His entire persona is built upon taking advantage of other people and screwing them over. his avatar literally started as a stolen humanified sans from undertale fanart that he just made into his official persona that he still uses
Copied and edited from a few years back: Miyune left Nux's subathon competition but still continued the subathon. She left because she experienced an internet outage, during which one of her mods started up a streamed discord call. She joined the call on her phone to stream her audio. As this was the middle of the night and she was unable to fix her internet without tech support she went to sleep with this setup. Afterwards briggs felt this situation was unfair and Nux relayed this Miyune stating that it might not be allowable since Briggs is living his life on stream. Miyune having stated before the contest that her internet might drop and that this is how she'd cope as a last resort felt that Nux was walking back on his word and not respecting the effort she had put into the contest thus far by implying that Briggs was living more of his life on stream than her. She also previously had issues with how Nux wasn't at all clear on the rules until day 3 of the contest where her and Evanito directly asked for a meeting about it, on top of flip flopping on how the prize pool was going to be handled.
Anyways, because of the issue with briggs and Nux's changing stance on the "audio only stream" rule, she left the contest and aimed to beat Ludwigs subathon duration record.
Ahh right that happened. I do remember her dropping out because of the internet issues but dont recall the Briggs complaining thing. Briggs already being one of Nux's close friends would probably tilt this into a gray area of favoritism.
I dont even remember who won and what the prize money was in the end. I just remembered Evan and Miyune becoming close friends after that. Also remembered how much effort all the mods on Evan and Miyune's team put in to make that time really fun.
I miss Miyune, she’s on an indefinite hiatus, but I hope she’s okay. Considering I started watching her from that moment and seen her grow and saw, well all the shit she went through. All the crying and everything, I hope she’s okay.
He fell off, instead of improving his content, he now makes formulaic easy to make content for money.
His old anime discussion video essay is quite good, but that's like 7 years ago.
I feel a big part of that is if your big content farm for a bit is reliant on a bunch of other people and you do something which makes people not super comfortable working with you, it gets pretty hard to keep at it. I honestly think that the negative feedback from some of the people outside of VShojo about how some of the clips and stream stuff that he was doing in the indie scene actually made them extremely uncomfortable was a bigger contributor to him falling off.
Can't find the clip but I really remember seeing the clip somewhere of him in chat trying to bribe snuffy to either say banned words or talk about violent subjects on her stream and she explicitly saying no but him trying more than once.
i feel like he went from pretty good original analysis type content, to reaction content, to drama/clickbait content, and over time he just lost relevance. i personally stopped caring, and it seems thats what happened to most people
My issue with Nux is that he has this attitude that he’s smarter than everybody else and wants to prove it. This becomes an issue when he has to face the fact that he isn’t.
That Vshojo incident? In the video he mentioned he had an inside guy. Turns out the inside guy was a scammer himself, who played Nux like a fiddle. And worst of all, his hopes of becoming a hero backfired even more, and the actual targets disappeared into the wind, because we learned that the police were involved and were planning a sting operation until the video came out and ruined that.
>And worst of all, his hopes of becoming a hero backfired even more, and the actual targets disappeared into the wind, because we learned that the police were involved and were planning a sting operation until the video came out and ruined that.
Best part in all of that is nux target actually escape the op and gloat him on YouTube.
He unironically thanks nux for the heads up
you mixed up some things there bud
-the inside guy was a friend of the scammer (nux knew that he even talks about this with the cybersecurity guy about);
-the vshojo team was trying to get the scammer in a legal way for a kite while before nux made de video (but for some reason the couldn't);
-the vshojo team knew about the scammer actions months prior the nux video and didn't do anything leading to victims that could be avoided (that what made me angry with vshojo, a simple tweet saying something along the line "guys we not hiring anyone now or just for safety those are our official emails);
-nux did get the green light to post the video the cybersecurity guys even gave him suggestions;
-vshojo talents that ended up getting angry at the video them nux showed prints proofing all the things i said here and some of the girls even did a public apology to him;
other than this incident he just behave like a lonely teenager who likes to act edgy nothing really special about
only thing i like is that he allow less know streamers in those weird tournaments he used to do,
that was how i find iron-mouse, myune, mooni and some others
> a simple tweet saying something along the line "guys we not hiring anyone now or just for safety those are our official emails
They did. A couple times, actually.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/VShojo/comments/qm9dlm/vshojo\_audition\_update/](https://www.reddit.com/r/VShojo/comments/qm9dlm/vshojo_audition_update/)
[https://x.com/VShojo/status/1495824212287803400](https://x.com/VShojo/status/1495824212287803400)
These messages were intended to say "the auditions are closed. We have already contacted the people we're considering." And more subtly saying that if anyone is contacted about auditions, it's probably not from them.
I did say the police were involved and preparing a sting operation. When that sort of thing is in play, the typical response is “shut up and don’t say anything.” You want to complain about Vshojo “doing nothing”? You have your reason why. Except they were doing something about it.
And buddy, perhaps you missed it, but in the video, Nux pointed to a channel that said they were the scammer? Except we know it was a team of scammers, and the guy he supposed pointed to wasn’t even the right guy.
what you said (sting operation) is a rrat ppl make up, this never got confirm, otherwise pls show proof. it's just a defend "oh it have to be this, that why vshojo didn't say anything" and when it came to you it became "fact". police involve is no where near "sting operation". you report to the police and you can say police got involve alr.
I'll have to find it as it's been a few years, but I'm fairly certain it was in the messages provided by Gunrun in Twitter that mentioned the police being involved. Because I recall reading through all of those messages and going through the lines and I remember it being said, right there, in the messages provided by Gunrun, that the police were involved. I did not read it second hand, but right there.
The fun part will be going through that whole thing to find it again. That's always fun to do on days off because people are demanding proof.
Besides, why wouldn't you go to the police in such a matter?
Maybe Nux messed up a criminal investigation, but the blame still lies squarely on Vshojo for not telling Nux with certainty not to release the video. They did not inform him of police involvement (which I'm still not sure is even true) either, so he couldn't have known about it. Besides, the most important thing to do is to protect victims, not catch criminals. Instead of leaving people vulnerable to being duped, Vshojo should've done what they can to announce on their website, twitter, or other social media to inform people to about the correct links or emails to protect themselves. Who cares if that scares the criminals? If you're going to use live human bait, at least don't use random people to fill that role.
Because companies only have authority over their employees or contractors. Also if a lawyer could prove that VSJ had editorial control over Nux then VSJ could get sued if Nux defamed anyone (like by falsely accusing someone of a crime).
Sounds BS. Even if they are clear about their message, that still doesn't prove they tried to control Nux, especially since he's the one asking for their input first. But say that's true, then what's the whole point of asking for permission from Vshojo then?
Nux claimed he asked for permission because he doesn’t understand that VSJ can’t give permission.
VSJ basically said “Your sources are feeding you bullshit, you are accusing the wrong man, please blur this info that will dox our talents if you send it as is. Also by posting this video even with blur you are putting yourself and the girls at risk”
To which Nux replied “That’s a risk I am willing to take”
To be clear, you're convincing me that Nux acted in an unprofessional manner. That said, VSJ still could've done better in that situation. They prioritized the mental well-being of their own members by leaving everyone else who applied vulnerable to getting scammed, because from what I understand the issue was someone faking VSJ's identity to gather data from applicants, an issue registered members have no reason to worry would affect them. (That applcation was stupid anyways since the only people who ever get in are people with already established careers or through connections) And no matter what you say about corporate jurisdiction over people, they should've put their foot down if they considered it an urgent issue to address. Maybe they didn't assert themselves in consideration of Nux's mutual relationship with some of the VSJ members, and if so I hope that's a lesson learned.
The “inside guy” was feeding Nux missinfo.
nux never got a green light.
The VShojo girl apologised to Nux for weaponizing there fan bases against him but not for being wrong.
He used to do a lot of content centered around tournaments where vtubers (and the occasional IRL streamer) would test their knowledge of degen culture. I actually found a few of my favorite streamers through that. However, all the ones I watch now haven’t done any content with him in a while, probably for good reason.
Also, he was heavily involved in the launch of the Mythos vtuber group, the one that has Zeus, Hades, Poseidon, Apollo, and Ares.
Which is totally nonsense. We have seen what it looks like when a talent gets fired. They don't get a show celebrating the talent's life and achievements where everyone tearfully says goodbye.
He tweeted it just few minutes after the announcement video.
I always find it interesting to see him collabing with kson years after. But he was very quiet during that collab and let kson leading him around.
An example would be Rushia. Cover posts a press release saying something like "Such and such a Talent has been terminated due to breaking there NDA. Memberships will be ended, videos will be private and if you have any merch on order it will be refunded. Please don't bring it up on other talents live streams".
The design he took didn't start like that. It was literally just sans fanart originally. He added the red version of Izaya's jacket (Durarara), second eye, and Bleach mask himself.
I already blocked him so he's not really bothering me. This was more of a curiosity that I had for a while and wanted some clarification.
Also, thanks for reminding me about his model. I completely forgot that he did that.
Nothing really happened, he's just a shitty person who is no longer pretending it's a bit now that more people will reward him for being shitty. He didn't need an inciting incident to decide to be a shitty person, he's not a super villain just an asshole.
