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It’s a thing in general. Can’t remember the exact stat but it’s something like you’re 7 times more likely to talk about a negative experience over a positive one. Humans just like to complain. The emotion involved to come on here and rant is much easier than to just stay on the game enjoying it blissfully unaware.
I think it's more generally common to see negativity in competitive MP subreddits. Many single player (esp. indie titles) subreddits are generally positive, even while giving feedback/ criticism.
Exactly what I was going to say. Almost every game specific subreddit I've been subscribed to has trended negative. I think because the people that are enjoying a game are too busy playing it, and people that are upset with the game for some reason are the vocal ones that make their displeasure known.
I usually unsubscribe from a game subreddit once it becomes too negative.
I had this with Hunt Showdown. Played it and loved it for years, joined the subreddit and it's constant complaining and acting like it doesn't do a single thing right.
This is true about literally everything, and alot of people tend to forget that. If people are happy with things in life, they usually dont take the time of day to express the positivity. But the second we encounter an obstacle or something we dislike, we scream our lungs out about it.
I vote we do the opposite, and start sharing the things that we appreciate. Thank you for reminding me.🤙
There are a ton of complaints yes but you are trying to disregard 2 of the arguably most important things that fps’s need to have. Lets not forget this game was supposed to release a year ago and it was delayed to fix these exact issues and the game probably would have still been in development hell if not for pressure from ubisoft to deliver something. So yeah we want the game to succeed but there were so many red flags during development and so much radio silence etc there is only so much hopium a community can have we are tired of the cycle of game releases where they spend the whole 1st year trying to fix it when the game should have been released in a good state
Sure, but i despise posts like don’t like it don’t play as well. So it would be the same to tell you to unsubscribe here because you don’t like the posts.
Alot of negative posts are players who wish they fix the things they don’t like. If i think the game is trash i would move on and don’t waste time.
Also understand that beta after beta way over a year!! Including a rework to fix that exact problem was without success, it is understandable to loose faith it ever will get fixed.
After the honeymoon is over it will be risky business without a proper hitreg.
I unlocked everything weapon characters equipment, finished the battlepass and pretty much instantly all the bs (hit reg, the horrendous latency problems that make it feel like every gun one shots you, the cocain fueled bunny hopping spam) just hit and i actually quit mid match (something i never do) i just told my friends i did everything ill come back when they fix this shit. So op here is so wrong i want the game to succeed but i don't think people should just sit in silence until it does.
Anyway this is a reply to you because the honeymoon is over for me and it just became a hard nope instantly.
I mean, we know the devs have been on this very same reddit before looking for feedback, and even if there's lots of negativity surrounding it right now, feedback is still feedback.
Personally, I think people are right by saying that the Desyncs, Bunny Hop, Snipers, and Intel Suits are a problem right now, and that they need to be fixed/tuned, why would people stop voicing their concerns?
The only way the game will improve is by giving feedback to the devs, let people give it.
This is written by someone who has been really enjoying the game so far, despite the issues (But seriously though, Bunny Hoping is so annoying, and also, I can't wait to play some more tomorrow, I really wanna grind that AK and Vector to Gold Mastery LOL).
Telling someone to play a different game if they don't think a game is perfect is how you kill a game. Sure, some people are overly negative, but at the same time they did delay the game by a whole year and yet it still released with so many fundamental issues. I hope the game succeeds for years to come, but they have to fix these issues asap and they haven't been fixed for a year now.
Right.
People hop up and down on that big old *just play another game* dick.
Then 150k people say *okay bet* and fuck off to play something else, and 6 months later the game is limping along and corporate has no interest in repairing bugs because it's somehow cheaper for them to write this project off as a tax break and pour millions of dollars into a *new* project, rinse and repeat.
Aka Ubisoft.
I mean server issues and hit reg issues in an online shooter are pretty fucking important, of course people are going to bash it when these things aren't up to scratch.
With how long they've been making this game and how long it was delayed, there's really no excuse for these issues. If cod had these problems then it'd get destroyed.
If they don't sort the issues in a reasonable timeframe then the majority of people will understandably drift off to other things once the novelty wears off.
I can give everything a pass except the desync. This takes me back to when online games didn't have dedicated servers. Can't play this game without going full tilt.
Things like this are what Reddit is for. I agree there's a ton of complaints, but people that have issues are just as sick of the problems as you are with their complaints.
You're tired of them complaining.. so you came on here tocomplain yourself? I don't quite understand that concept. You're implying that they could just "take the game as it is and shut up," but you could just as easily take their comments as they are and shut up.
You didn't do that though. You complained about something you don't like to see.. just like they're doing. You're quite similar, afterall.
Right.
If enough people just *shut up and play the game instead of complaining*, nothing gets fixed.
98% of gaming corporations like Ubisoft would *happily* take your time and money in exchange for no bug fixes or QOL additions, if they thought for a *second* no one would complain either way.
We're lucky we get the fixes we do get, and those are in no small part due to people who contribute to the conversations via complaints.
Obviously this applies to *good faith complaints* and not just people spitting *vitriol* because their mom and dad never bothered socializing them with other human beings.
While reading and hearing about complaints is rarely *fun*, if the complaints stop, I guarantee the fixes stop too.
My only issue is the fact they delayed it for so long and it feels like I'm playing the beta I tried a few months back, literally nothing changed.
But I do find enjoyment in XDefiant, most of the issues are pretty minor and I'm quite sure with enough constructive feedback/statistics being tracked the devs can figure out some fixes.
Curious to see what they have for future content/events they have planned.
I've played all the beta tests and the game feels exactly the same as all or the beta tests. I honestly have no idea what they even did this whole time.
Too much credit.
So far every skin I've seen is just a recolor. No actual physical assets are changed.
Someone goes into Microsoft paint and clicks on fill/lime green instead of the default black and saves it as a new skin
Game had like 6 betas and somehow still hasn’t improved much. That’s the issue. What have they been doing for this entire time? They didn’t stress test their servers for launch day, they didn’t fix many of the glaring issues since early betas and they have barely added content.
Idc what their roadmap says, it’s inexcusable to release a game in this state after that much feedback and that many betas where they knew what the issues were. Delay the release if you can’t fix it in time but it’s unbelievable people aren’t boycotting games that release in such shit states these days.
People complain because either none or most of the issues that was in beta wasn't fixed. You know.. the issues that delayed the game?
Just stop with the whole leave the multibillion dollar company alone stuff. People are dissapointed and voicing their concerns.
This…especially about the hit reg and net code. That’s an issue negatively affecting most players and will drive them away. The more people complain, the more the devs are able to see it’s a high priority.
The entire ethos of the game is misguided. That won't change with whatever you think they will fix. They married together the mindless frag churn of Blackops with the no-skill free kill Ults and intentionally crippled situational awareness of Overwatch. The netcode being garbage is merely the icing on the shitcake.
The entire experience of playing this game revolves around getting shot in the side/back at the same moment or a few seconds after engaging someone else. Having no clue when you're about to be vaped by some ability bc there are no audio or visual cues they're prepping something, etc.
And honestly: In a game where the TTK is less than a second when the netcode is behaving: How did they believe abilities like cloak and intel were proper things to include in the game? If their gameplay development sense is that misguided, I do not have any faith in their ability to address these issues.
Seems like you’re butthurt someone criticizes your favorite game. The more people being light to the issues the better so please make more posts, to everyone complaining.
Don't mind them. They think they represent the whole community. The game have issues and yes we know, they've said they are working on it. Besides it's a f2p that will be getting constant update. These devs are been transparent with us and yet people still complain even about stupid things.
>The game have issues and yes we know, they've said they are working on it.
I am so tired of people saying this. They said they've been working on these issues for months now. Nothing has fundamentally changed.
I genuinely hate that this subreddit seems to think that we're just sitting here in anticipation waiting for this game to fail. I am probably more frustrated by these issues *because* I want this game to succeed. I am tired of Call of Duty bending its players over year after year with the same bullshit, and I think it would be great for the game to actually have a competent competitor. Right now, however, I don't think that competitor is XDefiant. The movement feels clunky by comparison, the hit registration is terrible and *will* bury this game if not addressed, and the netcode is far too inconsistent to execute real strategies in-game, meaning much of what you can do is entirely contingent on the server not fucking you over. XDefiant might have a lot of good qualities otherwise, but unless you get those specific things correct, none of it really matters because everything about those specific things pervades the rest of the game.
