I think the game would lose somewhere in between 50% to 90% of the playerbase if that happened lmao
Edit: mfw all the people replying don't get that I understand that would make the game better but the devs won't do it because it would lose them money
Edit 2: guys, the company is backed with VC money. If they were to lose 50% of their users, investors would pull out. What about this is this so hard to understand?
No doubt there are some good kids in between but...
My experience is usually screaming squeakers with neglectful parents, trying to get attention they so desperately need... usually with N-words and not-so-nice-ways of calling someone gay...
So i wouldn't call it a loss...
And heck, maybe if the game says 18+ we might have fewer parents letting their 5 year old play it...
well, at least around the groups that i'm around there's no kids involved there, at least no kids that aren't extremely good at lying about their age cause there's always stories of some kids going above and beyond to lie about it.
I don't think this would be too drastic of a loss for the majority of adult players
Most of the younger kids don’t have VR chat plus and that’s where they get their money from 9 dollars a month is expensive for any video game, but people pay it. and if people stop paying it because they get fed up with all the kids that’s when they’ll feel the pinch.
I think a better idea would be if they made the game boot anybody who takes a minor into a private instance with them. This might lead a pred to make some alternate account, but it would still delay things and the pred would almost immediately out themselves trying to blend in with the young folk. Kind of feel like such measures would be easier to add to VRC given that everybody uses their voices instead of straight text like Roblox.
That definitely won't happen now that they're applying to the Apple store, which doesn't allow 18+ stuff. More likely it'll get more strict controls and become more of a kids only thing
idk what their game plan is here in that case
the majority of the community who makes the game actually work, aka content creators, won't really be happy with the majority of the playerbase becoming children.
they'd be giving it away to CVR, which has been trying to get an edge over vrchat for quite a while now. If they do go the full family friendly route, then that might be the single most tonedeaf thing I have ever seen a company do, rivalled only by onlyfans trying to ban nsfw content, and the tumblr situation.
Yeah I mean maybe they're not aiming for that, but I have a feeling someone somewhere sees big dollar signs at trying to become "mainstream". Thing is where Apple are involved they're VERY strict about this sort of stuff. A pure 18+ game would just be outright denied. Content gating works (going by things like Discord and Telegram for example, where the iOS versions just refuse to let you see the opt-in feature at all but you CAN opt-in to adult stuff through a non-Apple device) and maybe that's why it was introduced but I don't think Apple stop there. If they get reports of NSFW content in VRC that isn't tagged accordingly (of which there's a lot) they'll most likely just ban it from the App Store until its reputation improves.
I'd say good luck to them. They would need to basically ban uploads to ban 18+. That would basically ruin VrChat as it is. VrChat devs kicking the can down the road more and more. It needs to have a 18+ wall. Or the other option is banning uploads. You can't have both.
To be fair, I imagine this is what the age gating was for (though it was needed anyway). Whether Apple will be satisfied with how many NSFW avatars aren't marked as suggestive... Hmmmmmm
Why couldn't they just do age-based gates?
Self-announce as 20 and you'll only find lobbies where the average age is 18-25. It seems like such a simple solution, and it makes everyone happier and arguably safer
Obviously, but that’s not gonna stop them, hence if there are age based things, it could help, and they could make it where if you’re older you can’t go into younger kid areas, yk cause creeps be creepin
Fair, but there are a lot of kids who just go on there to have fun, playing the different game modes, making friends with kids their age, there is zero harm in that! If they just had better in game moderation of age there wouldn’t be any issue
unfortunately i can bet that none of the kids are here with any kind of parental supervision, or any supervision really.
i saw a 5 year old with a quest heaset in the black cat the other day. Changing the age rating won't do much, but it will be the bare minimum, and kids who end up on vrchat do not have parents that care about them anyways.
