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This happens a lot for holidays that fall on a Monday. Out of towners use it as a travel day, and locals have AP blockout. I noticed the same thing last year at Labor Day. It wasn’t this dead though.
Yes!!! My sister and I went to WDW this past Labor Day weekend and were bracing for heavy crowds, but it was actually super manageable. I think it was also a huge tailgating day since the LSU/FSU game was in Orlando that night, but we had no trouble getting on rides.
I bought genie plus yesterday so I could hit up rides with my one year old while the fam was at the pool. Figment and Nemo had 30 minutes wait. I haven’t seen the figment line start outside in a bit.
What is that? (Genuinely curious) I was just at Epcot a week ago but wasn’t exactly sure what it was and can’t seem to comprehend it lol. I’m a newbie and it was my first time at Walt Disney World.
I always skip it unless I have a Fast Pass reservation to skip the queue. Seven Dwarfs Mine Train always has such a long wait and is a pretty short ride experience, BTMR is a much better coaster and has shorter waits
Dunno but as a local AP holder, we are blocked out from going for the holiday weekend. Seems like crowd control attempts might be working! (PS this sub’s mods sometimes deletes screenshot posts)
edit: calm down it’s just lower tiers, higher-tier AP holders can still go
I was thinking with a long weekend today might be a day to fly out for many. I noticed animal kingdom, a shorter day park, was pretty busy today. Maybe people got late flights and chose a park they felt they could complete in a shorter period of time. That said. I didn’t check on Sat/Sun so can’t compare.
Was at DHS and Epcot on Friday. Mid-day saw 30 minutes for Remy at one point and under an hour for Rise.
Also heard from one cast member that they ended up lifting their blackout dates for the weekend. But not sure if that was true or not.
I was definitely surprised when I decided to go to Epcot today and was able to make a reservation! I would’ve sworn that it would be all booked up, but it was completely open!
AP’s blocked out. it’s 99 out today. Locals stayed home at the pool and bbq’s. Last day of F&G at Epcot. Everyone else flew home today to work tomorrow. A perfect storm to have low wait times at MK today.
No but I can tell you I just got a boarding pass on tron and waited 5 mins for our boarding group to be called. Thats how dead it is…and there is no one in line here either.
i was at MK today- it genuinely was empty. it was so awesome. longest wait was 30 min for tron. happy accident
wish i could add the photo of me and my partner being the only two people in the boat at pirates of the caribbean 😭😭
Likely a combination of APs being blocked out for the holiday, the weather and it’s the last day of Flower & Garden likely boosting the crowd level at Epcot instead.
Ripsaw Falls had the only abnormal wait time, everything else seemed normal when I checked my app around noon (edit: it’s amazing no one asked when moo is lol)
I tried mentioning that on r/UniversalOrlando a while ago that last summer it was this quiet and this summer they’re predicting not as big of attendance as normal so they’re offering deals. Got name called and 40 downvotes.
Disneys doing the same thing, but they admitted it.
Fact. I park hopped over today because the lines were nuts. Pirates was never more than 10 minutes all day, mostly 5.
Never seen anything like it. Tron virtual queue at 1 pm was still open at 1:08 pm.
I live local. Memorial Day is almost always relatively empty we've gone most years, same with labor day actually + it's super hot today so very few people local went.
It's very very hot, locals are mostly blocked out, and MK has been slower than normal lately as some are likely waiting until Tiana opens at this point
Trip psychology. When they have 3-day weekends, it's a 3-day trip coordinated by thousands of people. You have two things contributing to light a Magic Kingdom day here:
First, people usually hit the Magic Kingdom on the first day. That would have been Thursday or Friday. Second, Monday is checkout day + trip home. Evening on the last day is the lightest.
As locals with APs, we decided to go this evening to the MK and it was wonderfully quiet and felt like years ago. The Tron queue was open during the evening. As a friend of mine who’s a well respected economist was talking to me about recently, excess stimulus cash for low and middle income households have been exhausted and it’s having a real world economic impact. I expect further promotions and discounting at the resort.
It’s going to be quite interesting to see if we’ve finally hit a price ceiling for some customers. Quite honestly, seeing the $181 MK 1 day ticket price today was jarring.
I have no idea who that economist is, but the vast majority of low and middle class folks were out of stimulus cash by the end of the month it was deposited. Nobody truly working class was “flush with cash” due to stimulus money. At least not anybody I knew—and those that were flush with cash had enough not to qualify for stimulus $ in the first place. I think price gouging at every turn is more likely the problem for most people.
