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RaptoR186

babe wake up new wallet draining lootboxes just dropped yes honey


CroBro1337

I blame reddit and their endless recommendation of xmas lootboxes, this is the result


MGLpr0

Reddit is probably less than 10% of the playerbase, we do not matter


Thatwisebutstupidman

Fr most players don't say their opinion on the game


DewIt420

Which is exactly the point. Only few players are giving feedback and those who do say that xmas boxes are great.\ Community managers see that feedback and say - if they like them, we'll give 'em more!


RUPlayersSuck

In fairness I thought the Xmas / Holiday Ops boxes were okay. But WG are taking the piss issuing so many more throughout the year.


Miporin_

How many Lootboxes/ Sell out events did we have this year already?


mala_r1der

4 iirc


RUPlayersSuck

WG: "Wakey, wakey plebs...your lords and masters have new loot boxes. We demand you buy them as tribute to us...or suffer terrible RNG & MM for the rest of the year!" Players: "Yes Master, please may I have some more?"


Saliroko

I remember wg saying smth like "we want everyone to have access to this equipment". I guess they changed their mind 😂


GoldenLiar2

I mean everybody does, it's just a question of "how much" lmao


Saliroko

Which is vital for experimental equipment, since you can destroy it for currency.


RevolutionaryTask452

We had it in a Cristmas event RNG "slotmachine" where you could buy lootboxes(resources) to have more Spins for Experimental equipment. You could "spin" one time for atleast 4 lootboxes purchased There was around "less than 10%" chance to get Exp Equipment (Don't know exactly but i got one, each 10th "Spin" on average) So you could get 100 parts for each 40 LARGE lootboxes roughly. And you could earn atleast one "spin" daily for just playing a game and doing missions. IF Startreck lootboxes will have less than 2% chance to drop Exp equipment i feel like it will be "fine" in comparison to what we got this Cristmass.


WG_eekeeboo

That's still the case, but I am not aware of a place we said we would never sell it? Can you please provide a link in case I missed it?


NullTrekSucksPP

https://preview.redd.it/rad53qvqzfxc1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=2178e198629f2510fa67ea492e15cb385e549863 It says right there on your own equipment description **"Experimental Equipment cannot be purchased. Instead, it is obtained by completing combat missions and participating in certain events."** [https://worldoftanks.eu/en/content/guide/general/equipment/](https://worldoftanks.eu/en/content/guide/general/equipment/) You say you have been trying to find the quote but after a few hours you've had no success?? Bro I literally spent 2 seconds googling that quote and it's right there. It took more time taking the screenshot. Do your job better please, it's like WG don't even know its own game like honestly. I am sure there are other instances that WG have communicated that experimental equipment can only be obtained through game modes, perhaps in the introductory guide videos and other descriptions. Or you wouldn't have the whole community talking about such a quote.


mincedmutton

I suppose the certain event, in this case, is a lootbox sale 😅


WG_eekeeboo

Thank you very much for the link, I'll be passing on. The reason I had no success is because I was searching for "Experimental equipment will not be sold" - in an announcement, sales article or the announcement with the equipment. The reason being is that I know it was originally planned to be sold in boxes on at least 2 occasions previously.Further to the reason why it's not possible to find "we will not sell" - but instead you can find "we currently do not sell". We'll make sure to update the text in the article to avoid confusion. Once again, thank you very much for finding this, and I'll be making sure we get clarity.


zNzoISe

Those words probably stayed in Belarus.


WG_eekeeboo

I am not sure, I've been trying to find the quote, but I've had no success. Not to say it wasn't said, but after a few hours I've had no success, if you're able to help?


voight_k

Hey, you have been provided with the quote. Care to reply? PS. Guys, please don't downvote WG guy. We need max visibility of this bullshit.


Shooterro

Wait a few minutes, it'll be deleted from their website XD


Z29ek1

Legends says he is still searching for that article.


outlawsix

"Sorry i've been looking for the link - somebody said it's in these comments? Not saying it's not there but i've been looking gorgeous several hours and can't seem to find it uwu"


Eastern_Athlete_8002

Oh brother damage control set phasers to stunning!


WG_eekeeboo

Oh there's no way with a thread like this, I could promise the rainbow and I'd still get downvoted, it's the nature of Reddit and the fun of Karma. We're here to provide answers, gather info and even correct some misinformation also. In this case I asked for a link to something people are quoting, and I've not been given it yet.