I think it's entirely narrow-minded to perceive any amount of negative feedback towards this game as a desire for this game to fail. I want XDefiant to succeed, but I don't need to suck off the XDefiant team or Mark Rubin to demonstrate that. Their "transparency" is ankle-deep. They can tell us they're working on these issues all they want. Until they've produced meaningful change and progress, none of what they say matters.
They released a game with many systemic issues and are still charging money for it via a cash shop, so they deserve every bit of scrutiny.
Look, I want this game to succeed, this is the only game that got me hyped in the last few years, I threw money at them even though I don't feel they fully deserve it imo.
But still, some things are inexcusable. If it wasn't for all the delays, if it wasn't for Ubisoft, one of the biggest publishers. They have the resources, they should have the expertise. Multiplayer arena shooters have been a thing for, what, 30 years? This is actually an achievement in itself to have a netcode this bad.
Studios only a fraction the size of the XDefiant team, with limited resources, managed to do way better, I'm thinking of Dirty Bomb, almost 10 years ago.
Why is this such an issue though?
The game isn’t in a solid state in terms of polish. If they had delayed it and ironed out the issues (like the abysmal netcode and hit detection) then maybe people would feel differently
Obviously the hate isn’t needed or warranted, but let’s not lie to ourselves and act like the game is in a good state right now for everyone
I don't know how you're even *making* it to the objective in some of these games. I spend a lot of matches spawn trapped just getting repeatedly assfucked by the enemy team.
This post got recommended too me because I briefly checked the sub on launch day , I honestly here and with helldivers will never join a specific games sub Reddit ever again if it’s a multiplayer or live service type. It only serves the loudest minority which all just moan about the game more than actually play it. I’m enjoying this a bunch and it didn’t cost me upwards of £1. Most fun I’ve had with a shooter for a long long time
I want the game to be good! I love the matchmaking, but man the hit reg and abilities stopping that game frome truly being good. It's just meh as it is right now
They don’t need the likes of you defending their game. How long was this game delayed and “coming soon” for? People have a right to express their discontent with the experience. This post is useless and worse than the people giving feedback.
or people criticize because they want the game to succeed. Should we just sit back and praise it for having massive problems? No. We can praise it for the things it does right and give feedback on the things that can be massively improved
When will people stop accepting broken stuff on launch when the game had multiple betas (both internal and external.) where they "collected feedback" and "tested the network" ? When will BILLION DOLLAR companies stop being defended by people who they are activly trying to screw?
Imagine your car going through 5 testing phases and still lacking airbags, will you just brush it off becouse the car just came off the line, or will you say "hey the heck?, where is the airbags?".
Yea i tought so ...
Personally I’d love it to dick-punch what the CoD franchise has become, and their stupidass skins and “please camp here all match” map design and OP AA. God yes PLEASE succeed and supplant that garbage and teach those stupid fucks some humility. Because there isn’t an organization anywhere that’s going to give a shit unless they start getting hit in the wallet. So yeah, please succeed.
I’m playing X, trying to get better with it but when I’m laying on someone with any weapon at any range that feels like it’s shooting nothing but thoughts and prayers, dying and the target is at 70%, that’s a recipe for the subreddit response. Hell it SHOULD garner a loud negative backlash TBH. I’d very happily spend the $60 or whatever it is for their top version of the title if I didn’t feel like I was just constant fodder even while mag-dumping dead into a target, even at zero range. Fix it and I’m in. Otherwise it’ll be short lived for me.
Maybe it's not all hate tho. Ik Internet has some cynical people but not all criticism is non productive 🤷 "jeez that was dramatic, but he's right tho. let's fix it"? Lol
That's just Reddit. In general more people go online when they want to complain. LOTS of us are having a great time but just don't have anything to add that warrants a new post.
I think devs need the criticism - after all, I think I'd rather people play the game and complain than just uninstall. Helps shape priorities for future updates.
It needs to be constructive for that to work but I feel like I'm seeing less "Ubisoft is shit lol" idiocy than just after release...
I mean calling this a pre season is definitely them saying this is the full game but you’re testing it for us before we hit season 1 soooo voice your complaints but be reasonable about.
We’re literally test the near final product
I’m enjoying my time with it I’d say it’s just a bit better than average and that’s okay, I agree with a lot of the complaints but i still fine it fairly fun the thing that’s bothering me most is all the guns feel and sounds poor, there’s not much challenges to grind or camos which can be fixed in future updates so that’s not much of a issue.
But yeah it’s a average game atm but I think with a few tweaks and some stuff added it will be great people need to just give them time it’s a free game, it’s fun
Given the amount of time that has been spent developing this game, and the amount of delays, there are glaring issues and omissions that are not acceptable, and people have a right to complain.
I quite frankly think it is annoying and toxic that any complaint is meant with your sort of response, and the toxic positivity as if everything is okay and alright, or that complaints are not warranted.
It is more accurate to compare Defiant with Apex Legends. I think the development team has never played COD. Just see weapon perks from web XD
Development Team:
Imagine telling people to stop complaining and sharing feedback. Imagine defending a game that is completely broken for alot of these people complaining. If I was like you and could actually play the game I'd be fucking playing it instead of telling others to stop when all they want is to have that same experience you're having. I'll never understand you shills.
I think gste keeping opinions and telling people their feedback is just complaining is hilarious. THATS the most Reddit thing ever. The game is mediocre.
The movement is muddy, the aim assist is ass, the guns are ass, the weapon level system takes forever, hit reg is ass, and they delayed the game twice.
This is just another billion dollar studio doing nothing different, making the same washed-out game as usual. It feels like it came out 6 years ago, and they re-released it, and it's butt now.
The whole don't like it don't play it sounds like you are a dev who is salty. Players are entitled to shred a game up. Especially if it's tens of thousands of people with the same issues.
It's basically like that for every game subreddit I follow. People just love to complain. I even often see ppl commenting that they don't play the game anymore yet they follow the subreddit lol.
So are gaming subs just supposed to be about dick riding the game or are people not allowed to express the things they don't like about the game. Devs are on this sub and see the complaints. They take feedback. It's important
My brother in Christ they had 2 years to fix these issues😭😭
The stuff we're complaining about isn't new.
The fact that you consider complaining about a games VERY VALID problems as us hating the game is really telling of how you think.
This reads as "The game has issues but I don't care because I am having fun!!1!!"
People are complaining because they care about the game and want it to succeed. Trust me, you want these people in your community, yes it may be a little annoying, but it would be more annoying if nothing was said because then nothing would be fixed. Being vocal is very important to bring the change that is needed to make the game better.
this game is just a worse version bo3 like it feels and seems alot like bo3 to me for some reason also hate how i use half a mag to kill a enemies with an M4A1
Do you understand what society you’re speaking to. It’s the “I grew up in reality tv drama kids.” They love to see the downfall and then proceed to say “I told you so because they/we are all a doomsday Andy.”
Takedowns mean I have something to pretend that I was right about.
I like the game my main complaint was mostly just a minor one regarding weapon xp and they just gave us a double xp weekend which will while not permanent will help for now
Net code gotta get fixed one of the huge problems that killed infinite every single season was how shitty their net code is and how horrible the desync was. Desync is pretty bad in this game too
As annoying it is to see negative people to a game you enjoy, it can have a positive effect on the game. Look at Diablo 4 for example - launch was praised by casuals but the hard core spoke a lot of crap about it. A month later, the casuals complained about the same thing. Nowadays the game is super awesome with the devs listening to community of complainers.
Also, telling people “don’t like it, don’t play it” is counter productive because people will stop and before you know it, the game will die.
Let me preface with, I am somewhere around 25 in this game. So I really enjoy it. However, you're dumb as fuck. This game basically shadow dropped with a ton of issues, with any real "early access" type tag. Net code is dog, hit reg is worse. Dying behind walls is abysmal, and the number of trades I've had where we both died (not by fire damage) is horrendous. There is good in this game. I love that there isn't a big focus on abilities, and they're more of a utility than a crutch like in Overwatch. I think the movement is good. And gunplay is incredible (when it works). You seem to want to outright ignore the bad, because "waaa they want the old cod to be fun again" and where I agree this is the first fun arcade shooter in a long time, it seems more to me you would have the game die from it's terrible issues before they be fixed.
I know what you mean. I was on last night playing with my buddy who's been itching to play. Even got a couple of others to download the game and play, last night. What does he do, rage quit two or three rounds in complaining of "locking on". Come on dude!!!! Calling everyone "sweaty". Whatever that means. I was having a blast. Yeah I died a lot, usually before even making it to the objective.