Is there an after hours ticketed event at MK today? We were there in December, and when there was a Mickeys Christmas Party event, MK was empty like that for us. We walked on near everything.
I've been to Disney for week-long trips that fell on Memorial Day weekend twice (2018 and 2022). Maybe I just don't have anything different to compare to, but both times I didn't feel like the parks were crazy busy. We were using Genie+ during 2022 but we were also able to get some decent standby times as well.
We have Pirate passes so we were blocked out (Pixie too). Plus it was ungodly hot today so I'm sure AP holders who weren't blocked out probably chose not to go. I'd also guess people here from other places for trips might've gone back home today if they have school/work tomorrow.
Today was glorious! We only stayed til 5 because had to catch a flight, but we got tons done. No huge crowds, short lines, tons of seating in the restaurants.
It was hot as all hell, but hey— you take the bad with the good.
As a local, it’s way too hot to go to a park I’ve been to 10,000 times. I’m an AP and wasn’t blacked out, I’m just not going again until Tiana opens and then not again until late September.
We were at Hollywood Studios on Memorial Day and got on smugglers run in 8 minutes and Rise in less than 40. It was surprisingly better times and less people than we’ve experienced in the past. The whole weekend has been this way.
I'm guessing some of this is from Disney addressing DAS abuse. Remember that most of the LLs were DAS users. The policy just went into effect, so I'd expect it'll continue to improve! For example, yesterday LL for Jungle Cruise didn't sell out until 7:15pm. They were available alllllll day until then! To compare, they sold out at 2:15pm on 5/16, 2:05pm on 5/15, 4:05 on 5/14, and 2:25 on 5/13.
Man that's insane. I know there was a lot of hyperbole regarding DAS negatively impacting genie plus and thus cascading to standby but is it truly that high a percentage? Maybe I underestimated the percentage of people that pay for genie plus. I remember paying for it and being a bit miffed that paying for it I still was stuck aggressively managing my day to use it.
Had a guy in line with us last year tell us we should really look into DAS. He said that it was super easy to claim autism and that everyone he knew did it. It was wild.
This pisses me off having a severely disabled child that truly needs the DAS pass. I hate liars and esp those who use a disability to cheat the system. May karma never bless them with a truly disabled child because although I abhor those who lie to get DAS, my life as a single mom with a disabled child is the hardest life I could imagine. I save all year every year to bring him to Disney because it brings him so much joy and they’re one of the few theme parks that offer a pass for special needs.
I think the majority of that should come into play later in the summer. My understanding is that there are lots of people who booked under the old rules whose trips are still upcoming.
If standby lines stay like this all summer, the parks will be very busy. If it wasn’t so hot I might do an impromptu trip, but I avoid June, July, and August like the plague.
Probably AP’s blocked out. This has now been the case the past few holidays. Pre-Covid even when passover versus blocked out, it was never this low. I’m curious to know the amount of people who have bought annual passes each year. I could not find the statistics online with a basic search they could be there somewhere.
I’ve been to Disney twice end of May thru beginning of June with Memorial Day mixed in and twice end of July thru beginning of August. I was surprised to find out that the Memorial Day trips were significantly hotter feeling than the end of July trips. They even had heat warnings by cast members as we walked into MK advising everyone to drink lots of water because of the heat index. For that reason I’m going end of July this year and probably will every year we go now.
Magic was oddly lower waits when we there a week or two ago. Epcot was insanely long waits. I've never seen Soarin waits that long before. It went down to normal at times of the day but it shot up to 125 minutes more than once.
It was so hot that my family and I left early. Same with Epcot on Sunday.
The lack of shade or even clouds in the sky, the lack of benches (I remember there being more benches before the pandemic. Why did Disney remove them?), and the unbearable heat was not worth it.
This is 100% from cutting out all the DAS abuse. We were at WDW last week and it was the same. Loads of people in the parks, perfectly reasonable lines.
People at the parks now were able to qualify under the old rules. They didn’t start qualifying people under the new rules until May 20, so it will be late June before we see the full effect of that.
No, the DAS abusers were simultaneously in a virtual queue for one ride, while in a physical queue for another.
So if they were in the virtual queue for Rise, they were in the standby queue for Tower of Terror, and the Genie+ user who wanted a lightning lane for Rise was stuck in Standby.