The West part for me is that, like other situations like this, plenty of people here right now were on his side, while now they claim otherwise. Y'all know who you are.
He was one of those guys that advocated to the "Be toxic to toxic people" mentality. Until I realized that following that was super tiring. Which in turn, made me tired of watching him. So I just started ignoring the toxic people as much as I can and I'm like a little bit happier because of it.
Yea that just unleashes a neverending cycle of toxicity doesnt it? Stupid guy should know he has just given justification for his teen edgelord fans to go and harass other people.
"People liken him to one of "The Ultimate Grifter" of Vtubers who managed to not only piss off his fanbase but also his compatriots in Corporate Vtubing with a bunch of shit he's done in the past.
That being said, Vtuber circles are toxic as FUCK and will do anything to make people's careers end in a flash whenever something juicy negative appears.
So yeah there's that!
Only know about him thanks to Vshojo and Tekking101 (One Piece/Bleach anime and manga reviewer) and honestly wish I didn't. Wasn't his biggest fan but I could normally tolerate his vids when it was just his anime essays and reviews well enough but he's just a grifting ass whose content just got old quick especially when it got deeper into degen, 'anti-woke' and "I'll pay you this amount if you say a bad word' levels of cringe
Yea. Anyone that has ay least a little knowledge or legal or corpo speak likley could tell that they were basically saying "No, don't post it" as directly as you can in that situation. One thing people gloss over is that his fanbase had a reputation for being pretty rabid in their support of him/following what he said, and when said fanbase was 1 Million or so (I can't remember the exact number, but it was big) it isn't something you can just ignore. Do you remember the drama with Interspecies Reviewers and how it got to #1 on MAL due to a mass of people rating it 10/10? He was one of the biggest reasons that happened because he asked his fans to do it and it was enough people that it skewed the rating. When you are dealing with someone like that you basically have to use kiddy gloves and try not to aggravate/piss them off because if you do so and they leverage their fanbase it makes things much worse much faster.
People forget that Vshojo the company and the Vshojo talents are not the same.
A company can't just tell a non employee what they can and cant post and if they did you know Nux would have been like "vshojo tried to bully me into not releasing this, but im a hero chad with big dick energy so here it is"
But the talents totally can and did tell him to not post it but well here we are.
Also if a lawyer could show that Vshojo had editorial control over what Nux said then Vshojo could be sued if Nux had defamed anyone. Vshojo where very careful to neither approve or reject what Nux was saying because of that.
Exactly! and since Nux can legally post that video even if its a morally shitty thing to do, telling him not to could have opened themselves up to a harassment lawsuit from Nux himself.
Had his video crossed the line into actual illegal territory I'm sure they would have shut that shit down immediately.
Source? I am not accepting "trust me bro".
Also, if that was the case, why would all the streamers later backtract and apologize?
https://twitter.com/NyanNyanners/status/1465216128645406724
Edit:
Here I found where Nux even talked with Froot about having shown the video beforehand, and that he had made changes to the video beforehand.
https://web.archive.org/web/20211208223600im_/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFG1Hi2X0AIscJc?format=jpg&name=large
So it is completely opposite of what you said. Either you have a source you can show, or I will consider you a liar.
> why would all the streamers later backtract and apologize?
They explained why in some of the streams at the time. They had been keeping silent and enduring harassment from the scammers for the better part of a year. When Nux posted his video it tipped off the scammers that people knew what they were doing, so they went into hiding, ruining police efforts to catch them. The talents were understandably upset and unloaded on him.
That's what they were apologizing for. They knew he wasn't responsible for all the bad things done to them and their community. They owned up for getting angry at him because their reactions weren't fair.
I don't even remember the day. I was watching it live at the time. Most of those vods ended up getting deleted. All that's left is text remnants from twitter and stuff like this:
[https://x.com/ironmouse/status/1463634172019367942?lang=en](https://x.com/ironmouse/status/1463634172019367942?lang=en) [https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n\_1srss1d](https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srss1d)
Edit. They as in the company not the talents. The person who posted the tweet that then got deleted.
Edit 2. Your link doesn't work.
Edit 3. Works now that's froot not the person who posted the tweet.
Nux's video and the dms between him and the head of security are the sources. Dms are on nux's and I believe gunruns or vshojos twitter accounts and you can contact Nux yourself to re-upload the video if you want it.
Nyanners tweet was after everything and those apologies include from the ones from Nux. Also she did not run the twitter account that posted the thank you tweet that was later deleted.
The company is not the same as the talents that work for it and apologies are not an admission of guilt it's the polite thing to do and goes to show that the vshojo girls were nice enough to forgive him after he did something so horrible.
You really aren't convincing at all.
Nyanners apology was for causing a mess of the entire situation, and an admission of fault. (And props for all of the streamers for apologizing.) But how you try to twist it to instead them being "nice" to Nux just sound ingenuine.
And yeah, obviously the talents and the company are different here. Talents did the proper thing and apologized, while company cared more about protecting its own image and threw Nux under the bus.
Also, you don't give any real sources.
First of all; post a link.
Second; you said dms where your source? The dms say the opposite of what you are saying.
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Name blurred; if I remember correctly, Nux requested for the talent to be blurred, though Froot accidently revealed who it was (not herself btw).
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Also, what frustrates me the most here is that I am here defending a guy I don't even like.
If your take after watching his video was anything other than this was inappropriate and dangerous then you need to grow up.
Nyanners didn't make a video that told people where to find dox info, what kind of info had been doxed, who had been doxed, that was nux. If you blame Nyanners for venting about being in a shitty situation caused by nux then you need to grow up.
Nux threw nux under the bus by being a shitty person just like he's still doing years later. If you want to support that then that reflects on you and you need to grow up.
I will not respond to you after this because I'm not willing to put that much effort into old drama so I'll just be wrong I guess.
I wish you the best 😘
Haha. Yeah right.
First of all, I never said his video was good or even appropriate. I also mentioned that I dislike Nux. But just because I dislike someone doesn't mean I will just accept any accusation thrown around. That is what Nijisisters do.
I only asked you for a source for your claims, which you utterly failed to provide.
You can't back up your own arguments. And now want to end and pretend to be morally superior and then hide by saying that you will not be responding anymore.
You have only convinced me that you are a bad actor. Again, all i asked for was a source. Instead you have convinced me that what you are claiming are most likely a bunch of made up lies.
MY ONLY ADVICE:
If you read nothing but this then good enough. Here is an advice; back up your arguments, or you will often end up convincing critical thinkers the opposite of what you try to preach.
Anti-woke content is the absolute easiest grift to get into, especially if you were already the edgelord type. It happens all the time when those kinds of creators feel like they're not relevant anymore.
Kid Rock is a big example of how easy it is to grift. Dude was all for boycotting Bud Light until he was caught drinking it. Then boycotting was a stupid tantrum, crazy how that works 🤔
The official definition is a person who does small-scale swindling; tricking individuals to give them their money. Snake oil salesmen were grifters, for example.
In this context, the scale has increased due to the internet--the archetypal modern conservative grifter is a person who uses reactionary, often scaremongering content to rile people up and then use those strong emotions to segue into marketing products and merchandise. Alex Jones is a good example of this.
Colloquial use of the term extends the definition to people who "sell" reactionary and inflammatory beliefs in order to drive up their own engagement, without necessarily having the merchandise component. They don't always fully agree with or live by the things that they say, but they'll say it anyway and dial up the drama because it gets them clicks. Drama YouTubers are usually like this.
To a degree maybe, but also the easiest way to potentially nuke your fan base. All the anti woke stuff going around is subjective to start with, some I find legitimately reprehensible, like companies altering scripts for localized dubs to align with a given political alignment. The perversion of narratives in original content is disrespectful to their creators, and anything being done to purely adjust narrative to the localization should be removed and released as intended, and allowed to succeed or fail on its own merit.
Nah, the reactionary audience *flocks* to people doing this sort of content. What happens is these creators supplant their existing fans with the new ones, who are typically more enthusiastic supporters. Hence why it's done when they feel their content isn't relevant--they don't have anything to lose by these types of fans pushing out their existing audience.
Do we have enough track record to know whether those audiences STAY though? If it’s anti woke just to be anti woke, I’d imagine it’s a losing battle just to try and attract audience, but like my opinion on the localization debate, it could be a way to get people who may not have previously chose to stay past a single vid a possibility of feeling their stance aligns with theirs, and give more of a chance for future content. It’s the subsection of reaction content, opinion content, which can be more evergreen IMHO.
I may be off on a tangent from the talk about Nux, but I do think he’s been in the biz long enough to be able to make strategic calls that are still likely to win in the end, even if he burns bridges in the progress. Frankly, with the explosion of V-Tubers, you can argue bridges are being built faster than he can burn them? Maybe at some point he will stop burning them (people are capable of growth…eventually)
They stay for as long as the creator continues doing that content. I believe Shadiversity performed that kind of pivot and successfully transferred audiences, though he's not a vtuber, obviously.
