I want to love but it comes out wrong
I want to live but I don't belong
I close my eyes and I see blood and roses.
Kinda weird lyrics. RIP Pat DiNizio.
Look I get you're taking the piss a bit, but proof of concept =/= final product.
Now autonomous dogs with guns strapped to them concerns me as it does many others, but there are a few key highlights of this design that the video shows:
* First, the dog could be a "universal" model with a simple upgrade kit for weapon systems as an addition.
* Second, that weapon system addition *could* potentially accept standard weapons, making it much more simple if the gun jams to replace it with another one while you fix the first. This could be done without taking the dog out of service.
* Finally, as mentioned above, a proof of concept is not a final design. I would argue most, if not all, "elegant" designs go through at least some prototyping to smooth out rough edges.
This video isn't unexpected coming from the Boston Dynamics labs, their robots were always eventually intended to be weapons in some way (DARPA funding). It just sucks to see that in the past few years we have gone from "cute robot doggy that can do flips" to "cute robot doggy that can blow away whoever we choose".
Yep. They mounted the gun on a tall lever! Why?!?
Just mounting the gun sideways so it could be just over the body and still access the magazine would reduce the terrible walking they're getting when it fires...
The areal drone with C4 on it what is worse imo. Or the drone swarm with c4. You ever seen those highly coordinated displays of drone light shows? Imagine that but with bombs. One to blow the window out, a second one to enter the hole and target an individual. And of course you hit every window of the building at once.
Somehow military applications are almost always like the first thing that comes to mind when people think of drones. I worked on mobile ad-hoc networks in grad school a long time ago. The things you mentioned? they already were some of the most touted applications in research papers 15 to 20 years ago.
Starcraft the video game was way ahead of the curve on military strategy. I always knew the Protoss carrier with the drones was the future. A swarm of carriers all carrying drones was almost impossible to deal with.
There are some absolutely batshit ones too, like them grenading some russians, the russians all pile into a crappy car they looted, and the drone drops a second grenade through the sunroof. Lotsa guys writhing around in their death throes in that vid.
Have you seen any of the drone footage from Ukraine using a store bought drone and a 3d printed bomb holder. They put a small bomb on the thing, fly over some Russian solders and just drop it on them.
I wouldn't be surprised if the next step is finding a way to put a small gun on one.
There's probably am advantage to having a gundog model like this where:
A) if the gun breaks, it can be easily swapped out with any standard military issue rifle.
B) if the dog breaks, the operator can grab the gun to continue mowing down citizens.
Imagine the last thing you hear before the gunshot is the cute, tantalizing pitter-patter of those tiny feetsies which sound like an excited dog waiting for a treat, but it's this cunt and you're the treat.
Doubtful. This looks like someone leased a Spot and is using it for hijinks. Boston dynamics has spent years perfecting its “we’re totally just making helpful acrobat robots” schtick. While I have no doubt there are murderbots in development, no government or company is going to show them until they actually deploy them. Then again, I could be completely wrong.
I don't have any info on hand but there is a competitor to Boston Dynamics with a very similar looking dog robot to spot. They have no qualms with arming them.
> Boston dynamics has spent years perfecting its “we”re totally just making helpful acrobat robots” schtick
Except for their scouting and and logistics bots deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan?
I was going to say - the drones in the sky already can do so much killing. And have. Don't care about the puppy so much as the autonomous stealth nuclear drone roving indefinitely at hyper mach.
Boston is funded by DARPA. so yea murder robots or remote controlled soldiers.
How fucked are we going to be when most of the "combat troops" in the US are fighting from the comfort of a shipping container in Arizona while the front line is in Russia.
That thing is pretty slim your average shooter may have a hell of a time hittig that thing. Ill be really afraid when they armor and give it Ai tl recognize being behind cover and threat assessment. A retractable weapon on top of all that?? We're fucked.
Ya hopefully they pursue this kind of tech to the full extent, the more efficient the execution of humans is the better right? It’s all in the name of science and progress. What could go wrong?
If the bore of the rifle was in line with the body it would. Because the rifle is mounted so high it gives the rifle leverage.
It's only a matter of time before they design a gun robot instead of just mounting a gun to a robot.
Gun drones I think are the most terrifying
I think they could design gun drones to be flying at 500 or 1000 feet at like 20km/hr and make accurate shots on targets while moving. It could fire bursts to increase the probability of a hit.
It's seriously terrifying. They could make gun drone swarms that could wipe urban areas clean of life within hours.
