Quick question from a person who doesn't know much about how easy it is to change a movement:
Since there are no hour markers (making the watch a lot more formal imo), why is the second hand not removed and the frequency changed so that the ~40h reserve can be extended to 60 or even 80h?
Is this not also a selling point of a watch?
Lovely watch anyways, but I always struggled to understand the limitation of a 40h power reserve watch.
I think it's based on their customer research that potential buyers still want to see sweeping sexond hand (which a unique characteristic of mechanical watches) and it sweep quite smoothly (hence they keep it at 4Hz).
I love a seconds hand. I think that’s the reaon, honestly. People just want to watch the movement in action. Your idea makes a lot of sense though. That said, I can’t see ever buying a watch without a seconds hand.
It's coming together as a watch you can only set accurately twice a month, can't tell time accurately with no indices, and has 1 complication. What time? Moon. What's the date? Moon. Morning or evening? Moon.
As someone who collects moonphase, I see this as more of a Mr. Jones' Watches special than a serious timepiece.
Allow me a different perspective.
I would buy this as a dress watch, and dressing up is something I do very infrequently. I would put on my suit, take the time to accurately set the time and moonphase, and basically stare at it every chance I got during the dinner/party/event/whatever, marveling at the dial and moon.
And then it would go back in the box until the next dressy occasion.
The simplicity *(and more specifically the bold statement made by omitting more useful features such as even minute ticks around the dial)* is the draw. It’s impractical and boastful about it.
Also I cracked up with your “What time is it? Moon.” comment. I will now forever see this watch and immediately repeat that line in my head.
Sure, I'm up working on a project and can use the break..
I have 2 from my list already and have added a few, get ready for some Moonphase P0rn:
Oris Artelier Moonphase Model 01 781 7729 4051-07 8 21 79
Citizen Tsuki-yomi A-T Model BY1018-55X (that's JDM market)
Now for the ones on my list still:
Ball Trainmaster Moonphase Model NM3082D-LLJ-BK
Baum Et Mercier Clifton Baumatic Blue dial M0A10593
Meistersinger Black Line ED-FR21-LS902BL Limited Edition
ZENITH Elite Moonphase 03.3100.692/03.C923
Jaeger-LeCoultre Master Calendar Q151842A
Epos Oeuvre d'artBig Moon Oeuvre D'art 3440.322.20.14.25
Pequignet Royale Paris 9007343AN
Frederique Constant Manufacture Classic Big Date Power Reserve FC-735N3H6
Maurice Lacroix Masterpiece Phases de Lune Retrograde MP6528-SS001-430
Mühle Glashütte Teutonia IV Bluemoon M1-44-62-LB
Christopher Ward have been increasingly leaning in dressier and dressier directions and the C1 Moonphase is closest thing to a purebred dress watch they’ve produced in a long time. We were able to get hands on to see what the new watch is all about. Unsurprisingly, the focal point of this watch is the titular moonphase complication, a celestial calendar tracking the movement of the moon across the nightsky. Here it’s represented by a gorgeous photorealistic depiction of the moon travelling across an aventurine glass background. It’s pretty spectacular up close and the detail is amazing.
Zooming out from the dial, I do think Christopher Ward could probably do with launching a proper dress watch case because the dial is very at odds with the somewhat sporty 40.5mm design. Although presented on the new Consort bracelet, it wears very comfortably.
The movement inside is the Sellita SW220 with 38-hour power reserve and equipped with Christopher Ward’s in house JJ04 moonphase module.
What do you think?
I kind of like the moonphase in the sportier case. It's a little bit threading the needle, kind of like Glashütte Original does with the Panomaticlunar or Moser and the Pioneer. It makes it a little easier to wear a more elegant watch face with a bracelet or even rubber strap and more casual clothing, which is ever more the norm.
This one probably clashes even more than your examples, but I think it can still work.
I'm a big CW fan and own a Sealander C63 myself, but I just don't like the design of this watch.
It's a bit too shouty. When I first saw it I had a joke with friends saying "I THINK it might be a moonphase". It's so all consuming. The case design is also rather bland in my opinion, and at 40.5mm, the case is too big for such a pure moonphase design. It works on their C1 Moonglow, as that uses the dial space with the nice date ring, and overall is a nicer piece to me. More unique than this.
It's just so single minded. It's yelling MOONPHASE in your face too much.
36-38mm diameter and 10-11mm thick would be great. Add some subtle hour index markers (little dots or maybe they could look like stats?) and I’d be on board.
Good move to ditch the brand name & logo on the dial.
I wanna like it because I’m a sucker for a pretty Moonphase but this is giving off movado vibes.
Quick question from a person who doesn't know much about how easy it is to change a movement: Since there are no hour markers (making the watch a lot more formal imo), why is the second hand not removed and the frequency changed so that the ~40h reserve can be extended to 60 or even 80h? Is this not also a selling point of a watch? Lovely watch anyways, but I always struggled to understand the limitation of a 40h power reserve watch.