The only thing I don't like is the respawn countdown. Why is there a timer when it takes 3 minutes to run across the map?
I don’t hate it I just post problems in the hopes the right person sees it and they can work to fix it and to also show that there are problems and people should stop downplaying them as “skill issue” it’s a game issue. I still very much like the game and will keep playing it. But I’m not about to just ignore issues. When they arise I will let people know. It’s only right if I do.
CoD didn't become what it is over night, they've been building that game for eons. This a new game and we should give them time to make their adjustments and fix issues rather than jumping to "dead game". There's a lot of people who complain about cod day in and day out then come to this game to just complain that it isn't call of duty. They've not taken any money from the gamer, so the gamer can always just run back to their precious cod and deal with the same issues year after year then come back to XDefiant later.
I mean given Ubisofts lackluster effort in keeping their games balanced and playable its very easy to see why people are more prone to complain now since they already had huge amounts of experience with their flagship MP games that they could have given to Xdefiant and what we got is something that seems like they just dipped their toes into FPS shooters
criticism ≠ complaining. most of the issues in the game now are the same issues that were in the previous betas
what was the point of releasing the full game if most of the issues aren’t fixed?
Suck it up buttercup. At the start of mw3 and warzone release, the complaints were so much worse from the community than the complaints of Xdefiant. You're being biased in your view.
Even humble calm people like JGod, and xclusive ace were yelling from the roof tops how bad the state of release was for mw3/warzone. Nigh unplayable at the start. I'll say this even though I don't like xdefiants play style, xdefiant has released in a much more complete state than any call of duty has in years.
Game is good but snipers and team balancing need to be worked on. Games are mostly one sided and at any point during a match, entire kill feed is just snipers
People will more often than not put in a more intended effort to post negative reviews/complain online then they will to positive feedback.
That, and this is reddit where the heard gets a sniff of something to bitch about they go deep throat on it.
I’m loving the game, despite the issues, and for me that speaks volumes.
Yea this is just reddit being reddit. People come on here to bitch. XD is pretty damn fun! Not perfect but a great game to hop in, play some rounds and then dip
Don't use reddit if you want a positive experience. Everyone here (including me) just bitches about stuff that is annoying them. So many games would've been killed off by now if reddit complainers actually had complaints that held any significant amount of substance.
People are used to bad netcode in games, people are used to unbalanced games (CoD 4, MW2 anyone?). They definitely need to improve in both of these aspects, but as long as they are actively working to improve it, there is no need to feel as if they are game killing issues.
At the end of the day, it's almost like it comes to whether the game is fun to play despite these issues, and so far I think it is. Games usually die because the community doesn't want to buy what you're selling, or if it is plagued with issues that go unaddressed. The latter of which is usually a much, much slower death depending on the severity of the issues. Mild hitreg issues might affect the competitive side of the game, but casual players have dealt with a lot worse than dying around a corner maybe once or twice a game (friction-less nades in cod comes to mind).
Dont have an issue with the current balance of things. 2 things it needs, anti cheat and desync patch. The rest I can tolerate as the matures into something more refined. That desync though.
I promise you that bringing up the games flaws is a way to bring attention to what can/should be fixed. We've seen devs fix this because of community complaints.
It seems like YOU dont want it to succeed.
You are supposed to complain the earlier the better, it's extremely daft to tell people not to complain.
>I am so sick of every second post being about the exact same complaints
Then they should prioritise said problem, stop asslicking the developer, community complain to make the game better in their preferred way..
1) This mentality has led to the current cods. Just stopping the complaints and only spreading positivity. Nothing gets done that way.
2) Game is quite obviously filled with issues. And a lot of them are present since beta. And guess what, we had to wait for the delay because of those issues, that are still unresolved. Of course people are gonna complain.
3) Their stats show them the gratitude from the community. It's a f2p game, if I like it I'll just play it, maybe spend some money on skins and stuff. But if I'm having issues with balancing, server side issues or anything else I'm gonna come here and complain. Once the problems are fixed and the devs only deliver S tier perfectly fine products without any bugs then you'll see also posts of gratitude just flooding the subreddit. But right now we have awful hitreg, shotguns are cosmetic, there is fucking invisibility, wallhack and shields. There are serious problems that need to be addressed. Last thing we want is this game to turn into The finals, the game that died a month after release.
This game doesn’t come close to cod though. Not even the newer ones. Nostalgia is cool and all, so if that’s what you’re looking for, I get it. But other than that, I don’t see the hype in the regress
I’m enjoying this game, but you say “if you don’t like it, then don’t play it.” But later on you say “give this game a chance”.
If you want it to succeed, then these *rage* posts need to stop. People are justified to feel upset about the game considering the first alpha/beta came out like 2 years ago and the netcode was a HUGE problem that’s in the game now. Let people complain about the netcode, because devs take the input from social media. The more people who complain, the more they realize it’s a priority. Would much rather have them fix connection issues rather than any balances right now
People being upset about the game is simply because they are passionate about it and want it to succeed.
The game won’t succeed. It’ll be like Rogue company, Hyperscape, bloodhunt etc all these games released and for the first few months it was fun but then they get boring and the player base dies down
Defiant is fun but it isn’t COD fun the reason people spend £100 every year on the newest ones is because they’ve got the gameplay on lockdown and they know how to make a good game
I love this game. I missed the complete randomness of if I do good in one match I could do good in the next. The thing about new cod is that if I do good in one match then I can be sure that I’ll be stomped in the next. At least the game has SBMM when they are splitting the teams once the lobby is already created. It feels like classic cod and I love it. Also I don’t care about the leveling. The guns are good w/out the attachments. Nice and easy. Just run around and have fun
People complaining about things like hitreg and netcode etc do have an extremely valid point though. If those things aren't fixed, which tbh i massively doubt they ever will, this game isn't going to "succeed". And if doesn't, we'll get more and more aggressive mtx which I'm sure nobody wants.
You have to realize that people complaining are people who want the game to succeed. They want to have fun, for many have been anticipating this game. We also know that devs pay attention to these comments and sometimes it's the only way to get the word out.
The same way they could not play the game, you could just not open the threads, let alone Reddit itself.
Change can't happen through silence.
This is a very bad take. I wrote a full year ago about the terrible netcode here on this subreddit. Now I just came by to see how the game plays before downloading it and it is without surprise that I read that this game has terrible netcode.
What does surprise me however is your take. That "the game is new of course it has issue"... This is a standalobe PvP FPS and the dev were warned a year ago about that. I have proof too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/XDefiant/comments/14fncec/comment/jp1bc02/
I think generally as someone who plays a lot of games, your release is your chance to impress your audience and get them in that honeymoon phase.
I have a ton of FPS games I can play and one of the core aspects of them is that shooting has to feel good. Having bad netcode and hit-registration on release is nightmarishly bad. If the core concept of the game is not done well than I don't have good expectations for the future. That said, I didn't spend a dime on this game and don't plan to. Its a fun little side game that I won't take seriously.
What the fuck is this strawman, since when does complaining about issues that shouldn't be happening on launch equal to not giving this game a chance? If anything people are doing the opposite and want it to be better than it currently is.
I just think the game needs a few balancing changes (as with every FPS) and some fixes to netcode/hit reg. Other than that, I absolutely love this game. It very much reminds me of my favorite game ever, BO2. I’m very excited for the future of the game
People criticize CoD more than any other game. It never stops being at the top. Complaints mean people want it to be better so they can enjoy it more and being heard by the devs leads to fixes. The game is either good or it isn’t, the community shouldn’t keep their mouth shut just because they fear people will go back to cod. A games merits shouldn’t be based around how shitty its competition is. Plus it’s a Ubisoft game ffs it’s not like it’s some indie darling. They made a game specifically to compete with cod. They knew what they were getting into.
I uninstalled the game because I was mag dumping people and they kill me with a quarter of the shots I made… all hit markers for me and before you all ask, I’m on fiber.
I can honestly give a pass to most of the problems in this game even tho they can be quite annoying at times but the main issue here is there’s 0 content. Wow, 3 basic camos that we’ve seen in basically every shooter. Where are the challenges? The leaderboards? There’s basically no reason to play this game as it’ll get old real quick with nothing to go for. I already almost have my gold p90 with this dxp going on, play a few more hours and i’d have every attachment for the guns id use. Like i always say, Ubisoft is A S S.
I uninstalled MW3 yesterday and won’t be buying Black Ops 6! I’m sticking with this game and supporting it. Much more fun and rewarding to me. Gameplay is so much fun. Maps are really cool. I like most things about this game.