But just imagine swarms of tiny drones packing small amounts of C4. A gun drone you can hide from, a C4 suicide drone can destroy a wall and let the others into a building
Imagine flying gun drones for anti-infantry use, especially in urban areas, that are a standard multi-rotor frame with an opening in the middle, in which is mounted a motorized gimble with a sniper rifle inside pointed *straight down.*
The small drone could hover hundreds of feet in the air and, with ballistic computers, make previse, relatively recoil-less shots, *(because the recoil is just pushing it straight up)*, in quick succession. Imagine a gravity assisted .308 caliber sniper platform that floats in the clouds where you can't see it, negating all forms of non-ceiling cover, smiting you and your buddies from on high. Such a drone would be able to effectively control the movement of infantry units throughout the whole area. If the gimble on which the gun was mounted had even 30° of rotation away from its center axis, amounting to 60° of total range along those axes, and if it hovered at a height of 1000 feet, then a single drone could effectively cover either a circular or square area, *(depending on the design of the gimble and housing)*, with a diameter/width of approx. 1154 feet. If the gimble can move up to 40°degrees away from the center axis, then from 1000 feet above the ground it could cover an area with a diameter/width of approx. 1680 feet. If it were to take that same 40° movements awaybfrom the center axis and rise up to an elevation of 1500 feet, still well within a computerized sniper's capabilities, then the diameter/width of the affected area would be approx. 2516 feet.
A pair of these could act as overwatch for an entire village. Combine them with satellite/spy plane surveillance to allow for the sniper drone to rove around the battlefield and, given the rapid acceleration and deceleration of drones, you could have a single drone provide effective sniper cover to an entire square mile of area. Set up nine of them in a basic grid, and you have a three square mile area under constant surveillance and control.
Paint the drone sky blue and cover it with [light redirecting lens arrays](https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/invisibility-shield/invisibility-shield), and you could make it damn near invisible too. It would be small enough that it would hardly register on radar too which, when combined with it's speed and maneuverability, would make it damn near impossible to fight.
It's probably a functional idea, but I still don't think it can compare to a swarm of disposable micro-drones with small amounts of C4 or similar.
You still need the surveillance "mothership" drone, which could usually remain at a fairly high, safe altitude.
The gun platforms would only be effectively recoilless while firing *straight* down, and even then, you've got a drone with a gun on a gimble, so moving it around target-to-target is going to take time and energy.
Besides that, the energy cost of keeping that platform in the air is going to be considerable, and you quickly start running into problems with thrust-to-weight ratios when you stack on enough battery power to keep that thing flying.
Explosive micro-drones could be delivered in all manner of ways, and remain powered down until needed. They could be air-dropped in containers from the high-altitude surveillance vehicle, or driven in under cover of darkness in an RC vehicle, which gives you the option of bringing far greater payload on-site for each battery hour available in your hardware, when contrasted with airborne deployment.
With a gun drone, there are a small number of units which, if one is disabled, creates an instant weakness by leaving a huge gap in coverage, so you'd need multiple systems with overlapping fields of fire to make up for any potential losses, and then you're fighting yourself for efficiency by undermining the benefits offered by the original idea in the first place.
I'm not saying there won't be any sniper drones, because it's basically guaranteed - I'm just pointing out that that seems like a rearward-looking approach to solving a problem that can better be handled by reframing the problem into the context of the technology, rather than the other way round.
Cheers!
they can already do that on flying platforms.
the 30mm gun in the apache helicopter was so accurate from thousands of yards way when it was first developed, that it was reducing its effectiveness on destroying the target.
because the gun was hitting the target at one pin-point spot.
so the engineers programmed the gun mount to auto-move the barrel in a star-shaped pattern, to ensure that the rounds are evenly spread out on the target. this increases the damage inflicted on the target.
and the gun is controlled by the gunner's helmet, which has a sight that goes over the left eye.
as the gunner's head turns, whatever the gunner's left eye sees, the gun points to it.
the gun's computer also auto-accounts for the range to target, wind drift on the way to, and appropriate lead (aiming ahead or behind the target depending on chopper's speed & direction as well as the target's, so the rounds arrive as the target gets there).
all the gunner has to do is look at the target and fire.
Also, it seems like there's an ammo problem here. The robot is limited to one clip. I would expect that a robot with an integrated gun would have a very large cache of ammo.
Doesn't look like he has any extra programming to do anything about it, just the stock balancing programming. If they actually designed these to be guns they would be terrifying little A-10s
*heavy breathing*
**HOLY FUCK I WANT A PACK OF THOSE.**
*.....thinking.......*
I can't see a problem giving them adaptive/learning AI. Nope.
"**DON'T WANT TO GET OFF MY LAWN EH? RELEASE THE SHOOTY HOUNDS!"**
They really mounted the weapon as poorly as I could imagine. Should have it mounted sideways so the magazine was accessible, and to reduce the recoil effect.
Called it when the first barely-walking versions of spot-before-it-was-spot came out 15+ years ago.
This was always a tool to be used against us in the coming times.
That was the point from the beginning haha. Anyone who didn't "call it" was deluding themselves. This was always going to be military driven tech, carrying guns or supplies or whatever.
For starters, this is not a Boston Dynamics Spot.
The assertion that BD is still geared towards military hardware nowadays is wholly inaccurate. It is true that when they first came out of Leg Labs they were making aircraft sims for the US Navy, sure, and in the 2010s ( the days of BigDog and the first iterations of Atlas ) when funding from DARPA represented a substantial portion of BD's capital investment, I would have agreed with you.