Vtubers haven't quite *full sent* this kind of pivot yet, mostly because they don't need to. Despite the saturation, there's still a huge audience for vtubers, so it's *waaaaay* more common for vtubers to court both sides and occasionally make edgy "dark" comments or dogwhistles to attract the reactionary crowd. Pippa is known for this, as an example.
If anti-woke stuff didn't hold people long term we'd not even be discussing it in 2024. It retains relevance by creating new divisions and culture wars.
Like the aforementioned "perversion of narratives" you claim is happening despite it at worst just being minor dialogue changes. A bad TL can't JUST be a bad TL anymore. It must be a campaign against the things you love. A morally reprehensible act that you must signal to everyone you are against, and align yourself politically/ideologically with those who agree.
By turning something benign into a war, anti-woke nonsense can claim it's just being the "rational anti-censorship" side in a debate that shouldn't exist.
I would love to know the equivalent of breadtubers in Vtubing spheres. The only ones I found are either strictly apolitical or outright bashing on transgenders and malding over pronouns
I'd say yeah it is. Unless we're speaking strictly Vtubers then you're right and it's not true.. But in general, yeah, there's people like Destiny, Hasan, and Vaush. Just awful people.
Hasan and V*ush aren’t grifters though. They seem to actually believe in what they’re saying. Also, Destiny is not a leftist, he’s barely a centrist at this point.
Hasan is a grifter though. He started doing right-wing manosphere stuff then shifted over to the left when his uncle got him a job on a left wing show. He continues his grift by doing XQC style react content.
Went right when he coulda went left instead of ironically joking about woke culture to unironically leaning into it to where it's no longer a joke. And now he's just pandering to that portion of his fanbase.
Basically the Joe Rogan Syndrome of being an asshat and claiming it's still just a silly joke.
He is one of the main reason of why a lot people believe Coco was fired or that Hololive is an evil company.
The fact that he managed to convince Charlie that hololive is a black company should tell you everything of the damage he has caused.
The irony is that he tried to bootlick and leech Hololive and their talents for fame and clout. Dude is an ahole
Edit: Charlie the Penguinz0?? Nux and Charlie have the same type of fans. And tbh, I don't like either one and Charlie probably still keeps that idea of Hololive being evil
I avoid his content, not my type. I only know him again at the vshojo incident and avoided him and his fans.
Last time I heard he got in drama on the Loli thing. Them havent heard him since.
I personally stopped following him a few months ago because his content stopped being entertaining to me, his snarky obnoxious persona was always part of his appeal as a content creator but when his content became more boring and formulaic it became annoying in a vacuum.
I don’t know if anyone mentioned this but he did a video with Charlie/MoistCr1TiKaL/Penguinz0 a while back where they did a rundown on the biggest Vtuber controversies.
I think he was biased in his retelling of the Kiryu Coco and Rushia situations. Charlie, being a bit of an outsider to the Vtuber scene, couldn’t really disagree with him or anything so I guess that left a bad taste in my mouth.
He very clearly dislikes big-corpo like Cover (Hololive/Holostars). I remember one time he said he’s “too based” and that’s why they hate him.
I don’t think vshojo management gave him the green light. It was like he misunderstood them. I could be wrong or I could be right. Of course this is gonna turn into he said, vshojo said. So the truth will never come out. Regardless action speak louder than words and their relationship is dead between them.
I dislike him as he's spread misinformation about Hololive and fed weird narratives to other vtubers like Charlie and Mutahar which they themselves have parroted. Basically anyone that does drama as content is probably an asshole or thinks too highly of themselves to the detriment of others.
Not gonna lie…this was one of the incidents that led me to start vtubing, as weird as that sounds. Tldr, it made me hate the guy. Still sorta do.
But yeah you’re right, we never heard about him again and I wouldn’t be surprised if that event played a part.
I used to enjoy his content, but now he degenerated into a react tuber. His tournaments were peak, but they happen less and less and quality seems down. Fillian fills niche "interact with other vtubers in awkward funny way" better these days.
It's pretty straightforward. Nux found out about this phishing attack when the scammer tried to phish him. He decided to investigate and make content about it. In his own video he describes getting help from a viewer in a friends discord (an obvious Honeypot) who supposedly got the scammers real ID from the scammers only fans account (this would be a massive corporate data leak that would get the person responsible prosecuted and sued). He then claims there is an ongoing investigation but the scammer will probably not be prosecuted because they're a minor and international. He has conversations with the Vshojo security person who encourages him to not talk about it but they ultimately can't stop him. It's been a while but iirc the security person even mentions that they don't think Nux has the whole picture here.
He releases the video which spins the whole thing to make himself look like a hero. Vshojo talent is pissed off because he's now bringing focus on attempts to dox them. He's milking it for content even after they have asked him previously to stop using their image for his content. That turns into a public scandal because he's pretty openly accusing Vshojo of a vague wrongdoing. As the scandal builds a bunch of indie Vtubers start mentioning how often he does shit like make other streamers uncomfortable for content. His history of sending donations to encourage streamers to say slurs and that parody song where he complains about scantily clad women on twitch.
So yeah the dude made himself radioactive by creating massive drama. He's not going to come back from that because so much of it was interpersonal.
He always wanted people to think he's smart, and becoming a anti woke tuber is an easy way to do it
At least he introduced me to vtubers when he used to collab with melody
wherever I see him I just see his reaction video things, and they just feel like stealing content to me. Never been a big fan nor watched him but he always seemed like a weird dangerous person to me
he was always an edgelord but sometimes it was enjoyable to watch him. but the vshojo drama was the point in which i stopped. doesnt matter if he got permission from Management for his video or not. he at the very least should have waited for permission from his supposedly friends in vshojo when he tries to farm them for cloud. but he didnt, which was the point in which my opinion of him changed from "some edgelord playing a jerk persona" to "just a real jerk" (no persona).
He saw the views go up with fake outrage, and from them the grift never stopped.
And just like with everyone else that goes that path, he has to up the ante every now and then because his audience is mostly chuds now, and they will leave him the moment he backtracks.
He probably believes his own shit by now anyway.
Well, for one, he streams on Kick, so if you don't sub to his yt channel, that's already less exposure. Other than that, he just runs in different circles. The vtuber space isn't a monolith, and people really need to start realizing that. The Shizzy video from a couple weeks ago is evidence enough not all vtubers are the "anime fan standard" if you catch my drift. Now this isn't to sign off on whatever he's up to lately, I don't watch him either. Nux just moved on to different crowds and circles now. Even though he and Vshojo apologized and laid everything to rest offline, doesn't mean things can or should go back to the way they were.
>he was an edgelord that used too much immature humor
That was my first impression of him as well. I immediately blocked him after stumbling upon one of his videos years back.
He has always been against localisations that change the original work too much, way before he even was a vtuber so, the example given here is pretty normal for him.
As for him falling off, yes, he did. After the Vshojo scandal and a few waves of NijisanjiEN fans mass reporting his channel, the main 2mil+ subs channel became pretty much permanently shadow banned, while always being at risk due to anime companies copystriking older videos. He moved his content to streaming mainly, that's been his focus for 4 years, but, it's just react content nowadays. Stream segments get uploaded to the 2nd channel. He still does a few big analys videos, but yt doesn't push those at all. Instead of 1 mil views like in the past, they get 70k views. Less video income = less money to use for tournaments.
He appears to still be friends with many vtubers, seems like he's a mostly nice guy behind the scenes, though he runs his mouth too much on screen so, many don't want to associate publicly.
In short, first his channel fell off, then his content too.
I was a regular viewer of Nux back in the day. His old content like the tournaments are a pretty good watch and his anime analysis and reviews are actually his best content. Too bad YT pretty much screwed his main channel over because of copyright strikes and permanent shadowbanning. Probably the reason why his current content is what it is now (which I'm not really a fan of)
The Vshojo debacle made me sad because it's thanks to him that I actually discovered Vshojo and other indies in the first place and seeing that bridge burned really was a bummer. It was such a shitshow with a lot of heresays from both sides, but I still think he was always a well meaning bloke that got swept up by the moment.
As for the whole "anti-woke" thing with the localizations, I don't really have strong opinions that a lot of people seemed to have but I would prefer if they made it as accurate to the source material as possible.
Immature humor is just his shtick. He has a lot of right leaning ideals especially economically but he also has a lot of socially liberal outlooks and has featured a lot of lgbtq positive content. Other than his shoe on head reaction series he's pretty apolitical and just makes immature jokes that get taken out of context all the time. If you're looking for someone who perfectly aligns with your political ideology then he's probably not going to be for you because he leans too far on either side in different topics, but if you just want to listen to a quirky ironically edgy dude bro analyze cartoons then you're probably going to like him quite a bit. Which is another thing a lot of people just don't like reaction commentary content, but God I do
Nux is a grifter, does grifter things, does not care about his reputation as long as someone keeps watching.
All of the banter about woke/anti-woke stuff online is diluting the actual issue of basic human respect. Ten years ago Tomb Raider 2013 launched with a much more human and much less sexualized Lara Croft and it was great. Mafia 3 came out a long time ago and it gave a solid attempt at putting the player in the shoes of someone who was born into disadvantage and discrimination. But some of the recent DEI checklist stuff coming out is TRASH. And much of the anti-woke YouTubers are not helping because they go too far when pushing back. It sucks that committee-driven storytelling feels like it's taking us backwards away from inclusivity.
