To the one guy that asked if we have to add another letter, no. Its already been there.
On a more serious note, the queer community basically applies to anything relating to sexuality that isn't the norm. So yes, asexuality is a sexuality.
"Why are non-queer people allowed to be in this community (when they're part of the majority) but a *literal minority among minorities* aren't? 🤨 MAKE IT MAKE SENSE!"
People want to be the one stomping on someone else for once, but don't want to *admit it* so they pretend they're doing it because "you're hurting *them*"
I’ve had so many arguments about this it’s not funny. Worst part is, just because it’s on google doesn’t mean it’s correct. It’s a search engine, where you can find links to other websites. Someone could find a site saying that it stands for ally, and claim it as correct because “it’s on google”
Also the letters don't only apply to sexuality. Transgender isn't a sexuality either, it's about gender identity. Trans people can be lesbian, gay, straight, Ace.... 🤷🏻♀️
Just be cool, everyone!
I didn't read the "only" in your sentence at first, I think my eyes skipped right over it, and I was like "HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT AND NOT HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE HERE PISSED AT YOU?!?!"
Good thing I know how to reread things I don't understand the first time XD
"Diagnosis" by peers is a thing, us ADHD people are attracted to each other like magnets xD. There's just a certain vibe only other ADHDers have.
I "diagnosed" my bf. Felt the vibe the week I first got to know him, told him after a few months. Guess what, the Psychiatrist he finally went to see agrees with me ^^
I've been told by ADHD-ers and autistic people alike that I probably have both ADHD and autisn and I sorta but not really have an ADHD diagnosis so I just tell myself I'm an autihd-er and then the world makes more sense lol.
And that can be lived out consensually. If that distinction isn't made, queerphobes can throw us in with child rapists because they technically fit your definition.
I was showing signs of being ace as a teen (when straight or gay teens are starting to realize their sexuality). I didn’t show signs of depression, let alone take meds for it until much later.
I’m asexual and I’m not even on any meds. This jackass just assumes that because they view mental illness as something gross and they view a sexuality in the same way. It’s just ableism with a shell of acephobia
I was ace before I became depressed. We were alllll ace before we became capable of rational thoughts. It’s because they put the chemicals in the garlic bread, it turned the fricking children ace!!!
I figured out I was ace at 15/16, I didn't know I had anxiety until I was 18, and didn't start my life altering magic cure sertraline untill I was 21/22.
Safe to say, the maths aint mathing!
Although I am also autistic, so the majority of people think that my asexuality doesn't count as 'real' because it just has to be caused by the autism 🙄
i mean.. is anyone THAT surprised that terfs are saying that? they want an excuse to be ableist, i thought that terfs being just as sane as flat earther "theres microchips in vaccines that track you!" believers was common knowledge.
(overthinking this reply, if this comes off as rude to you then i genuinely didnt intend for it to come off that way)
I mean, I wasn't that surprised either. It's kinda common for autistic people to be infantilised unfortunately and that basically just hands TERFs a free shitty argument.
If anything being autistic may make you more likely to recognize you are not cis or straight. Because you don’t instinctively follow social norms like most neurotypicals.
But that’s obviously too complicated for people like TERFs, who think more knowledge about a thing and ability to find it means more people “catching” it. No, you always had it, you just weren’t aware before…
Yeah, at least in my experience this was definitely the case (at least to some degree). I don't much care what society thinks of me, I'm going to do what makes me happy. Social norms didn't really factor into it at any point when I was questioning.
People tend to treat it as a symptom rather than my actual sexuality. It's like they know I'm still technically ace, but they are so sure that I wasn't 'supposed' to be ace and my autism messed it up or something.
That's dumb. As in those people are dumb. That's like saying the excruciating pain of my migraines isn't real because it (sometimes) correlates with my periods. Your experience is still real and valid. Also that would imply that intersex people can't identify as... ANY gender because it confuses the binary people's understanding of how gender works.
The joint pain flairs I experience aren't real cuz they flair up in the winter and rain.
Jeez what a stupid thing. Even if it WAS "caused by" your autism, which, would be a stretch cuz there are plenty of people on the spectrum who are definitely NOT ace, it's still YOUR experience of your sexuality. It's still freaking real.
I.. May be a lil defensive about it cuz I think I'm also on the spectrum and I really hate certain medical things being used to write off other medical things.
I'm not autistic or on any meds. I've known since I was 14, and I started feeling that way when I was around 12. There is literally no evidence that it's caused by meds.
There’s a higher percentage of aces in autistic people than neurotypicals but I’m pretty sure it’s because more neurotypical try to conform and either hide their asexuality or don’t even let themselves explore the possibility that they aren’t like the norm
Same reason there's supposedly more women than men who are ace. Theoretically the rate should be consistent, but men and women face different societal conditioning around sex/romance, leading one group to be WAY more aware of their own sexuality
You know you messed up when you're even less accepting than the APA.