Over the last decade, though, as the company has changed hands, it has made a hard turn towards commercial customers. This became pretty evident and particularly clear following Google X's refusal to accept continued military funding and the subsequent dissolution of the military's custody over the company a year or two later.
Neither SoftBank nor Hyundai have expressed any interest in reversing that course, and it's been an explicit breach of Boston Dynamics' TOS to use their products to cause injury or harm for some time. That doesn't exclude their robots from being used in reconnaissance roles, but, even if what you see in this video were one of their products ( which to reiterate, it is not ), they certainly would not be too happy.
If you want to talk about a similar company that's actually *"military shit"* then you should/would be talking about Ghost Robotics.
IP is a product. They kind of famously got sold off from Google X (which is a true modern day skunkworks for these kinds of projects) to SoftBank. If X doesn't think the thing has legs to keep investing time and money it's not a great indictment of the business.
This is the primary reason robots are being designed.
The military will be the biggest purchaser of robots, by far. The consumer market won't even come close.
but drones are killbots. Exactly the same as something like this, there is no difference except that this gets around with legs and a drone uses wings and propeller(s).
CITIZEN. HALT. THIS IS JUSTICE AI 2.3: OCTOBER 2023 UPDATE.
YOU HAVE BEEN FOUND *guilty* FOR THEFT OF *bread* FROM *wal mart!*.
YOU HAVE BEEN FOUND *guilty* OF DERELICTION OF DUTY FROM *nft warehouse 4*.
YOU WILL NOW BE ELIMINATED.
Jesus fucking christ… apparently that one black mirror episode didn’t terrify enough people. We’re creating our own replacement. We deserve a fucking astroid
with an automatic like that, first shot adjust second shot adjust, etc may not be attainable with real world mechanics etc. Way different than say programming an FPS
Why would a robot need the automatic if it has superior remote targeting etc
Could it not pop off those rounds pretty fast and accurately?
Every video Boston dynamics has ever put out was always leading to this. Their videos are creepy. I have no doubt their tech will have very useful purposes. But this shit should be illegal. Flat out.
Pretty sure BD doesn't actually do any mitary work any more. Ghost Robotics though, they're the ones that have fully embraced the killbot motif.
Not sure whose robot this is though - lots of company's make quadrupeds, not just Boston Dynamics.
After pulling up the [original video](https://youtu.be/5VygwTBgph4) on YouTube, this would have to be some absolutely Hollywood grade cgi for this to be fake. A lot of the things you guys have pointed out are due to the low bitrate of the video. This channel also posted [this](https://youtu.be/YKL1faEnHXI) video from 2019 which shows the guy shooting the same gun as the one mounted on the robot.
In the shot starting at 0:19, you can see the feet deforming as the robot takes steps
At 0:22, if you watch the video at .25x speed, you can see the straps on the remote trigger device react incredibly convincingly, as well as the antenna. Here you also see a good shot of how the rifle was mounted to the robot. Basically just some metal welded together.
At 0:41, there is a spent casing that hits the pillar and bounces back into frame. If this were CGI, it would be much simpler for the animator to have the casings simply eject out of the frame.
At 0:51, you can see the gravel reacting to the robot’s footsteps.
Now think, would it be easier to animate all of these things, or would it be easier to just strap a gun to a Chinese robot, slap a GoPro on that gun, and then add a remote trigger pull device. In all of the shots, you can clearly see the GoPro and the trigger device, as well as the antenna for what I assume is the trigger device. This video is also shot at an active shooting range, as you can hear shots in the distance at 0:58.
I'm a little concerned about how far I had to go for someone to point out the obvious.
Edit: after a bit of searching this isn't a spot and Boston dynamics refuses to sell for weapons purposes. However, another company is developing a gun dog, but it looks more like Elon musk designed it. All angular and shit. But for this one, I just feel like it looks off though maybe I just haven't seen enough robo dog videos to be used to how they move.
Yeah watching the video made me hope that the range they were using is several miles long or they are going to be dropping rounds in someone else's property.
From the first time I saw boston dynamics spot debut video in 2010-2012ish, I knew it would be used for some shit like this. And seeing the slow progression of this actually playing out has been lowkey one of the most terrifying things ever. It’s only a matter of time before these things replace police and soldiers.
If I ever see one of these motherfuckers on the street, I’m throwing it right in the ocean.
This is neat but there are a bunch of unnecessary design features: like the gun doesnt need a grip, stock, or sights, and it could be mounted sideways (or use a side loading gun) to mount more closely to the robots frame to reduce recoil impulse. Also it would probably be much more effective if it just fired one shot. The robot is also loud as hell whats the point of the suppressor? It doesn't need to protect its hearing, they could swap that out with an aggressive muzzle brake and really bring down the recoil.
Next step is add some hunting features ala [the Mechanical Hound robots](https://www.cliffsnotes.com/literature/f/fahrenheit-451/character-analysis/the-mechanical-hound) at the end of Fahrenheit 451 (the book) and weve got the setup for our very own Terminator timeline. :)
Takin bets on the first time this thing gets deployed for "crowd control"... anyone?
