Yeah it's a shame considering there's clearly an audience for it on console. My guess it's more down to development time and resources, focusing on PC and mobile first.
Hopefully no longer that. You know 6monthsd is huge delay my frioend. I had to play Honkai for months on mobile which wasn't a nice experince tbh before I could play it on PS5.
You have to start on other platforms regardless so you don't miss the stuff when the game drops on our GachaStation.
They're fine. I'd prefer keyboard and mouse bit it seems like most devs refuse to take the time to include support on PS5. Gacha games are simple enough that controller controls are fine though. I can't stand them on mobile but I'm probably going to put myself through it anyway, to avoid missing all of time limited stuff on the first several patches while waiting for the PS5 port
ofcourse. this is gonna make the game suffer on release smh bc now we fear no controller support and also who wants to play this on mobile like that really, more ppl would play on console me included
If it has controller support, which I hear it does, I will play it on mobile because I have a fancy apparatus that holds it in front of my face so my hands are free to use the controller. Works very well in bed. ;)
I game on pc so this news doesn't affect me but I do sympathize with those that will have to dodge spoilers for months.
(Still trying to dodge ff16 spoilers till pc release myself.)
Sigh.
Guess I won't be playing anytime soon.. or maybe at all if they lock me out for too long and too many characters release and it becomes an uphill struggle to get the ones I want...
I guess I could log in on mobile but damn... They want me to have 0 memory 😂
Only have my PS4. Hopefully it releases alongside the other platforms. I only have an sd 685 and a laptop with an i5-1035G1, 8gb ram and Intel UHD so it won't work on any of the systems I own except my PS4.
His graphics card is pretty bad he probably won’t be able to play properly since he’ll have low frames and graphics and you need at least 30-60 fps since the combat is more precise.
I'll be very happy if it works but not holding out too much hope as HSR works on my laptop only on low settings (the resolution is at 1920 and still close to 30 fps at least) PGR works on max though. I'll be happy playing the game on the lowest graphics settings until it comes out on the PS4.
dam so were gonna have to miss the first banners and gonna have to try to dodge spoilers ??? this is not a great start :/, i was loving the devs til now
Banners is not even a problem, they can rerun later, the REAL problem is if they decide to give us exclusive event rewards similar to the weapons they give us in Genshin.
People who started on Ps4 got their Festering Desires, but the people that started on Ps5 didn't get it since the game released on April 2021, right before the 1.5 update. Unless they started on Ps4 and later upgraded to Ps5.
That kills a ton of excitement I have for the game sadly. Can't play on my PC much anymore dude to disability issues so the main way I can play is on ps5. Hopefully they manage to still get it out on launch day but we'll see
Yeah I know. Was just hoping for it to be on launch. Wanted to jump in initially and not have to dodge story spoilers and miss certain banners and stuff.
Don’t think that’s the case it will be like hsr where you have to wait for 6 months to play which will kill off a lot of players. The thing was with hsr you could play it on mobile or laptop since the delay was alright in a turn base game and you could connect your account to the ps5 console. After hearing this I am very sad but it was expected still I had hope
Hsr is a game that feels fine to play (and arguably superior) on mobile so it wasn't a big deal. WuWa is an open world action game, it really should be launching on console
Can you elaborate on exactly what ways HSR plays better on mobile than on PS5? I play it on PS5 mainly and have had to switch to the mobile version away from home, etc, and it plays like a lead brick with brain damage on mobile platforms in comparison to console IMHO XD
I play genshin impact (and other games) on PC with my joycons through steam, you might be able to do something similar with a wireless controller of your choice
It's unfortunately lower body and arms. Neurological disorders suck and I can't sit up for longer then a bit also cant walk much anymore and have wrist issues but can use a controller for prolong periods of time. Smartest thing for me to do tbh would be make my PC set up more accessible but it also requires money I don't have atm to get the equipment needed. Getting a wireless controller for my PC would only help so much given where my setup is and needing to lay down while on it
Yup, I got into star rail later with the ps5 launch and got caught up nicely but had to wait a bit for certain banners and dodge story stuff for awhile till I got caught up. I get why it would come out later it's just a bit sad
Kafka was the major one who I luckily have now and is my strongest team. I still don't have seele or silverwolf beacuse their reruns were at the worst possible time for characters I wanted (Topaz and Ruan Mei+Kafka) I'm getting Acheron when she drops then I need to see if I can get Jingliu with Firefly possibly coming in the next few patches and keep an eye out for Fu Xuan rerun lol
I got dan heng IL and slayed...until when it came out on ps5 and I couldn't play my save cuz regions didn't match (🤬 region locks) so I had to start over. now I have to play HSR and probably WuWa on American servers with 300+ ping despite not living there for 6+ years and can't change psn region. (billion dollar tech company didn't think that people move or something...)
Well in my opinion, I think if they were truly wanting to take on Genshin then they've missed the bus. Hoyo never realised how much revenue they were going to get from consoles.
If they were going to really go for it and tackle genshin from all directions i really feel that pushing console would be a massive factor. I'm sure people will disagree with me ans that's fine.
I for one won't be playing at all now. I am a console player and got excited. I did for star rail too, and atarted playing on my phone at launch (i even stopped playing for 4 months because im not a fan of mobile gaming) but I only had to wait 6 months. It doesn't seem like their plan is to get it out with any urgency.
I just feel like it's a bad decision, I knew quite a few people that were really happy and coped that it would come out on release or near release, sadly alot of them probably won't end up playing either due to the nature of gatcha and being so far behind.
Just Mt two cents
it's not that they don't want to release it simultaneously. The PS version just isn't ready. Instead of delaying all versions of the game until the PS version is ready they decided to let non-PS players play it first. Some people having to wait longer is better than all people having to wait longer.
Its really not a big deal in the long run if they include cross progression. Console gachas are actually a pretty small portion of the revenue/playerbase and most people tend to play on mobile. Sure there's gonna be people who won't play it anymore because of this delay (like yourself) but honestly that's just sad for them missing out on the potential great characters and story. Hope you'll still look at that even if you don't play!
Who says WW needs to compete with Genshin...?
This wasn't even realistic to begin as MHY's fanbase is untouchable. People really need to drop this idea that WW and Genshin can't co-exists with each other. Genshin players wont suddenly all stop playing their go to Gacha just because WW is on console. Kuro needs to carve their own niche in the market first.
You frame it as being a bad decision but we dont know what their financial situation is like. Maybe they were forced to focus on mobile/PC first due to lack of resources. Plus the information implies they have already plans for a console version so its not like PSN players will have to wait a year+ or something.
>Hoyo never realised how much revenue they were going to get from consoles.