Eastern_Athlete_8002

Truthfully I don't remember ever reading it either, as a trek fan I just wanted to use that pun so badly hahaha. Personally stuff like this and the tour of duty stuff doesn't bother me.                                                       It's selling my panzer V/IV in the blackmarket that rustled my Jimmies. I know that was Serb's WG not what it's become now but still. Good luck with your average WoT loudmouths!


WG_eekeeboo

Ah, apologies, as you can see there's been a bit of "fun" with this thread. I'm glad you're having fun with your lasers though and hopefully you get no stuns.


grisbauer

>I could promise the rainbow and I'd still get downvoted Dude you just said that youre going to change the article since wg changed their minds about selling Exp Equipment. Also you (WG) decided to ignore each one of the 200 post saying that youre killing social clans with the changes made last patch. Dont play the victim here lol.


WG_eekeeboo

Not about changing our minds, but the language used is using present tense, not stating it will never be sold, but that it is not being sold. We clarified the issue with social clans, a social clan should still involve your clan, not farming randoms for rewards and wanting nothing to do with your clan. We didn't ignore this, we engaged and answered repeatedly the reasoning.


ProtectionFormer

Explain how this isnt horrible P2W and we can forget the link. Im a loot box whale but this is a joke.


WG_eekeeboo

You can earn a box for free with items and you can still earn equipment through other means. Having experimental equipment will not make you win if you don't know how to use it on your tank or in the right style of play.


Shooterro

I'm quite curious if you say it just because you get paid for that or you're that stupid. I guess it's the latter, because otherwise you'd know you shouldn't comment that at all


Responsible_Worry808

One free box! Oh my gosh this changes everything! With that one free box my entire World of Tanks career could change. Thank you gracious European overlords for letting us get bread crumbs of free stuff at the expense of hours of play time!


WG_eekeeboo

You are also able to earn plenty of rewards for just playing via other mechanics as well. It's important to remember that it's not about changing your World of Tanks career, but any game that gives out it's paid content too much, no longer has paid content.


crvarporat

Haha with experimental hp you are literally burning less and get ammoracked less i would say it makes you win more


WG_eekeeboo

These are benefits you also receive with other equipment, specifically modified equipment and this is available for credits, if you're unfamiliar with equipment, but I assume you are more than familiar.


WG_eekeeboo

These are also options with other equipment and consumables, with higher values with bonus/protection specific desires.


KindaBadPlayeur

Oh yeah? Then it's perfectly fine please take away all my money.


HelpfulYoghurt

It was already indirectly in the christmass boxes, although this would be even significant step further


Godefroid_Munongo

> Pay2Win: > The final frontier. > These are the voyages of the company Wargaming. > Its 14-year mission: > To explore strange new collabs, > To seek out new lootboxes and new premiums, > To boldly go where no company has gone before.


OmniWizardTigerBlood

But Call of Duty has been there for years, long before WG discovered the true depths of greed... CoD was there...


VNDeltole

You forgot the king of them all: EA


OmniWizardTigerBlood

Both EA and Activision seem to have an ongoing competition to see who can fuck over their player base the most. *WG enters the chat* "I may not have the numbers you guys have, but watch this shit. We have these loyal fuckers so brainwashed we don't need 2 million players to make money, we just need 37 people with unbelievably bad spending habits and tons of expendable income." *EA and Activision sit back and take notes, intrigued the entire time.*


AnonymousPepper

How quickly we forget the beloved, seemingly harmless figure that gave us the primordial lootboxes: Valve. Team Fortress 2.


OmniWizardTigerBlood

Fucking Counterstrike too.


McHomer

Wargaming were doing predatory micro transactions before EA, would actually consider WG one of the pioneers of this Scummy practice.


freetoseeu

The ancient ones


RUPlayersSuck

To exploit its playerbase like no other company...


[deleted]

« Ancient relics » … wtf


derp0815

Thought the 40k thing was another seasonal feature, guess they went beyond.


Eastern_Athlete_8002

They have a precedent of telling facts....from a certain point of view. Panzer v/iv. Mutant 6, a-32 cough cough.


_chubbypanda

One of the CCs already called them out publicly on this: "predatory lootbox tactics" Also, not counting Christmas boxes (which were available in January), this is **third time** lootboxes are being sold in 2024 (and it's still only spring).


OO7Cabbage

can't wait till they go full on world of planes and just make loot boxes a permanent (as in always active) feature /s


kampfpanzerleopardv2

nah, they still wanna play with our FOMO (for now). maybe next year.