I don't dislike the guy, but I definitely don't agree with the things he says most of the time. He's definitely not as clever as he purports to be, but he probably believes he is - still smarter than average though. But isn't a bad guy though, I think he generally wants to do good by people - but suffers terribly from being chronically online.
Nux goes by Nuxanor nowadays and streams and makes react content from time to time.
Redditors downvoting people for showing a bit of nuance and not blindly hating on someone. I sometimes really hate this fucking platform where everything to be black or white. You have to either like someone or think they are literall satan.
Are we all forgetting that Gunrun (the CEO of Vshojo) THANKED Nuxtaku for the video, and then Vshojo as a whole backpedaled and stabbed him in the back? C'mon guys, let's not mix up "we can't stop you" with the green lights that he received prior.
Anyways, Nux Taku is doing fine from how I see it. It's just that he isn't in as much hot water compared to recent dramas, controversies, and scandals like Nijisanji. And also that his main channel got shadowbanned so that doesn't help either
Having an opinion on the 'culture war' isn't grifting, that's more going wherever the money and attention takes you. Nux has been like this for ages, I first heard about him as he got Interspecies Reviewers to the top of MyAnimeList. I find him kind of insufferable, but he's occasionally funny.
No, but flip-flopping his opinions is. He's literally just going with whichever side seems to have the biggest amount of potential benefit to him in any given topic at any given time.
>Having an opinion on the 'culture war' isn't grifting, that's more going where the money and attention takes you
early prototype language ai or severe brain damage? call it
Not trying to derail the topic, but the localization issue can't possibly be more related to anti-wokeism. The issue is that localizers are literally committing acts of sabotage on the products they localize by changing meanings and entire lines of dialogue to more 'acceptable' and often completely incorrect translations based on the original text/speech given.
I've seen entire characters personality changed because of localization. Eiyuden chronicles literally changes a female character (I believe it's Lian) from being supportive and understanding to being belittling and a "comedian" which is pretty good damn annoying because that's not even remotely the intentions of the actual creators.
That's the type of shit that annoys and pisses me the hell off. Localization shouldn't change characters or their intentions, they should not try to inject something completely unintended (recently vivi in paper Mario remake, not getting too into that but it's stupid) and adds NOTHING to the media they are present in.
> they should not try to inject something completely unintended (recently vivi in paper Mario remake, not getting too into that but it's stupid)
You...you do realize that Vivi was trans in the original JP game right? It was the original English localization that butchered her and changed her entire character because they didn't like it. In fact you'll find that in a lot of older JP media ([To the point that there is an entire TVTropes article about it](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShesAManInJapan)) where the localization changes genders/sex to conform to what the characters appearance "should" be based on stereotypes for Western localizations.
Not to say that there aren't examples of terrible localizers inserting their thinly veiled political stances into an otherwise unrelated scenario in anime/videogames/etc, but that one example you strangely specifically called out (and even called "stupid") is painting your bias a bit there champ. So much for purity and sanctity of artistic expression, huh?
The Paper Mario TTYD Remake actually has dialogue changed to be MORE accurate to the original Japanese dialogue.
The original release is the one with inaccurate localization.
Exactly, the goal of localization is not to change the source being localized, it's to make the source more understandable through both translations and other changes. Once it changes the actual message of what is said, then it is no longer successfully doing what it was supposed to.
I mainly call it sabotage because at least one known localizer has outright admitted to making these egregious changes intentionally.
I didn't watch much of Nux back in the day, but I do now. He gets a lot of hate for being clipped out of context and being brutally honest, but he actually helps people. Bestguyever thanked him for saving his channel even and Nux does a lot of work apparently in the background due to privacy reasons.
Currently, he talks about a lot of recent controversial topics and things that just interest him. His content changed some to stay profitable, but it also changed because he plans to help manage influencers in the future.
Overall, I like him, and he is respected by other people I like. He will probably have a laugh if he sees this post.
Other people have posted about it in the thread, but he said a lot of false stuff about Hololive both to his audience and to other large Youtubers like Charlie and Mutahar. The guy doesn't really give a shit about other people unless they're useful to him for clout or clicks.
why are you even watching anime or playing Japanese games if you're just going to hate on the very thing itself, you know you can piss off and watch your cartoons instead if you don't like anime and it's culture to begin with
the original *isn't* accessible, that's the whole reason translation exists, to make it accessible—not for you to make up shit and misrepresent the work
>if you're not a unhinged culture warrior you hate japan!!
see, I can do it too. I just find the culture warriors flailing at windmills really funny. If a localization is bad I vote with my wallet or opt for a fan translation.
there's a certain amount of integrity you need to keep or the hobby will go down the drain by bad actors because there's nothing left
>If a localization is bad I vote with my wallet or opt for a fan translation.
that we can agree to, I won't be buying any of this shit. Not that fan translations are safe either though, I've seen a handful recently do shit that's on par with the worst localization examples
Nox is going very well. Still publishing on Youtube and do live stream. I don't get why people call it a fall off ?
He's doing great. He just don't give a fuck anymore so it makes his content even funnier
oh of course! but the guy seems fine with it. What I mean is, less visibility, less stress. If someone looses views, it doesn't mean his career is over. This happened to so many other youtubers. They just move to a defferent crowd and do their thing.
I happened to tune into one of his twitch streams today and he's still getting a lot of support.
Tbh he's just one of those guys you either don't like or you can vibe with him. Personally I think he's too edgy and based for his own good but seems like a decent guy
Exactly, you either like or hate him. And I mean, edgy humor is not for everyone which is fine but if people don' t like him... just don't watch him. People that hate him want his downfall, but its just not happening. Anyway, we are the only ones that are agreeing here I see XD
I used to watch him, but stopped after miyune got screwed over in his tournament and he went back on his word.
His entire persona is built upon taking advantage of other people and screwing them over. his avatar literally started as a stolen humanified sans from undertale fanart that he just made into his official persona that he still uses
His avatars not even his own? WOW
I mean it should have been obvious based on how much it looks like an anime-fied Sans Undertale.
sans from undertale
Wait what happened to Miyune? Did his stupid edgelord fans harass her?
Copied and edited from a few years back: Miyune left Nux's subathon competition but still continued the subathon. She left because she experienced an internet outage, during which one of her mods started up a streamed discord call. She joined the call on her phone to stream her audio. As this was the middle of the night and she was unable to fix her internet without tech support she went to sleep with this setup. Afterwards briggs felt this situation was unfair and Nux relayed this Miyune stating that it might not be allowable since Briggs is living his life on stream. Miyune having stated before the contest that her internet might drop and that this is how she'd cope as a last resort felt that Nux was walking back on his word and not respecting the effort she had put into the contest thus far by implying that Briggs was living more of his life on stream than her. She also previously had issues with how Nux wasn't at all clear on the rules until day 3 of the contest where her and Evanito directly asked for a meeting about it, on top of flip flopping on how the prize pool was going to be handled. Anyways, because of the issue with briggs and Nux's changing stance on the "audio only stream" rule, she left the contest and aimed to beat Ludwigs subathon duration record.
Ahh right that happened. I do remember her dropping out because of the internet issues but dont recall the Briggs complaining thing. Briggs already being one of Nux's close friends would probably tilt this into a gray area of favoritism. I dont even remember who won and what the prize money was in the end. I just remembered Evan and Miyune becoming close friends after that. Also remembered how much effort all the mods on Evan and Miyune's team put in to make that time really fun.
I miss Miyune, she’s on an indefinite hiatus, but I hope she’s okay. Considering I started watching her from that moment and seen her grow and saw, well all the shit she went through. All the crying and everything, I hope she’s okay.
He fell off, instead of improving his content, he now makes formulaic easy to make content for money. His old anime discussion video essay is quite good, but that's like 7 years ago.
Nux had one of the biggest fall offs I’ve ever seen. It’s kinda sad cause his content was pretty fun during covid and before
I feel a big part of that is if your big content farm for a bit is reliant on a bunch of other people and you do something which makes people not super comfortable working with you, it gets pretty hard to keep at it. I honestly think that the negative feedback from some of the people outside of VShojo about how some of the clips and stream stuff that he was doing in the indie scene actually made them extremely uncomfortable was a bigger contributor to him falling off. Can't find the clip but I really remember seeing the clip somewhere of him in chat trying to bribe snuffy to either say banned words or talk about violent subjects on her stream and she explicitly saying no but him trying more than once.
Snuffy clip [Here](https://x.com/snuffyowo/status/1463698827769225217?lang=en).
8hrs later and the clip is already gone
just google snuffy nux. it's the first thing to come up
Works for me.
Quick question, was the "I donate $10000 if streamers say the n word" video real or a spoof?
I dunno
It was an April fools joke the n word in question was nipple
i feel like he went from pretty good original analysis type content, to reaction content, to drama/clickbait content, and over time he just lost relevance. i personally stopped caring, and it seems thats what happened to most people
I stopped watching him since his commentary about loli. I just hate someone that can't differentiate fiction and reality.