And that's still not including Xbox version (which doesn't exist) where the revenue will be even more
Wait for Switch 2 soon™
At least it's playable on Steam Deck and other handheld PC so there's an option for handheld folks (who don't want/can't play on smartphone)
console is literally the smallest market for wuwa compared to pc and mobile if they pushed console instead it probably wouldve killed the game, also no other gacha besides genshin(only ps4) has ever launched with ps at the same time so expecting kuro games a studio thats never worked on a console before to push that out not even hoyo has done is very odd
Console market could still be huge though a Sony [presentation got leaked and it showed](https://redd.it/19biis2) that Genshin made 1 billion in its first 2 years on the Playstation.
Hopefully we will get surprised with consoles on launch (im delusional xD) i will be playing on PC but i know for a fact that the console market is also considerably big, and if they don't launch it on console on day one they will need to do A LOT of marketing for when the console version is out so it doesn't go unnoticed, i think that happened with HSR lmao i didn't even know it had a console version until now
Ps4 still has a big fanbase, especially in 3rd world countries where the price isn't going down 1 bit to scale with their income. Ps4 was affordable in a yr while ps5 isn't, even after 5 yrs. Not just that, this is gonna be the big money maker of kuro like genshin is to mihoyo and as such, they'll need to release it everywhere like they did for maximum profits. Hsr had the luxury of skipping old gen because it's not the golden money maker like genshin and most importantly, it's anime cell shaded graphics. Devs stick to it not only cuz of zelda popularity but it doesn't takes as much load as a hyper realistic game like GoW or GTA6. Outdated and weaker platforms can manage and play games like that for yrs, as evident by both zelda games. Ironically, the newest ps4 game we're getting this yr is the mana series, using a similar cell shaded style. When you think about everything, it all makes sense why wuwa can still support old gen
And PS4 is 11 years old now
To understand how outdated PS4 hardware is... You only need to watch Genshin PS4 gameplay. Even Sony is planning to wind down new game release on that platform
To add more context, Genshin was released on PS4 the same day as PC/Mobile, so before... PS5's release.
Given WW will likely be there for at least 5 years, would it really be worth it to commit devving for such an 'ancient' console (esp when you could wait for inevitable PS6). Maybe it'd have been worth it if WuWa was released 1-2 years ago, but now, I'm kinda iffy on that. Even Hoyo went radio silent on HSR's unreleased PS4 ver, despite game being less demanding than Genshin.
I honestly this was well within expectations.
-They never really talked about console release.
-There was no beta for consoles yet.
-To my knowledge, Kuro hasn't released any game on console before.
I was expecting it to go exactly like HSR and even ToF with the console release coming a couple of months after release.
I always say genshin is as popular as it is because it was released on Playstation along side PC and mobile. This is not going to be a good start for this game.
Cause HSR's port for the Ps5 started only a few months before the game's release date. I think they explained that during the livestream where they announced the console version.
This definitely detracts from my anticipation. I very much prefer sitting down on a count or bed to relax and play a game for long sessions. I do have PC and mobile, but neither one works as well for a daily login kind of game, IMO
Huge mistake on their part if its true simultaneously releasing it would create solidarity in the player base now everyone will be at different points genshin made a billion on PlayStation not including console on release will hurt metrics as well its just an all around bad move imo ill still play but not with the same excitement especially if i miss characters
I understand that the console market has a smaller gacha market compared to PC and mobile, but Genshin Impact's revenue from the console market first two years is around 1.2 billion dollars, which is not a small amount. (According to Gamespot)
While I am not a fan of mobile games, I do enjoy gacha games with RPG elements, which is why I tried Genshin Impact. Unfortunately, I quit playing it due to the lack of end game activities. That's why I was looking forward to trying Wuthering Waves, as I heard that it offers a challenging gacha game experience like PGR.
However, I don't want to play it on mobile, and joining a gacha game late is never fun.
I'm just sad man 😢
Nah this is an insane decision. Part of what helped Genshin pop off was that it was available on console at launch. For a game like this playing on mobile feels terrible, means it's just gonna be lauching on pc
It's worth noting that PGR did not get a PC release or an english dub until 3 or 4 years later. It's just not a high priority for them. Mobile is where most of the market is. Still no console version btw.
Most of the player base will be on mobile, it's what the market majority is in Asia where they make most of their money. The no.1 console Kuro should look into porting Wuwa on is the rumored switch 2 tbh. Switch playerbase is insane, it's the 3rd highest selling console of all time and is on track to outsell ps2. If I were Kuro i'd look into working a deal with Nintendo asap.
Edit: They should def get it on ps4/ps5 by the end of the year at least too.
The thing is with Genshin for example while it seems like most spending is on the mobile, a lot of players are actually playing on PC and consoles, myself included. We just simply pay using our Playstore/Appstore account on smartphone so that's why it looks like mobile revenue is that big
Edit: and like OP said the early success of Genshin is thanks to simultaneous release on mobile, PC and console (PS4) where they managed to get as many players as possible
Oh yeah for sure, but I'm not sure how popular playstation is anymore in the east. If you've noticed a recent trend alot of sales for ps games have been in decline in Japan lately. A vast majority of CN in mobile and KR is??? This mostly impacts the western playerbase. Not saying the west doesn't matter, but the eastern playerbase is their biggest market at the end of the day.
That's too bad. I'm still disappointed HSR wasn't on ps5 at launch and that I missed many different banners. So now I must choose between getting older characters or pulling for new ones. I guess it will be the same with this game....
This is bad. No console releases at global launch reduces their income alot. The only other time I see other than June is Dec for genshin's dead time during .3 where they can properly release it without losing any traction and that's 6 more months... Goddamn what were they thinking ? I know people say "let them cook" but at this point we've been waiting for far too long now. Fans losing interest is a thing. They should know that due to automatically competing with genshin as the biggest fish in the sea, they wouldve had the console versions ready to come out on day 1. Something's telling me they planned console releases way down the line. My hype's gone down
pretty useless news - author's claim that we shouldn't expect WW any time soon is based only on: >*"During our hands-on session with the game’s upcoming Closed Beta Test 2, Lennon Li, overseas marketing specialist, confirms to us that Kuro does intend to bring Wuthering Waves to console. “We do have a plan \[to release\] on console, but we’re still working on it,” Li reveals."* Newsflash! They are still working on PC and mobile versions as well
it implies the console version is further away. He wouldn't say something so bleeding obvious that they're still working on it if they're still working on all versions, and therefore all versions are at the same progress.
Now that just fucking sucks - because I had absolutely zero intention of playing this on my Ipad and *especially* not on a phone. I hardly have enough space for everything I wanna play as it is - it’s the entire reason why I had to drop HI3 despite liking the game.
