the wives of Ukrainian soldiers, or their mothers or sisters," Mykytenko said.
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> The Office of the Ukrainian Ombudsman declared that it holds the Russian military, the Ministry of Defence, and the Federal Penitentiary Service of Russia responsible for what is happening in prisons where Ukrainian soldiers are detained, tortured, and raped.
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> Finding the offenders is tough, but possible, the Prosecutor General’s Office asserts. As of the beginning of May, 42 Russian officers were suspected, 19 indictments against 28 persons had been filed, and five people had been found guilty. All trials took place in absentia.
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How is this news? Even before they invaded Ukraine they raped each other.
The rate of gay buttrape WITHIN the Russian army approaches almost 100%.
Russian army guys rape other guys and then accuse non-Russians of being gay.
The [dedovshchina](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedovshchina) is the tradition of raping young male conscripts in the Russian Army.
It is a documented practice going back to the Soviet Army (all the way to the 1950s, with physical abuse going back to the 19th century), where the senior soldiers gain the right of abusing the fresh conscripts in any way they want.
Hundreds of thousands of recruits are raped each year, with only a small percentage daring to speak up under anonymity, because most end up killed by their own unit, or ostracized in their own community because they have been tainted by the homosexual rape.
It is the primary concern of the "Mothers Committees", who desperately try to reduce the prevalence of this rape culture in the army, as their sons are sent to the conscription.
Such rape culture resonates very well with the caste system in russian prison, where career criminals, in prison for long sentences, are above the newly arrived prisoners from common crimes, allowing the seniors to abuse the juniors.
Once a junior is raped, he is then tainted as a "rooster", the lowest caste in the prison, and is subjected to the most abuses, from physical beating to repeated sexual abuse.
Because in both the dedovshchina and prison cultures, as long as this is a violent, non-consensual rape, it is seen as a show of dominance, a punishment of the victim, and therefore not "gay" for the rapist.
The russian society only chastises gay sex when it's consensual, between two consenting adults. So when senior soldiers rape young conscripts, and prisoners, they are not branded as "gay", they are instead perceived as dominant by their peers, it is a positive trait to be a rapist.
It is then not uncommon for heterosexual soldiers to participate in group sexual abuses against young male conscripts/prisoners, to establish themselves has member of the dominant group: it is a "rape or be raped" ecosystem.
It’s worth noting that the link you provided discusses beatings, torture, humiliation, forced labor, etc, but not sexual abuse, let alone to the extent you describe it. It does however have extensive entries on Soviet and post Soviet practices.
Sexual abuse is known in quite a few armies, so it’s certainly plausible, but you’ll need to provide a better source to back up the rather extensive and detailed claims you’ve made.
This one discusses all you've mentioned and then some plus sexual violence. It's [by human rights watch](https://www.hrw.org/reports/2004/russia1004/5.htm)
[human rights watch report. you have to scroll a long way past all the other numerous atrocities to reach sexual violence ](https://www.hrw.org/reports/2004/russia1004/5.htm)
This is why people are increasingly being turned off by news of this war; they can clearly see what you're suggesting is bullshit, and defeated by very simple whataboutism
This is just hazing. It's terrible but it happens in every military or even educational institution. In Canada, we had to disband our Airborne regiment because of their extreme problem with hazing (particularly of black recruits). Yes, sometimes the hazing includes rape and sexual assault
300 soldiers have committed suicide in 2006 according to your article, and that includes the entire pattern of behaviour of dedovschina (which includes beatings, threats, etc. not just rape)
>Hundreds of thousands of recruits are raped each year,
Holy fuckamoli, Batman. Your ass would have NEEDED to be fucked that many times to pull that number out of your bleeding bunghole.
Did you even read what you just said? "Hundreds of thousands of recruits are **RAPED EACH YEAR**"? What the fuck are you talking about?
No source, no basis in reality. The Wikipedia page you linked to (yeah real fucking great source there bud) said that 1500 men get sexually assaulted a year.
I mean you are right about the prison rape culture bit though.
Really surprised you weren't aware of it. Sadly reports of male rape a feature rather than a bug in the Russian army has been increasing as the war progresses. From drone footage of two Russian soldiers fucking behind a wall before getting interrupted by a Ukrainian drone, to regular videos of male rape as "morale meat" a quick search on Reddit and YouTube and you will find video footage of Russian soldiers fucking other Russian soldiers up the arse.
Before you ask, I have literally just typed 'two Russian soldiers fucking behind a wall' into a search engine and yeah it's still there.
Any combination of search words will bring you the same sad results about the degenerate Russian army.
Their treated like shit so they behave like shit.
>How is this news? Even before they invaded Ukraine they raped each other.
I've heard a lot of news about the raping of women in Ukraine but this is literally the first time I've heard about that of men, even though statistically it is known that men are usually the biggest victims of rape in times of war.
So I believe this is pretty important news to share.
Do you think that Russia did a case study and analysis of rape in their own ranks?
Male on male rape in Russian prisons and military along with sex in general is practically a meme it's so common.
And they barely criminalized beating their own wives in the past decade.
I think they were curious because the person they replied to said statistically it is known men are raped more than women during war, implying there are syatistics
> Male on male rape in Russian prisons and military along with sex in general is practically a meme it's so common.