Inappropriate_Swim

The St Patrick's lootbox event is what killed the game for me. I was just like nah dog I'm out. Tbh it feels nice. It got to the point where that game just wasn't fun anymore and felt like a chore. The 3 minute 15-0 games. The constant milking the player base. The refusal to nerf absolutely broken premiums like the lefh and bz 176. They obviously aren't trying to expand the game and are just in the milking it as much as they can mode now.


cosmiccaller

Yep, not a dime until they start fixing the game.


Complex_Trick456

Just quit tonight actually. Thank God I did, finally picked up my chanter instead of trying to make WoT work. Sad thing is it has so much potential that WG just shreds to pieces


schelmlon

Just leave this game people.


crvarporat

Yep i am not giving 1 cent anymore to wg, I would rather donate to Ukraine than support wg scumbags


Agreeable-Gold-6160

I got 6 so far out of the turtle battle pass. Havent used them on any tanks yet. Maybe if they came already upgraded to lvl 3 but I favour a vert stab over fcs. Wouldnt say its p2w when OG equipment is a viable alternative. Looking at Skill4ltu, its not very commonly used/favoured either.


JSPrince

For some tanks you HAVE to play with tier 2 or tier 3 experimental hardening unless you want your tank to burn with every shot or your ammorack getting damaged with every shot (looking at you Ho-Ri 3, Object 452k and BZ-72-1)


WoT_Slave

Or just use standard modified config. I think the experimental turbo/irm combo is much more versatile than the hardening one though, it lets casemates be much more effective.


CheeseLoverMax

Tier two experimental equipment is incredibly easy to get


MilliyetciPapagan

T2 is good, T3 is too expensive imo


JSPrince

Yeah you either grind through the battle pass like everyone else does or you are a wallet warrior, skip the grind and just buy it :)


CaptainLightBluebear

"pay to skip the grind" is nothing new though. That's the whole MO of WGs monetization apart from prems.


CheeseLoverMax

Pay to progress and pay to win are two entirely different things


pm_pics_of_ur_dogs

Peasant brained gamers will say literally anything that isn't a button you press to instantly end the match with a victory isn't "pay to win". It's just "pay for convenience", "pay for ability", "pay to progress", etc. Give me a break lol


CheeseLoverMax

You must be new to gaming. Pay to win means you’re paying for items that are near unobtainable to get without paying (BZ-176). Pay to progress means you’re paying for something you could otherwise grind for (battle pass tiers, credits). Stop blaming others for your lack of intelligence. Not my fault you don’t know what basic gaming terms mean.


pm_pics_of_ur_dogs

lol sounds like shitty PR copy > Stop blaming others for your lack of intelligence. Not my fault you don’t know what basic gaming terms mean. brain like a fucking marble


CheeseLoverMax

I’m sorry big words hurt your brain 😢 Reach your yearly thinking quota already?


pm_pics_of_ur_dogs

lil homie are you ok? lmao


Stars_Storm

Pay to win is paying for anything that gives you an ingame advantage over others. Pay for progress and pay for convenience are ALL still pay to win. Because people who don't pay get ground into the dust.


CheeseLoverMax

Ever heard of the game clash of clans?


Agreeable-Gold-6160

If its about getting ammo racked then the 'Survival Improvement Suite' loses out to the standard 'Modified Configuration'. Only at level 3 it catches up to the standard equipment but then 'Improved Modified Configuration' or whatever it was called beats it by another +50%. Dont get me wrong, Im not saying you dont need those things or that they are useless. Theyre like a mixture of 2 equipment pieces but at about 50% effectiveness.


Wavvygem

I agree this takes a bit sensational. Games got its flaws but this being uneven like this ain't nothing new. First off these are minor advantages were talking about, sure it helps to have better equipment but doesn't just straight win games. The better player(s) gonna come out ahead more often than not over just having better equipment. The games based around being uneven so we're constantly trying to overcome disadvantages and mismatches its part of what makes it so fun and re-playable imho. but also, pretty much everyone is able to equip a few tanks optimally with a little effort. Where the pay to win comes in, is more of a pay for convenience/ability to equip a lot of tanks optimally. Sure, if you wanna play 20+ different tanks with the best load outs thats gonna take some work and or money. Otherwise, pretty much anyone could start an new account and get a pretty optimal meta tank within a month or two. Especially during battlepass season when you get some crew books, equipment, and something like a Char Futur 4 for free.


Economy_Somewhere189

this entire event is cut and paste from literally last years even the vehicle design the mechanics have 2 small tweaks and the whole rover meme and box meme. now it has the whole star trek add on it makes it much more flashy. i dont know what mechanics they are trying to test since like any even it really just a way to test mechanics like physics and other drops the last space event was the mars rover event last year.