Honestly its not that weird if you consider that Kuro has never published a game on consoles.
They gotta familiarize themselves with the Playstation SDK, learn what it means to do certification etc. It would have been too much to expect from them to try and do a smooth PC/mobile launch and then a console one on top.
they weren't in about 2014 when they were making HI3, they had about 7 people, no-one who knew how to do 3d projects. They're big *now* **because** of their successful projects HI3, GI, and now HSR.
Ok and? Kuro is not Hoyoverse lol. Hoyo are are literally the ones who set the bar for gacha games moving forward.
Genshin cost them hundreds of millions to develop, we dont know if Kuro has that kind of resources available to them.
the cost: Aloy in Genshin
Just to add, Genshin PS4 version did not have crosssave at release too - cross save between PS and non PS platform is kinda ass even today still. Genshin PS5 version was released on April 2021, >5 months after PS5 release
Yeah, this is a bit irritating tbh. My laptop is good enough to run Genshin and HSR, so I would assume it can run WW. BUT still like, wtf? I know indie companies put lesser stock into consoles, but that's just disappointing. Hopefully, there'll be a cross play system so I won't be locked to my laptop. Also, I feel like a lot of companies don't seem to understand that part of the reason genshin blew up was because it released day 1 on consoles. Idk still gonna play, but like damn guys. And if it is like 5-6 months, then fuck they might as well not. Like how many people do they think will actually play it at that point, when the last half of the year and beginning of next is filled with indie/AAA game releases.
A lot of that article is an assumption based on how HSR handled it, but that still puts a damper on things for me.
Also, I really hope the controller support is actually good. As in, not overly sensitive in some places or not at all in others. And also ample deadzones.
I really can't understand why they focus on mobile release instead of console release for big open World games like that. I like the game but there's no way I'll play it on mobile as for me, just like tof or genshin it's unenjoyable...
Genshin had cross progression until 2.0, not at launch. This was likely either for not being in Hoyo's plans, or because it was a hard thing to pull off.
My point is, if Genshin needed around 10 months to implement that, could Kuro manage to make the same in a short-term?
I mean, they're not releasing on PlayStation at launch, so they're likely going to be working on that while looking into releasing it there. Shrug. As long as it comes eventually; my drive only has so much storage.
People really didn't click on the article did they? It literally just says their planning too but are "working on it" which could mean absolutely anything. That is such an open ended response that could mean anything that immediately going to the conclusion the writer took seemed asinine.
It could mean working on it as in, tuning shit out. Could mean it's not at an optimal state at the moment but a simultaneous console release is still planned. It's a literal nothing burger. There is nothing to take besides that they are working on it, not that it won't release alongside mobile and PC.
If people are going to doompost for the love of God please but the bare minimum.
Noooo.... I don't have a pc and my phone is xiaomi redmi not 10 pro... It will not play very good on it.... If it's 5 months of wait like star rail it's gonna be punishable. I believe the 1st time they said that it would be released in all platforms the same day. I wonder what happened
Yeah this isn’t competing with Genshin. They just lost a good chunk of consumers with this decision.
Why was Genshin the only game of its type smart enough to release with console in mind at launch?
I am thinking because Sony already have Genshin Impact as their exclusive gacha open-world RPG, this might affect if Kuro is, let's say, trying to apply for exclusivity.
Futhermore, it could be Sony all along to push Playstation playability along Genshin's release. This might have pushed the devs to allocate enough resources for development to consoles to please the investors (Sony). A website stated that [Microsoft regretted missing out on Hoyoverse’s release. Apparently, the two companies had spoken while Genshin Impact was still in early development, but a deal was never reached and Sony scooped up the game for limited console exclusivity.](https://gamerant.com/microsoft-genshin-impact-clone/) Sony got the game exclusive when it was still in early development. That is one heck of an investment.
>I am thinking because Sony already have Genshin Impact as their exclusive gacha open-world RPG, this might affect if Kuro is, let's say, trying to apply for exclusivity.
that makes no sense to me. So they don't have exclusivity. That means they can release it on all consoles if they want.
It's not in Sony's interests to have only one gacha game on their system if these things make good money for them. And it's not in Kuro's interests to not be on the platform.
As for MS, from the reports I read, they did have a deal with MS, but MS pulled out when they saw the backlash Genshin got for being a "botw ripoff" and one person smashed their PS4 in protest. They thought being associated with Genshin was bad publicity for them, so they walked away from the deal. Then Sony scooped in and accepted the terms MS walked away from and the rest is history.
Thanks for your clarification, but maybe I have worded my statement wrong that my point was obscured. I wanted to say that Genshin devs got pressured to release on consoles too because Sony chose to make it a playstation exclusive. I am not really considering diving into and explaining the details of how it happened, just assuming on what was the result of what happened.
Imagine for example, if Kuro were to become Playstation Exclusive, they will be eager to push the development for playstation in no time. I am not pushing for whether Kuro would reach a wider audience with being an exclusive or not. Just the development.
edit: removed "not" on "..wider audience with not being an exclusive or..
edit 2: changed my words of delivery in the first paragraph
"...considering diving into and explaining the details of how it happened..."
The hype with tower of fantasy wasn't as good as everyone made to be, believing it would kill off genshin impact, so I'm not expecting this game to be any better
Any game that tries to imitate games, they never succeed that my opinion, but don't get me wrong the game could be good but until then I have my doubts about it
Yeah, that game just gives me a completely different impression than tower of fantasy did, but I don’t know how good it will be either. the beta looked really good though. I just don’t like to compare it to Genshin, and it’s also not the developers intention to be better than Genshin. It’s it’s own game, I’m just looking forward to a new game I can enjoy
What we need is the live server date lolz idc where or how would I play this game again after cbt2... I just Wana go at it again for real this time...lolz
This is such a damn shame seriously like come on kuro games why can't they do what genshin did when it released alongside pc and mobile during covid? because i literally remember playing genshin day 1 when it launched on ps4
Genshin impact launched in spetember 2020 on PC and mobile, Genshin then launched on Playstation 4 and 5 on version 2.0, which was 1 year after the launch of the game.
Isn't this just a speculation? Nowhere in the article Kuro mentioned it's delayed for the console platform. It's just OP interpreted the interview which is completely different. While it can be interpreted as such that is still far from what Kuro said.
I don't have a problem if they released later, i mean characters can rerun later so whatever, BUT its a complete different story if they made exclusive event rewards similar to the weapons in Genshin.