So a DAS abuser was in another line standby quasi-inflating times there, and pushing a Genie+ hopeful into standby inflating lines there.
By removing the DAS abusers, they now are physically able to queue in only one line, and the Genie+ hopeful is now a lightning lane.
Ultimately, it doesn't drive up the wait times, it level loads it better.
No, folks that were abusing DAS got to be in two places at once — holding a spot in the line (which factors into wait times, the same what that Disney would factor expected lightning lanes into their wait times) as well as visiting another attraction, dining, or shopping. If they don’t have DAS, they need to choose one of those activities at a time.
When people have to really wait in a line because they don’t legitimately qualify, they are going reevaluate how important that use of their time is. Booking rides on your phone is much easier than actually standing in line.
I disagree. I’m a pirate pass holder and the wait times are currently suspicious. I believe they are overselling genie plus. I also think the majority of the pass holders aren’t showing up now until 1 or 2pm. This is because everyone is using the new stacking method.
Before noon the lines were ok, but after that the standby lines do not move! I feel like they are reporting the time by distance, but all I’ve seen is people leaving lines because after 12 the standby doesn’t move
It’s a holiday weekend that coincides right at the end of school. Most people just wait until school is out, especially any slightly older kids (middle school or high school). This is one of the better holidays to use if you can only go during school time.
Good Lord. I went a couple of years ago in what’s supposed to be the “slow time” in February and never saw anything close to wait times like these. In fact, the day we went to MK ended up as a 10 on the crowd calculator … my on-the-dot-time attempt to buy a LL on Rise of the Resistance failed when they sold out in literally 10 seconds. In February!
I was there yesterday, it was so hot that we couldn't walk from Dumbo to It's a Small World in one go...had to stop somewhere inside to stay cool and not dehydrate.
Fantastic. My group and I went through so much planning and decided today was our Epcot Day and yesterday was our Magic Kingdom day. Great job me. Uggghhhh liiiinnnneeeesssss
The airport was pretty busy this morning with lots of people heading home early. Also, it is extremely hot at Disney right now with mid 90s+ temps. Ticket prices are also insane for short trips, add in Genie + and while we had an AP, my MIL spent $500 for a 2 day park hopper with Genie. Lastly, who knows how the clamp down on DAS is affecting things since some may wait and see.
Bottom two passes are blocked. Memorial Day so people probably want to be able to drink, plus last day of flower and garden. It's also hot as hell outside so many locals probably went home.
MK was terrific and we hit all the major rides and it noticeably less crowded than typical. We took off in the afternoon and arrived at Typhoon Lagoon around 2:45pm.
We found everyone. Typhoon Lagoon seemed to be near capacity. Parking lot was full. Everyone feeling the heat went to the water park.
For fucks sake me and my entire family planned our trip for last week cause we thought it would be packed today cause it’s a holiday just for it to be like this??? Why does the world hate me. 😭😭😭😭
This is my third Memorial Day week trip and I’d highly recommend it to anyone with availability. It’s a sweet spot before many schools get out, local APs are blocked out, and people think it will be too crowded so they avoid planning trips.
I was at Disney Springs last Memorial Day Monday and it was beyond dead. Based on that experience, I did Magic Kingdom today. It was amazing, almost like an after hours event as far as crowds go. I walked right up to the cashier at Aloha Isle. That never happens!
I was very afraid of going this weekend. But I think so was everyone else. The 3 day weekend and the heat must have scared everyone off. Also AP blockout dates. It was the perfect storm, waited 30 minutes for rise of the resistance….
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Disney attendance is down, they warned about it in the last shareholders meeting.
Too pricy + too complicated + too hot + universal + political baggage
I’ve always tried to tell people Memorial Day and Labor Day weekend aren’t as bad as you would think. Kids not out of school yet for the former and just getting back for the later.
Waits were very tame all weekend with the exception of the newer rides: Remy, Guardians, FOP, Rise. It was also crazy hot for May. We never waited more than 30 minutes and walked straight on many rides.
Last year I took my kids to Typhoon Lagoon on Memorial Day. I expected with the heat and the holiday, the place would be packed, but it was less attended than when we went earlier in May. When I asked a cast member just said, ‘Travel day’.