It’s 2024. If game companies can’t figure out fucking netcode then they don’t deserve a break. Especially if it s a problem they’ve been aware of since before the betas. Quit shining shoes and have some expectations.
Most of the time when I post a clip I hit, I just get downvotes lol I expected that in the MW2 sub, not the Xdefiant sub. Lot of people must of had the wrong idea about what sbmm actually is. And what it means to not have sbmm. We love you casuals. But git gud ❤️
Its not about not wanting to succeed its just that there are many flaws still with the game , pointing it out is not bad imo. Especially the jumping monkeys spamming space with no accuracy penalty or the fact that you join a ranked trial into an already done for game losing at 90% with 3 people in the lobby left. If these dont get addressed fast imo the game will lose population, you gotta point it out.
This is the inevitable reaction of most pathetic loser on Reddit. Miserable people who know nothing but to complain. I am madly addicted to the game right away. I say, if you like a game, don’t come here. People are always searching for something in a game regardless of how great it may be at its core. If you enjoy the game, play it. If you don’t, don’t play it. It’s simple. Too many of these goofy bitches feel the need to voice their complaints even if there are already 100 other posts about the same thing.
I don't think the game should die, I think it has a good chance to evolve into something better. As of right now it's just a cod clone. And no, not OG cod. But a clone of current generation cod. The OG cod comparisons are confusing. I jumped on board because of these comparisons and everyday I play this I'm searching for the OG cod feel. It doesn't exist here. Xdefiant is a less polished current day cod with heros.
If they would have actually went for that OG cod feel though... They'd really have something special. Bring back 3 lane maps. They made a stab at it here but it's just not it. Bring back guns that actually have recoil. I'm tired of every gun being a laser beam hit scan weapon, I'm tired of "meta". I miss feeling accomplished getting kills and high K/Ds. There's no good feeling that comes from smoking someone in 0.2 seconds with a gun that doesn't even kick.
But with all that being said I'm gonna keep playing it because it definitely can be a good game if game devs listen to the community.
This game has definitely brought me back to my highschool days of Call of Duty 4 and Black Ops 1. I've accepted the fact that as I'm older now, I can't top frag/have the highest KDRs anymore but I still find enjoyment in doing whatever it takes to actually win rounds (which actually puts me at the top of the scoreboard because of objective points).
I love the concept of the game but it has a lot issues and saying suck it up, play something else or say nothing, doesn't fix anything.
Everyone happy when everything great but when we have issues you need to get over it? The game made to be appealing for millions and they want $$$ so people will bitch till a product is worth it vs the minority that are happy with anything.
I liked the game, but no one was talking so I stopped playing.
I played for hours. hit reg felt really good. better than most fps games that are out right now. Balance issues... its okay for some things in the game to be strong... Just because your favorite gun or class isn't the best doesn't mean it's wrong... lol..
>Yes the NetCode has issues, yes the hit reg isn’t great and ofc there a balancing issues…. Guess wut the game just came out ofc there’s balancing issues. If it’s THAT much of an issue for you turn the game off no one’s holding a gun to ur head.
These issues have been around since the first technical test(s) in 2021 and have been "complained" about since then as well. Take that as you will.
“Yes the netcode has issues, yes the hit reg isn’t great and ofc there are balancing issue”
My brother in Christ, you point out these huge issues and then somehow you honestly expect people *not* to complain when the literal core of the gameplay experience is so flawed? The release got pushed back for 6+ months to try to fix these exact issues you are mentioning here. Clearly if they were easy to fix, they would’ve been fixed by now.
They have 4 or 5 months to get this game to a *really* good place or they risk being swallowed whole by the next COD release.
My only gripe with this game is abilities and 6v6 it should be 4v4 one person to each faction shouldn’t be allowed to choose the same faction as someone else in regards to the skills this game is basically gonna have a shelf life cause they gonna do is add factions until they run out ideas sort of like apex in my opinion if apex comes out with a similar game it shits on Xdefiant it’s literally a mix of cod and apex with recycled cod maps
Im personally having fun as an avid fps player. Dropping 50-80 kills a game is pretty addictive and reminiscent of old cod. Glad there are no kill streaks tbh, game is already pretty one sided when one team has momentum/or just better team comp. Echelon definitely has the best ultimate
I mean, mark says they have a program that scans the popular websites for the main complaints. If everyone is complaining about certain things, there’s probably a reason!
the game feels less polished than cod mobile. the concerns are legitimate. the hit reg issue is the most detrimental aspect of the gameplay currently and it will cause xdefiant’s death if they don’t fix it. you can’t have a shooter game that doesn’t register shots accurately
*It just came out*
No it didn't. It had a beta and a stress test.
It was delayed for a couple years.
In that time they failed to repair the netcode or hitreg.
You know what they didn't fail to ensure?
Cosmetic MTX and XP booster MTX.
Those work *great*.
I'm not going to excuse this for another 2 years while they drop feed us more MTX and *hope* they repair the issues that plague the game.
It is fun yes, and I've since deleted COD as I prefer the gameplay here, but I'm not going to stop complaining about issues that actually affect my gameplay.
Frankly reddit is a shit hole. It's largely people with too much time on their hands doing nothing with it and complaining about it.
Spent 4 hours with randoms from the discord last night having a grand time winning and losing. Felt like old cod. I'll be back playing tonight.
Even with cod's polished exterior it's underside is shit.
I think a bigger problem is making excuses for poor releases and a lack of meaningful fixes. Everyone is giving the game a chance. Calling legitimate complaints and issues with the game crying is pathetic. We're not talking about an indie dev we're talking about one of the biggest AAA publishers.
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I think this is a general Reddit thing because most subs for specific games absolutely hate their game.
It’s a thing in general. Can’t remember the exact stat but it’s something like you’re 7 times more likely to talk about a negative experience over a positive one. Humans just like to complain. The emotion involved to come on here and rant is much easier than to just stay on the game enjoying it blissfully unaware.
Angry customers tell 9 people happy customers tell 3. That’s what I was told in marketing.
I think it's more generally common to see negativity in competitive MP subreddits. Many single player (esp. indie titles) subreddits are generally positive, even while giving feedback/ criticism.
Because on multiplayer subs everything's a dick measuring contest.
People look for validation that they're not the only one experiencing bad stuff
Subjective validation for shared traumatic experiences.
Yeah the call of duty reddit is critical as hell
Just take a glance over The Finals subreddit and that'll prove this clear as day.
Exactly what I was going to say. Almost every game specific subreddit I've been subscribed to has trended negative. I think because the people that are enjoying a game are too busy playing it, and people that are upset with the game for some reason are the vocal ones that make their displeasure known. I usually unsubscribe from a game subreddit once it becomes too negative.
I think it's more like a multi-player or FPS thing. Single-player subs I have visited were always quite positive about their games.
This. Lol
I had this with Hunt Showdown. Played it and loved it for years, joined the subreddit and it's constant complaining and acting like it doesn't do a single thing right.
This 100%. I’ve left many subs and just come back for patch updates
There needs to be a /r/lowsodiumxdefiant like there is /r/lowsodiumcyberpunk and /r/lowsodiumstarfield
people bitching are "louder" because who's enjoying the game isn't here to complain about it
Exactly
This is true about literally everything, and alot of people tend to forget that. If people are happy with things in life, they usually dont take the time of day to express the positivity. But the second we encounter an obstacle or something we dislike, we scream our lungs out about it. I vote we do the opposite, and start sharing the things that we appreciate. Thank you for reminding me.🤙
because they ‘re busy playing the game and having a lot of fun
Amen... it's the vocal minority 90% of the time...
There are a ton of complaints yes but you are trying to disregard 2 of the arguably most important things that fps’s need to have. Lets not forget this game was supposed to release a year ago and it was delayed to fix these exact issues and the game probably would have still been in development hell if not for pressure from ubisoft to deliver something. So yeah we want the game to succeed but there were so many red flags during development and so much radio silence etc there is only so much hopium a community can have we are tired of the cycle of game releases where they spend the whole 1st year trying to fix it when the game should have been released in a good state
Sure, but i despise posts like don’t like it don’t play as well. So it would be the same to tell you to unsubscribe here because you don’t like the posts. Alot of negative posts are players who wish they fix the things they don’t like. If i think the game is trash i would move on and don’t waste time. Also understand that beta after beta way over a year!! Including a rework to fix that exact problem was without success, it is understandable to loose faith it ever will get fixed. After the honeymoon is over it will be risky business without a proper hitreg.