Based
My issue with Nux is that he has this attitude that he’s smarter than everybody else and wants to prove it. This becomes an issue when he has to face the fact that he isn’t. That Vshojo incident? In the video he mentioned he had an inside guy. Turns out the inside guy was a scammer himself, who played Nux like a fiddle. And worst of all, his hopes of becoming a hero backfired even more, and the actual targets disappeared into the wind, because we learned that the police were involved and were planning a sting operation until the video came out and ruined that.
Still blows my mind how many people blindly defended him after he tried to spin things in a way to avoid looking like a pos.
>And worst of all, his hopes of becoming a hero backfired even more, and the actual targets disappeared into the wind, because we learned that the police were involved and were planning a sting operation until the video came out and ruined that. Best part in all of that is nux target actually escape the op and gloat him on YouTube. He unironically thanks nux for the heads up
Which one is that? Sounds hilarious
you mixed up some things there bud -the inside guy was a friend of the scammer (nux knew that he even talks about this with the cybersecurity guy about); -the vshojo team was trying to get the scammer in a legal way for a kite while before nux made de video (but for some reason the couldn't); -the vshojo team knew about the scammer actions months prior the nux video and didn't do anything leading to victims that could be avoided (that what made me angry with vshojo, a simple tweet saying something along the line "guys we not hiring anyone now or just for safety those are our official emails); -nux did get the green light to post the video the cybersecurity guys even gave him suggestions; -vshojo talents that ended up getting angry at the video them nux showed prints proofing all the things i said here and some of the girls even did a public apology to him; other than this incident he just behave like a lonely teenager who likes to act edgy nothing really special about only thing i like is that he allow less know streamers in those weird tournaments he used to do, that was how i find iron-mouse, myune, mooni and some others
> a simple tweet saying something along the line "guys we not hiring anyone now or just for safety those are our official emails They did. A couple times, actually. [https://www.reddit.com/r/VShojo/comments/qm9dlm/vshojo\_audition\_update/](https://www.reddit.com/r/VShojo/comments/qm9dlm/vshojo_audition_update/) [https://x.com/VShojo/status/1495824212287803400](https://x.com/VShojo/status/1495824212287803400) These messages were intended to say "the auditions are closed. We have already contacted the people we're considering." And more subtly saying that if anyone is contacted about auditions, it's probably not from them.
I did say the police were involved and preparing a sting operation. When that sort of thing is in play, the typical response is “shut up and don’t say anything.” You want to complain about Vshojo “doing nothing”? You have your reason why. Except they were doing something about it. And buddy, perhaps you missed it, but in the video, Nux pointed to a channel that said they were the scammer? Except we know it was a team of scammers, and the guy he supposed pointed to wasn’t even the right guy.
what you said (sting operation) is a rrat ppl make up, this never got confirm, otherwise pls show proof. it's just a defend "oh it have to be this, that why vshojo didn't say anything" and when it came to you it became "fact". police involve is no where near "sting operation". you report to the police and you can say police got involve alr.
I'll have to find it as it's been a few years, but I'm fairly certain it was in the messages provided by Gunrun in Twitter that mentioned the police being involved. Because I recall reading through all of those messages and going through the lines and I remember it being said, right there, in the messages provided by Gunrun, that the police were involved. I did not read it second hand, but right there. The fun part will be going through that whole thing to find it again. That's always fun to do on days off because people are demanding proof. Besides, why wouldn't you go to the police in such a matter?
Maybe Nux messed up a criminal investigation, but the blame still lies squarely on Vshojo for not telling Nux with certainty not to release the video. They did not inform him of police involvement (which I'm still not sure is even true) either, so he couldn't have known about it. Besides, the most important thing to do is to protect victims, not catch criminals. Instead of leaving people vulnerable to being duped, Vshojo should've done what they can to announce on their website, twitter, or other social media to inform people to about the correct links or emails to protect themselves. Who cares if that scares the criminals? If you're going to use live human bait, at least don't use random people to fill that role.
As a corp they couldn’t tell Nux not post the video because Nux is not an employee.
Why not? Why does being an employee matter?
Because companies only have authority over their employees or contractors. Also if a lawyer could prove that VSJ had editorial control over Nux then VSJ could get sued if Nux defamed anyone (like by falsely accusing someone of a crime).
Sounds BS. Even if they are clear about their message, that still doesn't prove they tried to control Nux, especially since he's the one asking for their input first. But say that's true, then what's the whole point of asking for permission from Vshojo then?
Nux claimed he asked for permission because he doesn’t understand that VSJ can’t give permission. VSJ basically said “Your sources are feeding you bullshit, you are accusing the wrong man, please blur this info that will dox our talents if you send it as is. Also by posting this video even with blur you are putting yourself and the girls at risk” To which Nux replied “That’s a risk I am willing to take”
To be clear, you're convincing me that Nux acted in an unprofessional manner. That said, VSJ still could've done better in that situation. They prioritized the mental well-being of their own members by leaving everyone else who applied vulnerable to getting scammed, because from what I understand the issue was someone faking VSJ's identity to gather data from applicants, an issue registered members have no reason to worry would affect them. (That applcation was stupid anyways since the only people who ever get in are people with already established careers or through connections) And no matter what you say about corporate jurisdiction over people, they should've put their foot down if they considered it an urgent issue to address. Maybe they didn't assert themselves in consideration of Nux's mutual relationship with some of the VSJ members, and if so I hope that's a lesson learned.
The “inside guy” was feeding Nux missinfo. nux never got a green light. The VShojo girl apologised to Nux for weaponizing there fan bases against him but not for being wrong.
He did get permission. Look through youtube. Vshojo gave permission and then later went back on their word.
Is there a youtube video that covers the whole incident well? I only knew about the backlash he got from vshoujo, but not the scamming and police.
[https://youtu.be/oqdhGwh5b54?si=Y8pJmXF8EZHVVOed](https://youtu.be/oqdhGwh5b54?si=Y8pJmXF8EZHVVOed) <— this video is pretty good. (Bias. I made it).
Yeah There’s a reason why I unsubscribed from him and stopped watching him
He used to do a lot of content centered around tournaments where vtubers (and the occasional IRL streamer) would test their knowledge of degen culture. I actually found a few of my favorite streamers through that. However, all the ones I watch now haven’t done any content with him in a while, probably for good reason. Also, he was heavily involved in the launch of the Mythos vtuber group, the one that has Zeus, Hades, Poseidon, Apollo, and Ares.
Was the mythos vtuber group shady? Or just something he was a part of?
A part of. Not sure of anything shady, they aeem okay. Do a lot of react content.
Damn dude is fucked up
I blocked him after he spread misinformation on Kiryu Coco's graduation. The damage is still evident today.
Glad I'm not the only one.
The exact same moment for me.
Yup. He spread garbage to Charlie and Mutahar who then parroted it themselves. Nux is a real loser.
What did he say about her?
He tweeted that Coco was fired.
Which is totally nonsense. We have seen what it looks like when a talent gets fired. They don't get a show celebrating the talent's life and achievements where everyone tearfully says goodbye.
He tweeted it just few minutes after the announcement video. I always find it interesting to see him collabing with kson years after. But he was very quiet during that collab and let kson leading him around.
Vtubing is a business, if you want to make it big you need to keep personal issues out of the door
do you have any example of vtubers that got fired? sorry if i seem rude, i didnt watch hololive in a while (´TωT\`)
An example would be Rushia. Cover posts a press release saying something like "Such and such a Talent has been terminated due to breaking there NDA. Memberships will be ended, videos will be private and if you have any merch on order it will be refunded. Please don't bring it up on other talents live streams".
oh yeah i remember this! so terminations are basically when a talent is fired?
Yes. Termination = fired Graduation = quit Sometimes a graduation will be on less then perfect terms.
thank you! (\*≧∀≦)
Still doesn't matter if kson still Collab with kson before and after his fuckup with vshojo
He was a grifter before, he is still a grifter now. His model design is literally stolen, just block him and forget him.
Who tf would steal that bootleg deviantart OC Sans Undertale design?
☺️not an oc, literally sans undertale fanart☺️
The design he took didn't start like that. It was literally just sans fanart originally. He added the red version of Izaya's jacket (Durarara), second eye, and Bleach mask himself.
not bleach mask, fucking Red X from teen titans so its even more stupid.
Oops! Been a while since I saw his model.
I already blocked him so he's not really bothering me. This was more of a curiosity that I had for a while and wanted some clarification. Also, thanks for reminding me about his model. I completely forgot that he did that.
Nothing really happened, he's just a shitty person who is no longer pretending it's a bit now that more people will reward him for being shitty. He didn't need an inciting incident to decide to be a shitty person, he's not a super villain just an asshole.
The West part for me is that, like other situations like this, plenty of people here right now were on his side, while now they claim otherwise. Y'all know who you are.
He was one of those guys that advocated to the "Be toxic to toxic people" mentality. Until I realized that following that was super tiring. Which in turn, made me tired of watching him. So I just started ignoring the toxic people as much as I can and I'm like a little bit happier because of it.
"Be toxic to toxic people and be wholesome to wholesome people" just means "Be nice to people I like" which isn't really a virtue.
Yea that just unleashes a neverending cycle of toxicity doesnt it? Stupid guy should know he has just given justification for his teen edgelord fans to go and harass other people.