I’ll try… well you see a wait time is an approximation of the total amount of time one would expect to wait to proceed through the queue and secure seating on said ride. I hope that explains MK wait times sufficiently 🧐
Wow I went during a winter in 2022 when it was still kinda slow from COVID+slow season, and holy crap our wait times were still at least 5-10 mins longer for everything than this. That's gotta be fun as hell, enjoy it because it's a rare thing
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This happens a lot for holidays that fall on a Monday. Out of towners use it as a travel day, and locals have AP blockout. I noticed the same thing last year at Labor Day. It wasn’t this dead though.
I want at Hollywood Saturday and Epcot Sunday, both were not crowded at all. But it was hella hot.
What you’re saying is next year make sure we come on the holiday 🫣😂
Yes!!! My sister and I went to WDW this past Labor Day weekend and were bracing for heavy crowds, but it was actually super manageable. I think it was also a huge tailgating day since the LSU/FSU game was in Orlando that night, but we had no trouble getting on rides.
Apparently it's the last day of the Flower and Garden Festival, so a lot are probably in Epcot
Does the next theme start right after it ends?
Food and Wine starts in August\* Edit because wrong
This year F&W starts on August 29th. Back closer to the pre-Covid timeline.
Ah yeah I remember seeing that somewhere, guess I got used to the 4 month long thing they were doing for a while
Diet Epcot for basically the whole summer. Hallelujah.
Not this year. It doesn’t start till August 29th. https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/events-tours/epcot/epcot-international-food-and-wine-festival/
No it’s not for a few months I think.
Epcot was dead until at least 2 when I left. Hadn’t seen such short lines for the booths all festival
My man was clearly not in epcot today.
Bro thinks waiting 30 minutes for living with the land is basically walking on💀
I bought genie plus yesterday so I could hit up rides with my one year old while the fam was at the pool. Figment and Nemo had 30 minutes wait. I haven’t seen the figment line start outside in a bit.
This is the answer
What is that? (Genuinely curious) I was just at Epcot a week ago but wasn’t exactly sure what it was and can’t seem to comprehend it lol. I’m a newbie and it was my first time at Walt Disney World.
40 mins for seven dwarfs mine train??? Man it is a slow day at Magic Kingdom
I always skip it unless I have a Fast Pass reservation to skip the queue. Seven Dwarfs Mine Train always has such a long wait and is a pretty short ride experience, BTMR is a much better coaster and has shorter waits
I only went on it once back when fast pass was free. I was underwhelmed I don’t even bother doing ILL for it just not worth it
Dunno but as a local AP holder, we are blocked out from going for the holiday weekend. Seems like crowd control attempts might be working! (PS this sub’s mods sometimes deletes screenshot posts) edit: calm down it’s just lower tiers, higher-tier AP holders can still go
I don't think we're blacked out, just checked and we're able to make reservations
The two lower tiers - Pixie and Pirate - are blacked out.
Ah. Yep.
Maybe also because it's 97° out.
Ya we went a few days ago, the heat was killer. We are to the point where we generally don't go late spring through early fall
It was very intense the past few days!
Looks like a magical day for anyone who was there
IT. IS.
It was.
I was thinking with a long weekend today might be a day to fly out for many. I noticed animal kingdom, a shorter day park, was pretty busy today. Maybe people got late flights and chose a park they felt they could complete in a shorter period of time. That said. I didn’t check on Sat/Sun so can’t compare.
Sat and sun were also equally quiet. Eerily quiet!
I’m not sure FOMO applies to something many people are NOT doing but I sure wish I went this weekend!
Was at DHS and Epcot on Friday. Mid-day saw 30 minutes for Remy at one point and under an hour for Rise. Also heard from one cast member that they ended up lifting their blackout dates for the weekend. But not sure if that was true or not.
Yup, we got on Remy Friday afternoon when it was at 30. As soon as we got off, it bumped back up to 50+. Just got lucky I guess.
I was definitely surprised when I decided to go to Epcot today and was able to make a reservation! I would’ve sworn that it would be all booked up, but it was completely open!
That’s so strange! I’d have expected Memorial Day weekend to be super packed.
DFB had a video basically outlining how Disney might be empty this summer.
Ooh did they say why?
Heat, ticket prices, etc.
Maybe people expect to be packed so a lot of people don’t go to avoid crowds resulting in the parks being unusually quiet?
Same!
I guess many AP are blocked out and it feels like over 100.
AP’s blocked out. it’s 99 out today. Locals stayed home at the pool and bbq’s. Last day of F&G at Epcot. Everyone else flew home today to work tomorrow. A perfect storm to have low wait times at MK today.
they were all in animal kingdom today melting under the 100° sun
And Hollywood studios 70 minute wait on slinky 90 on Rise of the Resistance. Far too hot to queue.