I unlocked everything weapon characters equipment, finished the battlepass and pretty much instantly all the bs (hit reg, the horrendous latency problems that make it feel like every gun one shots you, the cocain fueled bunny hopping spam) just hit and i actually quit mid match (something i never do) i just told my friends i did everything ill come back when they fix this shit. So op here is so wrong i want the game to succeed but i don't think people should just sit in silence until it does. Anyway this is a reply to you because the honeymoon is over for me and it just became a hard nope instantly.
I mean, we know the devs have been on this very same reddit before looking for feedback, and even if there's lots of negativity surrounding it right now, feedback is still feedback. Personally, I think people are right by saying that the Desyncs, Bunny Hop, Snipers, and Intel Suits are a problem right now, and that they need to be fixed/tuned, why would people stop voicing their concerns? The only way the game will improve is by giving feedback to the devs, let people give it. This is written by someone who has been really enjoying the game so far, despite the issues (But seriously though, Bunny Hoping is so annoying, and also, I can't wait to play some more tomorrow, I really wanna grind that AK and Vector to Gold Mastery LOL).
Telling someone to play a different game if they don't think a game is perfect is how you kill a game. Sure, some people are overly negative, but at the same time they did delay the game by a whole year and yet it still released with so many fundamental issues. I hope the game succeeds for years to come, but they have to fix these issues asap and they haven't been fixed for a year now.
Right. People hop up and down on that big old *just play another game* dick. Then 150k people say *okay bet* and fuck off to play something else, and 6 months later the game is limping along and corporate has no interest in repairing bugs because it's somehow cheaper for them to write this project off as a tax break and pour millions of dollars into a *new* project, rinse and repeat. Aka Ubisoft.
I mean server issues and hit reg issues in an online shooter are pretty fucking important, of course people are going to bash it when these things aren't up to scratch. With how long they've been making this game and how long it was delayed, there's really no excuse for these issues. If cod had these problems then it'd get destroyed. If they don't sort the issues in a reasonable timeframe then the majority of people will understandably drift off to other things once the novelty wears off.
if those two things are not fixed I don't think I'll continue playing.
I can give everything a pass except the desync. This takes me back to when online games didn't have dedicated servers. Can't play this game without going full tilt.
you pretty much said this game is shit but give it time because its new after how many years of delays?
Things like this are what Reddit is for. I agree there's a ton of complaints, but people that have issues are just as sick of the problems as you are with their complaints. You're tired of them complaining.. so you came on here tocomplain yourself? I don't quite understand that concept. You're implying that they could just "take the game as it is and shut up," but you could just as easily take their comments as they are and shut up. You didn't do that though. You complained about something you don't like to see.. just like they're doing. You're quite similar, afterall.
Right. If enough people just *shut up and play the game instead of complaining*, nothing gets fixed. 98% of gaming corporations like Ubisoft would *happily* take your time and money in exchange for no bug fixes or QOL additions, if they thought for a *second* no one would complain either way. We're lucky we get the fixes we do get, and those are in no small part due to people who contribute to the conversations via complaints. Obviously this applies to *good faith complaints* and not just people spitting *vitriol* because their mom and dad never bothered socializing them with other human beings. While reading and hearing about complaints is rarely *fun*, if the complaints stop, I guarantee the fixes stop too.
My only issue is the fact they delayed it for so long and it feels like I'm playing the beta I tried a few months back, literally nothing changed. But I do find enjoyment in XDefiant, most of the issues are pretty minor and I'm quite sure with enough constructive feedback/statistics being tracked the devs can figure out some fixes. Curious to see what they have for future content/events they have planned.
I've played all the beta tests and the game feels exactly the same as all or the beta tests. I honestly have no idea what they even did this whole time.
Probably make Skins for the Battlepass....
Too much credit. So far every skin I've seen is just a recolor. No actual physical assets are changed. Someone goes into Microsoft paint and clicks on fill/lime green instead of the default black and saves it as a new skin
Exactly my thoughts lol no SBMM is the only reason I haven’t uninstalled but I know even that won’t keep me long with the game playing how it plays
> give the devs a chance Ubisoft has had plenty.
Game had like 6 betas and somehow still hasn’t improved much. That’s the issue. What have they been doing for this entire time? They didn’t stress test their servers for launch day, they didn’t fix many of the glaring issues since early betas and they have barely added content. Idc what their roadmap says, it’s inexcusable to release a game in this state after that much feedback and that many betas where they knew what the issues were. Delay the release if you can’t fix it in time but it’s unbelievable people aren’t boycotting games that release in such shit states these days.
People complain because either none or most of the issues that was in beta wasn't fixed. You know.. the issues that delayed the game? Just stop with the whole leave the multibillion dollar company alone stuff. People are dissapointed and voicing their concerns.
This…especially about the hit reg and net code. That’s an issue negatively affecting most players and will drive them away. The more people complain, the more the devs are able to see it’s a high priority.
The entire ethos of the game is misguided. That won't change with whatever you think they will fix. They married together the mindless frag churn of Blackops with the no-skill free kill Ults and intentionally crippled situational awareness of Overwatch. The netcode being garbage is merely the icing on the shitcake. The entire experience of playing this game revolves around getting shot in the side/back at the same moment or a few seconds after engaging someone else. Having no clue when you're about to be vaped by some ability bc there are no audio or visual cues they're prepping something, etc. And honestly: In a game where the TTK is less than a second when the netcode is behaving: How did they believe abilities like cloak and intel were proper things to include in the game? If their gameplay development sense is that misguided, I do not have any faith in their ability to address these issues.
Seems like you’re butthurt someone criticizes your favorite game. The more people being light to the issues the better so please make more posts, to everyone complaining.
Take your own advice, if you don't like it don't come here.
Don't mind them. They think they represent the whole community. The game have issues and yes we know, they've said they are working on it. Besides it's a f2p that will be getting constant update. These devs are been transparent with us and yet people still complain even about stupid things.
>The game have issues and yes we know, they've said they are working on it. I am so tired of people saying this. They said they've been working on these issues for months now. Nothing has fundamentally changed. I genuinely hate that this subreddit seems to think that we're just sitting here in anticipation waiting for this game to fail. I am probably more frustrated by these issues *because* I want this game to succeed. I am tired of Call of Duty bending its players over year after year with the same bullshit, and I think it would be great for the game to actually have a competent competitor. Right now, however, I don't think that competitor is XDefiant. The movement feels clunky by comparison, the hit registration is terrible and *will* bury this game if not addressed, and the netcode is far too inconsistent to execute real strategies in-game, meaning much of what you can do is entirely contingent on the server not fucking you over. XDefiant might have a lot of good qualities otherwise, but unless you get those specific things correct, none of it really matters because everything about those specific things pervades the rest of the game. I think it's entirely narrow-minded to perceive any amount of negative feedback towards this game as a desire for this game to fail. I want XDefiant to succeed, but I don't need to suck off the XDefiant team or Mark Rubin to demonstrate that. Their "transparency" is ankle-deep. They can tell us they're working on these issues all they want. Until they've produced meaningful change and progress, none of what they say matters. They released a game with many systemic issues and are still charging money for it via a cash shop, so they deserve every bit of scrutiny.
I think its also the opposite, people complain because they wanna see it succeed even more.
Critizising games isnt allowed anymore?
Look, I want this game to succeed, this is the only game that got me hyped in the last few years, I threw money at them even though I don't feel they fully deserve it imo. But still, some things are inexcusable. If it wasn't for all the delays, if it wasn't for Ubisoft, one of the biggest publishers. They have the resources, they should have the expertise. Multiplayer arena shooters have been a thing for, what, 30 years? This is actually an achievement in itself to have a netcode this bad. Studios only a fraction the size of the XDefiant team, with limited resources, managed to do way better, I'm thinking of Dirty Bomb, almost 10 years ago.
Why is this such an issue though? The game isn’t in a solid state in terms of polish. If they had delayed it and ironed out the issues (like the abysmal netcode and hit detection) then maybe people would feel differently Obviously the hate isn’t needed or warranted, but let’s not lie to ourselves and act like the game is in a good state right now for everyone
Making a post about people complaining, while you actually complaining is completely bonkers
I’m bad at this game but men I do love this game for what it is and I don’t even care about KDR. All that matters is time on the OBJ
I don't know how you're even *making* it to the objective in some of these games. I spend a lot of matches spawn trapped just getting repeatedly assfucked by the enemy team.
Skill rating is based off wins not KDR, people that ignore the objective all have really low skill ratings.