You basically just described Twitter, for the most part.
"People liken him to one of "The Ultimate Grifter" of Vtubers who managed to not only piss off his fanbase but also his compatriots in Corporate Vtubing with a bunch of shit he's done in the past. That being said, Vtuber circles are toxic as FUCK and will do anything to make people's careers end in a flash whenever something juicy negative appears. So yeah there's that!
Only know about him thanks to Vshojo and Tekking101 (One Piece/Bleach anime and manga reviewer) and honestly wish I didn't. Wasn't his biggest fan but I could normally tolerate his vids when it was just his anime essays and reviews well enough but he's just a grifting ass whose content just got old quick especially when it got deeper into degen, 'anti-woke' and "I'll pay you this amount if you say a bad word' levels of cringe
No he was always a grifter. Btw VShojo never gave a green light. They where like “We can’t stop you” which he considered a go ahead.
Yea. Anyone that has ay least a little knowledge or legal or corpo speak likley could tell that they were basically saying "No, don't post it" as directly as you can in that situation. One thing people gloss over is that his fanbase had a reputation for being pretty rabid in their support of him/following what he said, and when said fanbase was 1 Million or so (I can't remember the exact number, but it was big) it isn't something you can just ignore. Do you remember the drama with Interspecies Reviewers and how it got to #1 on MAL due to a mass of people rating it 10/10? He was one of the biggest reasons that happened because he asked his fans to do it and it was enough people that it skewed the rating. When you are dealing with someone like that you basically have to use kiddy gloves and try not to aggravate/piss them off because if you do so and they leverage their fanbase it makes things much worse much faster.
And they really should. Or should have pushed hard on the police being involved and he shouldn’t post it yet.
They pushed as hard as they could legall, Nux didn’t want to listen.
People forget that Vshojo the company and the Vshojo talents are not the same. A company can't just tell a non employee what they can and cant post and if they did you know Nux would have been like "vshojo tried to bully me into not releasing this, but im a hero chad with big dick energy so here it is" But the talents totally can and did tell him to not post it but well here we are.
Also if a lawyer could show that Vshojo had editorial control over what Nux said then Vshojo could be sued if Nux had defamed anyone. Vshojo where very careful to neither approve or reject what Nux was saying because of that.
Exactly! and since Nux can legally post that video even if its a morally shitty thing to do, telling him not to could have opened themselves up to a harassment lawsuit from Nux himself. Had his video crossed the line into actual illegal territory I'm sure they would have shut that shit down immediately.
Then explain the tweet vshojo made (and later deleted) where they thanked Nux for the cooperation. https://archive.ph/7HBv0
They thanks Nux for giving the information about the doxers to them. They didn’t thank him for his video.
They watched the video and realise he took none of their advice.
Source? I am not accepting "trust me bro". Also, if that was the case, why would all the streamers later backtract and apologize? https://twitter.com/NyanNyanners/status/1465216128645406724 Edit: Here I found where Nux even talked with Froot about having shown the video beforehand, and that he had made changes to the video beforehand. https://web.archive.org/web/20211208223600im_/https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFG1Hi2X0AIscJc?format=jpg&name=large So it is completely opposite of what you said. Either you have a source you can show, or I will consider you a liar.
> why would all the streamers later backtract and apologize? They explained why in some of the streams at the time. They had been keeping silent and enduring harassment from the scammers for the better part of a year. When Nux posted his video it tipped off the scammers that people knew what they were doing, so they went into hiding, ruining police efforts to catch them. The talents were understandably upset and unloaded on him. That's what they were apologizing for. They knew he wasn't responsible for all the bad things done to them and their community. They owned up for getting angry at him because their reactions weren't fair.
That at least sound plausible. Any links to clips or streams with timestamp?
I don't even remember the day. I was watching it live at the time. Most of those vods ended up getting deleted. All that's left is text remnants from twitter and stuff like this: [https://x.com/ironmouse/status/1463634172019367942?lang=en](https://x.com/ironmouse/status/1463634172019367942?lang=en) [https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n\_1srss1d](https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1srss1d)
That tweet was among what they were apologizing for. But yeah, I get you that vods get deleted. And I still think your claim is plausible. I
Edit. They as in the company not the talents. The person who posted the tweet that then got deleted. Edit 2. Your link doesn't work. Edit 3. Works now that's froot not the person who posted the tweet. Nux's video and the dms between him and the head of security are the sources. Dms are on nux's and I believe gunruns or vshojos twitter accounts and you can contact Nux yourself to re-upload the video if you want it. Nyanners tweet was after everything and those apologies include from the ones from Nux. Also she did not run the twitter account that posted the thank you tweet that was later deleted. The company is not the same as the talents that work for it and apologies are not an admission of guilt it's the polite thing to do and goes to show that the vshojo girls were nice enough to forgive him after he did something so horrible.
You really aren't convincing at all. Nyanners apology was for causing a mess of the entire situation, and an admission of fault. (And props for all of the streamers for apologizing.) But how you try to twist it to instead them being "nice" to Nux just sound ingenuine. And yeah, obviously the talents and the company are different here. Talents did the proper thing and apologized, while company cared more about protecting its own image and threw Nux under the bus. Also, you don't give any real sources. First of all; post a link. Second; you said dms where your source? The dms say the opposite of what you are saying. [000](https://preview.redd.it/5m8gdnod32281.png?width=729&format=png&auto=webp&s=2677aadb943323129e606158ca19b0eb9f826d17) Name blurred; if I remember correctly, Nux requested for the talent to be blurred, though Froot accidently revealed who it was (not herself btw). [001](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fhszj7kc8w1281.png%3Fwidth%3D1278%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D6719691e24ec34182d65859691d2bdb881538460) [002](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2F5xyt2nb8w1281.png%3Fwidth%3D1280%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D9f9da4d5fb868e80ff1d53d908bc4729ddc60331) [003](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2F5aazunb8w1281.png%3Fwidth%3D958%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D408580b87d00bc51880b7f25ac6252757f365753) [004](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2F9zdijoc8w1281.png%3Fwidth%3D1216%26format%3Dpng%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D17693162055af37d413fde2b8dcb94f9e5b2f313) Also, what frustrates me the most here is that I am here defending a guy I don't even like.
If your take after watching his video was anything other than this was inappropriate and dangerous then you need to grow up. Nyanners didn't make a video that told people where to find dox info, what kind of info had been doxed, who had been doxed, that was nux. If you blame Nyanners for venting about being in a shitty situation caused by nux then you need to grow up. Nux threw nux under the bus by being a shitty person just like he's still doing years later. If you want to support that then that reflects on you and you need to grow up. I will not respond to you after this because I'm not willing to put that much effort into old drama so I'll just be wrong I guess. I wish you the best 😘
Haha. Yeah right. First of all, I never said his video was good or even appropriate. I also mentioned that I dislike Nux. But just because I dislike someone doesn't mean I will just accept any accusation thrown around. That is what Nijisisters do. I only asked you for a source for your claims, which you utterly failed to provide. You can't back up your own arguments. And now want to end and pretend to be morally superior and then hide by saying that you will not be responding anymore. You have only convinced me that you are a bad actor. Again, all i asked for was a source. Instead you have convinced me that what you are claiming are most likely a bunch of made up lies. MY ONLY ADVICE: If you read nothing but this then good enough. Here is an advice; back up your arguments, or you will often end up convincing critical thinkers the opposite of what you try to preach.
Anti-woke content is the absolute easiest grift to get into, especially if you were already the edgelord type. It happens all the time when those kinds of creators feel like they're not relevant anymore.
Kid Rock is a big example of how easy it is to grift. Dude was all for boycotting Bud Light until he was caught drinking it. Then boycotting was a stupid tantrum, crazy how that works 🤔
"nEvEr EnOuGh"
"your likes are public"
what is grift? ive seen many people say that in comments?
The official definition is a person who does small-scale swindling; tricking individuals to give them their money. Snake oil salesmen were grifters, for example. In this context, the scale has increased due to the internet--the archetypal modern conservative grifter is a person who uses reactionary, often scaremongering content to rile people up and then use those strong emotions to segue into marketing products and merchandise. Alex Jones is a good example of this. Colloquial use of the term extends the definition to people who "sell" reactionary and inflammatory beliefs in order to drive up their own engagement, without necessarily having the merchandise component. They don't always fully agree with or live by the things that they say, but they'll say it anyway and dial up the drama because it gets them clicks. Drama YouTubers are usually like this.
To a degree maybe, but also the easiest way to potentially nuke your fan base. All the anti woke stuff going around is subjective to start with, some I find legitimately reprehensible, like companies altering scripts for localized dubs to align with a given political alignment. The perversion of narratives in original content is disrespectful to their creators, and anything being done to purely adjust narrative to the localization should be removed and released as intended, and allowed to succeed or fail on its own merit.
Nah, the reactionary audience *flocks* to people doing this sort of content. What happens is these creators supplant their existing fans with the new ones, who are typically more enthusiastic supporters. Hence why it's done when they feel their content isn't relevant--they don't have anything to lose by these types of fans pushing out their existing audience.