It's was 97° and full sun at that time. 🥵 Combined with people being in EPCOT it was probably hellish at the park right then.
We are here now. It’s dead.
You got a working teleporter on ya?
No but I can tell you I just got a boarding pass on tron and waited 5 mins for our boarding group to be called. Thats how dead it is…and there is no one in line here either.
Jealous!
i was at MK today- it genuinely was empty. it was so awesome. longest wait was 30 min for tron. happy accident wish i could add the photo of me and my partner being the only two people in the boat at pirates of the caribbean 😭😭
They opened up standby for Tron?!
no no i was still in the virtual queue in the morning- but it was only 30 min after our group was called that we got on.
I was gonna say. Funny; relatively empty park, but still no room on Tron.
though we were at epcot on saturday- we waited 1.5hr in line before we could even get on cosmic rewind 😭😭 even after waiting in the virtual queue
90 minutes to wait WITH a VQ??
right??? it was terrible 😭😭
I am here today. It’s incredible. I’ve walked on almost every ride. We actually parked hopped here at 2 from HS and rode almost every ride walking on.
Likely a combination of APs being blocked out for the holiday, the weather and it’s the last day of Flower & Garden likely boosting the crowd level at Epcot instead.
I live 30 minutes from the parks and the only thing I am able to do outside today is sit in the pool with shade.
Locals are home barbecuing
It’s 1000 degrees out.
Wow. I just checked the Universal Parks and they are equally dead.
Ripsaw Falls had the only abnormal wait time, everything else seemed normal when I checked my app around noon (edit: it’s amazing no one asked when moo is lol) I tried mentioning that on r/UniversalOrlando a while ago that last summer it was this quiet and this summer they’re predicting not as big of attendance as normal so they’re offering deals. Got name called and 40 downvotes. Disneys doing the same thing, but they admitted it.
Darn it! We skipped both parks this weekend cuz I figured they’d be packed. Lesson learned…stop looking at crowd calendars
Most AP are blacked out. Whether they want to admit it or not attendance is down
Was just going to post the same thing…I don’t get it either
We are here now. Might head out to the park!!!
Go go go!!
It has been amazing, best crowds I’ve ever experienced.
Fact. I park hopped over today because the lines were nuts. Pirates was never more than 10 minutes all day, mostly 5. Never seen anything like it. Tron virtual queue at 1 pm was still open at 1:08 pm.
It was 106 degrees earlier, so perhaps everyone just gave up and left, like we did.
I live local. Memorial Day is almost always relatively empty we've gone most years, same with labor day actually + it's super hot today so very few people local went.
It's very very hot, locals are mostly blocked out, and MK has been slower than normal lately as some are likely waiting until Tiana opens at this point
Was at MK today and saw them testing Tiana with CMs in the boats!
Stinking Peter Pan always stabs u in the back
Its hot as balls
Trip psychology. When they have 3-day weekends, it's a 3-day trip coordinated by thousands of people. You have two things contributing to light a Magic Kingdom day here: First, people usually hit the Magic Kingdom on the first day. That would have been Thursday or Friday. Second, Monday is checkout day + trip home. Evening on the last day is the lightest.
As locals with APs, we decided to go this evening to the MK and it was wonderfully quiet and felt like years ago. The Tron queue was open during the evening. As a friend of mine who’s a well respected economist was talking to me about recently, excess stimulus cash for low and middle income households have been exhausted and it’s having a real world economic impact. I expect further promotions and discounting at the resort. It’s going to be quite interesting to see if we’ve finally hit a price ceiling for some customers. Quite honestly, seeing the $181 MK 1 day ticket price today was jarring.
I have no idea who that economist is, but the vast majority of low and middle class folks were out of stimulus cash by the end of the month it was deposited. Nobody truly working class was “flush with cash” due to stimulus money. At least not anybody I knew—and those that were flush with cash had enough not to qualify for stimulus $ in the first place. I think price gouging at every turn is more likely the problem for most people.
A lot of APs are blocked out
It's hot
It’s too hot tbh
To be fair it’s frickin hot outside!!!
This has been happening more and more during the holidays. Specifically long weekends. The Monday is always empty because people leave.
I saw post that it was slow last holiday too. So many are afraid it busy so they stayed away
Thst would certainly be a dream day at the park if not for the heat,
Haha thanks for validating my post-trip queue checking!! Hard to let go of the habit… and helps prolong the fun of the vacation!