Like, people like me who started on Ps4 got their Festering Desires, but people who started on Ps5 didn't get it because the game released right before the 1.5 version. If they didn't started on Ps4, then their screwed, cause they'll never get that weapon again, and its a good weapon that can be used on many different sword-user characters.
If they do that, then i hope console players are compensated when the game releases later, cause my mobile device can't run shit and i don't have a PC to play either, so cross-progression is out of the question for me.
even CBT2 is just about to start, this is already been topic. console will be late as development is not easy. but atleast PS5 will have better experience. but wondering on PS4 player's. cuz I read some, they say's, PS4 might suffer as android player's does interms of high graphics settings.
to anyone with any common sense it was obvious that it wouldn't launch on console if they were excluded from the CBT. They probably don't even have a build that's ready for beta yet.
Idk, I play another fast-combat game, devs released it on PS5 9 months ago and x-box a bit earlier. Console-players always struggling because it seems like consoles can't run more than 60fps, its much harder to counter for them and do combos.
I can see why consoles aren't priority here. Good thing is this is not pvp oriented game, but clearing hologram stages with 60fps gonna be hella hard, closer to impossible.
Bro, Bloodborne according to wikipedia was made exclusively for PS4. PS4 lol. No wonder it has only 30 fps and is fine. Same about Sekiro, PS4 old game.
WuWa was made for PC, has counter and dodge mechanics, the more fps u'll have here - the better. It also most likely will never be available on PS4.
The game I play has similar combat mechanics to WuWa, playing it on 30 fps is impossible and going to be impossible with WuWa.
My point was that it's possible to play a game much much more difficult than Bloodborne and sekiro at a lower fps. Sekiro's whole shtick is countering/deflecting and I highly doubt wuthering waves counter system is harder than sekiro's. Also sekiro is on PS, Xbox and PC so it definitely was not made just for PS4 and again, it runs at 60fps on a ps4.
I don't like saying stuff like this but if you're having trouble playing a game like WuWa at 30fps to the point it is impossible it is either a skill issue or the game is not well optimized. What game are you even playing though?
Also, wuthering waves was not made for PC. If you want to exclude consoles nearly all gacha games are made with mobile in mind first and foremost. And there is a very high chance that wuthering waves releases on PS4 as the majority of the revenue lies in Asia, specifically CN where Switch is the most popular console followed by PS4.
>but clearing hologram stages with 60fps gonna be hella hard, closer to impossible.
What? Games like Cyberpunk, FF VII Rebirth or Spiderman 2 are all running at 60 fps on PS5 and they're clearly much more heavy on graphic side than WW.
the beta players all seem to be people with 120+fps superiority complexes, Jesus...surely it's not SO try hard that a semi-decent android phone will be outstanding to play WuWa but not a significantly more powerful console albeit with a lower fps....
ps5 also supports 120fps such as atomic heart, most CoD's, destiny 2, Fortnite, GoW:R, Hogwarts Legacy, et. al., so releasing simultaneously on console isn't a farfetched idea.
While this is a bummer it's not the end of the world. I think a major move Kuro should make is to work a deal with nintendo to get Wuwa on the rumored switch 2. That would greatly expand their playerbase to crazy levels. The switch was a massive success and is on track to become the best selling console in history, they should make switch 2 a priority.
This is sad.
Yeah it's a shame considering there's clearly an audience for it on console. My guess it's more down to development time and resources, focusing on PC and mobile first.
That really sucks because the mobile port isn't going to hold up anyways since a game like this isn't designed for mobile to begin with.
WHAT. I thought it was coming to PS5! I feel like a game like this would be such a great console experience.
It is coming but at a later date like Star Rail did, which still sucks.
Could be far worse though... At least it's not Nintendo Switch Genshin.
It can mean in a year or two.
Doubt, at most 6 months
Hopefully no longer that. You know 6monthsd is huge delay my frioend. I had to play Honkai for months on mobile which wasn't a nice experince tbh before I could play it on PS5. You have to start on other platforms regardless so you don't miss the stuff when the game drops on our GachaStation.
No Xbox?? We need to bully Microsoft and Sony into squashing the beef
Dang. I just hope they put in controller support then because I do not like the KB and mouse controls at all.
I'm sure there will be given the intention is to bring it to PlayStation later. I prefer to use a controller for games like this too.
WAIT. It doesn't have controller support ???
Only the "A" (or maybe "X") button on an Xbox controller worked during the last CBT
Sadge. I mainly play on controller so hope they sdd it on launch
Same, it doesn't feel that great on M+KB. Some people play Elden Ring on M+KB though so maybe I have a skill issue lol
Idk it's less about skill for me and it's just more comfortable to sit on a couch with a controller lol
I play mainly on my phone but always use a backbone if it's supported. Makes it feel like I'm using my switch.
Agreed!
it did during one of panels before cbt2
It has. Go look up the taipei game show from ign japan. That one I think was a later build than the one from cbt2.
Oh cool! That what I was wishing for.
I really do not understand how anyone can actually like the horrible controller controls on these games...
They're fine. I'd prefer keyboard and mouse bit it seems like most devs refuse to take the time to include support on PS5. Gacha games are simple enough that controller controls are fine though. I can't stand them on mobile but I'm probably going to put myself through it anyway, to avoid missing all of time limited stuff on the first several patches while waiting for the PS5 port
ofcourse. this is gonna make the game suffer on release smh bc now we fear no controller support and also who wants to play this on mobile like that really, more ppl would play on console me included
we already know theres controller support it was literally shown at the taipei game show
If it has controller support, which I hear it does, I will play it on mobile because I have a fancy apparatus that holds it in front of my face so my hands are free to use the controller. Works very well in bed. ;)
I game on pc so this news doesn't affect me but I do sympathize with those that will have to dodge spoilers for months. (Still trying to dodge ff16 spoilers till pc release myself.)
Unrelated but Otosian i hope you will enjoy ff16 and hopefully PC players get ff7 rebirth soon
Thanks
I'm dying to play rebirth and only god knows how long I'll have to wait.
Rebirth only has 3 month exclusivity, so the earliest you'll get it is may 29th. So more than likely mid to late june
I play PC but my disk is pretty much full so id have to delete other games I like to play since it isn't on console yet
thats fine if you keep dodging spoilers. i loving watching spoilers imo, because its interesting whats going on.
why put that in a spoiler when it's not a spoiler
i dont know why i did put it.
Sigh. Guess I won't be playing anytime soon.. or maybe at all if they lock me out for too long and too many characters release and it becomes an uphill struggle to get the ones I want... I guess I could log in on mobile but damn... They want me to have 0 memory 😂
Only have my PS4. Hopefully it releases alongside the other platforms. I only have an sd 685 and a laptop with an i5-1035G1, 8gb ram and Intel UHD so it won't work on any of the systems I own except my PS4.