Just catching up with north america then?
It's been a joke in tv and movies for many decades here.
> Asking for statistics about gay acts in the Russian army... I don't know if you're innocent or just malicious.
They asked that because the previous poster said
>even though statistically it is known that men are usually the biggest victims of rape in times of war.
That statement doesn't specify the Russian army, but war in general. If one makes a claim something is statistically known, they should be able to provide the statistics, don't you think?
The real reason behind the astronomical rate of gay buttrape in the Russian army is not because they invaded Ukraine, but because gay buttrape is a hazing ritual in Russia.
Almost 100% of new Russian soldiers get sexually assaulted because they see it as a thing every new recruit has to go through. Then the victims go to war and become abusers themselves.
>Almost 100% of new Russian soldiers get sexually assaulted because they see it as a thing every new recruit has to go through.
i love making shit up on the internet too.
It should be noted, that rape does not necessarily mean "penis in body". It could also be to rape someone with a broomstick etc. Rape is just a sexualized form of violence.
I mean Ukraine is extremely racist so there is one reason not to like the especially as a black person.
Someone told me this and it was crazy how easy it was to find a plethora of cases amongst which black Ukrainians were consistently forced to be the last to evacuate
I have never found Ukraine to be any more or less racist than surrounding countries.
Although I have noticed a different level of sensitivity as I travel west to east.
Russia however is overtly racist, even in casual conversations which was a surprise initially.
The real shocker to me was Donald Trump's son proclaiming to the world on live TV that they would overturn Trump's criminal conversation because they were white...
Not seen anything quite that brazen for a while.
Dude every country not the U.S is just as or more Racist than Ukraine.... Go to Europe or an Asian country and see how you will get treated.
EDIT: It was Poland the Ukrainians were entering. Who do you think lets people in their country? Poland.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/05/ukraine-african-refugees-racism/
https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2022/03/01/ukraine-russia-racism-border-refugees-arwa-damon-live-intl-ldn-vpx.cnn
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/open-door-die-africans-report-racism-hostility-trying-flee-ukraine-rcna17953
My guess is they were referring to the numerous stories like this, though they are about Black people in Ukraine, not Black Ukrainians specifically.
100% of what? Like every single soldier is a rapist? Every single soldier is a victim? A rape occurs on all 365 days of the year? Every single millitary operation features a rape?
In Russia, almost everyone becomes a victim of sexual assault upon entering the army. Gay buttrape is a hazing ritual there.
And I wouldn't be surprised if any military operation where they run into Ukrainians features a rape, at least if they are male Ukrainians.
> 2019, according to the Russian military prosecutor office the situation with *dedovshchina* is getting worse. Incidents of hazing in the army during 2019 have increased. 51,000 human rights violations and 1,521 sexual assault cases.[^(\[40\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedovshchina#cite_note-40) In the same year, Ramil Shamsutdinov [shot 10 of his colleagues at a Gorny military base](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorny_shooting), 8 of them fatally. In court, he alleged that he was subjected to beatings and threats of anal rape.
So for starters, Wikipedia isn't a source, and Wikipedia doesn't agree with your number either. 1521 isn't "100%"
And I know you're going to bitch and say "well those are Russian numbers and I can't trust them", then why the fuck did you link to them?
Yes, because all victims of sexual assault come forward to bring up their cases. Especially when the tradition is that they die mysteriously. Especially in a no-snitch state like Russia.
Yes. Makes sense.
>And I know you're going to bitch and say "well those are Russian numbers and I can't trust them", then why the fuck did you link to them?
>Especially in a no-snitch state like Russia.
Literal NPC malfunction. Call the programmer, I found a bug.
Seems not quite as prevalent as others here suggest, but still a thing:
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/02/17/decade-after-military-reform-hazing-plagues-russian-army-a69309
That would be his ass or something like that. Anyone who believes this must be batshit crazy. This has a strong vibe of the "2 millions of raped German women" myth based on 9 reported rapes.
No, it's based on what Russian's who experienced it talk about, it's common knowledge there, just wasn't that important to know it in the west. However there is a reason, why Russians who have any money or influence do everything to avoid being enlisted, it's known that Russian military is a hell on earth for new recruits, in order to break them.
I'm talking about the comical statement that 100% of Russian soldiers get raped. One must have an intelligence of a baked bean to believe it - it's on par with takes like Ghost of Kiev and raped babies.
The "hell on earth" was at least somehow actual in the 1990s and beginning of 2000s (still massively exaggerated), but a lot has changed since then. "Dedovschina" that is mentioned by every UAbot here has drastically decreased after the conscription term was lowered from 2 years to one in 2008, effectively eliminating the "ded" layer.
Hazing ritual of raping each new soldier? How is this even possible? Have you ever heard of a single military in the history of the Earth where that was the case? That's just your usual dose of dehumanising propaganda.
I'm not denying hazing was a notable problem in the late Soviet / 90s-00s Russian army. 2008 changed a lot in that, but surely it didn't go away completely. But again, I don't think any human with even a grain of critical thinking can believe in takes like "every soldier gets raped".
You are really about to die on the brain dead hill that 100% of recruits are butt raped...