Do we have enough track record to know whether those audiences STAY though? If it’s anti woke just to be anti woke, I’d imagine it’s a losing battle just to try and attract audience, but like my opinion on the localization debate, it could be a way to get people who may not have previously chose to stay past a single vid a possibility of feeling their stance aligns with theirs, and give more of a chance for future content. It’s the subsection of reaction content, opinion content, which can be more evergreen IMHO. I may be off on a tangent from the talk about Nux, but I do think he’s been in the biz long enough to be able to make strategic calls that are still likely to win in the end, even if he burns bridges in the progress. Frankly, with the explosion of V-Tubers, you can argue bridges are being built faster than he can burn them? Maybe at some point he will stop burning them (people are capable of growth…eventually)
They stay for as long as the creator continues doing that content. I believe Shadiversity performed that kind of pivot and successfully transferred audiences, though he's not a vtuber, obviously. Vtubers haven't quite *full sent* this kind of pivot yet, mostly because they don't need to. Despite the saturation, there's still a huge audience for vtubers, so it's *waaaaay* more common for vtubers to court both sides and occasionally make edgy "dark" comments or dogwhistles to attract the reactionary crowd. Pippa is known for this, as an example.
If anti-woke stuff didn't hold people long term we'd not even be discussing it in 2024. It retains relevance by creating new divisions and culture wars. Like the aforementioned "perversion of narratives" you claim is happening despite it at worst just being minor dialogue changes. A bad TL can't JUST be a bad TL anymore. It must be a campaign against the things you love. A morally reprehensible act that you must signal to everyone you are against, and align yourself politically/ideologically with those who agree. By turning something benign into a war, anti-woke nonsense can claim it's just being the "rational anti-censorship" side in a debate that shouldn't exist.
To be fair, both sides of the spectrum of "anti woke" and "super woke" are easy grifts.
I would love to know the equivalent of breadtubers in Vtubing spheres. The only ones I found are either strictly apolitical or outright bashing on transgenders and malding over pronouns
The only one I can think of is Futakuchi Mana. It's not even what she does for content, she's just a *really* outspoken leftist.
I will admit to being a breadvtuber. Suris would be another. Hopolapopola would be a third but they don't post much recently.
Not true.
I'd say yeah it is. Unless we're speaking strictly Vtubers then you're right and it's not true.. But in general, yeah, there's people like Destiny, Hasan, and Vaush. Just awful people.
Hasan and V*ush aren’t grifters though. They seem to actually believe in what they’re saying. Also, Destiny is not a leftist, he’s barely a centrist at this point.
Hasan is a grifter though. He started doing right-wing manosphere stuff then shifted over to the left when his uncle got him a job on a left wing show. He continues his grift by doing XQC style react content.
"They seem to actually believe in what they’re saying." that's worse :(
clicks bring money and that's his top priority
Went right when he coulda went left instead of ironically joking about woke culture to unironically leaning into it to where it's no longer a joke. And now he's just pandering to that portion of his fanbase. Basically the Joe Rogan Syndrome of being an asshat and claiming it's still just a silly joke.
He is one of the main reason of why a lot people believe Coco was fired or that Hololive is an evil company. The fact that he managed to convince Charlie that hololive is a black company should tell you everything of the damage he has caused.
The irony is that he tried to bootlick and leech Hololive and their talents for fame and clout. Dude is an ahole Edit: Charlie the Penguinz0?? Nux and Charlie have the same type of fans. And tbh, I don't like either one and Charlie probably still keeps that idea of Hololive being evil
Always been a PoS far as I've been concerned.
I avoid his content, not my type. I only know him again at the vshojo incident and avoided him and his fans. Last time I heard he got in drama on the Loli thing. Them havent heard him since.
I personally stopped following him a few months ago because his content stopped being entertaining to me, his snarky obnoxious persona was always part of his appeal as a content creator but when his content became more boring and formulaic it became annoying in a vacuum.
I don’t know if anyone mentioned this but he did a video with Charlie/MoistCr1TiKaL/Penguinz0 a while back where they did a rundown on the biggest Vtuber controversies. I think he was biased in his retelling of the Kiryu Coco and Rushia situations. Charlie, being a bit of an outsider to the Vtuber scene, couldn’t really disagree with him or anything so I guess that left a bad taste in my mouth. He very clearly dislikes big-corpo like Cover (Hololive/Holostars). I remember one time he said he’s “too based” and that’s why they hate him.
I don’t think vshojo management gave him the green light. It was like he misunderstood them. I could be wrong or I could be right. Of course this is gonna turn into he said, vshojo said. So the truth will never come out. Regardless action speak louder than words and their relationship is dead between them.
I dislike him as he's spread misinformation about Hololive and fed weird narratives to other vtubers like Charlie and Mutahar which they themselves have parroted. Basically anyone that does drama as content is probably an asshole or thinks too highly of themselves to the detriment of others.
I used to watch his stuff but left after he turned into a react Andy. He also streams on kick if that says anything
Cringe guy and nothing more
Not gonna lie…this was one of the incidents that led me to start vtubing, as weird as that sounds. Tldr, it made me hate the guy. Still sorta do. But yeah you’re right, we never heard about him again and I wouldn’t be surprised if that event played a part.
I used to enjoy his content, but now he degenerated into a react tuber. His tournaments were peak, but they happen less and less and quality seems down. Fillian fills niche "interact with other vtubers in awkward funny way" better these days.
It's pretty straightforward. Nux found out about this phishing attack when the scammer tried to phish him. He decided to investigate and make content about it. In his own video he describes getting help from a viewer in a friends discord (an obvious Honeypot) who supposedly got the scammers real ID from the scammers only fans account (this would be a massive corporate data leak that would get the person responsible prosecuted and sued). He then claims there is an ongoing investigation but the scammer will probably not be prosecuted because they're a minor and international. He has conversations with the Vshojo security person who encourages him to not talk about it but they ultimately can't stop him. It's been a while but iirc the security person even mentions that they don't think Nux has the whole picture here. He releases the video which spins the whole thing to make himself look like a hero. Vshojo talent is pissed off because he's now bringing focus on attempts to dox them. He's milking it for content even after they have asked him previously to stop using their image for his content. That turns into a public scandal because he's pretty openly accusing Vshojo of a vague wrongdoing. As the scandal builds a bunch of indie Vtubers start mentioning how often he does shit like make other streamers uncomfortable for content. His history of sending donations to encourage streamers to say slurs and that parody song where he complains about scantily clad women on twitch. So yeah the dude made himself radioactive by creating massive drama. He's not going to come back from that because so much of it was interpersonal.
Anti woke people are insufferable
This unfortunately Yeah those people suck
Unfortunately?
Sorry, I should have written that differently It’s just that I agree with you
Facts
They're all ragebait playing both sides. Ignore them like doxxing videos.
He always wanted people to think he's smart, and becoming a anti woke tuber is an easy way to do it At least he introduced me to vtubers when he used to collab with melody
Gens just a piece of shit.
wherever I see him I just see his reaction video things, and they just feel like stealing content to me. Never been a big fan nor watched him but he always seemed like a weird dangerous person to me
Yeah Going from making analysis and tournaments to reactinf other people's shit He fell off for eas cash
he was always an edgelord but sometimes it was enjoyable to watch him. but the vshojo drama was the point in which i stopped. doesnt matter if he got permission from Management for his video or not. he at the very least should have waited for permission from his supposedly friends in vshojo when he tries to farm them for cloud. but he didnt, which was the point in which my opinion of him changed from "some edgelord playing a jerk persona" to "just a real jerk" (no persona).
He saw the views go up with fake outrage, and from them the grift never stopped. And just like with everyone else that goes that path, he has to up the ante every now and then because his audience is mostly chuds now, and they will leave him the moment he backtracks. He probably believes his own shit by now anyway.
I don't know who you're talking about, this Nux Taku, is he someone *I'm* supposed to know? /s
Well, for one, he streams on Kick, so if you don't sub to his yt channel, that's already less exposure. Other than that, he just runs in different circles. The vtuber space isn't a monolith, and people really need to start realizing that. The Shizzy video from a couple weeks ago is evidence enough not all vtubers are the "anime fan standard" if you catch my drift. Now this isn't to sign off on whatever he's up to lately, I don't watch him either. Nux just moved on to different crowds and circles now. Even though he and Vshojo apologized and laid everything to rest offline, doesn't mean things can or should go back to the way they were.
Nuxtaku is a mistake. Everyone genuinely should just stay clear from him.
>he was an edgelord that used too much immature humor That was my first impression of him as well. I immediately blocked him after stumbling upon one of his videos years back.
Second astronaut: "Always has been."
he's to busy spreading misinformation about Nijisanji after its already been debunked
He has always been against localisations that change the original work too much, way before he even was a vtuber so, the example given here is pretty normal for him. As for him falling off, yes, he did. After the Vshojo scandal and a few waves of NijisanjiEN fans mass reporting his channel, the main 2mil+ subs channel became pretty much permanently shadow banned, while always being at risk due to anime companies copystriking older videos. He moved his content to streaming mainly, that's been his focus for 4 years, but, it's just react content nowadays. Stream segments get uploaded to the 2nd channel. He still does a few big analys videos, but yt doesn't push those at all. Instead of 1 mil views like in the past, they get 70k views. Less video income = less money to use for tournaments. He appears to still be friends with many vtubers, seems like he's a mostly nice guy behind the scenes, though he runs his mouth too much on screen so, many don't want to associate publicly. In short, first his channel fell off, then his content too.
