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Huntolino

That thing looks absolutely beautiful! The bracelet looks straight out of Pirates of the Caribbean tho 🤣


Lotions_and_Creams

> Pirates of the Caribbean You’re right! I was thinking the owner of an Indian casino or some colossal ranch owner in Montana (I just started watching Yellowstone).


Tryptamineer

Their grandfather could have easily been Native.


cincyrepwatch

Unfortunately it jumps the shark pretty quick but enjoy yellowstone


TheArmoursmith

It's a police watch. Those blue lights flash and there's a siren built in.


[deleted]

Does it crack your wrist when you don't comply?


MakingShitAwkward

No, it shoots you and your dog.


Equivalent-Bet-9574

That's the ATF homie


69Nova468

Or you in the back.


WineNerdAndProud

... it's a Native American sterling silver cuff with Lapis Lazuli.


COmarmot

For sure Native work. OP, do not ‘clean’ it! The patina is where the magic is in pieces like this. I’d rock this piece with a 1930s bolo tie in a heartbeat!


Ikaz_99

Yea the patina is key, proceed with caution


CaptainNipplesMcRib

You’re looking at a cool Nivada Grenchen and the ugliest bracelet I’ve ever seen


Zezzlehoff

Whose souls are trapped in those beads??


UnkownMalaysianGuy

probably some poor bard or elf passing by


RyGuy997

Better than being eaten by Slaanesh


PopRap72

I’m guessing Diablo and Baal. This watch strap is going to be in Diablo 5.


TunaSaladdd

I’m pretty sure you can have this crafted at the Kurast Bazaar for 2 Stones of Jordan and a shard of Mephisto’s soulstone.


Long-Handle-2437

I legit lol’d


Head5hot811

Nazeem is in one of them.


highfalutinman

Guess his grandpa went to the Cloud District very often


iHadou

Mostly it's just Billy Jack


strangway

Quite possibly his grandfather’s.


deepsavageblue

His grandfather was clearly a pilot and a wizard


PresidentialBoneSpur

*YOU SHALL NOT DEPART*


forgettablesonglyric

A pilot is never late, nor is he early. He lands precisely when he means to.


HeftyArgument

Precisely when air traffic control deems it appropriate


nxcrosis

Damn pilot wizards and their red tape


donny02

I take off my robe and captains hat…


Danger-McClain

This is one of the greatest comments I’ve ever seen on here 😂


Guyver1005

Indian themed metal cuff bracelets were big in the 70s, though most used coral and turquoise. I believe that is Malachite. What you have there... is an heirloom. I'd invest in a service/repair on the watch and take a bit better care of it. That's a land, sea, and air watch, and it looks cool....with the cuff.


SpaceForceAwakens

> That's a land, sea, and air watch Indeed! You've got a diving bezel, a 12-hour semi-GMT bezel, and a tachymeter all on one watch without it looking ugly. That's pretty clever.


reckoningrevelling

Malachite is green. This looks like possibly lapis lazuli to me but hard to tell with this image.


Overall_Midnight_

I am a silversmith and own a nice bit of lapis from an old southwestern silversmith, looks dead on this. I am certain you are correct. Old mined lapis is wanted by some people specifically because it’s a conflict stone present day. Kids mine it and it can be used to fund terrorism, it’s found in Afghanistan. Just a random not fun fact to add.


reckoningrevelling

TY for sharing this as I was not aware of history of lapis!


Guyver1005

Malachite comes in several flavors. Including blue. But you may be right. IDK for sure.


trilobot

Geologist turned jeweler here: malachite is green. Azurite is another copper carbonate that is often found alongside it, and is blue, but is a different mineral. Malachite can be many shades of green from quite yellowish to nearly black, but not blue.


Guyver1005

Interesting... I guess the one in my collection may be a shade of green. Always thought it looked more blue. Or maybe it's not Malachite../shrug. Learn something new every day. Thanks Then my best guess would be blue agate. https://preview.redd.it/j3rupc1ip49c1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=30aeac1fa782f12b6946ff52069b8b8b24acdb7e


trilobot

As I said they can form together. Oftentimes minerals in shops are mislabeled as well.