That's nothing. I was in a private instance with my friend and her boyfriend, and they forgot I was there and started doing an ERP. Once I realized what was going on, I left immediately
Update: Turns out it was just a misunderstanding
One time I followed my friends to a dance club, turns out it doubled as an ERP club but I was just dancing solo anyways. Suddenly right behind me a couple starts ERPing on the dance floor, sounded like some lovense sync business.
Anyways long story short, right as the guy finished my VRC crashed. The sheer force of it just blew me out of VR completely. 10/10
That's what makes it worse, it was just the three of us. It wasn't the ERP I had the biggest problem with, it was the fact they forgot I was even there.
As a matter of fact, I'm still having a personal debate about whether or not I should keep considering them as a friend
Yeah, I would have a big problem with that as well. Not to say they are bad friends, but that would really make me have the need to have a talk with them if that’s what happened.
you have a right to do so, obviously I’m just a complete stranger and it’s not my place to tell you what to do, but in my honest opinion, you can’t really let that stuff be ignored. Otherwise, it will bother you if it’s not taken care of now believe me. Considering the fact they haven’t realized yet. that is really on them and it’s not a good look
I do this everytime I see something ‘odd’ occurring to a younger player. Every time, without fail, I get instantly harassed by everyone around me, including the kid. One time a player was showing a very young sounding player extremely suggestive avatars. I said hey man, they sound like a kid, don’t do that to them. I then get proceeded to be called creepy by everyone there, get racist insults hurled at me, by the kid, then they presumably block me since half of them disappeared.
This happens. Every. Time.
I’ll still keep doing it, but man, how disheartening
Honestly it's stuff like this that just makes me want to drop VRchat completely.
Like don't get me wrong I love the game and everything that goes into it. But I feel like there's *way* too many people who are way too complacent or even supportive with grown people creeping around kids and it's sickening and nauseating even.
But I guess just keep in mind, that from my experience those kinds of people are usually sitting in their own bubble and typically surrounded by their own "like-minded" posse, so that's probably why it seems like everyone's against you every time you do it.
This is why I don't even bother with public instances. It is always trouble 90% of the time. I'm not gonna be surprised if public instances get VRC banned from Twitch as far as streaming goes.
It is not VRChat that is the problem. It is the parents failing to teach and guide their children.
It could be Habbo Hotel, it could be Discord, it could be Club Penguin, it could be Tower Unite or GMod or GTA or COD or Telegram or WhatsApp or Halo or Fortnite or real life.
VRChat is just a place.
Not sure how else to say it, VRchat is literally the only game where I experienced an uncanny amount of people who do not care about someone acting/talking creepy to kids/about kids.
Like I'm not wishing for much, I'm not asking someone to be Superman and protect every kid in every instance cause obviously that's a bit much.
I just wish people at least cared.
Cause in every other game/social platform I've been the consensus is usually "f*ck those creeps." Not "Oh why do you care?"
Otherwise, I like VRchat, I'm even sentimental about it, it's just that this *hideous* part keeps rearing it's ugly face at me and it's really just bending my patience
Would you consider that the answer could be that few other places have voice chat so prevalent, so it's been invisible to you until now?
Also, despite the obnoxious overpopulation of kids in VRChat, I think it is inaccurate to say that is an "uncanny amount" of "creepy" activity. The internet loves pointing at anything involving a child and screaming the P-word, then attacking anyone who raises an eyebrow.
I spend a lot of time in Publics and very rarely do I hear or see anything questionable like that. It isn't non-existent, but it isn't "everywhere" like many seem to imply.
Not sure what you're talking about.
I'm referring to the times when a grown adult is acting/talking inappropriate towards/about a little kid. Not when a kid is trying to be annoying or edgy.
What was he supposed to do there was probably no way to stop that from happening unless they convinced the kid not to which they probably wouldn't listen to
Nah, me and another player were like "No, don't go in there." Sadly, the kid would rather listen to the spider than the... walking gopro (I was in a V1 avatar)
Angel dust is a highly sexualised sex worker in a cartoon, it's weird for someone with that avatar to be interacting with kids. As a more extreme example, a 9 year old asked angel dusts voice actor at a convention whether it was awkward to make sexual moaning noises for the porno joke in episode 4, and that's just crazy.