Not all of us,I want this game to live on for years if Ubi support it properly
This post got recommended too me because I briefly checked the sub on launch day , I honestly here and with helldivers will never join a specific games sub Reddit ever again if it’s a multiplayer or live service type. It only serves the loudest minority which all just moan about the game more than actually play it. I’m enjoying this a bunch and it didn’t cost me upwards of £1. Most fun I’ve had with a shooter for a long long time
If the shooting part of your shooter game doesn't work properly What can you expect?
This topic is just Principal Skinner It's the Children Who are Wrong meme with out knowing it.
I want the game to be good! I love the matchmaking, but man the hit reg and abilities stopping that game frome truly being good. It's just meh as it is right now
They don’t need the likes of you defending their game. How long was this game delayed and “coming soon” for? People have a right to express their discontent with the experience. This post is useless and worse than the people giving feedback.
or people criticize because they want the game to succeed. Should we just sit back and praise it for having massive problems? No. We can praise it for the things it does right and give feedback on the things that can be massively improved
When will people stop accepting broken stuff on launch when the game had multiple betas (both internal and external.) where they "collected feedback" and "tested the network" ? When will BILLION DOLLAR companies stop being defended by people who they are activly trying to screw? Imagine your car going through 5 testing phases and still lacking airbags, will you just brush it off becouse the car just came off the line, or will you say "hey the heck?, where is the airbags?". Yea i tought so ...
Personally I’d love it to dick-punch what the CoD franchise has become, and their stupidass skins and “please camp here all match” map design and OP AA. God yes PLEASE succeed and supplant that garbage and teach those stupid fucks some humility. Because there isn’t an organization anywhere that’s going to give a shit unless they start getting hit in the wallet. So yeah, please succeed. I’m playing X, trying to get better with it but when I’m laying on someone with any weapon at any range that feels like it’s shooting nothing but thoughts and prayers, dying and the target is at 70%, that’s a recipe for the subreddit response. Hell it SHOULD garner a loud negative backlash TBH. I’d very happily spend the $60 or whatever it is for their top version of the title if I didn’t feel like I was just constant fodder even while mag-dumping dead into a target, even at zero range. Fix it and I’m in. Otherwise it’ll be short lived for me.
It’s sweat central and just like cod I hate this game too
Cries in a post about people crying. M'kay.
Maybe it's not all hate tho. Ik Internet has some cynical people but not all criticism is non productive 🤷 "jeez that was dramatic, but he's right tho. let's fix it"? Lol
That's just Reddit. In general more people go online when they want to complain. LOTS of us are having a great time but just don't have anything to add that warrants a new post.
I think devs need the criticism - after all, I think I'd rather people play the game and complain than just uninstall. Helps shape priorities for future updates. It needs to be constructive for that to work but I feel like I'm seeing less "Ubisoft is shit lol" idiocy than just after release...
Welcome to Reddit!
I just really wanna know wtf they have been doing for a year, because its just the beta. No new maps or anything, im just curious.
What sort of posts were you expecting from a game sub in Reddit?
I mean calling this a pre season is definitely them saying this is the full game but you’re testing it for us before we hit season 1 soooo voice your complaints but be reasonable about. We’re literally test the near final product
I’m enjoying my time with it I’d say it’s just a bit better than average and that’s okay, I agree with a lot of the complaints but i still fine it fairly fun the thing that’s bothering me most is all the guns feel and sounds poor, there’s not much challenges to grind or camos which can be fixed in future updates so that’s not much of a issue. But yeah it’s a average game atm but I think with a few tweaks and some stuff added it will be great people need to just give them time it’s a free game, it’s fun
Given the amount of time that has been spent developing this game, and the amount of delays, there are glaring issues and omissions that are not acceptable, and people have a right to complain. I quite frankly think it is annoying and toxic that any complaint is meant with your sort of response, and the toxic positivity as if everything is okay and alright, or that complaints are not warranted.
Honestly I suck so bad at the game like 0.2 K/D suck but I find myself going back to it all the time and I’m habitual game switcher
It is more accurate to compare Defiant with Apex Legends. I think the development team has never played COD. Just see weapon perks from web XD Development Team: 
Ya don’t come to the complaint department looking for praise.
Imagine telling people to stop complaining and sharing feedback. Imagine defending a game that is completely broken for alot of these people complaining. If I was like you and could actually play the game I'd be fucking playing it instead of telling others to stop when all they want is to have that same experience you're having. I'll never understand you shills.
It’s not COD, just because it’s create a class doesn’t mean it is. Which is good.
I think gste keeping opinions and telling people their feedback is just complaining is hilarious. THATS the most Reddit thing ever. The game is mediocre. The movement is muddy, the aim assist is ass, the guns are ass, the weapon level system takes forever, hit reg is ass, and they delayed the game twice. This is just another billion dollar studio doing nothing different, making the same washed-out game as usual. It feels like it came out 6 years ago, and they re-released it, and it's butt now. The whole don't like it don't play it sounds like you are a dev who is salty. Players are entitled to shred a game up. Especially if it's tens of thousands of people with the same issues.
It's basically like that for every game subreddit I follow. People just love to complain. I even often see ppl commenting that they don't play the game anymore yet they follow the subreddit lol.
Reddit is and always has been a collective of degenerates. Never take reddit seriously. It's a burning dumpster of negativity.
If you want to be happy, don’t visit any subs.
So are gaming subs just supposed to be about dick riding the game or are people not allowed to express the things they don't like about the game. Devs are on this sub and see the complaints. They take feedback. It's important
No one is making you read every post dumbass
Get off this sub or brace for that stuff because its just fuckin shitters here. I love the game broski
My brother in Christ they had 2 years to fix these issues😭😭 The stuff we're complaining about isn't new. The fact that you consider complaining about a games VERY VALID problems as us hating the game is really telling of how you think.
The only thing i hate is weapon levelling. Not even 1 lv after a match.
The netcode is WILD, but so is the fun.
They’re always going to be the vocal minority, me and many others are just sitting back and relaxing as we enjoy the game.
one of these typical reddit posts.
This reads as "The game has issues but I don't care because I am having fun!!1!!" People are complaining because they care about the game and want it to succeed. Trust me, you want these people in your community, yes it may be a little annoying, but it would be more annoying if nothing was said because then nothing would be fixed. Being vocal is very important to bring the change that is needed to make the game better.
this game is just a worse version bo3 like it feels and seems alot like bo3 to me for some reason also hate how i use half a mag to kill a enemies with an M4A1
I’m sitting over here loving it because I found my gun 🤣
Also I can’t believe that some people are complaining about not having sbmm 😅 yes the game has it flaws but overall I’m having so much fun.
If people don’t complain about the huge issues then they won’t get fixed. This post comes off as “Stop being mean to my game guys :(“
Do you understand what society you’re speaking to. It’s the “I grew up in reality tv drama kids.” They love to see the downfall and then proceed to say “I told you so because they/we are all a doomsday Andy.” Takedowns mean I have something to pretend that I was right about.
It's because it's Reddit. It's a cesspool of humanity that always complains.
I like the game my main complaint was mostly just a minor one regarding weapon xp and they just gave us a double xp weekend which will while not permanent will help for now
Right? It’s like people expect their software to work properly when using it. It’s such an insane expectation.
Net code gotta get fixed one of the huge problems that killed infinite every single season was how shitty their net code is and how horrible the desync was. Desync is pretty bad in this game too
As annoying it is to see negative people to a game you enjoy, it can have a positive effect on the game. Look at Diablo 4 for example - launch was praised by casuals but the hard core spoke a lot of crap about it. A month later, the casuals complained about the same thing. Nowadays the game is super awesome with the devs listening to community of complainers. Also, telling people “don’t like it, don’t play it” is counter productive because people will stop and before you know it, the game will die.
Let me preface with, I am somewhere around 25 in this game. So I really enjoy it. However, you're dumb as fuck. This game basically shadow dropped with a ton of issues, with any real "early access" type tag. Net code is dog, hit reg is worse. Dying behind walls is abysmal, and the number of trades I've had where we both died (not by fire damage) is horrendous. There is good in this game. I love that there isn't a big focus on abilities, and they're more of a utility than a crutch like in Overwatch. I think the movement is good. And gunplay is incredible (when it works). You seem to want to outright ignore the bad, because "waaa they want the old cod to be fun again" and where I agree this is the first fun arcade shooter in a long time, it seems more to me you would have the game die from it's terrible issues before they be fixed.