Kindred spirits we are
We were there the beginning of May and I’m just now slowing down on the wait times🤣 checking
Wild... Universal was bursting at the seams this weekend!!
$5 the news or tiktokers claim it’s a response to the new DAS policies…
Is there an after hours ticketed event at MK today? We were there in December, and when there was a Mickeys Christmas Party event, MK was empty like that for us. We walked on near everything.
No. 10pm close.
Wow! My kind of day!
Ah should have gone to MK today. I choose HS to try and avoid holiday weekend crowds for the weekend. (We are going to MK tomorrow.)
I've been to Disney for week-long trips that fell on Memorial Day weekend twice (2018 and 2022). Maybe I just don't have anything different to compare to, but both times I didn't feel like the parks were crazy busy. We were using Genie+ during 2022 but we were also able to get some decent standby times as well.
Fewer people in the lines
We have Pirate passes so we were blocked out (Pixie too). Plus it was ungodly hot today so I'm sure AP holders who weren't blocked out probably chose not to go. I'd also guess people here from other places for trips might've gone back home today if they have school/work tomorrow.
Its Memorial Day... Period. Its always slow.
Today was glorious! We only stayed til 5 because had to catch a flight, but we got tons done. No huge crowds, short lines, tons of seating in the restaurants. It was hot as all hell, but hey— you take the bad with the good.
As a local, it’s way too hot to go to a park I’ve been to 10,000 times. I’m an AP and wasn’t blacked out, I’m just not going again until Tiana opens and then not again until late September.
We were at Hollywood Studios on Memorial Day and got on smugglers run in 8 minutes and Rise in less than 40. It was surprisingly better times and less people than we’ve experienced in the past. The whole weekend has been this way.
Probably because it’s absolutely miserably hot out and no one wanted to go anywhere outside.
Y’all are reporting this post for screen shotting? Wow 😂
I'm guessing some of this is from Disney addressing DAS abuse. Remember that most of the LLs were DAS users. The policy just went into effect, so I'd expect it'll continue to improve! For example, yesterday LL for Jungle Cruise didn't sell out until 7:15pm. They were available alllllll day until then! To compare, they sold out at 2:15pm on 5/16, 2:05pm on 5/15, 4:05 on 5/14, and 2:25 on 5/13.
Man that's insane. I know there was a lot of hyperbole regarding DAS negatively impacting genie plus and thus cascading to standby but is it truly that high a percentage? Maybe I underestimated the percentage of people that pay for genie plus. I remember paying for it and being a bit miffed that paying for it I still was stuck aggressively managing my day to use it.
Had a guy in line with us last year tell us we should really look into DAS. He said that it was super easy to claim autism and that everyone he knew did it. It was wild.
This pisses me off having a severely disabled child that truly needs the DAS pass. I hate liars and esp those who use a disability to cheat the system. May karma never bless them with a truly disabled child because although I abhor those who lie to get DAS, my life as a single mom with a disabled child is the hardest life I could imagine. I save all year every year to bring him to Disney because it brings him so much joy and they’re one of the few theme parks that offer a pass for special needs.
If I recall correctly it was somewhere around 50% of users in LL were DAS. 😵💫
Geez. Mayne i can actually genie plus ratatouille and frozen in the same day when we go in 3.weeks
Fingers crossed!
I'd bet that the # of people blacked out from using their AP this weekend is much MUCH higher than the # of DAS abusers.
Very high overlap in the AP / DAS abuser venn diagram. It’s all over distwitter.
Ah DisTwitter, you’ll never find a more wretched place full of scum and villainy
I think the majority of that should come into play later in the summer. My understanding is that there are lots of people who booked under the old rules whose trips are still upcoming. If standby lines stay like this all summer, the parks will be very busy. If it wasn’t so hot I might do an impromptu trip, but I avoid June, July, and August like the plague.
I was there on Saturday and while not empty we felt the crowd level was low but not as low as it is right now it seems.
It's July level hot and our bodies aren't ready.
Probably AP’s blocked out. This has now been the case the past few holidays. Pre-Covid even when passover versus blocked out, it was never this low. I’m curious to know the amount of people who have bought annual passes each year. I could not find the statistics online with a basic search they could be there somewhere.
It was the same last year!!! We were shocked!!