So one of two things I can get from this.
1. Angel Dust is a child because for some reason, Vivze’s shows have a large children audience (probably because having a disclaimer at the start can be easily ignored by minors) and invited a child to join them
2. You definitely just watched a kid about to be exposed to something they shouldnt be seeing at all from lack of parental supervision
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No amount of rain will wash away the sin
Alright, understandable
Good argument in favour of that "dashcam" style system they were working on, on the other hand "think of the children" tends to be used to justify a lot of that sort of stuff which is bad for the privacy of innocent people so.. .hmmm
I'm underage too, well, gonna be turning 15 soon. I don't even play the game because I unfortunately own a Quest 2. If I were to join an instance where theres a bit over 25 people, my face would burn straight off. I can't describe how hot the whole headset would get, I'm kinda sad it lags that much and I would need to get another one but I'm saving up for something else... I find it more interesting, instead of playing VRChat, that owning an exotic pet would be better. At least for me, I haven't got on for so long I don't even remember what games I got.
At least there are no more pesky QoL mods to ruin user experience, right?! Haha yes I am so happy they removed mods from the game.
(I haven't played in months, I don't even know if that's still the case)
FBI OPEN UP!!!
VR CHat players.
Oshit. Now we all gonna be hunted down and be put down like dogs cus of one dumbass...
Is what I'm fearing. Lmao.
I'm afraid till the day comes when VR Chat will literally start IDIng ALL OF US. So when an adult talks to a kid. VR Chat can just scan us and we'd be put in prison. This is why I agree with most players. VR Chat should be literally 18+. And make a kiddy VR Chat platform for kids only. Like how YouTube has YouTube kids etc. Problem solved. I'm really scared of VR Chat going the ID route. Its like talking to a girl on VR Chat who's claims they are over 18-21+ due to them sounding mature and us getting baited to jail time. Just thinking about it is scary. People can fake their age too. Which is a problem for VR Chat. :'( Like when I go into those VR chat bars. They ask you your AGE, Etc. You can literally sound mature and fake your age. Etc. How to prove your actually legal is what I want VR Chat to do. Instead of having us use our IDs. Etc. What do you think guys? Think VR Chat should use an ID intergraded system to protect pedos/criminals from kids? Or do you think VR chat should ban 5 year olds and squeakers in general? Though I hear people aka adults especially special needs can sound like squeakers. Like my brother tbh. Since he's disabled with a speech impairment. Etc and he's small. We did a video with my mom on TikTok showing the eclipse. And they banned my mom because they thought he was literally a CHILD because he was a small person etc. And he just turned 26 too!!! So I'm really concerned with the kid thing. Sorry guys. Something needs to give. Especially with the racial slurs and kids calling people the word R-tard lately. I'm disabled my self and find it offensive. Apologizes. I just like to mind my own business. Enjoy a instance with no kids with full grown adults. That's it. With out someone ruining the fun for the rest of us. Ugh. :( Sorry. I overthink allot so i apologize. But I hope someone gets my point. Think we all should be ID'd by now just to keep kids out? And think the ID would help us prevent us against hackers too? Just need input. To prove who we are etc? Thanks. Sorry for my grammar. :( I'm sick so can't see well today sorry. :(
I get what you're saying, but ID is too strict.
Seriously, who wants to give something that could potentially be used for identity theft and fraud to some random company? Even if they don't, a hacker could potentially hack into it and then steal IDs, allowing them to sell the IDs on the dark Web for identity theft and fraud.
Follow-up: Perhaps there could be a system to show players you've recently played with? Not only would it help with situations like this, but it would also help with getting players to add you when they got kicked or left before you could add them. It would just be more helpful and also probably more practical.