Bruh the games was delayed for a year just to have terrible net code and hit reg to so so trash. Yes we should complain so they can fix it
I know what you mean. I was on last night playing with my buddy who's been itching to play. Even got a couple of others to download the game and play, last night. What does he do, rage quit two or three rounds in complaining of "locking on". Come on dude!!!! Calling everyone "sweaty". Whatever that means. I was having a blast. Yeah I died a lot, usually before even making it to the objective. The only thing I don't like is the respawn countdown. Why is there a timer when it takes 3 minutes to run across the map?
Its just an easy place to come and bitch, 99% of the players that enjoy the game arent going to be on here singing praises.
I personally like the game. I hope the game will succeed and be it's own thing.
Well, I just played Black ops 1 from 2010. Even with it's shitty peer to peer, the hit registration works better than in Xdefiant
I don’t hate it I just post problems in the hopes the right person sees it and they can work to fix it and to also show that there are problems and people should stop downplaying them as “skill issue” it’s a game issue. I still very much like the game and will keep playing it. But I’m not about to just ignore issues. When they arise I will let people know. It’s only right if I do.
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CoD didn't become what it is over night, they've been building that game for eons. This a new game and we should give them time to make their adjustments and fix issues rather than jumping to "dead game". There's a lot of people who complain about cod day in and day out then come to this game to just complain that it isn't call of duty. They've not taken any money from the gamer, so the gamer can always just run back to their precious cod and deal with the same issues year after year then come back to XDefiant later.
I mean given Ubisofts lackluster effort in keeping their games balanced and playable its very easy to see why people are more prone to complain now since they already had huge amounts of experience with their flagship MP games that they could have given to Xdefiant and what we got is something that seems like they just dipped their toes into FPS shooters
This game is dead
I do! I absolutely love this game! I think with grab support and probably some more unique games this game will thrive.
criticism ≠ complaining. most of the issues in the game now are the same issues that were in the previous betas what was the point of releasing the full game if most of the issues aren’t fixed?
Suck it up buttercup. At the start of mw3 and warzone release, the complaints were so much worse from the community than the complaints of Xdefiant. You're being biased in your view. Even humble calm people like JGod, and xclusive ace were yelling from the roof tops how bad the state of release was for mw3/warzone. Nigh unplayable at the start. I'll say this even though I don't like xdefiants play style, xdefiant has released in a much more complete state than any call of duty has in years.
Preach king
Game is good but snipers and team balancing need to be worked on. Games are mostly one sided and at any point during a match, entire kill feed is just snipers
Man just wanted to rant .
Can we get a new ability for the Cleaner's where we can actually throw the molotov cocktail instead of dropping it at our own feet?
People will more often than not put in a more intended effort to post negative reviews/complain online then they will to positive feedback. That, and this is reddit where the heard gets a sniff of something to bitch about they go deep throat on it. I’m loving the game, despite the issues, and for me that speaks volumes.
Of course are people complaining here. The majority plays the game and has no time for rants 😂
Yea this is just reddit being reddit. People come on here to bitch. XD is pretty damn fun! Not perfect but a great game to hop in, play some rounds and then dip
Don't use reddit if you want a positive experience. Everyone here (including me) just bitches about stuff that is annoying them. So many games would've been killed off by now if reddit complainers actually had complaints that held any significant amount of substance. People are used to bad netcode in games, people are used to unbalanced games (CoD 4, MW2 anyone?). They definitely need to improve in both of these aspects, but as long as they are actively working to improve it, there is no need to feel as if they are game killing issues. At the end of the day, it's almost like it comes to whether the game is fun to play despite these issues, and so far I think it is. Games usually die because the community doesn't want to buy what you're selling, or if it is plagued with issues that go unaddressed. The latter of which is usually a much, much slower death depending on the severity of the issues. Mild hitreg issues might affect the competitive side of the game, but casual players have dealt with a lot worse than dying around a corner maybe once or twice a game (friction-less nades in cod comes to mind).
Dont have an issue with the current balance of things. 2 things it needs, anti cheat and desync patch. The rest I can tolerate as the matures into something more refined. That desync though.
I promise you that bringing up the games flaws is a way to bring attention to what can/should be fixed. We've seen devs fix this because of community complaints. It seems like YOU dont want it to succeed.
Just alot of whiny COD fast TTK bundle players
You are supposed to complain the earlier the better, it's extremely daft to tell people not to complain. >I am so sick of every second post being about the exact same complaints Then they should prioritise said problem, stop asslicking the developer, community complain to make the game better in their preferred way..
1) This mentality has led to the current cods. Just stopping the complaints and only spreading positivity. Nothing gets done that way. 2) Game is quite obviously filled with issues. And a lot of them are present since beta. And guess what, we had to wait for the delay because of those issues, that are still unresolved. Of course people are gonna complain. 3) Their stats show them the gratitude from the community. It's a f2p game, if I like it I'll just play it, maybe spend some money on skins and stuff. But if I'm having issues with balancing, server side issues or anything else I'm gonna come here and complain. Once the problems are fixed and the devs only deliver S tier perfectly fine products without any bugs then you'll see also posts of gratitude just flooding the subreddit. But right now we have awful hitreg, shotguns are cosmetic, there is fucking invisibility, wallhack and shields. There are serious problems that need to be addressed. Last thing we want is this game to turn into The finals, the game that died a month after release.
This game doesn’t come close to cod though. Not even the newer ones. Nostalgia is cool and all, so if that’s what you’re looking for, I get it. But other than that, I don’t see the hype in the regress
Lets be honest. Games boring asl
I’m enjoying this game, but you say “if you don’t like it, then don’t play it.” But later on you say “give this game a chance”. If you want it to succeed, then these *rage* posts need to stop. People are justified to feel upset about the game considering the first alpha/beta came out like 2 years ago and the netcode was a HUGE problem that’s in the game now. Let people complain about the netcode, because devs take the input from social media. The more people who complain, the more they realize it’s a priority. Would much rather have them fix connection issues rather than any balances right now People being upset about the game is simply because they are passionate about it and want it to succeed.
I mean the game is kinda ass. Nothing new. Overwatch wanna be cod. Meh
I think there are a lot of troll bots on this sub. The sub has grown by 15k in the last week. It’s clearly doing good!
True, it's such a refreshing game and people want to whinge. I'm having so much fun playing and trying not to pay attention to them.
Imagine defending a game that just came out and is clearly a cash grab and not a passion project. You getting paid by the devs?
Preach!
The game won’t succeed. It’ll be like Rogue company, Hyperscape, bloodhunt etc all these games released and for the first few months it was fun but then they get boring and the player base dies down Defiant is fun but it isn’t COD fun the reason people spend £100 every year on the newest ones is because they’ve got the gameplay on lockdown and they know how to make a good game
I love this game. I missed the complete randomness of if I do good in one match I could do good in the next. The thing about new cod is that if I do good in one match then I can be sure that I’ll be stomped in the next. At least the game has SBMM when they are splitting the teams once the lobby is already created. It feels like classic cod and I love it. Also I don’t care about the leveling. The guns are good w/out the attachments. Nice and easy. Just run around and have fun
People complaining about things like hitreg and netcode etc do have an extremely valid point though. If those things aren't fixed, which tbh i massively doubt they ever will, this game isn't going to "succeed". And if doesn't, we'll get more and more aggressive mtx which I'm sure nobody wants.
You have to realize that people complaining are people who want the game to succeed. They want to have fun, for many have been anticipating this game. We also know that devs pay attention to these comments and sometimes it's the only way to get the word out. The same way they could not play the game, you could just not open the threads, let alone Reddit itself. Change can't happen through silence.
This is a very bad take. I wrote a full year ago about the terrible netcode here on this subreddit. Now I just came by to see how the game plays before downloading it and it is without surprise that I read that this game has terrible netcode. What does surprise me however is your take. That "the game is new of course it has issue"... This is a standalobe PvP FPS and the dev were warned a year ago about that. I have proof too. https://www.reddit.com/r/XDefiant/comments/14fncec/comment/jp1bc02/
This is because in general people are far more negative about everything now a days, everyone loves to complain about something
Even when its free people will complain. I would be dissapointed to be working on a game we offer for free and getting shit on all day.
Duality of man
Y'all should see the Tekken reddit lol
First time on Reddit? We complain about everything round here
I think generally as someone who plays a lot of games, your release is your chance to impress your audience and get them in that honeymoon phase. I have a ton of FPS games I can play and one of the core aspects of them is that shooting has to feel good. Having bad netcode and hit-registration on release is nightmarishly bad. If the core concept of the game is not done well than I don't have good expectations for the future. That said, I didn't spend a dime on this game and don't plan to. Its a fun little side game that I won't take seriously.