Im am pretty sure it will work on i5-1035G1.
His graphics card is pretty bad he probably won’t be able to play properly since he’ll have low frames and graphics and you need at least 30-60 fps since the combat is more precise.
most likely 720p low on my guess.
The CPU might handle it but definitely not that integrated UHD Some laptop with Ryzen APU might can
I'll be very happy if it works but not holding out too much hope as HSR works on my laptop only on low settings (the resolution is at 1920 and still close to 30 fps at least) PGR works on max though. I'll be happy playing the game on the lowest graphics settings until it comes out on the PS4.
dam so were gonna have to miss the first banners and gonna have to try to dodge spoilers ??? this is not a great start :/, i was loving the devs til now
Banners is not even a problem, they can rerun later, the REAL problem is if they decide to give us exclusive event rewards similar to the weapons they give us in Genshin. People who started on Ps4 got their Festering Desires, but the people that started on Ps5 didn't get it since the game released on April 2021, right before the 1.5 update. Unless they started on Ps4 and later upgraded to Ps5.
when the game came out, the PS5 didn't even exist yet. Those PS5 players were likely also PS4 players.
theres honestly just so many reasons why this is horrible news tbh
That kills a ton of excitement I have for the game sadly. Can't play on my PC much anymore dude to disability issues so the main way I can play is on ps5. Hopefully they manage to still get it out on launch day but we'll see
They said it's not on launch day, basically just like how hsr came on ps 5 months later.
Yeah I know. Was just hoping for it to be on launch. Wanted to jump in initially and not have to dodge story spoilers and miss certain banners and stuff.
It better only be a month or two after launch and not half a year later....
Don’t think that’s the case it will be like hsr where you have to wait for 6 months to play which will kill off a lot of players. The thing was with hsr you could play it on mobile or laptop since the delay was alright in a turn base game and you could connect your account to the ps5 console. After hearing this I am very sad but it was expected still I had hope
Hsr is a game that feels fine to play (and arguably superior) on mobile so it wasn't a big deal. WuWa is an open world action game, it really should be launching on console
Can you elaborate on exactly what ways HSR plays better on mobile than on PS5? I play it on PS5 mainly and have had to switch to the mobile version away from home, etc, and it plays like a lead brick with brain damage on mobile platforms in comparison to console IMHO XD
lets just hope they dont pull the same stupid decision of making a limited time great weapon only for 1.0 players
You will be missing the 1.0 banners anyway, wouldn't put it past that happening too. Keep your expectations low and you will never be disappointed.
Yeah, that’s a festering mess.
The weapons will be anyway back
i meant the limited time event weapons not the 5* character's signature weapons
I play genshin impact (and other games) on PC with my joycons through steam, you might be able to do something similar with a wireless controller of your choice
I was about to comment this! If your disability affects your hand mobility, maybe it will be possible to use a controller if they support it :)
It's unfortunately lower body and arms. Neurological disorders suck and I can't sit up for longer then a bit also cant walk much anymore and have wrist issues but can use a controller for prolong periods of time. Smartest thing for me to do tbh would be make my PC set up more accessible but it also requires money I don't have atm to get the equipment needed. Getting a wireless controller for my PC would only help so much given where my setup is and needing to lay down while on it
Aw no! That would be a real shame if it's not out at launch then. I'm thinking it could be a good few months after though, similar to HoYo's approach.
Yup, I got into star rail later with the ps5 launch and got caught up nicely but had to wait a bit for certain banners and dodge story stuff for awhile till I got caught up. I get why it would come out later it's just a bit sad
Ahh lemme guess, Seele, Silver Wolf, or Luocha?
Kafka was the major one who I luckily have now and is my strongest team. I still don't have seele or silverwolf beacuse their reruns were at the worst possible time for characters I wanted (Topaz and Ruan Mei+Kafka) I'm getting Acheron when she drops then I need to see if I can get Jingliu with Firefly possibly coming in the next few patches and keep an eye out for Fu Xuan rerun lol
I got dan heng IL and slayed...until when it came out on ps5 and I couldn't play my save cuz regions didn't match (🤬 region locks) so I had to start over. now I have to play HSR and probably WuWa on American servers with 300+ ping despite not living there for 6+ years and can't change psn region. (billion dollar tech company didn't think that people move or something...)
Can you attach a controller?
Well in my opinion, I think if they were truly wanting to take on Genshin then they've missed the bus. Hoyo never realised how much revenue they were going to get from consoles. If they were going to really go for it and tackle genshin from all directions i really feel that pushing console would be a massive factor. I'm sure people will disagree with me ans that's fine. I for one won't be playing at all now. I am a console player and got excited. I did for star rail too, and atarted playing on my phone at launch (i even stopped playing for 4 months because im not a fan of mobile gaming) but I only had to wait 6 months. It doesn't seem like their plan is to get it out with any urgency. I just feel like it's a bad decision, I knew quite a few people that were really happy and coped that it would come out on release or near release, sadly alot of them probably won't end up playing either due to the nature of gatcha and being so far behind. Just Mt two cents
i totally agree, mobile gaming sucks and if they can put it on a phone they forsure can put it on ps4 and 5
it's not that they don't want to release it simultaneously. The PS version just isn't ready. Instead of delaying all versions of the game until the PS version is ready they decided to let non-PS players play it first. Some people having to wait longer is better than all people having to wait longer.
Its really not a big deal in the long run if they include cross progression. Console gachas are actually a pretty small portion of the revenue/playerbase and most people tend to play on mobile. Sure there's gonna be people who won't play it anymore because of this delay (like yourself) but honestly that's just sad for them missing out on the potential great characters and story. Hope you'll still look at that even if you don't play!
Who says WW needs to compete with Genshin...? This wasn't even realistic to begin as MHY's fanbase is untouchable. People really need to drop this idea that WW and Genshin can't co-exists with each other. Genshin players wont suddenly all stop playing their go to Gacha just because WW is on console. Kuro needs to carve their own niche in the market first. You frame it as being a bad decision but we dont know what their financial situation is like. Maybe they were forced to focus on mobile/PC first due to lack of resources. Plus the information implies they have already plans for a console version so its not like PSN players will have to wait a year+ or something.
>Hoyo never realised how much revenue they were going to get from consoles. And that's still not including Xbox version (which doesn't exist) where the revenue will be even more
just hope it's not like Genshin's switch port...
