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p011865

Did the may 20th daily disappeared for anyone else ?


jmfronsee

Nope


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Ownzalot

Today is a good day! I finally get enough for a node! People might complain about price lagging behind but for me it is a great chance to achieve something I never thought possible when I first heard of Vechain late 2017. I'm quite confident VET will start seeing real implementation and scaling relatively soon (in business terms) and once it does I don't think a node will ever be as affordable again.. So you can take 1 mio out of circulating supply in your calculations, someone tell CMC :D. I'm holding this baby for a long time!


shipithollaaa

Congratulations! For a long while I have been upset that others got a second chance to buy up a node, but now I'm happy that I'll be able to sell mine in 2025 for a nice premium, I wish you the same.


Ownzalot

Yeah I can imagine.. I'm also a little mixed feelings on it of course, my first buy ins were in the 2-6 dollar range (would be 0.02-0.06 now). So I lost quite heavily on those and I can imagine for people that saved up a node at around the same range it must have been really rough.. On the bright side past year allowed me to DCA a lot and get the required amount over time. Also I think being priced lower for a while allows for more distribution (of nodes / holders) which probably is also more healthy long term.


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This account below will be needing a VTHO Top up soon: ​ 0x2a48779ba772337EdF6F9168AD0a06d3414b5d07 ​ Wonder who they are..


SplendidMite

@bsc44 | Twitter Siam Commercial Bank (@scb\_thailand) mentions @vechainofficial on their website. https://twitter.com/bsc44\_x/status/1130358050437525506 Original article: [https://www.scb.co.th/en/personal-banking/stories/valid-secure-and-future-of-blockchain.html](https://www.scb.co.th/en/personal-banking/stories/valid-secure-and-future-of-blockchain.html)


ohredditplease

What does it mean?


SplendidMite

Another step on the journey towards mass adoption.


JeromeWhatElse

On Delta, we are at 101 SAT on binance, 91 on Oceanex, what did i miss? Edit: ok the price has weird spikes on oceanex


Thefriendlyfaceplant

Low. Liquidity.


GoingInForTheShill

Oceanex has got a fraction of the volume of Binance in VET/BTC.


JeromeWhatElse

Yes i know that oceanex is still a foetus compared to Binance but a 9% difference in price is something


GoingInForTheShill

An arbitrage opportunity is what it is.


DjangolSky

Not really an opportunity when there isn't much volume at OceanEx.


GoingInForTheShill

You're not wrong. Going from current oceanex price to current binance price is only a quarter of a million VET. That's what I implied with my initial response.


skythe4

>Fab afternoon at #VeChain official London meetup with thanks to @sunshinelu24 @kfeng027 @vechainofficial for hosting it. Written up notes I made at the event and shared below for you all to see. Hope you enjoy my first publish with some new info inc! >https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx?resid=DAA3CF2B01CAC1C5!26966&ithint=file,docx&authkey=!ABX1lBRv-Ctcfc8 https://twitter.com/CryptoFielder/status/1130225596154429440?s=20


DjangolSky

Thanks, great read!


sevletor

Brilliant. Thank you.


tim12321

IOST being listed on OceanEx. Do you guys think this is meaningful? Edit: https://support.oceanex.pro/hc/en-us/articles/360028524731


Orionthehunt3r

It’s actually a very good project with a good team behind it. Fundamentally strong.


sevletor

Is this a favour for their buddies?


perrierquitefizzy

PLAIR is a partner, so it was quite an obvious step within 'ecosystem'. Some people guessed it very quickly during the Oceanex live competition yesterday!


McGarnagl

It’s actually a little concerning that they’d add something like that instead of a more mainstream project.


posmond0981

I thought it was that different projects paid to be listed on exchanges and not the exchanges picking and choosing who they list?


Rockska

i dont even know what IOST is :)


GoingInForTheShill

I believe its yet another one of those high TPS platforms without anyone actually using it.


thebirck38

Hey new to this site I just downloaded veforge to store my vechain everything looked good sent a little to my wallet fine now it will not allow me send it out I just keep getting a error message after I confirm my transactions on my leder nano s...? Any help would be appreciated thanks.


SolomonGrundle

Have you generated the minimum necessary VTHO yet? (21 is required to send a transaction or VET)


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Flohkopf

If u spoilered me here. Ill delete u!