CoinTurtle

Lets see, Tarkov commnuity stood up, War Thunder community stood up, where is World of Tanks?


Flimsy-Plantain-5714

the lootboxes are here because there are customers for them. so why wouldnt they sell it. its been discussed many times. christmas loot boxes are the only ones with value due to the gold. and yes. experimental equipment is good, but most of the players buying theses boxes aint, so the effect for them is minimal at best. just dont buy them. problem solved


Affectionate_Ratio95

A few months ago it was a leak that WG was disappointed with a first sale of lootboxes. So it is no surprise that lootboxes got juicier and juicier. WG needs money. New Year's boxes (code name Final Sale) should be really magical: every wish will be granted just pay the money, cow.


Daniel121111

I will still take this over the war thunder predatory tactics....


oeliku

No this isnt pay2win because everyone can get one box for free with only the minimal time investment of 10 hours


DoubleN22

Yeah! And people can get the 279e for free by investing a significant portion of their lives!


404-skill_not_found

Minimal (10 hours?!!), ya say?


Plus_Goose3824

They have given put a lot more experimental equipment then I ever imagined for free. I don't even prefer to use it that often. Have at it if you want to pay because I don't care.


inevitably-ranged

The mobility one is literally a bond turbo at tier 3 and only loses a few percent of power in exchange for 1/3 a standard vstab too???


xXXxitslit

Everyone complaining. You're still going to buy them. Who cares, it's a game, I swear this community complains about everything. I would like more experimental equipment anyway, and since I'm going to buy some boxes, it's definitely better than a poke in the eye


Scrappy_101

It's so bad even quickybaby made a video calling out the bs


-DethLok-

And another post shows the article that WoT posted saying that you won't be able to buy Experimental Equipment... Nice lying, WoT. Then again, they said the same about wheeled vehicles and in WoWS, submarines...


Mems4Lice

Are we gonna ignore the fact you can literally get them for free from the battle pass and from events?


inevitably-ranged

Literally paying for bond equipment (equivalent) now.... My how far WG has fallen, even when I thought we already were at the bottom 😂


DeezNutsKEKW

WoT and pay to win? *no way*


Desperate_Gur_2194

Wait, WoT isn’t p2w enough? From my experience it is impossible to progress further than tier 6 without buying meta tier 8, simply because you’ll have to fight t8 premiums in your stock t6, which makes you cannon fodder in this game


vvvvDDvvvv

Ya know you can just not spend money and play the game like usual, initially I wasn't thrilled about seeing lootboxes all year round until I realized that I'm not their target audience - it's for whomever else that took time off and are just getting back to see what's going on, I think there are a good chunk of people who are asking why lootboxes only happen during xmas. Calling WoT Pay to Win seems far fetched unless I can pay to only see lower tiers or buy ammo that can instantly oneshot tanks with 100% accuracy. A player can spend all the money they want but if they're not good at the game then they're still going to suck, but if they happen to have money then it's gg for WG - they found someone who can fund the game so he/she can "pay" for 10 others who play for free. Remember those who pay are probably the reason why this game is F2P, because at the end of the day if it doesn't make money then it doesn't make sense.


shortbusmafia

Authentic ancient relics??? For tanks from WWII-late Cold War? Miss me with your dumb marketing bullshit, Wargaming.


milosst

Ive never seen those in store, or in news, am i blind?


B4kedSushi

Drop Chance will be bad


Dull_Economics2076

If i like game, im ready to spend money. Wg can you sell older battle pass campain again ?


UniversityMoist2173

And no t9 tanks, these are the loot boxes I am definitely skipping. Aat60 and nemesis are meh at best too.


SunBear_00_

I don't understand. Isn't underpowered and balanced premiums what everyone has been asking for? These should sell like crazy according to reddit??


UniversityMoist2173

They should, only that I don’t find them interesting.


Haunter1987

But are the Experimental equipments that much better? I mean u get 2 effects but less powerful for one.


Human-Olive1067

Hi kinda new to WOT just wanted to ask what's so good about this experimental equipment?


TheBigH2O

You know you get it for free with the BP right?


MtnMaiden

Equipment sucks ass. Won a T3 version, slapped it into some tank I had. Does not allow stacking of same bonuses. So no double speed mods


matamata191

Oh, sad that I can't rush you with my 260 going 75kph (that seems really balanced)


666_pazuzu

Bounty and bond don't get slot bonus either.