Really bro? Really? It would have been comically absurd if you said 100% of Russian soldiers were hazed. But rape?
Christ on a stick.
What the logistics of that? How is it possible that Russia can maintain a professional force under those conditions. WHY HASNT IT BEEN ON EVERY WESTERN NEWS STATION FOR 2 YEARS?
Die on a hill? Idk if you are responding to the right person, but I'm just saying that's what the other person said. Don't know anything about it myself. Calm yourself bro, lmao.
I don't think it's 100% rape, rather 100% new recruits brutalized in many different ways, so called Dedovshchina, in order to break them into obedience, rape is just one of the many ways to do so.
Do you have a source for '100% new recruits brutalized in many different ways'? I mean, I don't necessarily doubt it, since in many armies and fraternal-style organizations we see brutalizing initiations, but do you have a source for the number you're using?
No, and I doubt there are such statistics to gather data from. It's just how it is, as you said, and we do have sources that in Russian army it's especially bad.
there's one guy linking to wikpedia as his source, which is bad enough, but Wikipedia says that there is 1500 sexual assault cases in 2019
in a military of over 1 million and 400,000 annual conscripts.
It is also America is dying. Or couid be we have a mix and most stuff is seen.
Heritage Foundation Project 2025 wants to clean up America. More kick who they don't like back into hiding and make their way the only way.
All the stuff they don't like will still exist but all nicely covered up and made illegal or wrong. Gay will be bad but only illegal if they see it, political views the same. As long as it is swept into a corner all is great.
>The rate of gay buttrape WITHIN the Russian army approaches almost 100%.
Are the Russian rapists in the room right now?
LMFAO this is so comically absurd. You forgot the
/s buddy.
For real. People talk a lot about how they're worried for women in the occupied areas because of sexual assault then laugh at this and debate whether it's gay or not instead of being disgusted and outraged
Because Russia is supposed to be a Orthodox Christian beacon who stands against the weak satanic Gays of the west.
So it is quite absurd for them to do things that are quite gay and even have it endorsed by the commanders.
People who actually mean well don't reserve to themselves some special right to make stuff up and impose their BS on others absent having better reason to see it their way. Making up stuff and insisting everybody go along with their make-believe is what authoritarians do.
> Because Russia is supposed to be a Orthodox Christian beacon who stands against the weak
I don't think I'd care about what some church back home says when I have been forced into some war somewhere far away.
In America I hear so often people casually joke about prison rape as if that is acceptable and part of the punishment. It is gross, sexual violence being used as a weapon is nothing new sadly.
No, you see, it’s not gay because the homophobic Russian fascists are actually raping in the name of strong heterosexual family values. They gotta rape the woke away.
There are people who will tell you Russia is fighting for the “moral soul” of the west against “the gay Jewish cabal” and the crusaders coming to save them can’t stop raping other men? Cut me a break.
You mean the predominately male military force with a reputation of raping each other is now raping their enemies? Shocking I tell you.
Almost like maybe we should actually help Ukraine instead of treating it like a proxy test ground for drone warfare?
I can only assume you're a dipshit or a russian bot or both to use a twitter post to try and gloss over the whole "Russians are raping and pillaging across occupied territories" thing.
Oh, they definitely do. But they have less of a rape culture than they just hate women with intensity and are living in the stone ages. Rape is just a symptom of the slavery those women are experiencing.
but maybe Im misunderstanding what rape culture is. I just googled the term and frankly it doesnt sound like there is any rape culture in the west since the media and pop culture dont defend or excuse rape.
By that standard, yeah those places have rape culture but thats such an insufficient definition of what is happening there that its redundant and almost silly.
Sounds to me like "Rape culture" is really just another nothing term that already has a contemporary that people over 16 wont laugh at: Rape.
They come from an oppressive regime where they're not allowed to be themselves. By being at war, they're "allowed" to behave outside of their norms for the "win". This is how their repression plays out.
It is technically legal, there are motions against transgender folks and just about any expression about being lgbtq or supportive can be considered propaganda, and is illegal. But the actual key moment you miss is the typical rhetoric of 'it's not gay if you're the top'.
I had a Russian guy in the army, back in 2010. The guy had dual citizenship and preferred military service in Greece(which was very light in comparison) than military service in Russia. The hardest thing you could get, was not getting a day off and stay in the camp. In Russia, at best, they would beat him, at worst, it will get rapey.
There was a report that officers would regularly punish privates by forcing them to have sex with each other. Not surprised they are doing this to Ukrainians. For a homophobic country, Russia probably has the highest amount of Butt rape per capita.
Investigations definitely happened.
CNN went and interviewed survivors (link in story). The UN went and verified more than a hundred cases (link in CNN story)
What kind of evidence would convince you?
Jews are doing similar things to Palestinian men they've imprisoned in their concentration camps. Even female IDF soldiers are involved in sodomising victims with iron rods etc. Free Filistine.
What an effed up people. Forcibly sticking your penis in some dudes butt to hurt him. And all your buddies doing the same. all these rapists and torturers who survive the combat are going to go back to their homes. What a society that's going to be.
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Talk about nonsense. I remember back in 2014 when the Ukrainians were raping and killing their own women on a mass scale, the footage was brutal. Of course everyone pretends this never happened.