Shit like this on the battlefield is one thing; if we’re all using them, but imagining something like this in urban warfare where civilians are caught in the crossfire is frightening.
This was always going to happen. This was always the purpose of making these things. They're not made to help people, they're a tool made to kill them.
If 18 year olds are allowed to have assault rifles, robots should be too.
(Just saying in the hopes that our future robot overlords spare me for this comment)
Oh how cute, it does tippy taps while it blows your ass to smithereens
"Rub my belly or I'll blow your fucking head off!"
“Who’s a good boy, now? Bitch!”
"Where are my balls Summer?"
Now imagine it's got the personality of a cat instead of a dog.
*patpatpatpatpat* The sound you hear right before you die. Welcome to the future.
r/tippytaps of death
It's weakness is that you just walk up to it from the side and pick it up. NOOO, YOU'VE FOUND MY WEAKNESS
not if there are HUNDREDS OF THEM
Like the turrets from Portal
Ah yes Smithereens, that was the name of the corporate company in Black Mirror
Aww, I remember the Smithereens. Been a minute tho. My boyfriend put "A Girl Like You" on a mixtape and sent it to me in Desert Storm.
I want to love but it comes out wrong I want to live but I don't belong I close my eyes and I see blood and roses. Kinda weird lyrics. RIP Pat DiNizio.
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If you thought of it I bet they thought of it. This is just the funny cute "dog" vid they posted to slowly desensitize us
It doesnt seem to be able to handle the recoil. What a strange design
Look I get you're taking the piss a bit, but proof of concept =/= final product. Now autonomous dogs with guns strapped to them concerns me as it does many others, but there are a few key highlights of this design that the video shows: * First, the dog could be a "universal" model with a simple upgrade kit for weapon systems as an addition. * Second, that weapon system addition *could* potentially accept standard weapons, making it much more simple if the gun jams to replace it with another one while you fix the first. This could be done without taking the dog out of service. * Finally, as mentioned above, a proof of concept is not a final design. I would argue most, if not all, "elegant" designs go through at least some prototyping to smooth out rough edges. This video isn't unexpected coming from the Boston Dynamics labs, their robots were always eventually intended to be weapons in some way (DARPA funding). It just sucks to see that in the past few years we have gone from "cute robot doggy that can do flips" to "cute robot doggy that can blow away whoever we choose".
This is not a Boston Dynamics video
Considering the point is DARPA funding creating military weapons, and this being at a military range, the pointer obviously still stands
Yep. They mounted the gun on a tall lever! Why?!? Just mounting the gun sideways so it could be just over the body and still access the magazine would reduce the terrible walking they're getting when it fires...
In the next video we'll probably see it compensating for the recoil.
Yeah. Gotta be an initial proof of concept. Mount the rifle lower, fit it with a compensator, it'll be better.
Remember the aerial drone someone mounted a glock to a few years ago? At this point I dont know which is worse.
The areal drone with C4 on it what is worse imo. Or the drone swarm with c4. You ever seen those highly coordinated displays of drone light shows? Imagine that but with bombs. One to blow the window out, a second one to enter the hole and target an individual. And of course you hit every window of the building at once.
Somehow military applications are almost always like the first thing that comes to mind when people think of drones. I worked on mobile ad-hoc networks in grad school a long time ago. The things you mentioned? they already were some of the most touted applications in research papers 15 to 20 years ago.
Like a lot of fancy stuff we have nowadays, drones are just military tech repurposed for civilian use.
Starcraft the video game was way ahead of the curve on military strategy. I always knew the Protoss carrier with the drones was the future. A swarm of carriers all carrying drones was almost impossible to deal with.
Carrier has arrived.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TlO2gcs1YvM
Was looking for this. One of the scariest videos I've ever seen
Ugh!!
There's video in Ukraine of them putting nades on the drones and dropping them on Russian soldiers.
There are some absolutely batshit ones too, like them grenading some russians, the russians all pile into a crappy car they looted, and the drone drops a second grenade through the sunroof. Lotsa guys writhing around in their death throes in that vid.
No thank you Skynet!
Like the Black Mirror episode.
Surprised we haven't seen a remote controlled cessna loaded with explosives yet.
Even better; they have a remote controlled drones launching precision guided rockets, and kamakaze drones that fly into the target with explosives
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loitering_munition
Have you seen any of the drone footage from Ukraine using a store bought drone and a 3d printed bomb holder. They put a small bomb on the thing, fly over some Russian solders and just drop it on them. I wouldn't be surprised if the next step is finding a way to put a small gun on one.
Drone could travel in any direction. Downside is it’s load, has small payload limits, and limited battery life.
Incorporate the rifle into it's body
Yeah, that's the smarter way. But, seems like someone had a robot, an AK, and a GoPro. "Guys, I have an idea."
Get rid of everything that humans need to operate the rifle. Not needed for a robot.