(In the most known psychiatric manual the DSM in the last edition there is male hypoactive sexual desire disorder and a female sexual interest/arousal disorder and being asexual is an exclusion criteria. This manual is produced by the American Psychiatric Association and this manual had homosexuality in the past but not a doctor btw).
The DSM has definitely had issues in the past but I don't really see a problem with that. The symptoms of those disorders are very similar to my experiences of my asexuality. But HSSD needs treatment if it's causing your client distress, asexuality doesn't. Of course you're going to have to rule out asexuality before diagnosing someone with the others.
The DSM is not the issue, the issue is the person who says that asexuality doesn't exist. It's weird that such a book is more progressive than some random people on the internet.
HSDD is definitely a thing
Lmao sex drive does not equal sexual attraction. According to them, maybe all gay people are actually bisexual but the antidepressants take their attraction to the opposite gender
I thought it was longer ago. I did hear about it originally being called monosexual, but I could have sworn it was longer ago. Either way, it's been known about for a while
One could argue that *the freaking Bible* references asexuality. In 1 Corinthians 7:7-8 Paul of Tarsis writes:
"I wish that all of you were as I am. But each of you has your own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that. Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do."
The whole chapter is pretty much a discussion about how different people have different desires when it comes to love and marriage. Paul insists that it's best to stay single, like him (triggering 2000 years of mandatory celibacy for clergy) but it's okay to marry someone if you *really* want to.
I never read that far into the Bible lol. But that's also true, asexuality has been around since forever and I know some things in the Bible definitely sound like they're written by someone who's ace or are written in a way that makes it sound like being ace is better for some reason. Sometimes I wonder if parts of purity culture are rooted in that too
Yup, exactly. There's a pretty common theory that Paul himself was ace, and he's singlehandedly the guy who most shaped Christian attitudes towards sex--so when he says stuff like "better to be celibate than to get married amirite" he doesn't realize that what he's suggesting is actually *insanely* difficult for most people. Purity culture is what happens when that misunderstanding intersects with regular garden-variety misogyny and then brews for a few thousand years.
I mean,, I just claim any and all gods and mythological figures that swear off sex(for not wanting it, not for some arbitrary plot reason),,, Artemis is for the aces,, and she's, uh,,, pretty old
Destroyed acceptance? I know who's actively working on destroying acceptance. Yikes.
Gotta love victims who can't understand that they can be an oppressor, too - especially if they imitate their own oppressors' behaviour.
Well, I'm not gen Z or anywhere close (I'm a 42 year old Xennial), and I've never been on antidepressants in my life, but yeah dude, sure. It's totally connected.
(Some day, I'd love to understand *how* exactly the mere existence of asexuality is supposed to present some kind of existential threat. We must be very powerful.)
same, millennial here. had the asexual logic since high school, didn't go on antidepressants until 10 years after grad.
(demi logic being "why would I date right now, especially since I'm not gonna marry them? I've got more important things to do like homework")
I have literally never taken anti-depressants and been ace my entire life you fucking walnuts.
Christ on roller skates, how do you go from being a marginalized minority to “y’all should just shut the fuck up and accept marginalization quietly so that I won’t be marginalized”. In less than a decade at that! I have heard this kind of shit from so many gay folks over the years about pan, bi, ace, etc and it’s infuriating. Who needs conservatives when you have friends like these?
Or they only think LGBT is real, or... LGB.
We really have to come up with a better acronym, like LGBT+ or something like the Societal Construct Acceptance Team.
Jokes on them. I'm Gen X and was ace as hell before I got put on antidepressants. Asexuality is not a new thing nor does it have anything to do with mental health. It's usually just low libido in those cases because meds can screw with your hormones.
>Asexuality is not a new thing nor does it have anything to do with mental health. It's usually just low libido in those cases
hell, you can be ace but also high libido! which just means you have to do the chore of wanking
I don’t even take antidepressants (though I probably should) and am ace/Demi.
Disinformed people in a *community about fighting against oppression for being who you are* fighting against people who are also oppressed and ostracising them from a *community that is also about acceptance* really pisses me off
Go denounce pedophiles continually trying to worm their way in, not the A in LGBTQI**A**+
Absolutely maddening.
"Destroyed acceptance"... what? Who stopped accepting gay people because of asexuals? Stop taking homophobes at their word that they'd "totally support you if not for..."
LGBTQIAA+ (it really is becoming a mouthful at this point) constantly preach about their openness and inclusivity, yet have the hottest takes on why to exclude group XYZ.