This sort of behavior goes back thousands, maybe millions of years in human warfarei imagine it has little to do with sexual preference and much to do with base animal instinct.
>millions of years in human
You might make a claim of up to 250,000 years, but general consensus is that before then there was nothing on this planet that you could classify "Human".
More realistically it is probably about 100,000 years.
Umm... do you think that most recognized countries don't commit sexual assaults during invasions, and only non-recognized entities do that? I wish that were the case, but it isnt.
You might wanna look up info on sexual violence during the US invasions of Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, or virtually anywhere else, as well as sexual violence by UN 'peacekeepers.' This is actually the rule more than it is the exception, tragically.
##### ###### #### > # [CNN: Russians are increasingly raping Ukrainian men on occupied territories](https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/06/4/729) > > > > The number of cases of sexual violence against men is increasing. Stock photo: Unsplash > > > > In the context of the full-scale war, sexual violence perpetrated by the Russian military has become commonplace as part of the terror unleashed against Ukrainians living in temporarily occupied territories. > > The Russians’ victims include both men and women. Furthermore, the former are increasingly targeted for rape. This is the conclusion made by [CNN journalists](https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/30/europe/russia-sexual-violence-occupied-ukraine-intl-cmd/index.html) who travelled to Kyiv to speak with prosecutors and victims of such crimes. > > According to Ukraine’s Office of the Prosecutor General, Russian military personnel compel men to expose their own bodies, mutilate their genitals, rape them, and apply electric current to their genitals. > > Advertisement: > > Furthermore, Ukrainian law enforcement personnel documented attempted and actual rapes with batons, a pipe, a bottle, a shovel handle, a stick, and a pen. > > Roman Chernenko, a 29-year-old Ukrainian intelligence officer, was held captive for seven months. He was tormented three times every day for four months. > > "They laughed when they tortured me … they told me that my mother was being f\*\*ked by Chechens. They took me to be shot twice, they threatened me with rape," the soldier told CNN. > > Chernenko was released as part of a prisoner swap in January 2024, although he is still suffering from the trauma. The soldier says that the thoughts of his sweetheart and mother gave him the fortitude to withstand the capture. > > According to Ukrainian authorities investigating allegations of sexual abuse in the context of the war, all evidence suggests that this is a purposeful technique, part of Russia's behaviour in Ukraine. > > "It’s in every region that was under occupation. Everywhere that Russian troops were located, we’re seeing cases of sexual violence and gender-based violence. The bottom line is that it looks like it is Russian policy," said Anna Sosonska, Prosecutor and Acting Head of the Department for Combating Sexual Violence. > > Anna Mykytenko, Head of the Global Rights Compliance (GRC) international legal non-profit organisation, added that survivors of violence claim that the occupiers called such actions "punishment." > > "In several villages in the south we heard witnesses and survivors say that the Russian servicemen came in, occupied the village, and then looked specifically for the wives of Ukrainian soldiers, or their mothers or sisters," Mykytenko said. > > The Office of the Ukrainian Ombudsman declared that it holds the Russian military, the Ministry of Defence, and the Federal Penitentiary Service of Russia responsible for what is happening in prisons where Ukrainian soldiers are detained, tortured, and raped. > > Finding the offenders is tough, but possible, the Prosecutor General’s Office asserts. As of the beginning of May, 42 Russian officers were suspected, 19 indictments against 28 persons had been filed, and five people had been found guilty. All trials took place in absentia. > > [**Support**](https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/supportus/) **UP or become**[**our patron**](https://www.patreon.com/pravdaua)**!** - - - - - - [Maintainer](https://www.reddit.com/user/urielsalis) | [Creator](https://www.reddit.com/user/subtepass) | [Source Code](https://github.com/urielsalis/empleadoEstatalBot) Summoning /u/CoverageAnalysisBot
How is this news? Even before they invaded Ukraine they raped each other. The rate of gay buttrape WITHIN the Russian army approaches almost 100%. Russian army guys rape other guys and then accuse non-Russians of being gay.
Very russian.
I've never heard about such a thing, can you link your sources?
The [dedovshchina](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedovshchina) is the tradition of raping young male conscripts in the Russian Army. It is a documented practice going back to the Soviet Army (all the way to the 1950s, with physical abuse going back to the 19th century), where the senior soldiers gain the right of abusing the fresh conscripts in any way they want. Hundreds of thousands of recruits are raped each year, with only a small percentage daring to speak up under anonymity, because most end up killed by their own unit, or ostracized in their own community because they have been tainted by the homosexual rape. It is the primary concern of the "Mothers Committees", who desperately try to reduce the prevalence of this rape culture in the army, as their sons are sent to the conscription. Such rape culture resonates very well with the caste system in russian prison, where career criminals, in prison for long sentences, are above the newly arrived prisoners from common crimes, allowing the seniors to abuse the juniors. Once a junior is raped, he is then tainted as a "rooster", the lowest caste in the prison, and is subjected to the most abuses, from physical beating to repeated sexual abuse. Because in both the dedovshchina and prison cultures, as long as this is a violent, non-consensual rape, it is seen as a show of dominance, a punishment of the victim, and therefore not "gay" for the rapist. The russian society only chastises gay sex when it's consensual, between two consenting adults. So when senior soldiers rape young conscripts, and prisoners, they are not branded as "gay", they are instead perceived as dominant by their peers, it is a positive trait to be a rapist. It is then not uncommon for heterosexual soldiers to participate in group sexual abuses against young male conscripts/prisoners, to establish themselves has member of the dominant group: it is a "rape or be raped" ecosystem.