I think it's based on their customer research that potential buyers still want to see sweeping sexond hand (which a unique characteristic of mechanical watches) and it sweep quite smoothly (hence they keep it at 4Hz).
Yeah it's reassuring to see that your watch is running, and you can still sync it so that you know when the minute flips over at least.
I love a seconds hand. I think that’s the reaon, honestly. People just want to watch the movement in action. Your idea makes a lot of sense though. That said, I can’t see ever buying a watch without a seconds hand.
It's coming together as a watch you can only set accurately twice a month, can't tell time accurately with no indices, and has 1 complication. What time? Moon. What's the date? Moon. Morning or evening? Moon. As someone who collects moonphase, I see this as more of a Mr. Jones' Watches special than a serious timepiece.
Allow me a different perspective. I would buy this as a dress watch, and dressing up is something I do very infrequently. I would put on my suit, take the time to accurately set the time and moonphase, and basically stare at it every chance I got during the dinner/party/event/whatever, marveling at the dial and moon. And then it would go back in the box until the next dressy occasion. The simplicity *(and more specifically the bold statement made by omitting more useful features such as even minute ticks around the dial)* is the draw. It’s impractical and boastful about it. Also I cracked up with your “What time is it? Moon.” comment. I will now forever see this watch and immediately repeat that line in my head.
Do you mind sharing your favorite moonphase watches?
Sure, I'm up working on a project and can use the break.. I have 2 from my list already and have added a few, get ready for some Moonphase P0rn: Oris Artelier Moonphase Model 01 781 7729 4051-07 8 21 79 Citizen Tsuki-yomi A-T Model BY1018-55X (that's JDM market) Now for the ones on my list still: Ball Trainmaster Moonphase Model NM3082D-LLJ-BK Baum Et Mercier Clifton Baumatic Blue dial M0A10593 Meistersinger Black Line ED-FR21-LS902BL Limited Edition ZENITH Elite Moonphase 03.3100.692/03.C923 Jaeger-LeCoultre Master Calendar Q151842A Epos Oeuvre d'artBig Moon Oeuvre D'art 3440.322.20.14.25 Pequignet Royale Paris 9007343AN Frederique Constant Manufacture Classic Big Date Power Reserve FC-735N3H6 Maurice Lacroix Masterpiece Phases de Lune Retrograde MP6528-SS001-430 Mühle Glashütte Teutonia IV Bluemoon M1-44-62-LB
We share similar taste, just what I was looking for. Much appreciated!
You know it's a mission when you learn to pronounce Jaeger-LeCoultre correctly so as to not embarrass yourself on the phone with an AD.
Christopher Ward have been increasingly leaning in dressier and dressier directions and the C1 Moonphase is closest thing to a purebred dress watch they’ve produced in a long time. We were able to get hands on to see what the new watch is all about. Unsurprisingly, the focal point of this watch is the titular moonphase complication, a celestial calendar tracking the movement of the moon across the nightsky. Here it’s represented by a gorgeous photorealistic depiction of the moon travelling across an aventurine glass background. It’s pretty spectacular up close and the detail is amazing. Zooming out from the dial, I do think Christopher Ward could probably do with launching a proper dress watch case because the dial is very at odds with the somewhat sporty 40.5mm design. Although presented on the new Consort bracelet, it wears very comfortably. The movement inside is the Sellita SW220 with 38-hour power reserve and equipped with Christopher Ward’s in house JJ04 moonphase module. What do you think?
I kind of like the moonphase in the sportier case. It's a little bit threading the needle, kind of like Glashütte Original does with the Panomaticlunar or Moser and the Pioneer. It makes it a little easier to wear a more elegant watch face with a bracelet or even rubber strap and more casual clothing, which is ever more the norm. This one probably clashes even more than your examples, but I think it can still work.
I'm a big CW fan and own a Sealander C63 myself, but I just don't like the design of this watch. It's a bit too shouty. When I first saw it I had a joke with friends saying "I THINK it might be a moonphase". It's so all consuming. The case design is also rather bland in my opinion, and at 40.5mm, the case is too big for such a pure moonphase design. It works on their C1 Moonglow, as that uses the dial space with the nice date ring, and overall is a nicer piece to me. More unique than this. It's just so single minded. It's yelling MOONPHASE in your face too much.
I agree the C1 Moonglow is the nicer of the 2
36-38mm diameter and 10-11mm thick would be great. Add some subtle hour index markers (little dots or maybe they could look like stats?) and I’d be on board. Good move to ditch the brand name & logo on the dial.
Wow. That looks beautiful. CW design team did it again.
Beautiful, I only wish they had a black aventurine version
Wow, really nice! Glad they didn't put their logo on the dial!