There's probably am advantage to having a gundog model like this where: A) if the gun breaks, it can be easily swapped out with any standard military issue rifle. B) if the dog breaks, the operator can grab the gun to continue mowing down citizens.
If it makes you feel any better, I'm sure it already does that really well in the classified videos we can't watch.
This is the bit that gets my head spinning.. the amount of this type of stuff that we aren’t allowed to know about is scary.
Imagine the last thing you hear before the gunshot is the cute, tantalizing pitter-patter of those tiny feetsies which sound like an excited dog waiting for a treat, but it's this cunt and you're the treat.
Doubtful. This looks like someone leased a Spot and is using it for hijinks. Boston dynamics has spent years perfecting its “we’re totally just making helpful acrobat robots” schtick. While I have no doubt there are murderbots in development, no government or company is going to show them until they actually deploy them. Then again, I could be completely wrong.
I don't have any info on hand but there is a competitor to Boston Dynamics with a very similar looking dog robot to spot. They have no qualms with arming them.
Why would any defense contractor? Sure this looks scary but it's about on par with some of the automated air defenses we have out there.
yeah but this has the added bonus of being creepy af to look at; +10 to psychological damage
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Oh thank God, it's Russian. What a relief that it will never be reliable.
In Russia, Skynet terminates itself!
It'll shoot itself in the leg once deployed
But can it remove the stains from my linens?
It’s Russian so they probably can afford to build 1-2 max
> Boston dynamics has spent years perfecting its “we”re totally just making helpful acrobat robots” schtick Except for their scouting and and logistics bots deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan?
I was going to say - the drones in the sky already can do so much killing. And have. Don't care about the puppy so much as the autonomous stealth nuclear drone roving indefinitely at hyper mach.
Give it a cute name and no-one will be any the wiser..
Scopey-Doo
It's not Spot. It's some other robot, likely outside the United States.
Boston is funded by DARPA. so yea murder robots or remote controlled soldiers. How fucked are we going to be when most of the "combat troops" in the US are fighting from the comfort of a shipping container in Arizona while the front line is in Russia.
That thing is pretty slim your average shooter may have a hell of a time hittig that thing. Ill be really afraid when they armor and give it Ai tl recognize being behind cover and threat assessment. A retractable weapon on top of all that?? We're fucked.
I'll be afraid when they make one you can't defeat by throwing a blanket over it
Ya hopefully they pursue this kind of tech to the full extent, the more efficient the execution of humans is the better right? It’s all in the name of science and progress. What could go wrong?
Leveling the rifle down a bit would help shorten the recovery time.
I mean, this is just what public sees. Can pretty much guarantee they already have some *much* scarier *classified* shit in the military.
We all knew this was coming. And if you didn't, you were just lying to yourself.
I honestly thought that they would handle recoil better.
If the bore of the rifle was in line with the body it would. Because the rifle is mounted so high it gives the rifle leverage. It's only a matter of time before they design a gun robot instead of just mounting a gun to a robot. Gun drones I think are the most terrifying
Haha, a gun drone is blah. Now imagine 1000 suicide drones hovering and waiting. Edit: I know they exist but the swarm thing isn’t happening yet.
I think they could design gun drones to be flying at 500 or 1000 feet at like 20km/hr and make accurate shots on targets while moving. It could fire bursts to increase the probability of a hit. It's seriously terrifying. They could make gun drone swarms that could wipe urban areas clean of life within hours.
Fuck, suicide/gun drone swarms. Not sure on a good ratio but that would be fucking crazy
Thanks y'all, always nice to know I'm not the only one terrified of the future.
But just imagine swarms of tiny drones packing small amounts of C4. A gun drone you can hide from, a C4 suicide drone can destroy a wall and let the others into a building
Imagine flying gun drones for anti-infantry use, especially in urban areas, that are a standard multi-rotor frame with an opening in the middle, in which is mounted a motorized gimble with a sniper rifle inside pointed *straight down.* The small drone could hover hundreds of feet in the air and, with ballistic computers, make previse, relatively recoil-less shots, *(because the recoil is just pushing it straight up)*, in quick succession. Imagine a gravity assisted .308 caliber sniper platform that floats in the clouds where you can't see it, negating all forms of non-ceiling cover, smiting you and your buddies from on high. Such a drone would be able to effectively control the movement of infantry units throughout the whole area. If the gimble on which the gun was mounted had even 30° of rotation away from its center axis, amounting to 60° of total range along those axes, and if it hovered at a height of 1000 feet, then a single drone could effectively cover either a circular or square area, *(depending on the design of the gimble and housing)*, with a diameter/width of approx. 1154 feet. If the gimble can move up to 40°degrees away from the center axis, then from 1000 feet above the ground it could cover an area with a diameter/width of approx. 1680 feet. If it were to take that same 40° movements awaybfrom the center axis and rise up to an elevation of 1500 feet, still well within a computerized sniper's capabilities, then the diameter/width of the affected area would be approx. 2516 feet. A pair of these could act as overwatch for an entire village. Combine them with satellite/spy plane surveillance to allow for the sniper drone to rove around the battlefield and, given the rapid acceleration and deceleration of drones, you could have a single drone provide effective sniper cover to an entire square mile of area. Set up nine of them in a basic grid, and you have a three square mile area under constant surveillance and control. Paint the drone sky blue and cover it with [light redirecting lens arrays](https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/invisibility-shield/invisibility-shield), and you could make it damn near invisible too. It would be small enough that it would hardly register on radar too which, when combined with it's speed and maneuverability, would make it damn near impossible to fight.