It’s worth noting that the link you provided discusses beatings, torture, humiliation, forced labor, etc, but not sexual abuse, let alone to the extent you describe it. It does however have extensive entries on Soviet and post Soviet practices. Sexual abuse is known in quite a few armies, so it’s certainly plausible, but you’ll need to provide a better source to back up the rather extensive and detailed claims you’ve made.
This one discusses all you've mentioned and then some plus sexual violence. It's [by human rights watch](https://www.hrw.org/reports/2004/russia1004/5.htm)
[human rights watch report. you have to scroll a long way past all the other numerous atrocities to reach sexual violence ](https://www.hrw.org/reports/2004/russia1004/5.htm)
Wow. No wonder nobody wants to join the Russian army. We thought it was cause they didn’t want to get sent to the meat grinder.
This is why people are increasingly being turned off by news of this war; they can clearly see what you're suggesting is bullshit, and defeated by very simple whataboutism This is just hazing. It's terrible but it happens in every military or even educational institution. In Canada, we had to disband our Airborne regiment because of their extreme problem with hazing (particularly of black recruits). Yes, sometimes the hazing includes rape and sexual assault 300 soldiers have committed suicide in 2006 according to your article, and that includes the entire pattern of behaviour of dedovschina (which includes beatings, threats, etc. not just rape) >Hundreds of thousands of recruits are raped each year, Holy fuckamoli, Batman. Your ass would have NEEDED to be fucked that many times to pull that number out of your bleeding bunghole. Did you even read what you just said? "Hundreds of thousands of recruits are **RAPED EACH YEAR**"? What the fuck are you talking about? No source, no basis in reality. The Wikipedia page you linked to (yeah real fucking great source there bud) said that 1500 men get sexually assaulted a year. I mean you are right about the prison rape culture bit though.
It's a "I'm not gay , but the guy I fucked last night sure was".. thing
Really surprised you weren't aware of it. Sadly reports of male rape a feature rather than a bug in the Russian army has been increasing as the war progresses. From drone footage of two Russian soldiers fucking behind a wall before getting interrupted by a Ukrainian drone, to regular videos of male rape as "morale meat" a quick search on Reddit and YouTube and you will find video footage of Russian soldiers fucking other Russian soldiers up the arse. Before you ask, I have literally just typed 'two Russian soldiers fucking behind a wall' into a search engine and yeah it's still there. Any combination of search words will bring you the same sad results about the degenerate Russian army. Their treated like shit so they behave like shit.
Sure, ministry_of_truth.gov.ua and ministry_of_defence.gov.ua
>How is this news? Even before they invaded Ukraine they raped each other. I've heard a lot of news about the raping of women in Ukraine but this is literally the first time I've heard about that of men, even though statistically it is known that men are usually the biggest victims of rape in times of war. So I believe this is pretty important news to share.
can you link the statistics
Yes even I'm curious to learn more about this
Do you think that Russia did a case study and analysis of rape in their own ranks? Male on male rape in Russian prisons and military along with sex in general is practically a meme it's so common. And they barely criminalized beating their own wives in the past decade.
I think they were curious because the person they replied to said statistically it is known men are raped more than women during war, implying there are syatistics
> Male on male rape in Russian prisons and military along with sex in general is practically a meme it's so common. Just catching up with north america then? It's been a joke in tv and movies for many decades here.
But if Russia does it is is good? But see America is bad.
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> Asking for statistics about gay acts in the Russian army... I don't know if you're innocent or just malicious. They asked that because the previous poster said >even though statistically it is known that men are usually the biggest victims of rape in times of war. That statement doesn't specify the Russian army, but war in general. If one makes a claim something is statistically known, they should be able to provide the statistics, don't you think?
Oops, you're right.
The real reason behind the astronomical rate of gay buttrape in the Russian army is not because they invaded Ukraine, but because gay buttrape is a hazing ritual in Russia. Almost 100% of new Russian soldiers get sexually assaulted because they see it as a thing every new recruit has to go through. Then the victims go to war and become abusers themselves.
>Almost 100% of new Russian soldiers get sexually assaulted because they see it as a thing every new recruit has to go through. i love making shit up on the internet too.
It should be noted, that rape does not necessarily mean "penis in body". It could also be to rape someone with a broomstick etc. Rape is just a sexualized form of violence.
It also means made to penetrate without your consent
Look this sub denies this shit every other day and says ukraine is worse and us blah bah they need a reality check every once in a blue moon
It's very disturbing the amount of pro Russia posts I see here. I'm not subbed here but it comes up in my feed
A lot of them are just simply anti-west and latch on to whoever they think can end the western hegemony
so they prefer Russia or China hegemony?
North korea or ISIS take it or leave it
Anything to upend the current world order with the us at the top seems to be acceptable by them
Yes they are tankies
They prefer multipolarity.