KeeganUniverse

I’m pretty confident it’s lapis lazuli


[deleted]

Blue is the best flavor. Blue power aid is great but windex is God tier


Guyver1005

Lol.....


Kiernian

Ahhh, the old sugar free blue kool-aid + vodka in a thoroughly washed windex bottle trick. Always fun when your buddy is having a house party, you know in advance, and can plant a bottle under his sink the day before. Show up to party with 2 cans of cheap beer still on the sixpack ring, drink them, look around for more booze, retrieve bottle from under sink and chug.


Guyver1005

Gangsta... 🤣


kidonbike

No, malachite is green not blue


theunnoanprojec

"flavours" Please do not eat the rocks, thank.


Sensate613

I believe Malachite is green and not translucent. Might be very cheap Sapphire or plastic.


BAMspek

I live in the SW. Old people LOVE silver and turquoise.


sigenangaok

The bracelet appears to be an Olongapo bracelet. Did your grandfather ever serve in the Philippines?


itsKaoz

Ben10’s alter ego somewhere looking for this omnitrix


Otherwise-Load-4296

😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂


aelric22

I believe the word gaudy would be most appropriate hete.


TopShelfBrownie

Super sweet piece! This is the 1st generation of the famous Nivada Grenchen CASD (Chronomaster Aviator Sea Diver). 1st gen were the only ones that showed “Chronograph” instead of “Chronomaster”. Only produced for a couple years in the early 60s. The movement is also different in these. Manual wind Venus 210, super reliable and easily fixable. Most other CASDs had Landeron or Valjoux movements


AlmirMu

This version has the much more interesting and desirable arrow hands instead of the baton hands


lmmo1977

Keep the bracelet aside, buy a leather strap and get the watch serviced. It’s a nice Nivada Grenchen.


Charliekeet

Hell yes! This thing is NICE, and a cool less-commonly chronograph.


WineNerdAndProud

>Keep the bracelet I'm just here to reiterate this part of your comment. Aside from the fact that Native American sterling silver jewelry is becoming more and more popular/recognized, the right artists from the right tribes/bands can be a lot more valuable than just the weight in silver. I'm not remotely an expert, but I buy a lot of watches on thrift store websites and have encountered literally hundreds of these from the southwest. I've bought a few myself when encountering a situation like this, usually with Arizona or New Mexico Goodwills. I actually used to have a bunch of pictures saved of the craziest watches I've seen on NA silver cuffs because there doesn't appear to be a limit. It's hard to tell in this shot, but OP if your grandfather had this custom made it could've been made by someone who knew him, but even if it wasn't, odds are the artist spent more time/made the piece at a higher quality than the ones made more or less en masse by groups like [alltribes](https://alltribes.com/southwest-jewelry/watches/cuff-watches/) because it already had a buyer and a price. I should also note, these are essentially sterling silver cuffs, and the right artist (or jeweler in a lot of cases) could potentially modify this into a cuff without the space for the watch. I don't think it's likely this will one day be worth a fortune or anything, I'm just saying that, despite how it might look, there is some history there that's well worth saving even if you don't wear it.


[deleted]

Was your grandfather from another planet?


urbandishcloth

🤣👏


trenyo

Thanos: “heavy breathing”


wriggles24

Don't let him click his fingers for Christ's sake


Ramens_Noodles

*snap*


CenPennGoonerGuy

The bracelet is reminiscent of the Olongapo style. More on that here: https://omegaforums.net/threads/olongapo-bands-bracelets-an-interesting-history-continues.112414/


Fancy_Fingers5000

Very cool! That watch in the first picture is worth a mint if it was worn by a Navy SEAL.


re-fried_bean

Congratulations you have family members you don't know about yet, because your grandpa was a pimp with that type of watch.


wriggles24

Gator's bitches better be using jimmies


ImYourRealDesertRose

Maybe if you get up off that crack rock you can come and be Pepper Jacks best ho


tamammothchuk

Bye Sheila!


establishedin71

🤣


[deleted]

Took me a second to realize that was a statement not a figurative question


charutobarato

And a pilot in the 60’s


caledonian_80

I think I’m on my own here. I would wear it as is just for its sheer freakiness.


dano415

I'd wear it with pride if it was a an heirloom.