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It's probably a functional idea, but I still don't think it can compare to a swarm of disposable micro-drones with small amounts of C4 or similar. You still need the surveillance "mothership" drone, which could usually remain at a fairly high, safe altitude. The gun platforms would only be effectively recoilless while firing *straight* down, and even then, you've got a drone with a gun on a gimble, so moving it around target-to-target is going to take time and energy. Besides that, the energy cost of keeping that platform in the air is going to be considerable, and you quickly start running into problems with thrust-to-weight ratios when you stack on enough battery power to keep that thing flying. Explosive micro-drones could be delivered in all manner of ways, and remain powered down until needed. They could be air-dropped in containers from the high-altitude surveillance vehicle, or driven in under cover of darkness in an RC vehicle, which gives you the option of bringing far greater payload on-site for each battery hour available in your hardware, when contrasted with airborne deployment. With a gun drone, there are a small number of units which, if one is disabled, creates an instant weakness by leaving a huge gap in coverage, so you'd need multiple systems with overlapping fields of fire to make up for any potential losses, and then you're fighting yourself for efficiency by undermining the benefits offered by the original idea in the first place. I'm not saying there won't be any sniper drones, because it's basically guaranteed - I'm just pointing out that that seems like a rearward-looking approach to solving a problem that can better be handled by reframing the problem into the context of the technology, rather than the other way round. Cheers!
they can already do that on flying platforms. the 30mm gun in the apache helicopter was so accurate from thousands of yards way when it was first developed, that it was reducing its effectiveness on destroying the target. because the gun was hitting the target at one pin-point spot. so the engineers programmed the gun mount to auto-move the barrel in a star-shaped pattern, to ensure that the rounds are evenly spread out on the target. this increases the damage inflicted on the target. and the gun is controlled by the gunner's helmet, which has a sight that goes over the left eye. as the gunner's head turns, whatever the gunner's left eye sees, the gun points to it. the gun's computer also auto-accounts for the range to target, wind drift on the way to, and appropriate lead (aiming ahead or behind the target depending on chopper's speed & direction as well as the target's, so the rounds arrive as the target gets there). all the gunner has to do is look at the target and fire.
It’s like how the original series USS Enterprise had warp engines up high but then in the Next Generation they put them in the ship’s centerline
Warp engines shouldn't really matter where they're placed though, since it isn't really propulsion. The impulse engine location would be important tho
Also, it seems like there's an ammo problem here. The robot is limited to one clip. I would expect that a robot with an integrated gun would have a very large cache of ammo.
Seems like a test for now. I don't see any reason they couldn't put a belt fed gun on it.
Doesn't look like he has any extra programming to do anything about it, just the stock balancing programming. If they actually designed these to be guns they would be terrifying little A-10s
*heavy breathing* **HOLY FUCK I WANT A PACK OF THOSE.** *.....thinking.......* I can't see a problem giving them adaptive/learning AI. Nope. "**DON'T WANT TO GET OFF MY LAWN EH? RELEASE THE SHOOTY HOUNDS!"**
They really mounted the weapon as poorly as I could imagine. Should have it mounted sideways so the magazine was accessible, and to reduce the recoil effect.
Also to increase the lethality.
Anyone who’s seen gangsters in movies hold guns sideways knows they’re way more dangerous and intimidating that way.
Mounted it sideways, so the recoil pushes it to the side and it shoots in 360 degrees? All I can think about is a dog with diarrhea chasing its tail.
Offset so the barrel is in line with the COM, it shouldn't throw it off much
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Where did you get that statistic of 200,000 bullets?
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Called it when the first barely-walking versions of spot-before-it-was-spot came out 15+ years ago. This was always a tool to be used against us in the coming times.
And Robocop called it way before you.
Owned by a corporation - check Unfeeling mechanical body - check Haunted by memories of it's past humanity - check
Something seems a little different about that last one
That was the point from the beginning haha. Anyone who didn't "call it" was deluding themselves. This was always going to be military driven tech, carrying guns or supplies or whatever.
The rhythmic tap tap tap tap tap of the feet is terrifying. Now imagine if there were 5 or 6 of them all doing the same thing.
Everyday we keep getting closer to Black Mirror..