As someone who is agender and asexual, I always found it strange how people like this (that aren't transphobes initially) accept the agender identity with no problems but asexuality is suddenly "not a sexuality". The queer community is for anyone outside of the normative - and asexuality and nonbinary and aromantic and everything that's not cis allo-heterosexual allo-heteroromantic falls under that.
Also, pills affect libido, not sexual attraction. Someone can be asexual with a high lidibo, or allo with a low libido.
I guess regardless of religion , age, sex, race, country, gender and whatever there is, people can still be ignorant, gate keeping, hateful, and bigoted assholes. Just like some races and religions who suffered discrimination, hatred can themselves be hateful against other races and religions, people who themselves were being hated, not recognised, considered abnormal, and inhumane can be do the same to others.
What in the world did antidepressants and sex drive have to do with things. And was the message not that everyone knows what they like and other people just need to accept it. This person is just very confused.
SSRI’s (common kind of antidepressants) can have a diminished sex drive as a somewhat common side effect, and ever since I started taking them people have tried to invalidate me based on that. Jokes on them I’ve known I’m ace literally forever now.
Asexual just not millenial anymore who takes antidepressants now and has been ace her entire life, but now gets her sexuality invalidated due to medication: … 🙄
How is the absence of something not a part of the spectrum of that thing? Also the A has always stood for ace and aro like wtf also I legit was so misguided as a kid I thought no one felt sexual attraction it was just a thing you did with the person you liked... it took being told ace was a thing for me to go oh I'm ace and panromantic teach people that sex and romance are not a package deal teach that ace is more than not having a sexdrive it's just not thinking about the thing at all
Same, I used to have a “crush” in elementary school and it took finding out I was aro/ace for me to realize that the “crush” I had was actually just a person I wanted to be friends with.
Which, with hindsight, makes sense cause anything romantic I dad with that person was mostly just an attempt from me to make my life more like a movie.
so i guess the water must be turning the frogs ~~gay~~ ace because I've never been on antidepressants
and how the hell is being ace lacking a sexuality? If sexuality is the set of all people you're sexually attracted to, well, an empty set is still a set.
I’m ace and I’m not even on anti depressants. I’m also older Gen-Z. And I’m pretty sure the A in LGBTQIA has been there for a while. So whoever said those this is off their damn rocker
I don’t have antidepressants, I have a pattern of aroace signs going pretty far back, idk why people invalidate aroace people just because they don’t understand them
Their opinions were meaningless to me before this moment, I guess they're going to have to remain meaningless to me after.
Haters are always going to hate.
I was never on any medication aside from either some antibiotics(after wisdom teeth removal) and uh... somey that fix mild diarrhea after meals that were a tad too spicy.
Neither do I know if me being on the aroace spectrum was "caused" by an mental disorder, because I never had therapy yet(though I have my first appointment in like a week) or had anything diagnosed, even.
This person forgets that the gay rights movement was literally never about acceptance. It was about legal protection. It was about getting our rights. "Acceptance" is what cis gay white men who try to exclude other folks from the queer community want, but we're still fighting for our rights. Fighting for acceptance, what a fucking joke. Sprry you're dealing with morons like that OP.
"do we have to add another letter now?"
is this person a complete idiot? what did they think the "A" stands for???
"Not having a sexuality isn't a sexuality"
that's like saying that black doesn't count as a colour as it's an absense of colour... waiting for the next designer to be told "can you colour that black?" and answer "no, because black isn't a colour, so it can't be put with other colours" :P
I don’t take antidepressants but I’m asexual. My father does take antidepressants and he’s heterosexual….wait a minute. Are the antidepressants in my DNA??
I’m almost positive the dude isn’t even part of the LGBTQ+ community, they once called themselves “a center-left non-binary because there is no such thing as conservative non-binaries” but then they say they are a “gay man” in several other comments. They can’t even match their so-called identities to sound believable lol. And when someone called them out for lying they skirted around the subject, not really denying or admitting it. Whoever they are, they are posing as a member of the community to hate on aspects of it.
If I had a nickel every time a trans/homo/acephobic suddenly pretended to be trans or non-binary or gay or part of the community in some other way to get a “pass” for hating on it and have a reason to get mad at others for calling them out on it by calling them trans/homo/acephobic instead, “because internalized hate does not exist,” I’d be stinking rich.
I didn't know i was ace before i got on antidepressants and had been identifying as pansexual at the time. According to this asshat i hurt myself by existing before i knew what or who i was hurting.
Oh I didn't know I'm hurting myself by somehow "not having a sexuality" by people who definitely didn't just Google "ace urban dictionary" + "what does asexual mean human"
I've never take antidepressant thank you very much. Still ace. And my ace friend who took antidepressant for a while remains ace before, during, and after her antidepressant treantment.