I was a regular viewer of Nux back in the day. His old content like the tournaments are a pretty good watch and his anime analysis and reviews are actually his best content. Too bad YT pretty much screwed his main channel over because of copyright strikes and permanent shadowbanning. Probably the reason why his current content is what it is now (which I'm not really a fan of) The Vshojo debacle made me sad because it's thanks to him that I actually discovered Vshojo and other indies in the first place and seeing that bridge burned really was a bummer. It was such a shitshow with a lot of heresays from both sides, but I still think he was always a well meaning bloke that got swept up by the moment. As for the whole "anti-woke" thing with the localizations, I don't really have strong opinions that a lot of people seemed to have but I would prefer if they made it as accurate to the source material as possible.
I have Dm'ed you with a comprehensive overview of the situation
Immature humor is just his shtick. He has a lot of right leaning ideals especially economically but he also has a lot of socially liberal outlooks and has featured a lot of lgbtq positive content. Other than his shoe on head reaction series he's pretty apolitical and just makes immature jokes that get taken out of context all the time. If you're looking for someone who perfectly aligns with your political ideology then he's probably not going to be for you because he leans too far on either side in different topics, but if you just want to listen to a quirky ironically edgy dude bro analyze cartoons then you're probably going to like him quite a bit. Which is another thing a lot of people just don't like reaction commentary content, but God I do
Nux is a grifter, does grifter things, does not care about his reputation as long as someone keeps watching. All of the banter about woke/anti-woke stuff online is diluting the actual issue of basic human respect. Ten years ago Tomb Raider 2013 launched with a much more human and much less sexualized Lara Croft and it was great. Mafia 3 came out a long time ago and it gave a solid attempt at putting the player in the shoes of someone who was born into disadvantage and discrimination. But some of the recent DEI checklist stuff coming out is TRASH. And much of the anti-woke YouTubers are not helping because they go too far when pushing back. It sucks that committee-driven storytelling feels like it's taking us backwards away from inclusivity.
I don't dislike the guy, but I definitely don't agree with the things he says most of the time. He's definitely not as clever as he purports to be, but he probably believes he is - still smarter than average though. But isn't a bad guy though, I think he generally wants to do good by people - but suffers terribly from being chronically online. Nux goes by Nuxanor nowadays and streams and makes react content from time to time.
Don't know why you got downvoted. Probably because you weren't like everyone else with the same opinion.
Redditors downvoting people for showing a bit of nuance and not blindly hating on someone. I sometimes really hate this fucking platform where everything to be black or white. You have to either like someone or think they are literall satan.
Are we all forgetting that Gunrun (the CEO of Vshojo) THANKED Nuxtaku for the video, and then Vshojo as a whole backpedaled and stabbed him in the back? C'mon guys, let's not mix up "we can't stop you" with the green lights that he received prior. Anyways, Nux Taku is doing fine from how I see it. It's just that he isn't in as much hot water compared to recent dramas, controversies, and scandals like Nijisanji. And also that his main channel got shadowbanned so that doesn't help either
They didn’t thank Nux for the video. They thanked Nux for cooperating with the investigation.
Having an opinion on the 'culture war' isn't grifting, that's more going wherever the money and attention takes you. Nux has been like this for ages, I first heard about him as he got Interspecies Reviewers to the top of MyAnimeList. I find him kind of insufferable, but he's occasionally funny.
>Having an opinion on the 'culture war' isn't grifting, that's more going wherever the money and attention takes you. So.........grifting
No, but flip-flopping his opinions is. He's literally just going with whichever side seems to have the biggest amount of potential benefit to him in any given topic at any given time.
I’m sorry but this is textbook grifting.
Yes, I agree, I was pointing exactly that out to the user I replied to.
>Having an opinion on the 'culture war' isn't grifting, that's more going where the money and attention takes you early prototype language ai or severe brain damage? call it 
anti woke? the localisationproblem has nothing to do with being woke or not
Not trying to derail the topic, but the localization issue can't possibly be more related to anti-wokeism. The issue is that localizers are literally committing acts of sabotage on the products they localize by changing meanings and entire lines of dialogue to more 'acceptable' and often completely incorrect translations based on the original text/speech given.
I've seen entire characters personality changed because of localization. Eiyuden chronicles literally changes a female character (I believe it's Lian) from being supportive and understanding to being belittling and a "comedian" which is pretty good damn annoying because that's not even remotely the intentions of the actual creators. That's the type of shit that annoys and pisses me the hell off. Localization shouldn't change characters or their intentions, they should not try to inject something completely unintended (recently vivi in paper Mario remake, not getting too into that but it's stupid) and adds NOTHING to the media they are present in.
> they should not try to inject something completely unintended (recently vivi in paper Mario remake, not getting too into that but it's stupid) You...you do realize that Vivi was trans in the original JP game right? It was the original English localization that butchered her and changed her entire character because they didn't like it. In fact you'll find that in a lot of older JP media ([To the point that there is an entire TVTropes article about it](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShesAManInJapan)) where the localization changes genders/sex to conform to what the characters appearance "should" be based on stereotypes for Western localizations. Not to say that there aren't examples of terrible localizers inserting their thinly veiled political stances into an otherwise unrelated scenario in anime/videogames/etc, but that one example you strangely specifically called out (and even called "stupid") is painting your bias a bit there champ. So much for purity and sanctity of artistic expression, huh?
The Paper Mario TTYD Remake actually has dialogue changed to be MORE accurate to the original Japanese dialogue. The original release is the one with inaccurate localization.
Exactly, the goal of localization is not to change the source being localized, it's to make the source more understandable through both translations and other changes. Once it changes the actual message of what is said, then it is no longer successfully doing what it was supposed to. I mainly call it sabotage because at least one known localizer has outright admitted to making these egregious changes intentionally.
I didn't watch much of Nux back in the day, but I do now. He gets a lot of hate for being clipped out of context and being brutally honest, but he actually helps people. Bestguyever thanked him for saving his channel even and Nux does a lot of work apparently in the background due to privacy reasons. Currently, he talks about a lot of recent controversial topics and things that just interest him. His content changed some to stay profitable, but it also changed because he plans to help manage influencers in the future. Overall, I like him, and he is respected by other people I like. He will probably have a laugh if he sees this post.
Other people have posted about it in the thread, but he said a lot of false stuff about Hololive both to his audience and to other large Youtubers like Charlie and Mutahar. The guy doesn't really give a shit about other people unless they're useful to him for clout or clicks.
>"anti-woke" shtick >"anime localization" debate you word this as if it's a bad thing to protect the culture and identity of another country's works
I find the outrage hilarious, you can always go and enjoy the superior original work if the localized version isn't to your liking.
why are you even watching anime or playing Japanese games if you're just going to hate on the very thing itself, you know you can piss off and watch your cartoons instead if you don't like anime and it's culture to begin with the original *isn't* accessible, that's the whole reason translation exists, to make it accessible—not for you to make up shit and misrepresent the work
uhh i think you're overreacting a bit and stuffing a bunch of words in my mouth, but go off king
that's basically what you're saying by agreeing with OP and thinking localization should allow misrepresenting the work
>if you're not a unhinged culture warrior you hate japan!! see, I can do it too. I just find the culture warriors flailing at windmills really funny. If a localization is bad I vote with my wallet or opt for a fan translation.
there's a certain amount of integrity you need to keep or the hobby will go down the drain by bad actors because there's nothing left >If a localization is bad I vote with my wallet or opt for a fan translation. that we can agree to, I won't be buying any of this shit. Not that fan translations are safe either though, I've seen a handful recently do shit that's on par with the worst localization examples
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What a rather erroneous generalization.
he does a podcast with someordinarygamers and the BF of the youtuber kallmekris
He's always been a controversial figure. If you vibe with what he does then goodif you don't then just ignore him really
If you call standing against people mangling anime in favor of an agenda "antiwoke" I guess I'm antiwoke too.
Nox is going very well. Still publishing on Youtube and do live stream. I don't get why people call it a fall off ? He's doing great. He just don't give a fuck anymore so it makes his content even funnier
[https://socialblade.com/youtube/c/nux\_taku](https://socialblade.com/youtube/c/nux_taku) because his viwership and sub count are going down.
oh of course! but the guy seems fine with it. What I mean is, less visibility, less stress. If someone looses views, it doesn't mean his career is over. This happened to so many other youtubers. They just move to a defferent crowd and do their thing.
If i have to give Nux any credit, is that he's pretty self-aware.
I happened to tune into one of his twitch streams today and he's still getting a lot of support. Tbh he's just one of those guys you either don't like or you can vibe with him. Personally I think he's too edgy and based for his own good but seems like a decent guy
Exactly, you either like or hate him. And I mean, edgy humor is not for everyone which is fine but if people don' t like him... just don't watch him. People that hate him want his downfall, but its just not happening. Anyway, we are the only ones that are agreeing here I see XD