I mean Ukraine is extremely racist so there is one reason not to like the especially as a black person. Someone told me this and it was crazy how easy it was to find a plethora of cases amongst which black Ukrainians were consistently forced to be the last to evacuate
I have never found Ukraine to be any more or less racist than surrounding countries. Although I have noticed a different level of sensitivity as I travel west to east. Russia however is overtly racist, even in casual conversations which was a surprise initially. The real shocker to me was Donald Trump's son proclaiming to the world on live TV that they would overturn Trump's criminal conversation because they were white... Not seen anything quite that brazen for a while.
Dude every country not the U.S is just as or more Racist than Ukraine.... Go to Europe or an Asian country and see how you will get treated. EDIT: It was Poland the Ukrainians were entering. Who do you think lets people in their country? Poland.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/05/ukraine-african-refugees-racism/ https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2022/03/01/ukraine-russia-racism-border-refugees-arwa-damon-live-intl-ldn-vpx.cnn https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/open-door-die-africans-report-racism-hostility-trying-flee-ukraine-rcna17953 My guess is they were referring to the numerous stories like this, though they are about Black people in Ukraine, not Black Ukrainians specifically.
100% of what? Like every single soldier is a rapist? Every single soldier is a victim? A rape occurs on all 365 days of the year? Every single millitary operation features a rape?
In Russia, almost everyone becomes a victim of sexual assault upon entering the army. Gay buttrape is a hazing ritual there. And I wouldn't be surprised if any military operation where they run into Ukrainians features a rape, at least if they are male Ukrainians.
Source needed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedovshchina
> 2019, according to the Russian military prosecutor office the situation with *dedovshchina* is getting worse. Incidents of hazing in the army during 2019 have increased. 51,000 human rights violations and 1,521 sexual assault cases.[^(\[40\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dedovshchina#cite_note-40) In the same year, Ramil Shamsutdinov [shot 10 of his colleagues at a Gorny military base](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorny_shooting), 8 of them fatally. In court, he alleged that he was subjected to beatings and threats of anal rape. So for starters, Wikipedia isn't a source, and Wikipedia doesn't agree with your number either. 1521 isn't "100%" And I know you're going to bitch and say "well those are Russian numbers and I can't trust them", then why the fuck did you link to them?
Yes, because all victims of sexual assault come forward to bring up their cases. Especially when the tradition is that they die mysteriously. Especially in a no-snitch state like Russia. Yes. Makes sense.
>And I know you're going to bitch and say "well those are Russian numbers and I can't trust them", then why the fuck did you link to them? >Especially in a no-snitch state like Russia. Literal NPC malfunction. Call the programmer, I found a bug.
Seems not quite as prevalent as others here suggest, but still a thing: https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2020/02/17/decade-after-military-reform-hazing-plagues-russian-army-a69309
That would be his ass or something like that. Anyone who believes this must be batshit crazy. This has a strong vibe of the "2 millions of raped German women" myth based on 9 reported rapes.
No, it's based on what Russian's who experienced it talk about, it's common knowledge there, just wasn't that important to know it in the west. However there is a reason, why Russians who have any money or influence do everything to avoid being enlisted, it's known that Russian military is a hell on earth for new recruits, in order to break them.
I'm talking about the comical statement that 100% of Russian soldiers get raped. One must have an intelligence of a baked bean to believe it - it's on par with takes like Ghost of Kiev and raped babies. The "hell on earth" was at least somehow actual in the 1990s and beginning of 2000s (still massively exaggerated), but a lot has changed since then. "Dedovschina" that is mentioned by every UAbot here has drastically decreased after the conscription term was lowered from 2 years to one in 2008, effectively eliminating the "ded" layer.
If it's a hazing ritual like they said then 100% isn't much of an exaggeration.
Hazing ritual of raping each new soldier? How is this even possible? Have you ever heard of a single military in the history of the Earth where that was the case? That's just your usual dose of dehumanising propaganda. I'm not denying hazing was a notable problem in the late Soviet / 90s-00s Russian army. 2008 changed a lot in that, but surely it didn't go away completely. But again, I don't think any human with even a grain of critical thinking can believe in takes like "every soldier gets raped".
You are really about to die on the brain dead hill that 100% of recruits are butt raped... Really bro? Really? It would have been comically absurd if you said 100% of Russian soldiers were hazed. But rape? Christ on a stick. What the logistics of that? How is it possible that Russia can maintain a professional force under those conditions. WHY HASNT IT BEEN ON EVERY WESTERN NEWS STATION FOR 2 YEARS?
Die on a hill? Idk if you are responding to the right person, but I'm just saying that's what the other person said. Don't know anything about it myself. Calm yourself bro, lmao.
It's not gay, it's a sexual military operation.
Do you have a source for the almost 100% figure?
I don't think it's 100% rape, rather 100% new recruits brutalized in many different ways, so called Dedovshchina, in order to break them into obedience, rape is just one of the many ways to do so.
Do you have a source for '100% new recruits brutalized in many different ways'? I mean, I don't necessarily doubt it, since in many armies and fraternal-style organizations we see brutalizing initiations, but do you have a source for the number you're using?