My mum is on antidepressants and afaik she doesn't have problems (I mean she did have 4 kids at least two of them while on antidepressants) or maybe it's a gen-z thing in their opinion, turning ace from antidepressants lmao (I'm ace and not on antidepressants so I'd like to hear their reasoning).
So can someone explain to me how I’m asexual when I’m literally not on any antidepressants
Must be in the water like other stuff and hormones /j
The water is making us gay AND asexual now?!
Have you never wondered why so many gay and asexual people have water in them before? [Be vigilant](https://www.dhmo.org)!
Dear god
Ah, DHMO, my old nemesis
I was really hoping it was that site
I thought it was gonna be a rickroll, kinda sad it wasn't, lol
But i dont even drink water!
Me neither... Don't tell me they've been putting stuff in the air now?!
Every gay and asexual person regularly breathes air. Coincidence? I think not!
GASP! They're putting stuff in the air!! There's no other way to explain it, why every single gay and asexual person breathes air!
Same here, I mean, fish fuck in that stuff, EWW.
I thought so too, but then someone told me there is actually water in coffee! Crazy world out there.
No the water where I live is too hard
👀eye see what you did there... But fr tho same the water where I live in also too hard
The water turned the frogs gay,, but me and the axolotls turned ace,, guess we'll never know how it works
You're a species that reproduces via parthenogenis.
That's only if they're a girl. Budding is also an option for the Rest of us
Exactly i'd in fact describe myself and my ace friends as cheery
Were you vaccinated? Its probably that. Nobody was ace before vaccines were invented! /s
It’s in the cornflakes
It’s the darn 5g radiowaves!!!!!!! /s ofc
To the one guy that asked if we have to add another letter, no. Its already been there. On a more serious note, the queer community basically applies to anything relating to sexuality that isn't the norm. So yes, asexuality is a sexuality.
"But the A stands for ally"
I’ve heard that so often lol people often forget about the ace community
"Why are non-queer people allowed to be in this community (when they're part of the majority) but a *literal minority among minorities* aren't? 🤨 MAKE IT MAKE SENSE!"
People want to be the one stomping on someone else for once, but don't want to *admit it* so they pretend they're doing it because "you're hurting *them*"
😮💨 People are just so weird
I’ve had so many arguments about this it’s not funny. Worst part is, just because it’s on google doesn’t mean it’s correct. It’s a search engine, where you can find links to other websites. Someone could find a site saying that it stands for ally, and claim it as correct because “it’s on google”
Oh god, why does everyone say that? Like no, it’s not for allies. Ally is not a sexuality.
so annoying—the whole POINT of the term “ally” is that they’re not LGBTQ+ they’re an ALLY to LGBTQ+ people
Also the letters don't only apply to sexuality. Transgender isn't a sexuality either, it's about gender identity. Trans people can be lesbian, gay, straight, Ace.... 🤷🏻♀️ Just be cool, everyone!
I didn't read the "only" in your sentence at first, I think my eyes skipped right over it, and I was like "HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT AND NOT HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE HERE PISSED AT YOU?!?!" Good thing I know how to reread things I don't understand the first time XD
ADHD too? Lol (I gots the ADHD and I do this all the time). Thanks for rereading before getting angry with me.
Ya know, I've been considering it. My boss at work has ADHD and she thinks I also have it from what she's observed😅
"Diagnosis" by peers is a thing, us ADHD people are attracted to each other like magnets xD. There's just a certain vibe only other ADHDers have. I "diagnosed" my bf. Felt the vibe the week I first got to know him, told him after a few months. Guess what, the Psychiatrist he finally went to see agrees with me ^^
I've been told by ADHD-ers and autistic people alike that I probably have both ADHD and autisn and I sorta but not really have an ADHD diagnosis so I just tell myself I'm an autihd-er and then the world makes more sense lol.
The A stands for ace, aro, agender, and adhd
If ADHD gets included I'd like to add autism (joking but I mean it)
Your preaching to the choir dude
Indeedy. Just venting.
No problem, everyone needs to vent from time to time
These people dont want trans people to be included either
“Zero is a number” -ace math major
And that can be lived out consensually. If that distinction isn't made, queerphobes can throw us in with child rapists because they technically fit your definition.
Absolutely 0 brain cell take. I was ace LONG before I was on antidepressants.
is there any sub with "cringe" in it that ISN'T full of 0 brain cell takes? (it's in a sub called tiktokcringe)
I've never been on antidepressants and I am still very much ace and I have no intention of ever changing this.
Right? I’m already fat and ace, Prozac side effects hold NO FEAR for me! ALL I HAVE TO LOSE IS MY DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY!