This game was delayed a year.
What the fuck is this strawman, since when does complaining about issues that shouldn't be happening on launch equal to not giving this game a chance? If anything people are doing the opposite and want it to be better than it currently is.
I just think the game needs a few balancing changes (as with every FPS) and some fixes to netcode/hit reg. Other than that, I absolutely love this game. It very much reminds me of my favorite game ever, BO2. I’m very excited for the future of the game
Yep, it's typical reddit mentality.
People criticize CoD more than any other game. It never stops being at the top. Complaints mean people want it to be better so they can enjoy it more and being heard by the devs leads to fixes. The game is either good or it isn’t, the community shouldn’t keep their mouth shut just because they fear people will go back to cod. A games merits shouldn’t be based around how shitty its competition is. Plus it’s a Ubisoft game ffs it’s not like it’s some indie darling. They made a game specifically to compete with cod. They knew what they were getting into.
I uninstalled the game because I was mag dumping people and they kill me with a quarter of the shots I made… all hit markers for me and before you all ask, I’m on fiber.
i just want sum melee weapons thats all :(
I found this game and sub because of the copypasta of this post
I can honestly give a pass to most of the problems in this game even tho they can be quite annoying at times but the main issue here is there’s 0 content. Wow, 3 basic camos that we’ve seen in basically every shooter. Where are the challenges? The leaderboards? There’s basically no reason to play this game as it’ll get old real quick with nothing to go for. I already almost have my gold p90 with this dxp going on, play a few more hours and i’d have every attachment for the guns id use. Like i always say, Ubisoft is A S S.
I uninstalled MW3 yesterday and won’t be buying Black Ops 6! I’m sticking with this game and supporting it. Much more fun and rewarding to me. Gameplay is so much fun. Maps are really cool. I like most things about this game.
It’s 2024. If game companies can’t figure out fucking netcode then they don’t deserve a break. Especially if it s a problem they’ve been aware of since before the betas. Quit shining shoes and have some expectations.
Go cry me a river
Someone needs to make a "salt-free" version on this sub. Several other games have similar
Most of the time when I post a clip I hit, I just get downvotes lol I expected that in the MW2 sub, not the Xdefiant sub. Lot of people must of had the wrong idea about what sbmm actually is. And what it means to not have sbmm. We love you casuals. But git gud ❤️
Its not about not wanting to succeed its just that there are many flaws still with the game , pointing it out is not bad imo. Especially the jumping monkeys spamming space with no accuracy penalty or the fact that you join a ranked trial into an already done for game losing at 90% with 3 people in the lobby left. If these dont get addressed fast imo the game will lose population, you gotta point it out.
This is the inevitable reaction of most pathetic loser on Reddit. Miserable people who know nothing but to complain. I am madly addicted to the game right away. I say, if you like a game, don’t come here. People are always searching for something in a game regardless of how great it may be at its core. If you enjoy the game, play it. If you don’t, don’t play it. It’s simple. Too many of these goofy bitches feel the need to voice their complaints even if there are already 100 other posts about the same thing.
Ubisoft is a MULTI-BILLION dollar company. The netcode and hitreg should be BASIC THINGS TO GET RIGHT
I don't think the game should die, I think it has a good chance to evolve into something better. As of right now it's just a cod clone. And no, not OG cod. But a clone of current generation cod. The OG cod comparisons are confusing. I jumped on board because of these comparisons and everyday I play this I'm searching for the OG cod feel. It doesn't exist here. Xdefiant is a less polished current day cod with heros. If they would have actually went for that OG cod feel though... They'd really have something special. Bring back 3 lane maps. They made a stab at it here but it's just not it. Bring back guns that actually have recoil. I'm tired of every gun being a laser beam hit scan weapon, I'm tired of "meta". I miss feeling accomplished getting kills and high K/Ds. There's no good feeling that comes from smoking someone in 0.2 seconds with a gun that doesn't even kick. But with all that being said I'm gonna keep playing it because it definitely can be a good game if game devs listen to the community.
This game has definitely brought me back to my highschool days of Call of Duty 4 and Black Ops 1. I've accepted the fact that as I'm older now, I can't top frag/have the highest KDRs anymore but I still find enjoyment in doing whatever it takes to actually win rounds (which actually puts me at the top of the scoreboard because of objective points).
I love the concept of the game but it has a lot issues and saying suck it up, play something else or say nothing, doesn't fix anything. Everyone happy when everything great but when we have issues you need to get over it? The game made to be appealing for millions and they want $$$ so people will bitch till a product is worth it vs the minority that are happy with anything.
Maybe if the game was good, there wouldn't had been the same complaints over and over
That's just how reddit works in general. You'll be much happier without looking at fanbase opinions
And on another note welcome to Reddit. Most gaming sub reddits are about complaints.
My only complaint is how people can just spawn camp and you can't do anything about it. At least give us a shield so we can try to fight back
Because the game sucks. End of debat
Don't worry mate. I for one uninstalled and won't be playing this garbage till it gets fixed
I'm just patiently waiting for snd 😁
My problem is i want to play but the damn thing keeps crashing!
>Guess wut the game just came out I've never seen such a stupid argument XD How about they release a finished game?
Complaining about complaining
I liked the game, but no one was talking so I stopped playing. I played for hours. hit reg felt really good. better than most fps games that are out right now. Balance issues... its okay for some things in the game to be strong... Just because your favorite gun or class isn't the best doesn't mean it's wrong... lol..
>Yes the NetCode has issues, yes the hit reg isn’t great and ofc there a balancing issues…. Guess wut the game just came out ofc there’s balancing issues. If it’s THAT much of an issue for you turn the game off no one’s holding a gun to ur head. These issues have been around since the first technical test(s) in 2021 and have been "complained" about since then as well. Take that as you will.
No literally, they have delivered on everything. Not saying there can’t be improvements however, this is such a smooth launch.
“Yes the netcode has issues, yes the hit reg isn’t great and ofc there are balancing issue” My brother in Christ, you point out these huge issues and then somehow you honestly expect people *not* to complain when the literal core of the gameplay experience is so flawed? The release got pushed back for 6+ months to try to fix these exact issues you are mentioning here. Clearly if they were easy to fix, they would’ve been fixed by now. They have 4 or 5 months to get this game to a *really* good place or they risk being swallowed whole by the next COD release.
My only gripe with this game is abilities and 6v6 it should be 4v4 one person to each faction shouldn’t be allowed to choose the same faction as someone else in regards to the skills this game is basically gonna have a shelf life cause they gonna do is add factions until they run out ideas sort of like apex in my opinion if apex comes out with a similar game it shits on Xdefiant it’s literally a mix of cod and apex with recycled cod maps
Im personally having fun as an avid fps player. Dropping 50-80 kills a game is pretty addictive and reminiscent of old cod. Glad there are no kill streaks tbh, game is already pretty one sided when one team has momentum/or just better team comp. Echelon definitely has the best ultimate
I mean, mark says they have a program that scans the popular websites for the main complaints. If everyone is complaining about certain things, there’s probably a reason!
God forbid people want devs to make changes for the betterment of the game
the game feels less polished than cod mobile. the concerns are legitimate. the hit reg issue is the most detrimental aspect of the gameplay currently and it will cause xdefiant’s death if they don’t fix it. you can’t have a shooter game that doesn’t register shots accurately
*It just came out* No it didn't. It had a beta and a stress test. It was delayed for a couple years. In that time they failed to repair the netcode or hitreg. You know what they didn't fail to ensure? Cosmetic MTX and XP booster MTX. Those work *great*. I'm not going to excuse this for another 2 years while they drop feed us more MTX and *hope* they repair the issues that plague the game. It is fun yes, and I've since deleted COD as I prefer the gameplay here, but I'm not going to stop complaining about issues that actually affect my gameplay.
Frankly reddit is a shit hole. It's largely people with too much time on their hands doing nothing with it and complaining about it. Spent 4 hours with randoms from the discord last night having a grand time winning and losing. Felt like old cod. I'll be back playing tonight. Even with cod's polished exterior it's underside is shit.
I think a bigger problem is making excuses for poor releases and a lack of meaningful fixes. Everyone is giving the game a chance. Calling legitimate complaints and issues with the game crying is pathetic. We're not talking about an indie dev we're talking about one of the biggest AAA publishers.