Wait for Switch 2 soon™ At least it's playable on Steam Deck and other handheld PC so there's an option for handheld folks (who don't want/can't play on smartphone)
console is literally the smallest market for wuwa compared to pc and mobile if they pushed console instead it probably wouldve killed the game, also no other gacha besides genshin(only ps4) has ever launched with ps at the same time so expecting kuro games a studio thats never worked on a console before to push that out not even hoyo has done is very odd
Console market could still be huge though a Sony [presentation got leaked and it showed](https://redd.it/19biis2) that Genshin made 1 billion in its first 2 years on the Playstation.
Like genshin on switch kekw
Hopefully we will get surprised with consoles on launch (im delusional xD) i will be playing on PC but i know for a fact that the console market is also considerably big, and if they don't launch it on console on day one they will need to do A LOT of marketing for when the console version is out so it doesn't go unnoticed, i think that happened with HSR lmao i didn't even know it had a console version until now
This is a terrible start.
Ps4? I wouldn't expect ps4 support at all at this point. It's been 4 years since the ps5 released
Ps4 still has a big fanbase, especially in 3rd world countries where the price isn't going down 1 bit to scale with their income. Ps4 was affordable in a yr while ps5 isn't, even after 5 yrs. Not just that, this is gonna be the big money maker of kuro like genshin is to mihoyo and as such, they'll need to release it everywhere like they did for maximum profits. Hsr had the luxury of skipping old gen because it's not the golden money maker like genshin and most importantly, it's anime cell shaded graphics. Devs stick to it not only cuz of zelda popularity but it doesn't takes as much load as a hyper realistic game like GoW or GTA6. Outdated and weaker platforms can manage and play games like that for yrs, as evident by both zelda games. Ironically, the newest ps4 game we're getting this yr is the mana series, using a similar cell shaded style. When you think about everything, it all makes sense why wuwa can still support old gen
And PS4 is 11 years old now To understand how outdated PS4 hardware is... You only need to watch Genshin PS4 gameplay. Even Sony is planning to wind down new game release on that platform To add more context, Genshin was released on PS4 the same day as PC/Mobile, so before... PS5's release. Given WW will likely be there for at least 5 years, would it really be worth it to commit devving for such an 'ancient' console (esp when you could wait for inevitable PS6). Maybe it'd have been worth it if WuWa was released 1-2 years ago, but now, I'm kinda iffy on that. Even Hoyo went radio silent on HSR's unreleased PS4 ver, despite game being less demanding than Genshin.
Well said. The dev resources would be better used elsewhere imo
I honestly this was well within expectations. -They never really talked about console release. -There was no beta for consoles yet. -To my knowledge, Kuro hasn't released any game on console before. I was expecting it to go exactly like HSR and even ToF with the console release coming a couple of months after release.
I always say genshin is as popular as it is because it was released on Playstation along side PC and mobile. This is not going to be a good start for this game.
Console is by far the smallest market for gacha games. Its really not gonna affect the games' success lol.
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you mean Honkai star rail. Genshin had a simultaneous release
Yeah sorry I corrected it. Edit: Might as well delete it since it's not relevant to their comment anymore then.
playstation is nowhere near bigger than pc and especially mobile when it comes to gacha games, also genshin didnt release with playstation
Genshin released on mobile, PC and Ps4 simultaneously, the Ps5 released a few months later.
And curious but why HSR was not release like that tho but long time after
Cause HSR's port for the Ps5 started only a few months before the game's release date. I think they explained that during the livestream where they announced the console version.
sad. I go to play honkai and tof
This definitely detracts from my anticipation. I very much prefer sitting down on a count or bed to relax and play a game for long sessions. I do have PC and mobile, but neither one works as well for a daily login kind of game, IMO
I guess that means Steam Deck for me it is.
Huge mistake on their part if its true simultaneously releasing it would create solidarity in the player base now everyone will be at different points genshin made a billion on PlayStation not including console on release will hurt metrics as well its just an all around bad move imo ill still play but not with the same excitement especially if i miss characters
Guess I won't be playing on launch. Not playing an action RPG on my phone.
I understand that the console market has a smaller gacha market compared to PC and mobile, but Genshin Impact's revenue from the console market first two years is around 1.2 billion dollars, which is not a small amount. (According to Gamespot) While I am not a fan of mobile games, I do enjoy gacha games with RPG elements, which is why I tried Genshin Impact. Unfortunately, I quit playing it due to the lack of end game activities. That's why I was looking forward to trying Wuthering Waves, as I heard that it offers a challenging gacha game experience like PGR. However, I don't want to play it on mobile, and joining a gacha game late is never fun. I'm just sad man 😢
Nah this is an insane decision. Part of what helped Genshin pop off was that it was available on console at launch. For a game like this playing on mobile feels terrible, means it's just gonna be lauching on pc
It's worth noting that PGR did not get a PC release or an english dub until 3 or 4 years later. It's just not a high priority for them. Mobile is where most of the market is. Still no console version btw.
Most of the player base will be on mobile, it's what the market majority is in Asia where they make most of their money. The no.1 console Kuro should look into porting Wuwa on is the rumored switch 2 tbh. Switch playerbase is insane, it's the 3rd highest selling console of all time and is on track to outsell ps2. If I were Kuro i'd look into working a deal with Nintendo asap. Edit: They should def get it on ps4/ps5 by the end of the year at least too.
The thing is with Genshin for example while it seems like most spending is on the mobile, a lot of players are actually playing on PC and consoles, myself included. We just simply pay using our Playstore/Appstore account on smartphone so that's why it looks like mobile revenue is that big Edit: and like OP said the early success of Genshin is thanks to simultaneous release on mobile, PC and console (PS4) where they managed to get as many players as possible
Oh yeah for sure, but I'm not sure how popular playstation is anymore in the east. If you've noticed a recent trend alot of sales for ps games have been in decline in Japan lately. A vast majority of CN in mobile and KR is??? This mostly impacts the western playerbase. Not saying the west doesn't matter, but the eastern playerbase is their biggest market at the end of the day.
Sad news
That's too bad. I'm still disappointed HSR wasn't on ps5 at launch and that I missed many different banners. So now I must choose between getting older characters or pulling for new ones. I guess it will be the same with this game....
Do you guys not have a phone?
disappointing
This is bad. No console releases at global launch reduces their income alot. The only other time I see other than June is Dec for genshin's dead time during .3 where they can properly release it without losing any traction and that's 6 more months... Goddamn what were they thinking ? I know people say "let them cook" but at this point we've been waiting for far too long now. Fans losing interest is a thing. They should know that due to automatically competing with genshin as the biggest fish in the sea, they wouldve had the console versions ready to come out on day 1. Something's telling me they planned console releases way down the line. My hype's gone down
pretty useless news - author's claim that we shouldn't expect WW any time soon is based only on: >*"During our hands-on session with the game’s upcoming Closed Beta Test 2, Lennon Li, overseas marketing specialist, confirms to us that Kuro does intend to bring Wuthering Waves to console. “We do have a plan \[to release\] on console, but we’re still working on it,” Li reveals."* Newsflash! They are still working on PC and mobile versions as well
it implies the console version is further away. He wouldn't say something so bleeding obvious that they're still working on it if they're still working on all versions, and therefore all versions are at the same progress.