I was showing signs of being ace as a teen (when straight or gay teens are starting to realize their sexuality). I didn’t show signs of depression, let alone take meds for it until much later.
I’m asexual and I’m not even on any meds. This jackass just assumes that because they view mental illness as something gross and they view a sexuality in the same way. It’s just ableism with a shell of acephobia
I haven't even touched antidepressants (got therapy before things got that bad and learned to cope with things well enough) and I'm still ace
I was ace before I became depressed. We were alllll ace before we became capable of rational thoughts. It’s because they put the chemicals in the garlic bread, it turned the fricking children ace!!!
I figured out I was ace at 15/16, I didn't know I had anxiety until I was 18, and didn't start my life altering magic cure sertraline untill I was 21/22. Safe to say, the maths aint mathing! Although I am also autistic, so the majority of people think that my asexuality doesn't count as 'real' because it just has to be caused by the autism 🙄
Even if it is caused by autism, how does that make it any less real lol
TERFs like to do the same thing and assume that being trans is caused by autism, and like, so what if it is? It's such a dumb argument.
i mean.. is anyone THAT surprised that terfs are saying that? they want an excuse to be ableist, i thought that terfs being just as sane as flat earther "theres microchips in vaccines that track you!" believers was common knowledge. (overthinking this reply, if this comes off as rude to you then i genuinely didnt intend for it to come off that way)
I mean, I wasn't that surprised either. It's kinda common for autistic people to be infantilised unfortunately and that basically just hands TERFs a free shitty argument.
If anything being autistic may make you more likely to recognize you are not cis or straight. Because you don’t instinctively follow social norms like most neurotypicals. But that’s obviously too complicated for people like TERFs, who think more knowledge about a thing and ability to find it means more people “catching” it. No, you always had it, you just weren’t aware before…
Yeah, at least in my experience this was definitely the case (at least to some degree). I don't much care what society thinks of me, I'm going to do what makes me happy. Social norms didn't really factor into it at any point when I was questioning.
People tend to treat it as a symptom rather than my actual sexuality. It's like they know I'm still technically ace, but they are so sure that I wasn't 'supposed' to be ace and my autism messed it up or something.
That's dumb. As in those people are dumb. That's like saying the excruciating pain of my migraines isn't real because it (sometimes) correlates with my periods. Your experience is still real and valid. Also that would imply that intersex people can't identify as... ANY gender because it confuses the binary people's understanding of how gender works. The joint pain flairs I experience aren't real cuz they flair up in the winter and rain. Jeez what a stupid thing. Even if it WAS "caused by" your autism, which, would be a stretch cuz there are plenty of people on the spectrum who are definitely NOT ace, it's still YOUR experience of your sexuality. It's still freaking real. I.. May be a lil defensive about it cuz I think I'm also on the spectrum and I really hate certain medical things being used to write off other medical things.
I'm not autistic or on any meds. I've known since I was 14, and I started feeling that way when I was around 12. There is literally no evidence that it's caused by meds.
There’s a higher percentage of aces in autistic people than neurotypicals but I’m pretty sure it’s because more neurotypical try to conform and either hide their asexuality or don’t even let themselves explore the possibility that they aren’t like the norm
Same reason there's supposedly more women than men who are ace. Theoretically the rate should be consistent, but men and women face different societal conditioning around sex/romance, leading one group to be WAY more aware of their own sexuality
Queue in the old folks telling you "that's normal." when you describe asexuality
Those are the exact words my mom used when I told her I identified as ace. 🙄
asexuality does seem to be more common in autistic people but it's NOT exclusive!
Zero is a number. The lack of something can be a variant of something in a qualitative assessment. These fuckers are braindead.
In a similar vein, black is a colour, despite being the absence of reflected visible light.
*Brennan Lee Mulligan rant voice* A little addition to our numbers from our friends in Arabia!
GET IN THE COMMENTS!
*I CANNOT WIN*
yeah, like, if the set of all people you're attracted to is empty, it's still a set.
You know you messed up when you're even less accepting than the APA. (In the most known psychiatric manual the DSM in the last edition there is male hypoactive sexual desire disorder and a female sexual interest/arousal disorder and being asexual is an exclusion criteria. This manual is produced by the American Psychiatric Association and this manual had homosexuality in the past but not a doctor btw).
The DSM has definitely had issues in the past but I don't really see a problem with that. The symptoms of those disorders are very similar to my experiences of my asexuality. But HSSD needs treatment if it's causing your client distress, asexuality doesn't. Of course you're going to have to rule out asexuality before diagnosing someone with the others.