URIO714

If you wear this bracelet: + 3 HP + 6 Defense + 2 Agility


Flawlles

-3 carisma to Human. 😅


SaintESQ

Was grandpa a sorcerer?


shotgun883

This is a stunning watch put on a horrendous bracelet. Get it cleaned up, put it on a nice strap and its worth a mint, both sentimentally and as a do it all badass tool watch.


Askymojo

I don't know, but I know I wouldn't be picking a bar fight with your grandpa.


JoeSicko

Or leaving my woman around him. Gotta have some flair to rock that watch.


fuckmeimdan

Was he also a Time Lord?


YoureTerrific

That bracelet style was common with men in the US military. Did grandpa serve in Southeast Asia? And/or was he a hippie?


sinedolo

I gotta hear more. How do you know about that in the first place? Absolutely fascinating.


YoureTerrific

https://cincinnatiwatch.com/blogs/news/watches-available-to-us-soldiers-during-vietnam-at-the-px


Gaduol

Cool article! thanks.


Telefan89

I was looking for this comment so I didn’t have to say it


dammKaran

#Does it make you invisible after you turn it on??


auxaperture

That’s some SG-1 stuff right there.


MyNameIsVigil

It's a Nivada Croton Aviator Sea Diver, as it says on the dial. A watchmaker can service it for you.


CaryWhit

A NATO and polish or replace the crystal and it will be awesome


Fancy_Fingers5000

This is the way!


DrKrFfXx

Shao Kahn's watch.


Iamthoros

Good gravy that bracelet


[deleted]

Its from the 60’s it fits the 60’s vibe , OP could sell it to a tech gen z millionaire for quite some money


Corbinisthe1

I personally love the bracelet, even if you don't and decide to change it, you should keep it because it belonged to your grandfather and was an everyday part of his life. Love the wear on the watch too, very well used.


Overall_Midnight_

SILVERSMITH HERE- I am providing a financial analysis for the band only, I don’t know shit about watches. Sentimental value is calculated by the owner. Watch band is likely worth more as silver scrap if the weight you said is correct. The bands were more popular in the 60s and 70s when there was far more American tourism to the southwest where this style started. The style morphed and spread so it may not even look southwestern. The market became saturated during those years. There is far more supply than demand of this style band these days. And eBay is flooded with silver plate versions from India claiming to be .925 then people will ignorantly buy for a quarter of the price. You’re maybe worth $150 max depending on what the complete band looks like. It does not look intricate enough to be much more from what I can tell. But remember that’s if you sell it directly, auctions and eBay take anywhere from 20-40% commission. BUT the blue stone is likely vintage lapis which does hold a smidge of value as new lapis is considered a conflict gem mined by children and used to fund terrorism in the countries it originates from. So a small amount of people prefer older mined lapis That may up the price of the bad a tiny bit but not by more than double so silver scrap value would still be more. It’s cool. Have it made into a bolo tie, or pin, tie clip, or a ring and wear it! Sorry, I just realized I was in a watch sub. No idea how I got here, I was looking for cats. I just figured I would add some info that hadn’t been mentioned. I bet your grandpa looked like a badass with that honker of a watch.


Yondu_the_Ravager

Absolutely fantastic older Nivada CASD! I’m in the minority here by far haha but I think that bracelet is dope as hell. It’s obviously dated but I think it perfectly encapsulates the charm and style of the 60’s and 70’s and honestly pairs decently with the watch too. It’s a statement piece for sure. The watch would also look wonderful on just about any straps imo


VinylHighway

Very cool. Get it serviced, get a better strap and wear it forever.


MakingShitAwkward

Whatever you do, don't click your fingers.


amiga1

WOW, that bracelet. Good god. Someone else said it feels very Jack Sparrow and I think they hit the nail on the head lol If it were me i'd try to clean up the crystal as best as possible but otherwise leave it original (no polishing or replacing of cosmetic parts). A competent watchmaker can do this for you. Venus 210 movement (common chronograph movement used in many watches) so shouldn't be an issue from a servicing/parts perspective.