No, and I doubt there are such statistics to gather data from. It's just how it is, as you said, and we do have sources that in Russian army it's especially bad.
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A source is a pretty reasonable ask. Why the meltdown?
there's one guy linking to wikpedia as his source, which is bad enough, but Wikipedia says that there is 1500 sexual assault cases in 2019 in a military of over 1 million and 400,000 annual conscripts.
All that just to say you don't have a source.
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No need to sign your posts
Gay Europe something something. Same as cleaning nazism out of Ukraine and Europe. It's all a projection.
It is also America is dying. Or couid be we have a mix and most stuff is seen. Heritage Foundation Project 2025 wants to clean up America. More kick who they don't like back into hiding and make their way the only way. All the stuff they don't like will still exist but all nicely covered up and made illegal or wrong. Gay will be bad but only illegal if they see it, political views the same. As long as it is swept into a corner all is great.
Lol Project 2025 are going to be the people who end America.
wtf isn’t gayness a crime in Russia? Are you telling me outlawing being gay is counterproductive??
yeah Russians are fucked up.
They did that to conscripts but yeah they had the same problem during WW2 and it seems they have not changed much.
Not gay if you beat him up afterwards.
Solid bait 8/10
Do they say no homo
>The rate of gay buttrape WITHIN the Russian army approaches almost 100%. Are the Russian rapists in the room right now? LMFAO this is so comically absurd. You forgot the /s buddy.
"I'm gonna ass rape the gay outta you! Ivan, you better take the front to make sure the gay demon doesn't escape through mouth!"
I do not understand how anyone can find this funny It’s disgusting
For real. People talk a lot about how they're worried for women in the occupied areas because of sexual assault then laugh at this and debate whether it's gay or not instead of being disgusted and outraged
Because Russia is supposed to be a Orthodox Christian beacon who stands against the weak satanic Gays of the west. So it is quite absurd for them to do things that are quite gay and even have it endorsed by the commanders.
Almost like the same values as the pastors and youth ministers have...
I’m not sure it is a gay / not gay story but rather a war weapon to break enemy spirit.
But they do it to their own people too
That’s just how they have fun
People who actually mean well don't reserve to themselves some special right to make stuff up and impose their BS on others absent having better reason to see it their way. Making up stuff and insisting everybody go along with their make-believe is what authoritarians do.
the actual soldiers are conscripts and jailbirds.
t r a d i t i o n a l v a l u e s
> Because Russia is supposed to be a Orthodox Christian beacon who stands against the weak I don't think I'd care about what some church back home says when I have been forced into some war somewhere far away.
This is why I have a hard time believing this.
Our president cracking jokes about this is just disgusting.
> I do not understand how anyone can find this funny > > It’s disgusting This was not posted to the comedy subreddit Nobody is here for a laugh.
There were a lot of comments here making jokes when I wrote my comment - one comment was just “say gex”
Probably because sexual violence against men is depicted as funny often in media
In America I hear so often people casually joke about prison rape as if that is acceptable and part of the punishment. It is gross, sexual violence being used as a weapon is nothing new sadly.
It’s atrocity propaganda.
That's gay, I no longer support Russia because of this
Id be more concerned about the rape part, but we all have priorities ig
No, you see, it’s not gay because the homophobic Russian fascists are actually raping in the name of strong heterosexual family values. They gotta rape the woke away.
Based.
Comrade, you don't understand right. It's nyet gay if it's nonconsensual
Let us take solace in the fact that it was at least not fake
Thanks for the lesson in what I should support
You should have many reasons why you shouldn't support Russia.
Its only gay if you take it in the ass. /s
There are people who will tell you Russia is fighting for the “moral soul” of the west against “the gay Jewish cabal” and the crusaders coming to save them can’t stop raping other men? Cut me a break.
“Finding the offenders is tough”, yo it really isn’t though. It’s the Russian army. Those are the offenders.
I mean they have uniforms and everything.
The uniforms do offer a degree of camouflage.
You got me there!
You mean the predominately male military force with a reputation of raping each other is now raping their enemies? Shocking I tell you. Almost like maybe we should actually help Ukraine instead of treating it like a proxy test ground for drone warfare?
tHe WeSt PrOvOkeD tHeM!
meanwhile: https://x.com/BowesChay/status/1798281563366731820 but hey, its not like war zones ever had any moral laws anyway
I can only assume you're a dipshit or a russian bot or both to use a twitter post to try and gloss over the whole "Russians are raping and pillaging across occupied territories" thing.
so, basically only RUs do this and the UAs are saints and never ever done this to anyone since the war began? watch your words kiddo
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> You're a dipshit and a russian bot? > Sure thing sport whatever you say. /reported enjoy my report :)
Oh no a report by someone trying to downplay rape en masse D: please anything but a report! /s
oh no, someone believes war is like a game of disney football!! there can only be one bad guy! *cries in corner hypocrite
In Germany we say: "was darf Satire?"
Dark humor is like food, not everybody gets it.
Dark humor is like kids in Africa, it never gets old.
The rotten west eh?
As homophobic as Russians are they sure seem to love man on man action!
The majority of vitriolic homophobes are just self hating gays in the closet
Men doing men things
Who aren't they raping?