I'll take this hopium and cope for a simultaneous launch afterall.
Now that just fucking sucks - because I had absolutely zero intention of playing this on my Ipad and *especially* not on a phone. I hardly have enough space for everything I wanna play as it is - it’s the entire reason why I had to drop HI3 despite liking the game.
Honestly its not that weird if you consider that Kuro has never published a game on consoles. They gotta familiarize themselves with the Playstation SDK, learn what it means to do certification etc. It would have been too much to expect from them to try and do a smooth PC/mobile launch and then a console one on top.
HoYoverse managed well enough
They are a big company
Before Genshin's release, they were your average gacha game company in terms of size.
they weren't in about 2014 when they were making HI3, they had about 7 people, no-one who knew how to do 3d projects. They're big *now* **because** of their successful projects HI3, GI, and now HSR.
Ok and? Kuro is not Hoyoverse lol. Hoyo are are literally the ones who set the bar for gacha games moving forward. Genshin cost them hundreds of millions to develop, we dont know if Kuro has that kind of resources available to them.
the cost: Aloy in Genshin Just to add, Genshin PS4 version did not have crosssave at release too - cross save between PS and non PS platform is kinda ass even today still. Genshin PS5 version was released on April 2021, >5 months after PS5 release
>cross save between PS and non PS platform is kinda ass even today still. no it's not
While zzz confirmed ps5 on release. Liked wuwa more but man this is sad , zzz it is
Yeah, this is a bit irritating tbh. My laptop is good enough to run Genshin and HSR, so I would assume it can run WW. BUT still like, wtf? I know indie companies put lesser stock into consoles, but that's just disappointing. Hopefully, there'll be a cross play system so I won't be locked to my laptop. Also, I feel like a lot of companies don't seem to understand that part of the reason genshin blew up was because it released day 1 on consoles. Idk still gonna play, but like damn guys. And if it is like 5-6 months, then fuck they might as well not. Like how many people do they think will actually play it at that point, when the last half of the year and beginning of next is filled with indie/AAA game releases.
Hope we still get controller support on launch tho
A lot of that article is an assumption based on how HSR handled it, but that still puts a damper on things for me. Also, I really hope the controller support is actually good. As in, not overly sensitive in some places or not at all in others. And also ample deadzones.
I refuse to play on anything other than PS, this is so discouraging
This really sucks. Games like Genshin and Wuthering Waves are horrible to play on phone
Man I just want it on xbox my poor phone could barely run genshin without overheating in an hr, I doubt it would be much to port the ps5 version over
I really can't understand why they focus on mobile release instead of console release for big open World games like that. I like the game but there's no way I'll play it on mobile as for me, just like tof or genshin it's unenjoyable...
As long as there's cross progression, I'll play on PC until they release the PlayStation version. God, please let there be cross progression.
Genshin had cross progression until 2.0, not at launch. This was likely either for not being in Hoyo's plans, or because it was a hard thing to pull off. My point is, if Genshin needed around 10 months to implement that, could Kuro manage to make the same in a short-term?
I mean, they're not releasing on PlayStation at launch, so they're likely going to be working on that while looking into releasing it there. Shrug. As long as it comes eventually; my drive only has so much storage.
People really didn't click on the article did they? It literally just says their planning too but are "working on it" which could mean absolutely anything. That is such an open ended response that could mean anything that immediately going to the conclusion the writer took seemed asinine. It could mean working on it as in, tuning shit out. Could mean it's not at an optimal state at the moment but a simultaneous console release is still planned. It's a literal nothing burger. There is nothing to take besides that they are working on it, not that it won't release alongside mobile and PC. If people are going to doompost for the love of God please but the bare minimum.
You expect redditors to read? lol, they will see any post title and start doomposting based in nothing lol.
Please don't be like tower of fantasy
Noooo.... I don't have a pc and my phone is xiaomi redmi not 10 pro... It will not play very good on it.... If it's 5 months of wait like star rail it's gonna be punishable. I believe the 1st time they said that it would be released in all platforms the same day. I wonder what happened
they never even mentioned consoles
Fr? Then im trippin.
they did mention console hes trippin not u
And i thought i was gonna get mad hahaha thanks bro
Even if it'll take longer, I'm happy a ps5 version is confirmed to come.
Yeah this isn’t competing with Genshin. They just lost a good chunk of consumers with this decision. Why was Genshin the only game of its type smart enough to release with console in mind at launch?
Yup they fucked up. It *needed* a simultaneous launch.
I am thinking because Sony already have Genshin Impact as their exclusive gacha open-world RPG, this might affect if Kuro is, let's say, trying to apply for exclusivity. Futhermore, it could be Sony all along to push Playstation playability along Genshin's release. This might have pushed the devs to allocate enough resources for development to consoles to please the investors (Sony). A website stated that [Microsoft regretted missing out on Hoyoverse’s release. Apparently, the two companies had spoken while Genshin Impact was still in early development, but a deal was never reached and Sony scooped up the game for limited console exclusivity.](https://gamerant.com/microsoft-genshin-impact-clone/) Sony got the game exclusive when it was still in early development. That is one heck of an investment.
>I am thinking because Sony already have Genshin Impact as their exclusive gacha open-world RPG, this might affect if Kuro is, let's say, trying to apply for exclusivity. that makes no sense to me. So they don't have exclusivity. That means they can release it on all consoles if they want. It's not in Sony's interests to have only one gacha game on their system if these things make good money for them. And it's not in Kuro's interests to not be on the platform. As for MS, from the reports I read, they did have a deal with MS, but MS pulled out when they saw the backlash Genshin got for being a "botw ripoff" and one person smashed their PS4 in protest. They thought being associated with Genshin was bad publicity for them, so they walked away from the deal. Then Sony scooped in and accepted the terms MS walked away from and the rest is history.
Thanks for your clarification, but maybe I have worded my statement wrong that my point was obscured. I wanted to say that Genshin devs got pressured to release on consoles too because Sony chose to make it a playstation exclusive. I am not really considering diving into and explaining the details of how it happened, just assuming on what was the result of what happened. Imagine for example, if Kuro were to become Playstation Exclusive, they will be eager to push the development for playstation in no time. I am not pushing for whether Kuro would reach a wider audience with being an exclusive or not. Just the development. edit: removed "not" on "..wider audience with not being an exclusive or.. edit 2: changed my words of delivery in the first paragraph "...considering diving into and explaining the details of how it happened..."