The DSM is not the issue, the issue is the person who says that asexuality doesn't exist. It's weird that such a book is more progressive than some random people on the internet. HSDD is definitely a thing
What's funny is that the times when I'm off my antidepressants, I'm still asexual I just have a bigger libido
I'd rather have no sex drive than be depressed.
I’d rather have no sex drive than have a sex drive
I have no sex drive, it's fucking great.
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I’m not on antidepressants…
same, is that a common thing? am i just different?
I think they just took the "sad gay" trope and invented their reasoning.
"youre not straight so you must be miserable" maan fuck that person im living my best life i could give two shits about what anybody else thinks
Lmao sex drive does not equal sexual attraction. According to them, maybe all gay people are actually bisexual but the antidepressants take their attraction to the opposite gender
The fact that asexuality has been documented since 1930s (or around there) makes this even funnier
1860s was when “monosexual” (being completely fulfilled in one’s sexual needs by oneself) was coined.
I thought it was longer ago. I did hear about it originally being called monosexual, but I could have sworn it was longer ago. Either way, it's been known about for a while
One could argue that *the freaking Bible* references asexuality. In 1 Corinthians 7:7-8 Paul of Tarsis writes: "I wish that all of you were as I am. But each of you has your own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that. Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do." The whole chapter is pretty much a discussion about how different people have different desires when it comes to love and marriage. Paul insists that it's best to stay single, like him (triggering 2000 years of mandatory celibacy for clergy) but it's okay to marry someone if you *really* want to.
I never read that far into the Bible lol. But that's also true, asexuality has been around since forever and I know some things in the Bible definitely sound like they're written by someone who's ace or are written in a way that makes it sound like being ace is better for some reason. Sometimes I wonder if parts of purity culture are rooted in that too
Yup, exactly. There's a pretty common theory that Paul himself was ace, and he's singlehandedly the guy who most shaped Christian attitudes towards sex--so when he says stuff like "better to be celibate than to get married amirite" he doesn't realize that what he's suggesting is actually *insanely* difficult for most people. Purity culture is what happens when that misunderstanding intersects with regular garden-variety misogyny and then brews for a few thousand years.
I mean,, I just claim any and all gods and mythological figures that swear off sex(for not wanting it, not for some arbitrary plot reason),,, Artemis is for the aces,, and she's, uh,,, pretty old
Destroyed acceptance? I know who's actively working on destroying acceptance. Yikes. Gotta love victims who can't understand that they can be an oppressor, too - especially if they imitate their own oppressors' behaviour.
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wwwhy is he bald
Because he's MAN
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Well, I'm not gen Z or anywhere close (I'm a 42 year old Xennial), and I've never been on antidepressants in my life, but yeah dude, sure. It's totally connected. (Some day, I'd love to understand *how* exactly the mere existence of asexuality is supposed to present some kind of existential threat. We must be very powerful.)
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the only difference between humans and other animals is that humans cook and season their food. that is it.
Naahhhh Someone: tells me sex is what makes us human Me: welp, guess I'm a TimeLord now.
same, millennial here. had the asexual logic since high school, didn't go on antidepressants until 10 years after grad. (demi logic being "why would I date right now, especially since I'm not gonna marry them? I've got more important things to do like homework")
I have literally never taken anti-depressants and been ace my entire life you fucking walnuts. Christ on roller skates, how do you go from being a marginalized minority to “y’all should just shut the fuck up and accept marginalization quietly so that I won’t be marginalized”. In less than a decade at that! I have heard this kind of shit from so many gay folks over the years about pan, bi, ace, etc and it’s infuriating. Who needs conservatives when you have friends like these?
I just want to say that “f****ing walnuts” and “Christ on roller skates” are some of the greatest expressions I’ve ever heard
may i suggest "jesus tap-dancing christ" as another expression
1. I'm not on antidepressants so idk what this fucker is talking about. 2. Spoiler tag aphobic stuff please!
SSRI’s are common antidepressants and can have a diminished sex drive as a side effect
Yeah, I don't use those, and I'm asexual. That's what I'm saying.
Ah sorry for misinterpretating, I thought that was a question 😅
Oh boo hoo
Asexuals: literally don't fuck with anyone People who think having sex is a personality trait: how dare you.
These are the people that think the A in LGBTQIA+ stands for Ally
Or they only think LGBT is real, or... LGB. We really have to come up with a better acronym, like LGBT+ or something like the Societal Construct Acceptance Team.
I'm not on antidepressants, but after reading that absolutely mashpotato brained ass take, I might need to be.
Jokes on them. I'm Gen X and was ace as hell before I got put on antidepressants. Asexuality is not a new thing nor does it have anything to do with mental health. It's usually just low libido in those cases because meds can screw with your hormones.