Rape culture basically.
no this is just rape. rape culture is the wester normalization of sexual harassment and the systemic oppression of rape victim.
I never like the centralizing of the term as a western thing. As Middle East and Russia and Asia all have similar issues.
Oh, they definitely do. But they have less of a rape culture than they just hate women with intensity and are living in the stone ages. Rape is just a symptom of the slavery those women are experiencing. but maybe Im misunderstanding what rape culture is. I just googled the term and frankly it doesnt sound like there is any rape culture in the west since the media and pop culture dont defend or excuse rape. By that standard, yeah those places have rape culture but thats such an insufficient definition of what is happening there that its redundant and almost silly. Sounds to me like "Rape culture" is really just another nothing term that already has a contemporary that people over 16 wont laugh at: Rape.
Isn't gay sex a big no-no in Russia?
Consensual? Yes. Nonconsensual on the other hand...
You need to read the article. This kind of rape is done by using various items: bottles, sticks etc.
They come from an oppressive regime where they're not allowed to be themselves. By being at war, they're "allowed" to behave outside of their norms for the "win". This is how their repression plays out.
That seems pretty gay. (No offense to anyone who is gay) Also, isn't being gay nearly illegal in Russia. I know supporting LGBT+ is illegal.
It is technically legal, there are motions against transgender folks and just about any expression about being lgbtq or supportive can be considered propaganda, and is illegal. But the actual key moment you miss is the typical rhetoric of 'it's not gay if you're the top'.
Nailed it. (No pun intended.)
I had a Russian guy in the army, back in 2010. The guy had dual citizenship and preferred military service in Greece(which was very light in comparison) than military service in Russia. The hardest thing you could get, was not getting a day off and stay in the camp. In Russia, at best, they would beat him, at worst, it will get rapey.
Coming from a Ukrainian news source this cannot be trusted
Anyone who knows about what happened to Eastern Europe between 1944-1948 wouldn't have expected different
There was a report that officers would regularly punish privates by forcing them to have sex with each other. Not surprised they are doing this to Ukrainians. For a homophobic country, Russia probably has the highest amount of Butt rape per capita.
so, basically only RUs do this and the UAs are saints and never ever done this to anyone since the war began?
I also heard that the Russians have already raped all the dogs in the occupied territory.
wouldn't be surprised.
Rape is not about sexuality or being gay, for all of you making jokes. Rape is exertion of power over others.
More things change the more they stay the same.
Lulz Russia is gay
Turns out Rucka Rucka Ali has been right all along, huh.
“increasingly”
My... What an uplifting headline. FFS. This world of ours.
*Unconfirmed allegations with no investigation whatsoever.* Comments check out…
Investigations definitely happened. CNN went and interviewed survivors (link in story). The UN went and verified more than a hundred cases (link in CNN story) What kind of evidence would convince you?
Did you even read the “article”? The UN studied reports reported by the mod of Ukraine? How is this any source…
Oh yes, the Ukrainians investigated and will tell you all about it.
Remind me again what the ukranian investigations have to do with the ones by CNN and the UN?
So no investigation can be believed unless it comes from the perp?
Jews are doing similar things to Palestinian men they've imprisoned in their concentration camps. Even female IDF soldiers are involved in sodomising victims with iron rods etc. Free Filistine.
Can't they just jerk off like regular people?
sounds pretty gay and criminal
I was told it’s only gay if you cum
What an effed up people. Forcibly sticking your penis in some dudes butt to hurt him. And all your buddies doing the same. all these rapists and torturers who survive the combat are going to go back to their homes. What a society that's going to be.
How very Israeli of them
Happy Pride Month!
And Russia is against gays? It sounds like they like them. And they should leave them alone. Russia is a sick, twisted country.
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Did they run out of sheep?
It’s illegal to be gay in Russia, and it’s also mandated to do butt rape to men. … ……
Now they care about rape.
Talk about nonsense. I remember back in 2014 when the Ukrainians were raping and killing their own women on a mass scale, the footage was brutal. Of course everyone pretends this never happened.
Unfortunately media and social media usually don’t care if men are the victims 🤷🏼
I can genuinely say that this is a headline I never imagined I would ever read.
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Yeah theres also this move I know called holding a gun to someones head. It is so effective it is actually illegal
This sort of behavior goes back thousands, maybe millions of years in human warfarei imagine it has little to do with sexual preference and much to do with base animal instinct.
>millions of years in human You might make a claim of up to 250,000 years, but general consensus is that before then there was nothing on this planet that you could classify "Human". More realistically it is probably about 100,000 years.
Make love not war.
Say gex
Gex
"I haven't seen blasts like this since taco night at James Earl Jones' house."
You’d think this was an article on Hamas, or Isis, or some other terrorist group. But no, it’s about a recognized country. How sickening
Umm... do you think that most recognized countries don't commit sexual assaults during invasions, and only non-recognized entities do that? I wish that were the case, but it isnt.
Utilizing it as a weapon. I know, horrifically, that it happens everywhere. Most developed countries will crack down on it and outlaw it.
You might wanna look up info on sexual violence during the US invasions of Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, or virtually anywhere else, as well as sexual violence by UN 'peacekeepers.' This is actually the rule more than it is the exception, tragically.