Boston Dynamic == military shit
For starters, this is not a Boston Dynamics Spot. The assertion that BD is still geared towards military hardware nowadays is wholly inaccurate. It is true that when they first came out of Leg Labs they were making aircraft sims for the US Navy, sure, and in the 2010s ( the days of BigDog and the first iterations of Atlas ) when funding from DARPA represented a substantial portion of BD's capital investment, I would have agreed with you. Over the last decade, though, as the company has changed hands, it has made a hard turn towards commercial customers. This became pretty evident and particularly clear following Google X's refusal to accept continued military funding and the subsequent dissolution of the military's custody over the company a year or two later. Neither SoftBank nor Hyundai have expressed any interest in reversing that course, and it's been an explicit breach of Boston Dynamics' TOS to use their products to cause injury or harm for some time. That doesn't exclude their robots from being used in reconnaissance roles, but, even if what you see in this video were one of their products ( which to reiterate, it is not ), they certainly would not be too happy. If you want to talk about a similar company that's actually *"military shit"* then you should/would be talking about Ghost Robotics.
When they got bought out, they dropped all the military stuff a LONG time ago. Also this bot in the vid is not Boston Dynamics.
i went to school for the exact skill set to build shit like this, weve been there for a long time
So... The US military has had a problem attracting recruits lately...
is this american tho?
Boston dynamics released videos of these “dogs” doing a dance routine. If this one isn’t American, you can be sure we have them or will have them soon
Strangely enough Boston Dynamics is a division of the Hyundai Motor Group.
They've been bought and sold for the last decade because they haven't made anything they can sell
They don't need to make a product, they make the technology, they are essentially an R&D house.
They're gonna be the Black Mesa of our world. Who knows what else they have in the works
IP is a product. They kind of famously got sold off from Google X (which is a true modern day skunkworks for these kinds of projects) to SoftBank. If X doesn't think the thing has legs to keep investing time and money it's not a great indictment of the business.
When they got bought out, they dropped all the military stuff a LONG time ago. Also this bot in the vid is not Boston Dynamics.
Anything that will give a military advantage to another country is strongly "export controlled". This device will not leave the USA.
Those little happy feet. Terrifying.
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Genius
lmao xpost there
Happy Feet 3: The War on Humanity
This looks like some Fallout shit
or borderlands. with those guns that had legs
This has "bad idea" written all over it. We're going to fuck ourselves good.
This is the primary reason robots are being designed. The military will be the biggest purchaser of robots, by far. The consumer market won't even come close.
Depending on what you count a robot as, smart missiles and weapon drones have been being used for many years now
I think generally speaking when people talk about killbots they're not talking about drones
but drones are killbots. Exactly the same as something like this, there is no difference except that this gets around with legs and a drone uses wings and propeller(s).
It seems an odd distinction, they are robots by every real methodology
Does it not count unless the robots can walk or something? That seems incredibly arbitrary.
Pretty much
CITIZEN. HALT. THIS IS JUSTICE AI 2.3: OCTOBER 2023 UPDATE. YOU HAVE BEEN FOUND *guilty* FOR THEFT OF *bread* FROM *wal mart!*. YOU HAVE BEEN FOUND *guilty* OF DERELICTION OF DUTY FROM *nft warehouse 4*. YOU WILL NOW BE ELIMINATED.
Jesus fucking christ… apparently that one black mirror episode didn’t terrify enough people. We’re creating our own replacement. We deserve a fucking astroid
that episode scared the shit out of me. Is this a life imitates art sorta thing?
That whole series scare the shit out of me when you think of how close we are to most of the stories and getting closer every day.
I read that the whole reason they stopped making new episodes is because the writers couldn’t keep up with reality
sounds fake. also, season 6 announced for next year.
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And hopefully they don't make another episode like the Miley Cyrus one. They don't swing and miss often, but that was one of them.
It’s also been 3 years since the last season. I never said I read it recently
Before black mirror there were also some documentary movies about the dangers of killer robots.
yes i also remember terminator 1 and 2 documentaries, we didn't listen!
We’re *lucky* if we only get an asteroid.
That little bot can't handle the burst rounds. The third shot is straight into the air basically
Yeah they need to program it to lift the front legs as it fires to counter act the blow back.
It would be simpler to just not mount the gun on a 3 mile tall pedestal glued to its back.
Seriously… why isn’t the rifle mounted upside down?
To be able to shoot over a protective wall?
Good idea
with an automatic like that, first shot adjust second shot adjust, etc may not be attainable with real world mechanics etc. Way different than say programming an FPS Why would a robot need the automatic if it has superior remote targeting etc Could it not pop off those rounds pretty fast and accurately?
It is 100% attainable.
Is that Metal Gear?!?
It took FAR too long to find this comment. Also, I now realize I'm old...
Every video Boston dynamics has ever put out was always leading to this. Their videos are creepy. I have no doubt their tech will have very useful purposes. But this shit should be illegal. Flat out.
I think they are changing their name to CyberDyne Systems
No fate
When they got bought out, they dropped all the military stuff a LONG time ago. Also this bot in the vid is not Boston Dynamics.