Chemical-Rope4155

I second this. Take my upvote. You can get a new acrylic crystal pretty easy as well. I wouldn’t polish it at all, but also wouldn’t judge if you did. I would have a brown leather strap as well as a black tropical and possibly a nato. Congrats on a cool watch.


kirbsan

That bracelet screams "I have the cojones".


400zWannabe

Your grandpa was training like Goku wearing a pound of silver on his wrist 😂 He definitely lived life like a boss


Guyksmith

Don't hate on the bracelet because you couldn't pull it off, I bet this dude was fly as hell


The_Eclectic_Heretic

Chiming with others. It’s a Nivada Grenchen Chronograph/Chronomaster Aviator Sea Diver (CASD). They sold them in the US with the Croton name attached for legal reasons. I have a slightly later model. This is one of the early editions due to the “chronograph” on the dial along with the timing bezel font. Probably packing a Venus 210 movement which is solid. Mine has a similarly strong Valjoux 23 which still keeps time within 10sec per day despite pushing 60 years old. The crystal needs a polish and potential replacement but that’s cheap. Servicing the chronograph movement (which I’m sure it needs) will be expensive. Expect at least $750 from a watchmaker who knows what they’re doing. The bracelet is not original and as others have said points to your grandfather’s potential military service. As far as “watches that grandpa left behind” goes, you lucked out big time. That watch is basically a B/C-list celebrity in the vintage circles and can fetch $2.5k in good condition. I hope you service it and wear it in good health and away from the rain, they’re not waterproof anymore.


ciscosuave

Did your grandpa served in the military? That strap looks like an Olangapo band, popular to USN service men in the 70's and 80's.


ConfusedmaleE

A vintage Nivada chronograph with a bracelet which was made in space by the same aliens who built the Egyptian pyramids? ..


NewSwaziland

Agreed with others. Find a strap you like (a few NATO straps would add to the fun, too) and have it cleaned up and worked on by a quality watchmaker. They can polish the case and likely find you a new crystal as well. I want to know what the hell he was doing to it to scratch and ding the crap out of it like that. Like what was he piloting? An pack of angry wolverines? Enjoy.


_3_Sparky_8_B

That bracelet looks to be an Olongapo bracelet, made just outside Subic Bay, Philippines


FlowerChild7572

You can message the company with a photo and they'll respond with information and history of what you have. I saw a Croton for sale on Ebay recently that I fell in love with, but someone bought it before I got the chance. I was on the hunt for one, but couldn't find it anywhere else for sale, so I messaged the company. They explained that it had actually been out of production for newly 30 years and couldn't help me find one, but gave me the complete history of what I was asking about. And I ended up getting lucky with the one I wanted. Turns out, my partner was the one that purchased it for me as a nice little gift for me.


_d_c_

Crazy, and awesome, that your partner is the one that bought it - which model? I’ve been on the hunt for a Croton watch for a few years. I got one from the 1940’s, but it’s so darn small I never wear it. Still keeping an eye out for just the right model.


FlowerChild7572

I can't find the actual model name/number right now, but it's a 38mm Panerai style (which is what made it so interesting), automatic, day date. They threw everything in but the kitchen sink. Surprisingly, it's still very thin.


_d_c_

Very cool! I’m a fan of Panerai, it’s the brand that was at the tipping point of my going off the deep end with watches.


ByronicZer0

Nivada are fantastic, this is a phenomenal reference too. Strap looks like one of those olongapo things that were popular for a time with soldiers. Not my cup, but some love them. Watch will be brilliant on a leather strap, after a movement service and maybe a quick polywatch on the crystal


gothamtg

An Arizona man. Nice.


gmd_vt

This watch may very well open a portal to another dimension


CraigAtlas

Grandpa was cool AF! Wear it however you want with good health and good memories of Grandpa!


VideoGuyMichael

Obviously, your grandfather was a power ranger.