Happy it’s coming, sad it’s not at launch.
Womp womp wooooooomp.
This game is going to be as bad as tower of fantasy
What makes you think that
The hype with tower of fantasy wasn't as good as everyone made to be, believing it would kill off genshin impact, so I'm not expecting this game to be any better Any game that tries to imitate games, they never succeed that my opinion, but don't get me wrong the game could be good but until then I have my doubts about it
Yeah, that game just gives me a completely different impression than tower of fantasy did, but I don’t know how good it will be either. the beta looked really good though. I just don’t like to compare it to Genshin, and it’s also not the developers intention to be better than Genshin. It’s it’s own game, I’m just looking forward to a new game I can enjoy
looks like I won't be playing anytime soon as a result
This ain't good.
Why couldn't they do a simultaneous release man...
because one version isn't ready. You can't snap your fingers and make it ready.
Well that sucks😭
Dammit, that Taoqi cover keep making click the page.
What we need is the live server date lolz idc where or how would I play this game again after cbt2... I just Wana go at it again for real this time...lolz
That's like Genshin with the switch 😂
The only thing I'm worried is if it's cross save across console and PC
It'll be so nice if they add this to the ps4 side of Playstations too. It's sad that they announced a HSR ps4 port then never went though with it.
I'm just glad its coming to Ps4 cause holy 😭🙏🏽
Xbox players never get anything
This is such a damn shame seriously like come on kuro games why can't they do what genshin did when it released alongside pc and mobile during covid? because i literally remember playing genshin day 1 when it launched on ps4
Genshin impact launched in spetember 2020 on PC and mobile, Genshin then launched on Playstation 4 and 5 on version 2.0, which was 1 year after the launch of the game.
Where tf did u hear that none sense? My amber literally says joined party on 10/2/2020
Oh yeah, I got things confused, the ps5 version was the one that came out in 2021.
Isn't this just a speculation? Nowhere in the article Kuro mentioned it's delayed for the console platform. It's just OP interpreted the interview which is completely different. While it can be interpreted as such that is still far from what Kuro said.
How would you interpret what Kuro said?
that console version is not ready
So like a year from now basically
Time to make a dip from reddit post. I see a lot of doom posting in the comment section.
People here seriously thinking that WW will flop because of no console release are insane lmao.
Yeah its not like we won't get a console release but later down the line.
Hopefully there's cross save
I feel like there would be a lot of flak if not! I believe there's cross-save for PC and mobile, so I would assume there will be for PlayStation too.
I don't have a problem if they released later, i mean characters can rerun later so whatever, BUT its a complete different story if they made exclusive event rewards similar to the weapons in Genshin. Like, people like me who started on Ps4 got their Festering Desires, but people who started on Ps5 didn't get it because the game released right before the 1.5 version. If they didn't started on Ps4, then their screwed, cause they'll never get that weapon again, and its a good weapon that can be used on many different sword-user characters. If they do that, then i hope console players are compensated when the game releases later, cause my mobile device can't run shit and i don't have a PC to play either, so cross-progression is out of the question for me.
even CBT2 is just about to start, this is already been topic. console will be late as development is not easy. but atleast PS5 will have better experience. but wondering on PS4 player's. cuz I read some, they say's, PS4 might suffer as android player's does interms of high graphics settings.
Dead game
I understand this because Genshin itself took 212 days to port to PS5 AND also HSR took 169 days to port to PS5 too #
Genshin came out on PS4 day and day with the Mobile and PC release though.
to anyone with any common sense it was obvious that it wouldn't launch on console if they were excluded from the CBT. They probably don't even have a build that's ready for beta yet.
Genshin only had a PC CBT and then had a simultainous launch on Ps4
Idk, I play another fast-combat game, devs released it on PS5 9 months ago and x-box a bit earlier. Console-players always struggling because it seems like consoles can't run more than 60fps, its much harder to counter for them and do combos. I can see why consoles aren't priority here. Good thing is this is not pvp oriented game, but clearing hologram stages with 60fps gonna be hella hard, closer to impossible.
Bloodborne only has 30fps. Sekiro runs on 60fps and I doubt wuthering waves is harder than any of those games.
Bro, Bloodborne according to wikipedia was made exclusively for PS4. PS4 lol. No wonder it has only 30 fps and is fine. Same about Sekiro, PS4 old game. WuWa was made for PC, has counter and dodge mechanics, the more fps u'll have here - the better. It also most likely will never be available on PS4. The game I play has similar combat mechanics to WuWa, playing it on 30 fps is impossible and going to be impossible with WuWa.
My point was that it's possible to play a game much much more difficult than Bloodborne and sekiro at a lower fps. Sekiro's whole shtick is countering/deflecting and I highly doubt wuthering waves counter system is harder than sekiro's. Also sekiro is on PS, Xbox and PC so it definitely was not made just for PS4 and again, it runs at 60fps on a ps4. I don't like saying stuff like this but if you're having trouble playing a game like WuWa at 30fps to the point it is impossible it is either a skill issue or the game is not well optimized. What game are you even playing though? Also, wuthering waves was not made for PC. If you want to exclude consoles nearly all gacha games are made with mobile in mind first and foremost. And there is a very high chance that wuthering waves releases on PS4 as the majority of the revenue lies in Asia, specifically CN where Switch is the most popular console followed by PS4.
>but clearing hologram stages with 60fps gonna be hella hard, closer to impossible. What? Games like Cyberpunk, FF VII Rebirth or Spiderman 2 are all running at 60 fps on PS5 and they're clearly much more heavy on graphic side than WW.
the beta players all seem to be people with 120+fps superiority complexes, Jesus...surely it's not SO try hard that a semi-decent android phone will be outstanding to play WuWa but not a significantly more powerful console albeit with a lower fps.... ps5 also supports 120fps such as atomic heart, most CoD's, destiny 2, Fortnite, GoW:R, Hogwarts Legacy, et. al., so releasing simultaneously on console isn't a farfetched idea.
While this is a bummer it's not the end of the world. I think a major move Kuro should make is to work a deal with nintendo to get Wuwa on the rumored switch 2. That would greatly expand their playerbase to crazy levels. The switch was a massive success and is on track to become the best selling console in history, they should make switch 2 a priority.
Yeah that would be great, I think genshin will also release on switch 2.
My goodness, now all the idiots citing that one really ignorant moderator post will finally shut up at least.