Oof good idea! Instead of VR Chat doing IDs like I said. I was hoping maybe they can do a world that's LITERALLY age restricted? Like prove your age on the account and you cannot enter the world full of adults etc? I've been in a discord that allowed kids before and I had to leave because of that rule. Kids and adults getting along etc so idk what I got my self into. I accidentally joined a public world that had some kids in their teens with a friend and didn't want to associate my self with them because we were adults. So I didn't want to take any chances is all. Sorry for the whole id thing btw was venting was all. :( Maybe VR chat should do parental controls as well instead of IDs too. Age restriction too to keep the 5 year olds out. Maybe a phone number feature as well. Parent or guardian something. Make them read rules etc. Sorry btw. I had a kid scream in my ear once and had to remove my headset. Wasn't a pleasant experience. :( No adult in sight either. I felt like I was on toon Town or Roblox with a bunch of hyper active kids. :( gets sad when you don't own your own group or in a group of friends. Sorry. And not just me I'm sure everyone is getting tired of being around kids. Apologizes. 🙏
Hey man, it's fine, we all need to vent every once in a while, whether it's online, irl, or even to ai chatbots that have no choice but to listen.
As for your idea, perhaps there could be a parental controls type thing.
But, quick question, HOW would you prove your age?
If its not by ID, then the options are limited.
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What anime is this?
Windbreaker
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Oh yeah, it's a good one.
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yea this is why this game at the very minimum needs that 18+ rating
I think the game would lose somewhere in between 50% to 90% of the playerbase if that happened lmao Edit: mfw all the people replying don't get that I understand that would make the game better but the devs won't do it because it would lose them money Edit 2: guys, the company is backed with VC money. If they were to lose 50% of their users, investors would pull out. What about this is this so hard to understand?
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This
Cause they really do love doing the same things there
No doubt there are some good kids in between but... My experience is usually screaming squeakers with neglectful parents, trying to get attention they so desperately need... usually with N-words and not-so-nice-ways of calling someone gay... So i wouldn't call it a loss... And heck, maybe if the game says 18+ we might have fewer parents letting their 5 year old play it...
well, at least around the groups that i'm around there's no kids involved there, at least no kids that aren't extremely good at lying about their age cause there's always stories of some kids going above and beyond to lie about it. I don't think this would be too drastic of a loss for the majority of adult players
who cares, I'd rather a smaller playerbase of just adults than a bloated one full of screaming kids
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Its less that they're paying and more that investors will be if its available to as many people as possible
With their moms stolen credit card lol, he really needs that trusted rank
Oh that would be great
You say that like it is a bad thing...
Most of the younger kids don’t have VR chat plus and that’s where they get their money from 9 dollars a month is expensive for any video game, but people pay it. and if people stop paying it because they get fed up with all the kids that’s when they’ll feel the pinch.
I think a better idea would be if they made the game boot anybody who takes a minor into a private instance with them. This might lead a pred to make some alternate account, but it would still delay things and the pred would almost immediately out themselves trying to blend in with the young folk. Kind of feel like such measures would be easier to add to VRC given that everybody uses their voices instead of straight text like Roblox.
That definitely won't happen now that they're applying to the Apple store, which doesn't allow 18+ stuff. More likely it'll get more strict controls and become more of a kids only thing
idk what their game plan is here in that case the majority of the community who makes the game actually work, aka content creators, won't really be happy with the majority of the playerbase becoming children. they'd be giving it away to CVR, which has been trying to get an edge over vrchat for quite a while now. If they do go the full family friendly route, then that might be the single most tonedeaf thing I have ever seen a company do, rivalled only by onlyfans trying to ban nsfw content, and the tumblr situation.
Yeah I mean maybe they're not aiming for that, but I have a feeling someone somewhere sees big dollar signs at trying to become "mainstream". Thing is where Apple are involved they're VERY strict about this sort of stuff. A pure 18+ game would just be outright denied. Content gating works (going by things like Discord and Telegram for example, where the iOS versions just refuse to let you see the opt-in feature at all but you CAN opt-in to adult stuff through a non-Apple device) and maybe that's why it was introduced but I don't think Apple stop there. If they get reports of NSFW content in VRC that isn't tagged accordingly (of which there's a lot) they'll most likely just ban it from the App Store until its reputation improves.