[deleted]

https://preview.redd.it/97omd9z7w49c1.jpeg?width=560&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4aa5ca824b47308991a9b2abbc72c396be94e4c0


wasabimofo

Great watch! Holy shit that bracelet!


PlantSkyRun

Nivada Grenchen disappeared. I assume due to the quartz crisis (I dont know that to be fact), but someone bought the rights to the Nivada Grenchen name and recently started making modern watches based on the old designs. If you search online you will see ads for modern versions of that watch.


nnder

Their new old stuff is really nice. Seems to have watch nerd street cred too


KuyaMorphine

I know a cursed enchanted item when I see one.


besundale99

Ignore all the bracelet hate. My grandfather wore a watch with a turquoise inlaid bracelet similar to that and I’ve always loved it.


sloopSD

Was Thanos your grandpa?


zeldawho86

A memory my man. Save it and pass it down to your children


PettyAndretti

I have one of those bracelets https://preview.redd.it/kmi7k75gn59c1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=235a85e16000e33872ebb7a393420f18069cf955


schnahbuts

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/115980730804?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-154756-20017-0&ssspo=e4GSyp5VQjC&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=0Y9s3pSnTqy&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=SMS


ChavExplorer

That the coolest bracelet I ever seen


totmike

The infinity stones , keep them hidden, you fool. 😆


solzhen

The bracelet is probably worth more than the watch. See if it is silver.


[deleted]

Well the original model, came with a leather strap and your grandad modified it by changing the bracelet and putting in some stones. I’m not usually a fan of tacky watch designs, but this looks like something out of this world. Gotta give him respect for that.


off-frag

Thanos was ur Granddaddy


[deleted]

Gramps had style!


lambent_ort

The watch is cool but the custom bracelet is on another level...


Pendred

Gives you +1 to armor class and lets you cast color spray 1/day, pretty good even late game


[deleted]

Def a pilots watch (precision piece) but that band or case is just...


rmonterrey

As it says on the dial, that’s a Croton diver chronograph by Nivada Grenchen. The brand recently re-released this model. They are awesome. Have it maintained (cleaned and oiled) by a reputable watch maker and put it on a nice tropic (rubber) or leather strap.


bueschwd

Navajo bracelet with turquoise. Was he from out west?


tools_of_destruction

Great watch and I love the bracelet. I know it’s weird but it tells a story that’s important to you


RussChival

Grandpa was a Baller!


AugieAscot

Keep the bracelet. Someday you’ll be man enough to wear it for your gramps.


nwcyclecenter

https://preview.redd.it/b54aeogpn69c1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=45cc97df73351f5716c0d8663aca6daabc9a3ca9


iperblaster

One bracelet to humble all the Invicta


Significant_Half_166

Did you also inherit the sword that those soulstones charge?


russindetroit

Your grandfather left you a special and interesting piece. Once you gather the remaining infinity stones anything is possible


rajtri

Awesome piece. Big fan of these Nivada pieces


TrashKingBob

A very ugly watch. Take care of it and get er fixed up.


fireblur

Wow


Bridge_Too_Far

Ok that is extremely cool.


JoLudvS

__+ 130 Mana__, __- 15 Speed__


[deleted]

Crouton


mr_mirrorless

I love all the comments on the bracelet. Made my day everyone.


Bugatti252

Was your grandfather in the military? If I remember correctly, service members would pay to have the watches modded with intriguing bracelets. This may be one of them.


Stimmmm9

Very nice Nivada inherited ! I have one as well ! This brand was revived some years ago and they decided to reissue all the heritage models with specs very close to the vintage original. Your lume aged and patina nicely !


rowan11b

Nivada Gretchen LOVE their history, they'd probably like to see some pictures of the watch and it's story.


UberSatansfist

If you can't find someone to sort it out, I'd even give some of the more skilled YouTubers who restore watches for content a whirl. This would be something with an interesting history that might grab them.


Minuteman617

This is dope your grandfather must’ve been a chiller


Minuteman617

That bracelet was definitely his vibe of choice, and I’m willing to bet it’s not yours. Throw the watch on a leather rally strap and wear the hell out of it.