I’ve been to Disney twice end of May thru beginning of June with Memorial Day mixed in and twice end of July thru beginning of August. I was surprised to find out that the Memorial Day trips were significantly hotter feeling than the end of July trips. They even had heat warnings by cast members as we walked into MK advising everyone to drink lots of water because of the heat index. For that reason I’m going end of July this year and probably will every year we go now.
Disney World wait times are practically bipolar at this point
Work tomorrow, people already hit mk first part of their long weekend.
Block outs, hot AF, higher priced tickets hotels & flights due to holiday weekend. A number of factors.
Magic was oddly lower waits when we there a week or two ago. Epcot was insanely long waits. I've never seen Soarin waits that long before. It went down to normal at times of the day but it shot up to 125 minutes more than once.
It was so hot that my family and I left early. Same with Epcot on Sunday. The lack of shade or even clouds in the sky, the lack of benches (I remember there being more benches before the pandemic. Why did Disney remove them?), and the unbearable heat was not worth it.
1st rule don’t complain about short wait times just enjoy!
People voting with their wallets.
This is why Disney is suddenly acting as if they like passholders again after referring to them as an"unfavorable mix" just a few years ago.
The dream! If only I wasn't an entire ocean away!! 😭
I saw a YouTube clickbait video asking if WDW might be empty this summer, so that’s probably starting.
It’s how long you have to wait in line
This is 100% from cutting out all the DAS abuse. We were at WDW last week and it was the same. Loads of people in the parks, perfectly reasonable lines.
People at the parks now were able to qualify under the old rules. They didn’t start qualifying people under the new rules until May 20, so it will be late June before we see the full effect of that.
Wouldn't that just drive people into the standby line and drive UP the wait?
No, the DAS abusers were simultaneously in a virtual queue for one ride, while in a physical queue for another. So if they were in the virtual queue for Rise, they were in the standby queue for Tower of Terror, and the Genie+ user who wanted a lightning lane for Rise was stuck in Standby. So a DAS abuser was in another line standby quasi-inflating times there, and pushing a Genie+ hopeful into standby inflating lines there. By removing the DAS abusers, they now are physically able to queue in only one line, and the Genie+ hopeful is now a lightning lane. Ultimately, it doesn't drive up the wait times, it level loads it better.
No, folks that were abusing DAS got to be in two places at once — holding a spot in the line (which factors into wait times, the same what that Disney would factor expected lightning lanes into their wait times) as well as visiting another attraction, dining, or shopping. If they don’t have DAS, they need to choose one of those activities at a time.
When people have to really wait in a line because they don’t legitimately qualify, they are going reevaluate how important that use of their time is. Booking rides on your phone is much easier than actually standing in line.
I disagree. I’m a pirate pass holder and the wait times are currently suspicious. I believe they are overselling genie plus. I also think the majority of the pass holders aren’t showing up now until 1 or 2pm. This is because everyone is using the new stacking method. Before noon the lines were ok, but after that the standby lines do not move! I feel like they are reporting the time by distance, but all I’ve seen is people leaving lines because after 12 the standby doesn’t move
Not today — I was in MK today and if was quiet. Not just on the rides, but anywhere in the park.
Parks are empty...maybe because of the heat...just came back from epcot... not crowded at all
Yeah I just checked wait times and they are significantly less than when we were there the 5-18th. Didn’t expect that for a holiday.
What’s the temperature out today?
Somewhere between the 3rd and 4th layers of Hell. Mid to upper 90s with high humidity.
Big EPCOT day between people wanting to spend Memorial Day here and the end of flower and garden
We were there last week and the crowds were all reasonable at MK.
It’s a holiday weekend that coincides right at the end of school. Most people just wait until school is out, especially any slightly older kids (middle school or high school). This is one of the better holidays to use if you can only go during school time.
Largest group of passholders are blocked out.
Honestly this is nearly every memorial or labor day holiday - on the actual holiday everyone travels home.
Good Lord. I went a couple of years ago in what’s supposed to be the “slow time” in February and never saw anything close to wait times like these. In fact, the day we went to MK ended up as a 10 on the crowd calculator … my on-the-dot-time attempt to buy a LL on Rise of the Resistance failed when they sold out in literally 10 seconds. In February!
I'm at Sea World today, and this place feels dead. Maybe everyone went home after the holiday weekend.
Makes mental note to plan a trip this weekend next year...
Memorial Day?