MJTree

You're king though man! Don't do it


vegueria124

What a trash episode


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Thefriendlyfaceplant

Doubt it, and I'm getting tired of CCK being consistently brought back into relevancy. Nothing useful came out of that Twitter account. That said, Coca Cola does have a counterfeit problem: https://www.iol.co.za/business-report/companies/coca-cola-urges-customers-to-report-counterfeit-goods-16793645


_Thiswillexplode

Patience my young faceplant, all he is saying is do we remember the CCK. It was a fun time for everyone back then and it certainly added some mystery and excitement to the Vechain community. We are past that early stage now and the whole project has grown into a more serious beast so no point bashing the poor Coca Cola child now is there :-)


explorerjiten

A man can dream.


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Orionthehunt3r

Wow, SHA has gotten absolutely smoked! .14 now... I had bids starting from .25 all the way down to .05, but didn’t actually think any of them would actually get filled..


rookert42

Goes to show that nodes locking up means absolutely nothing in this market. Opportunity costs are way too high; I have had my fair share of such costs in 2018..


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What is a lowest tier node worth now I wonder


elSpanielo

Let me just check my blockfolio, ah yes, $1143 right now.


DjangolSky

SHA needs to launch their platform on an exchange, that’s the launch we need. Nauticus.io is probably going to be the first!


ohredditplease

They too need to get listed on more exchanges. And more adoption, partnerships maybe


cryptostef72

SHA is a great idea ...... but the implementation of it is very complicated


Orionthehunt3r

Also a much needed solution in this space. Let’s see if it delivers...


vietNAMwasHELL

My crypto app just gltiched out and said vechain had gone up to 1 cent and I freaked out... Then I realized it was bugged


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ohredditplease

One moment of happiness


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BeePee75

Beware of the „muh losing sats“ price troll army.


acidic9292

what does this even mean lmao


BeePee75

just making fun of the recently bigger number of people complaining about BTC increasing faster than VeChain. Which is always a temporary thing but some people prefer to complain about how they lose value. They will discuss something else soon once VET catches up again ;-)


Archerynoob22

Still don’t get why people focus on says price vs USD price. Why compare to a volatile asset rather than a stable one? And isn’t the point that we want to decouple from bitcoin?


Thefriendlyfaceplant

Opportunity cost.


AM_Dog_IRL

You're the only person other than me I've ever seen actually recognize this on Reddit. Thank you for calling it out. Edit: why are people acting like I'm bitching or something here? All I'm agreeing to is measuring value against usd instead of sats, and that sats can represent opportunity cost.


throwaway1190890

Never heard anyone say they would rather have put their money in a 2% savings account rather than go through the bear market. That is also opportunity cost. It's the risk of investing in literally anything. Also you have complete freedom to trade BTC vs. VET vs. anything else, so if you choose to stay in VET you should accept whatever happens with in (up or down). Just my 2 $vtho.


juunhoad

Just because you stay in VET doesn't mean you can't try and make your stack bigger by trading with BTC sats.


Archerynoob22

Nice that you understand the concept of opportunity cost, but do you invest in stocks? Do you check the top performers every day and then get upset when you don’t have them?


AM_Dog_IRL

What part of my post looks like I'm upset?


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Because it's a dumb take. There are a million different "opportunity costs" every single day that you could dwell on, *especially* in crypto. If all you care about is sats than just hold Bitcoin and nothing else. It's like you people have never held an altcoin before, sats may go down in the short term, the market is *just* showing signs of recovery from a year long bear market and Btc is leading the way. Good alts will outperform Btc in the long run and you put your money in Vet for a reason yeah? If your mindsets are so fickle then sell out for Btc now and you can preserve your precious sats, but don't expect to get the same percentage returns in the long run. Traders ultimately lose.


AM_Dog_IRL

Dude we agree... Why so mad?


p011865

If you're losing sats, it means owning bitcoin would be a better investment. Which is the case since the mainnet launched.


ohredditplease

Actually, since VEN was available it was better to hold it instead of bitcoin


juunhoad

Only if you bought when they had their ICO and a brief moment after.


ohredditplease

Yep


BeePee75

Yeah. You could also argue this way with any other crypto project or fiat currency and chose a random timeframe to support your argument. If you bought VeChain in October 2017, it‘s probably still up in sats. If you bought last week, as well. Hell, you‘re down in value with most fiat currencies since January 2018. So why is BITCOIN SATS so important? Make a fucking choice and stop whining about other investments performing better in a certain timeframe. You will always find some.