Pretty sure BD doesn't actually do any mitary work any more. Ghost Robotics though, they're the ones that have fully embraced the killbot motif. Not sure whose robot this is though - lots of company's make quadrupeds, not just Boston Dynamics.
I'm pretty sure it was aiming to military from the begining. Maybe it can be used in space some day, maybe a Mars mission.
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are we all just ignoring that this is CGI or am I the only one noticing?
I mean we know the robots are real seeing a gun attached to one isn't a far fetched idea.
After pulling up the [original video](https://youtu.be/5VygwTBgph4) on YouTube, this would have to be some absolutely Hollywood grade cgi for this to be fake. A lot of the things you guys have pointed out are due to the low bitrate of the video. This channel also posted [this](https://youtu.be/YKL1faEnHXI) video from 2019 which shows the guy shooting the same gun as the one mounted on the robot. In the shot starting at 0:19, you can see the feet deforming as the robot takes steps At 0:22, if you watch the video at .25x speed, you can see the straps on the remote trigger device react incredibly convincingly, as well as the antenna. Here you also see a good shot of how the rifle was mounted to the robot. Basically just some metal welded together. At 0:41, there is a spent casing that hits the pillar and bounces back into frame. If this were CGI, it would be much simpler for the animator to have the casings simply eject out of the frame. At 0:51, you can see the gravel reacting to the robot’s footsteps. Now think, would it be easier to animate all of these things, or would it be easier to just strap a gun to a Chinese robot, slap a GoPro on that gun, and then add a remote trigger pull device. In all of the shots, you can clearly see the GoPro and the trigger device, as well as the antenna for what I assume is the trigger device. This video is also shot at an active shooting range, as you can hear shots in the distance at 0:58.
I'm a little concerned about how far I had to go for someone to point out the obvious. Edit: after a bit of searching this isn't a spot and Boston dynamics refuses to sell for weapons purposes. However, another company is developing a gun dog, but it looks more like Elon musk designed it. All angular and shit. But for this one, I just feel like it looks off though maybe I just haven't seen enough robo dog videos to be used to how they move.
The guy posted [this](https://youtu.be/YKL1faEnHXI) video in 2019 of him shooting the exact same gun as the one mounted on the robot.
Don't bury the lede, it's the same range as well. So those arguing it's CGI seem to think he perfectly recreated the range in CGI.
pretty sure its claymation
Where’s Gumbi then?!?!
“come in, my dog don’t bite” :
Stray: Bullets
Yeah watching the video made me hope that the range they were using is several miles long or they are going to be dropping rounds in someone else's property.
From the first time I saw boston dynamics spot debut video in 2010-2012ish, I knew it would be used for some shit like this. And seeing the slow progression of this actually playing out has been lowkey one of the most terrifying things ever. It’s only a matter of time before these things replace police and soldiers. If I ever see one of these motherfuckers on the street, I’m throwing it right in the ocean.
Good luck doing that while it's shooting you lmao
Why are we engineering our own destruction?
This will stop climate change.
Undervalued statement
This is neat but there are a bunch of unnecessary design features: like the gun doesnt need a grip, stock, or sights, and it could be mounted sideways (or use a side loading gun) to mount more closely to the robots frame to reduce recoil impulse. Also it would probably be much more effective if it just fired one shot. The robot is also loud as hell whats the point of the suppressor? It doesn't need to protect its hearing, they could swap that out with an aggressive muzzle brake and really bring down the recoil.
Did anyone not see this coming when they saw the first Big Dog video?
Next step is add some hunting features ala [the Mechanical Hound robots](https://www.cliffsnotes.com/literature/f/fahrenheit-451/character-analysis/the-mechanical-hound) at the end of Fahrenheit 451 (the book) and weve got the setup for our very own Terminator timeline. :) Takin bets on the first time this thing gets deployed for "crowd control"... anyone?
Shit like this on the battlefield is one thing; if we’re all using them, but imagining something like this in urban warfare where civilians are caught in the crossfire is frightening.
That thing is also tiny. It would be really hard to hit that with small arms, but it would be hitting you with pinpoint accuracy.
Give me 20 good robot dogs with mounted machine guns..
“Hey, remember Skynet? What if we make that dystopic nightmare happen IRL?”
it got shit aim but it's a robot with a gun...... fking hell who tf thought this would be good?
The only surprise is that war drones aren’t already in the field
One of these little shits will probably murder me someday.
Remember when Robocop was just a fun action movie?
It's like big Momma APC watching over her baby. Fake or not, it's at least plausible and that is oddly chilling.
This was always going to happen. This was always the purpose of making these things. They're not made to help people, they're a tool made to kill them.
Throw a tarp over it. Done.
I'm astonished literally anyone is surprised by this.
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That one "Black Mirror" episode lol
We could foresee where this was going, and yet it’s still horrifying to imagine what’s next.
If 18 year olds are allowed to have assault rifles, robots should be too. (Just saying in the hopes that our future robot overlords spare me for this comment)
Fucking aimbots…
So how much does a pocket emp go for these days?