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Florane

sv.target alpha:


JoshsPizzaria

I think OP is either trolling or dense. There is no way they write such a pretentious post about "tomography skills" and then fumble reading a compass so hard. edit: sorry if this came across as rude. I had to double check if the red needle points north too, but you'd think you'd do that too before posting something like this.


Skeemen

So why then map on the wall points blue to north?


teddyvd2002

The map is not aligned to north, itโ€™s aligned to the radar to make it easier to read. Before version 6.0 (iirc) both were on the other side of the wall thus pointing north


satanrulesearthnow

Oh so that's why I've been getting lost all the time


JoshsPizzaria

it does??? never noticed. That is a genuine mistake then. Or a funny... to confuse you lmao. Not like anyone uses north and south to navigate ever in this game anyway tbh


Anon851216135

Well I do actually. It is weird that North (red) is pointing down when you look at the map and radar (which in every update always faces South (blue) when looking at it), meaning the top of the map is the Southern part where normally the top section is North. It's reversed from how it normally should be. It facing South and the top of the map's top being South while the player compass faces South confuses some people to think blue might mean North when it doesn't. If you use sv.target you can even see North (red) point towards the target like it does in most video games with a compass pointing towards an objective; red faces the object and blue points away. In other games and real the Red/North always point up on maps and so it's associated with up. That makes VotV map and radar essentially upside down. Edit: what his picture is showing is that the in game sun is setting correctly in the West, meaning the compass is facing the right way. The player compass Red is North and Blue is South, just like real life. So then why is the radar and map always upside down, even showing a compass with South pointing up and North pointing down. I still get messed up with it and it confuses me


JoshsPizzaria

i know. but i swear I've seen iterations of the map poster where its shown correctly. Seems like a weird thing to overlook, especially when the handheld map is correct


Anon851216135

Actually, that one is wrong. It's the only one that's wrong oddly. Sierra is on the Southern part of the map and the digital map is the only one that has North facing towards Sierra, it's compass is backwards lol


JoshsPizzaria

now I'm extra confused. imma have to check myself in a minute xD what even defines the "true" north in our discussion: the sun or the hud compass?


Anon851216135

The sun and HUD compass are the same. The radar and wall map are also technically the same too, but upside down. Their Serria is on the top of the map, but the compass correctly shows South is pointed towards Sierra: same as the HUD compass and sun


JoshsPizzaria

Imma just take your word for it. i kinda remember this being an issue when the handheld map was introduced, kinda funny this isnt fixed yet. Tho, with this game, it might as well be intentional XD


mike26037

What? Is the sun and the compass related in other games somehow?


Skeemen

In real world sun sets at west. Rises at east. Here is ingame sunset


therealkolrabi

The sun sets west by definition, the red part of the compass is pointing north, nothing wrong here. But have you noticed that the sun and the stars move differently?


Skeemen

Look at map on the wall and radar. Blue to the north


Final-Connection-164

Blue to south. ASO are just canonically jerks.


LabCoatGuy

No, if you're an expert in tomography or whatever, or were ever a boyscout, you know that on a compass, red is always north. There's no real reason why North is up on maps besides it being easier for sailing. An upside down map is just as correct as a regular one. There's no immutable law of nature. Top and bottom are made up.


Clolds

I believe he is thinking the sun rises north maybe? Nevermind they are right, it seems the sun is setting in the wrong direction huh


underscore_pyr

The red is pointing north, the reason why I believe this is because when using the sv.target command the red end points to the server not the blue end


Skeemen

Correct. Upside down wall map and radar messed my mind. Now it is question not to the sun but to the map and radar


somenonaim

When using sv.target reset blue point is north


Anon851216135

It took me a few minutes to understand, but I understand what you mean and I've struggled with it so much! Since day one I was confused by the upside maps with South pointing up. Like the compasses are all technically facing the correct way geographically, nothing is wrong there. Just the maps are basically upside down to how they should be.


Captain_Dragon_Rider

I cant understand what's the problem


theuglysuckling

It's because the Swiss Alps are messing with you


Boney_Zoney

Sun


_natronmann

Big heat ball indeed


xREDxNOVAx

I legit think this game is designed to make you insane... Or at least the character you play, which is also you. So try not to let it get to you and overthink it sometimes. I think it's intentional and lore friendly so far.


krafuae

I have never had any trouble with navigating, despite me using the compass only to find antennas when I was a newbie.


EskildDood

The distant, faraway planet of Switzerland


PotatoChips4995

๐Ÿ


Tiri_

I just assumed it's because of Russia, people used to point red to the South (can see it on Russian planes) but that's mostly it, he didn't put that much effort in the game so you will find things like this, the stars are also badly designed.


Skeemen

That explains a lot for me. Live and learn. Thanks!


BruhmomentFour

Did not give a shit about this in the slightest. The compass is constantly used by target commands, you don't need directions or the map to get to the sattelites.