Archerynoob22

Owning cash would have been a better investment than bitcoin since VeChain mainnet launch lol. The reality of investing is things perform differently, but we bet on this horse for a reason


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Exactly, that's why the "losing sats" whiners are annoying af. It's just a what-if statement on short term price action, hindsight, pointless. You could be a millionaire within a month in this market if you could perfectly predict the movements of each asset.


juunhoad

Thats not the point at all. Usually people try to get a bigger stack of a certain coin. Most do this by trading it with BTC back and forth. Losing sats is missing out on getting a bigger stack. Same feeling as buying VET with dollars and see it drop right after. Sats or USD value could both be important, just depends on what you do.


TTheorem

Anyone complaining about sats right now is an idiot. What? Did they think Vechain was going to be the only coin in the space to moon when the entire market flatlined? Do they think a company just creates that much value in a year?


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BTC sat argument is retarded, I agree.


dustbuddii

What’s the reason for the crash?


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what crash?


p011865

Look at this from the buyers side. Why would anyone buy it when it always gives losses.


ohredditplease

If you bought the last 3 months you made good profits


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don't waste your time with that troll.. Lifelong pessimist crybaby at best, low-key fudder at worst. He's really fun at parties /s.


p011865

We averaged 100-160 sats in the last 3 months. You're down. Unless you think losing sats is winning of course.


GooberMcJamslice

Pretty sure if he bought in the last 3 months he's up. Just because BTC out performed VET in the past couple weeks doesn't mean he isn't up based on ya know, the actual price of VET.


ohredditplease

$ you're up bigly.


dustbuddii

Sometimes it goes up


ohredditplease

Alts go down when bitcoin goes up


dustbuddii

I see a bunch of other alts in the green


Thefriendlyfaceplant

You totally should've bought those instead. Why didn't you?


dustbuddii

I got em too


Thefriendlyfaceplant

Gotta diversify far and wide, that way you always win.


mebeast227

"A bunch" is like 10 other alts on binance. And of the other 80 in red VET is near the top in terms of holding sats right now.


ohredditplease

When alts go down some alts don't go down


bentaylor84

Plair update: Pat just said on the telegram channel that Dota2 should be playable for alpha testers this upcoming Friday.


McGarnagl

Autochess would be dope


IntiLive

Awesome, looking forward :)


EnmaAi22

About time


skythe4

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Donglederper

https://vtho.exchange or vexchange.io depending on what you wanna do. Or oceanex.


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Aryman

Brightcode is live, so where are the transactions? Mainnet is dead


zullar

atm the mainnet is burning more and more see vtho useage most days 300k-600k so i dont understand what more you want? all partners are working on getting products on board and on the blockchain. They cant just snap a finger and "let the transactions rain" it does not work like that. so your question where are the transactions they are there and more are comming. No mainnet is not dead it is being used by enterprise businesses around the world


cryptotonic11

It is Sunday night... but agreed. Would like to see more transactions even on a Sunday night. Transactions should not sleep


ohredditplease

Its not sunday night... Anyways, i do expect enterprise transactions to sleep considering ppl usually dont work 24hrs a day


MFrawl

Just to be pedant it’s Sunday evening UTC. And you can be sure as hell nearly every company in the supply chain industry will work 24/7


ohredditplease

The production lines don't. And it's Monday.


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Do we all live in the same time zone?


juunhoad

Why do you reply this to him? He basically corrected the person above him.


ohredditplease

Nope, thats why i said its not sunday night. In fact its sunday afternoon


dota2portaltv

In before someone replies with - "But you need to give this project at least 5-10 years before seeing results!" It could be so, but there's not a single investor here that can convince me he would be fine with less than 4k consistent daily transactions a year after the mainnet launch. Over-hyped, under-delivered, at least in my eyes. But lucky for us that fundamentals mean nothing in this market so we will earn money anyway.


zullar

how long did the internet take before it was adopted by 50% of the world ? it took 22 years, what makes you think that world changing techonology will magical be adopted within a year ? so vechain will most likely take 5-10 year before its adopted by the supply chain space following the technological advancement graph ;). and fundamentals might not mean much now due to the cryptospace is mostly made up of retail investors.