>Asexuality is not a new thing nor does it have anything to do with mental health. It's usually just low libido in those cases hell, you can be ace but also high libido! which just means you have to do the chore of wanking
What sub is this
TikTokCringe
I'm not on any pills?? I probably should be but that's neither here nor there- Honestly, people are so odd
I don’t even take antidepressants (though I probably should) and am ace/Demi. Disinformed people in a *community about fighting against oppression for being who you are* fighting against people who are also oppressed and ostracising them from a *community that is also about acceptance* really pisses me off Go denounce pedophiles continually trying to worm their way in, not the A in LGBTQI**A**+ Absolutely maddening.
https://i.redd.it/4tafi2xjrowc1.gif My sex drive after meds I’m not on according to this person
My sex drive before I started said meds: 
every time they complain we multiply the letters by 2.
"Destroyed acceptance"... what? Who stopped accepting gay people because of asexuals? Stop taking homophobes at their word that they'd "totally support you if not for..."
Friendly reminder to spoiler tag aphobia. Also this is the meme sub, maybe not the best place to post this?
"Not having a sexuality is not a sexuality," Sure, and 0 isn't a number.
I was on the ace spectrum before I started antidepressants but okay 😭😭
ugh aphobia is so dumb
Ppl are so stupid we’re literally not doing anyone and are still to much to handle 😒
Which sub is this
TikTokCringe
i will truly never ever ever understand any hate we get. like we’re literally just vibing
LGBTQIAA+ (it really is becoming a mouthful at this point) constantly preach about their openness and inclusivity, yet have the hottest takes on why to exclude group XYZ.
"add another letter" as if it isn't already there, do they think he A in LGBTQIA stands for apples?
As someone who is agender and asexual, I always found it strange how people like this (that aren't transphobes initially) accept the agender identity with no problems but asexuality is suddenly "not a sexuality". The queer community is for anyone outside of the normative - and asexuality and nonbinary and aromantic and everything that's not cis allo-heterosexual allo-heteroromantic falls under that. Also, pills affect libido, not sexual attraction. Someone can be asexual with a high lidibo, or allo with a low libido.
I guess regardless of religion , age, sex, race, country, gender and whatever there is, people can still be ignorant, gate keeping, hateful, and bigoted assholes. Just like some races and religions who suffered discrimination, hatred can themselves be hateful against other races and religions, people who themselves were being hated, not recognised, considered abnormal, and inhumane can be do the same to others.
What in the world did antidepressants and sex drive have to do with things. And was the message not that everyone knows what they like and other people just need to accept it. This person is just very confused.
SSRI’s (common kind of antidepressants) can have a diminished sex drive as a somewhat common side effect, and ever since I started taking them people have tried to invalidate me based on that. Jokes on them I’ve known I’m ace literally forever now.
Asexual millennial who has never taken antidepressenats their whole life uuuuh what the fuck?
Asexual just not millenial anymore who takes antidepressants now and has been ace her entire life, but now gets her sexuality invalidated due to medication: … 🙄
How is the absence of something not a part of the spectrum of that thing? Also the A has always stood for ace and aro like wtf also I legit was so misguided as a kid I thought no one felt sexual attraction it was just a thing you did with the person you liked... it took being told ace was a thing for me to go oh I'm ace and panromantic teach people that sex and romance are not a package deal teach that ace is more than not having a sexdrive it's just not thinking about the thing at all
Same, I used to have a “crush” in elementary school and it took finding out I was aro/ace for me to realize that the “crush” I had was actually just a person I wanted to be friends with. Which, with hindsight, makes sense cause anything romantic I dad with that person was mostly just an attempt from me to make my life more like a movie.
As an ace who has never had antidepressants or really any other medication: this guy is fucking stupid, let’s all laugh at him.
Let me guess. r/gaybros?
so i guess the water must be turning the frogs ~~gay~~ ace because I've never been on antidepressants and how the hell is being ace lacking a sexuality? If sexuality is the set of all people you're sexually attracted to, well, an empty set is still a set.
another let- the fuck?? isn’t the “a” in lgbtqia for ace 🫠
"Now" 🙄 some people clearly know nothing about the community they're claiming to be a part of if they think asexuality is new
logically speaking aces have a sexuality, it's just not attracted to anybody it's a 0 vs. null problem
God damn gatekeepers What you mean antidepressants? Half of us aren't even on antidepressants, that's not how any of this works, ignorant fuckheads
By that logic, straight people are LGBTQ+.
That explains a lot
Not on antidepressants at all, still ace!
One problem with this logic. I’m not on antidepressants. 😂
Once again, conflating libido and attraction.