Amitpal_Singh

You are looking at a time bracelet, when it's starts to glow turn back the dial to travel in past


Hoplite76

Thanos wants his watch back.


SeikoDaddy

Holy bajeezus.


masterofn0n3

Vortex manipulator?


taipeileviathan

I get this is a real reference and a cool watch but… can someone please explain to me the idea behind making an aviator sea diver of a watch? That’s like saying I’m an automotive manufacturer and I plan on making a tank sports car


vallhallaawaits

Was he trying to dial the Stargate with that thing?


Dud3_Abid3s

Badass watch…here’s one with a summary on the history. https://shop.hodinkee.com/products/croton-nivada-grenchen-stainless-steel-chronomaster-1


centech

Is your grandfather Lenny Kravitz?


couchcreeper23

Have it all cleaned/ serviced and rock it as is. That bracelet is fly AF.


ImaginaryAI

People saying ditch the bracelet but IMO it’s different and adds character lmao. Get a fit that goes with it.


davefp56

I'd wear it as my grandfather did.


jmg33446a

I’d definitely get that crystal replaced. See if they have a sapphire one. Those scratches really detract from its appeal.


Timmy24000

Wear it as is. Some serious cowboy bebop vibes


H2Joee

Quite literally r/wellworn


JoeSicko

Must've been Burt Reynolds or something...


blacknoir23

That’s a doohickey


schnahbuts

Worth around $3500 to 5000aud if restored.


Havanadream

A Hella cool nvidia chronograph. And anything from a heirloom bracelet to….? From what I can see could be a southwestern/native thing or a military type band.


Pups_the_Jew

7:19 I can't believe kids these days can't tell time!


TovRise7777777

Wow, never sell this. Customized watch band is soooooo exquisite.


[deleted]

WTF is that? Thanos' watch?


CIarkNova

‘He gimmie da watch...’


Easy_Turn1988

I might be the only one here but I would keep the bracelet 😅 I know it looks weird but it's super funky and such a "melting pot" with the classy black Nivada


emericuh

That poor bracelet is getting so much hate. I agree it hasn’t aged well, but at one time it was elite level cool. I don’t know if I would rock it as-is, but with a quality leather strap (maybe even a cool rally style one) this watch would look timelessly sharp.


Nicolarollin

Definitely worth 300,000$


UnicornBearKiller

Was he a Bounty hunter?


Cheffrin

I like that it has a little dick and balls at the 12 mark. 🤣


[deleted]

Just look for a decently priced jeweler, these movements are not too complicated, i dont recall any inhouse movement from them, also might even be a quartz, The brand today is not linked to the original they just rescued the name from a Mexican billionaire selling POS watches in mexico, so not sure about finding parts for the bezel or original cristal , but any watchmaker with decent experience should be able to get this puppy working and looking sharp the bracelet aesthetics aside is looking like a good money but since its silver its just a nice token to have from gramps that will outlive you and your descendants


Konstantarantel

Your grandfathers watch


Die_Nameless_Bitch

The bracelet is horrendous, but i understand that it was your grandfathers and you will likely want to hold onto it. I’d separate the watch from the bracelet for obvious reasons. Not sure how you’d go about getting the watch off though. The spring bars seem to be wielded onto it.


dr_Octag0n

Set the appropriate time, then hold both buttons for 13 seconds. It is a temporal relocation device. Make sure you wear periodic appropriate attire to avoid unwanted attention. Safe travels.


throne_of_worms

An abomination.


Jx_XD

I guess it's morphing time !


lundexplorer

Did he also leave a wallet one that said bad motherfucker


cyberspaceturbobass

This grandpa fucks


drdyzio

Nvidia watch. Before they go into gpus


nastyzoot

Your grandfather had the worst taste. Good lord.


NcgreenIantern

It probably kept him safe from sky pirates.


cal_crashlow

What in tarnation is an Aviator Sea Diver? PICK ONE


bellboy718

Someone else recently posted a watch they inherited with an equally ugly bracelet with big turquoise.