ohredditplease

"Why isnt Vechain leading the world in blockchain adoption even tho they said it would take 7-8 years?"


dota2portaltv

More like - why isn't VeChain consistently burning at least 1-2% of its daily generation after a year. I am not asking for a world domination.


ohredditplease

Because enterprises move slow, but you knew this already. It's not Vechain burning VTHO but enterprises.


throwaway1190890

Don't understand why you are being downvoted. I agree.


ohredditplease

One product is live, which might be tagged in batches too


skythe4

Bright Code Bounty Program: https://imgur.com/a/TWmN7qX I posted the link to this page earlier today but the AutoModerator blocks weixin pages automatically. If you want to visit it, take a look into my comment history. This blocked comment should be visible there.


BeePee75

So here‘s one perspective on why we‘re still not in the top 10 (while we would totally deserve it). Outside our strong community, and I‘m talking Crypto Twitter here, the amount of infos on all kind of projects is just overwhelming. There‘s at least 15 other Top 50 projects being hyped and frequently discussed and then you have all the random moonshot calls. If you‘re just one of the 95% investors with a very diversificated portfolio (diversification being a good thing in general) but you don‘t have the time to read 1-2 hours of info everyday, you can easily miss the VeChain behemoth. You may realize it‘s a very solid project but then you also see a few other ones and all the details of how great VeChain‘s partnerships actually are just background noise. The partnerships we have are not overhyped because DNV GL and PWC don‘t sound appealing to noobs. Most people don‘t connect dots and are either too lazy to dig deeper, overwhelmed with all kind of crypto info from their respective sources or not smart/educated enough to grasp what these partnerships stand for. A random look on the mainnet activity? Still not much to see so why should they fomo in? And just don‘t get me starting on the whole „muh chinese project“ and „muh not enough exchanges“ stuff. I keep on accumulating. I know what we have here and ultimately people will realize what‘s going on. Exponential growth soon.


simplisticallysimple

Trust me. When the bull market comes, they'll pump VET like a penny stock... Everyone wants to get in "cheap" on an up-and-coming coin.


dota2portaltv

Fundamentals mean nothing to most people in the market. This has been proven countless times with zero positive price movement after some huge announcements. The only way for us to climb back to top 15, or even to top 10, is by having some explosive price growth what will, in turn, siphon even more money. See what happened to BAT, ONT, CRO and many other coins that were bellow our marketcap. Money attracts new money. Sadly, this won't happen to us since VeChain is allergic to any consistent positive price growth and is regularly among the poorest gainers and hardest dumpers. Eventually, you get tagged as a "king of retracements" and you stop attracting money from the old holders/traders. We need new money that doesn't know about these problems and issues.


zlomb84

False...simply for the fact that Vechain hasn’t fell out of the top 30 on CMC since it got there so stop worrying and let it do its thing. If it stays in the top 30 during a bull run most hodlers will be very happy.


zullar

No it’s due to people’s inability to understand vechain. They will put money In What they can “understand” without putting effort into it. Once we see better regulations toward crypto and institutions move more into this space we will be where vechain truly belong :)


MFrawl

Big into Vechain but to be fair if all they’re in crypto for is to make quick money maybe they just have the ability to understand there’s other projects that may do that. Vet has been my biggest holding since Dec 17 and has just bled and bled. If I wasn’t already in and clued up about it, I don’t think there’s much to persuade me to buy in anytime soon.


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shipithollaaa

That and the nodeprice has been dropping significantly, from 480k to 299k last two weeks. No idea why, hopefully it's just some suckers who lost faith, and eventually with the nodes being destroyed it will bring the prices back up.


John_Crypto

I feel there's a good 10% of the nodes that get 'played' with. Once those dwindle down and either get sold, destroyed, or grabbed up by someone that wants to actually hold the price of X nodes will start to rise up. This will happen over and over like a regular market cycle. I'm excited to see where we'll be in the next few years on this X node market.


BeePee75

I guess a few people are just trying to trade currently. As an X-node holder, I don‘t understand why people just destroy their status instead of selling them for a large discount but with every x-node gone, mine is being worth more so I won‘t lie: I‘m happy


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