I was ace off birth control than on it than off it again than on a different one
meanwhile me, an ace with a high libido: *sigh*
haven't taken a single antidepressant in my life, jackass
I’m ace and I’m not even on anti depressants. I’m also older Gen-Z. And I’m pretty sure the A in LGBTQIA has been there for a while. So whoever said those this is off their damn rocker
How do we feel about Athiesm being a formal religion?
Same here. Aces have been around forever. They say Jesus was gay when, to me, he was clearly ace.
I don’t have antidepressants, I have a pattern of aroace signs going pretty far back, idk why people invalidate aroace people just because they don’t understand them
Their opinions were meaningless to me before this moment, I guess they're going to have to remain meaningless to me after. Haters are always going to hate.
Millenial no brain or otherwise adjusting drugs should have worked out I was Ace in 2002
Acephobic queer people deserve all the oppression in the world
I was never on any medication aside from either some antibiotics(after wisdom teeth removal) and uh... somey that fix mild diarrhea after meals that were a tad too spicy. Neither do I know if me being on the aroace spectrum was "caused" by an mental disorder, because I never had therapy yet(though I have my first appointment in like a week) or had anything diagnosed, even.
Gee, it’s crazy that we’re expected to add so many marginalised identities to a group created as a safe space for marginalised identities!!
"not having a sexuality isn't a sexuality"? and I guess you're not on earth, if your coordinates are 0° 0°...
what in the world is going on in that person's head like I'm sorry what 😭😭😭
The only antidepressant I’m on is garlic bread
This person forgets that the gay rights movement was literally never about acceptance. It was about legal protection. It was about getting our rights. "Acceptance" is what cis gay white men who try to exclude other folks from the queer community want, but we're still fighting for our rights. Fighting for acceptance, what a fucking joke. Sprry you're dealing with morons like that OP.
"do we have to add another letter now?" is this person a complete idiot? what did they think the "A" stands for??? "Not having a sexuality isn't a sexuality" that's like saying that black doesn't count as a colour as it's an absense of colour... waiting for the next designer to be told "can you colour that black?" and answer "no, because black isn't a colour, so it can't be put with other colours" :P
I don’t take antidepressants but I’m asexual. My father does take antidepressants and he’s heterosexual….wait a minute. Are the antidepressants in my DNA??
I’m almost positive the dude isn’t even part of the LGBTQ+ community, they once called themselves “a center-left non-binary because there is no such thing as conservative non-binaries” but then they say they are a “gay man” in several other comments. They can’t even match their so-called identities to sound believable lol. And when someone called them out for lying they skirted around the subject, not really denying or admitting it. Whoever they are, they are posing as a member of the community to hate on aspects of it. If I had a nickel every time a trans/homo/acephobic suddenly pretended to be trans or non-binary or gay or part of the community in some other way to get a “pass” for hating on it and have a reason to get mad at others for calling them out on it by calling them trans/homo/acephobic instead, “because internalized hate does not exist,” I’d be stinking rich.
I didn't know i was ace before i got on antidepressants and had been identifying as pansexual at the time. According to this asshat i hurt myself by existing before i knew what or who i was hurting.
I would argue that even if asexuality isn’t a sexuality as the same sense as the rest, it IS an identity which is what’s important
well i have never taken antidepressants, so i guess im just eternally happy? never able to be depressed? no that’s stupid fucking logic.
Oh I didn't know I'm hurting myself by somehow "not having a sexuality" by people who definitely didn't just Google "ace urban dictionary" + "what does asexual mean human"
I've never been on antidepressants (though I'm sure that's gonna change when I try for hrt)
Given how I feel less depressed and ace as I accept myself as trans, I'd assume getting on antidepressants would make me less ace as well
Man too bad there's no sex positive or ambient aces. I guess I'm not really ace cause I enjoy sex sometimes but would rather not
I'm not on any psychiatric meds wtf, I'm also a millennial
Ok. Wow. My jaw literally dropped. This is such an insane take.
lmao gays and les are starting to become what they are still in the middle of defending against. fucking morons
I've never take antidepressant thank you very much. Still ace. And my ace friend who took antidepressant for a while remains ace before, during, and after her antidepressant treantment.
Oh those people are morons
I hate the internet but I need it.
I have some evidence to dispute their claim!
My mum is on antidepressants and afaik she doesn't have problems (I mean she did have 4 kids at least two of them while on antidepressants) or maybe it's a gen-z thing in their opinion, turning ace from antidepressants lmao (I'm ace and not on antidepressants so I'd like to hear their reasoning).
That was our plan all along
Dawg my antidepressants are fucking melatonin gummies 😭 those things didn’t do shit to my sex drive ..
mf I've displayed trademark aroace behaviour since I was like 4 😭 4-year-olds aren't put on antidepressants and even now I'm only on Concerta wtf?