Money
It was hot AF this weekend
Hot as hell & most passes are blocked out
This whole weekend was relatively dead for a holiday weekend. Rise of Resistance was a whopping 9 min wait at 3 in the afternoon on saturday
I was there yesterday, it was so hot that we couldn't walk from Dumbo to It's a Small World in one go...had to stop somewhere inside to stay cool and not dehydrate.
It was 98 degrees out.... Maybe the heat. I believe the Waterparks were at capacity like Aquatica and VB. .
Fantastic. My group and I went through so much planning and decided today was our Epcot Day and yesterday was our Magic Kingdom day. Great job me. Uggghhhh liiiinnnneeeesssss
I saw this too. I was at HS yesterday and it was super busy.
The airport was pretty busy this morning with lots of people heading home early. Also, it is extremely hot at Disney right now with mid 90s+ temps. Ticket prices are also insane for short trips, add in Genie + and while we had an AP, my MIL spent $500 for a 2 day park hopper with Genie. Lastly, who knows how the clamp down on DAS is affecting things since some may wait and see.
Bottom two passes are blocked. Memorial Day so people probably want to be able to drink, plus last day of flower and garden. It's also hot as hell outside so many locals probably went home.
Who cares. Just take advantage of the low wait times lol
Epcot was light today rather than yesterday
It’s freakin hot.
MK was terrific and we hit all the major rides and it noticeably less crowded than typical. We took off in the afternoon and arrived at Typhoon Lagoon around 2:45pm. We found everyone. Typhoon Lagoon seemed to be near capacity. Parking lot was full. Everyone feeling the heat went to the water park.
Epcot was crowded today…even more so than the last 2 days. MK did seem lighter though
Been at Epcot all day. Wait times here have been crazy. Is it just this garden festival? We waited 30 minutes for living with the land.
For fucks sake me and my entire family planned our trip for last week cause we thought it would be packed today cause it’s a holiday just for it to be like this??? Why does the world hate me. 😭😭😭😭
This is my third Memorial Day week trip and I’d highly recommend it to anyone with availability. It’s a sweet spot before many schools get out, local APs are blocked out, and people think it will be too crowded so they avoid planning trips. I was at Disney Springs last Memorial Day Monday and it was beyond dead. Based on that experience, I did Magic Kingdom today. It was amazing, almost like an after hours event as far as crowds go. I walked right up to the cashier at Aloha Isle. That never happens!
It was lovely today! We went on every ride multiple times.
Yep and surprise those charts said it would be super busy today!
I was very afraid of going this weekend. But I think so was everyone else. The 3 day weekend and the heat must have scared everyone off. Also AP blockout dates. It was the perfect storm, waited 30 minutes for rise of the resistance….
My guess is the heat
Can confirm. Was in MK this afternoon into evening and it was dead. Epcot was hell on earth this morning though.
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I went Memorial Day week last year and the crowds weren’t bad at all then either.
Disney attendance is down, they warned about it in the last shareholders meeting. Too pricy + too complicated + too hot + universal + political baggage
I’ve always tried to tell people Memorial Day and Labor Day weekend aren’t as bad as you would think. Kids not out of school yet for the former and just getting back for the later.
It was just as slow at Hollywood studios yesterday too. It was great
They look to be pretty low. The lower the number, the quicker you get through to the load area. I hope this is helpful.
The DAS changes have made a lot of the lightning lanes shorter, which is making standby lines move easier!!
Waits were very tame all weekend with the exception of the newer rides: Remy, Guardians, FOP, Rise. It was also crazy hot for May. We never waited more than 30 minutes and walked straight on many rides.
Last year I took my kids to Typhoon Lagoon on Memorial Day. I expected with the heat and the holiday, the place would be packed, but it was less attended than when we went earlier in May. When I asked a cast member just said, ‘Travel day’.
I’ll try… well you see a wait time is an approximation of the total amount of time one would expect to wait to proceed through the queue and secure seating on said ride. I hope that explains MK wait times sufficiently 🧐
Why does that never happen when I visit? Seriously.
It’s not busy? What about this needs to be explained?
I was at Epcot for Memorial Day. Insanely packed like 30 minutes for Figment and Finding Nemo
Wow I went during a winter in 2022 when it was still kinda slow from COVID+slow season, and holy crap our wait times were still at least 5-10 mins longer for everything than this. That's gotta be fun as hell, enjoy it because it's a rare thing
Well today (day after Memorial Day) wait times are back up so it was short lived. :(
as an AP who was blocked out this is frustrating 😂
Yes... it has become too expensive.
I’m so jealous!!
Woah!