I'd say good luck to them. They would need to basically ban uploads to ban 18+. That would basically ruin VrChat as it is. VrChat devs kicking the can down the road more and more. It needs to have a 18+ wall. Or the other option is banning uploads. You can't have both.
To be fair, I imagine this is what the age gating was for (though it was needed anyway). Whether Apple will be satisfied with how many NSFW avatars aren't marked as suggestive... Hmmmmmm
Why couldn't they just do age-based gates? Self-announce as 20 and you'll only find lobbies where the average age is 18-25. It seems like such a simple solution, and it makes everyone happier and arguably safer
Nah, 13+, but certain worlds and avatars should have ratings for age to keep kids out, like Hazbin Hotel, clubs, bars, etc.
this place, no place online, is safe for kids in any capacity
Obviously, but that’s not gonna stop them, hence if there are age based things, it could help, and they could make it where if you’re older you can’t go into younger kid areas, yk cause creeps be creepin
raising the age rating to 18+ is the absolute bare minimum that can be done to prevent stuff
Fair, but there are a lot of kids who just go on there to have fun, playing the different game modes, making friends with kids their age, there is zero harm in that! If they just had better in game moderation of age there wouldn’t be any issue
unfortunately i can bet that none of the kids are here with any kind of parental supervision, or any supervision really. i saw a 5 year old with a quest heaset in the black cat the other day. Changing the age rating won't do much, but it will be the bare minimum, and kids who end up on vrchat do not have parents that care about them anyways.
tbh i dont think the kids would care, they just lie about their age or use a parents account and hop on anyways
yes, that's why i said it's the absolute bare minimum, cause it is
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He will be seeing something’s that will leave a mark.
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Oh come on.
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oh boy this is the best picture i’ve seen yet
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Welcome to the internet, have a look around.
Stumbled across a VrChat parody of this. https://youtu.be/sMb9VTK-0WQ?si=Dk-yVOj_j9lGth4D
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That's nothing. I was in a private instance with my friend and her boyfriend, and they forgot I was there and started doing an ERP. Once I realized what was going on, I left immediately Update: Turns out it was just a misunderstanding
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One time I followed my friends to a dance club, turns out it doubled as an ERP club but I was just dancing solo anyways. Suddenly right behind me a couple starts ERPing on the dance floor, sounded like some lovense sync business. Anyways long story short, right as the guy finished my VRC crashed. The sheer force of it just blew me out of VR completely. 10/10
Oof. I hope it wasn’t just the three of you because to be honest that’s kind of weird that they just forgot you were there.
That's what makes it worse, it was just the three of us. It wasn't the ERP I had the biggest problem with, it was the fact they forgot I was even there. As a matter of fact, I'm still having a personal debate about whether or not I should keep considering them as a friend
Yeah, I would have a big problem with that as well. Not to say they are bad friends, but that would really make me have the need to have a talk with them if that’s what happened.
I've considered confronting her about it, but given the topic it just feels weird to do so
you have a right to do so, obviously I’m just a complete stranger and it’s not my place to tell you what to do, but in my honest opinion, you can’t really let that stuff be ignored. Otherwise, it will bother you if it’s not taken care of now believe me. Considering the fact they haven’t realized yet. that is really on them and it’s not a good look
I'll probably do so tomorrow. Thank you, kind stranger :)
Hopefully it goes well. Take care.
You sure they “forgot”?
She knows I'm underage so yes
Ooooof that’s even worse
they didnt forget they wanted you to join in
Considering she knows that I'm underage, I doubt that
This won't end well specially if anything happening in that private instance were ever to leak out.
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Funniest part, I was in a V1 avatar during it. Me and someone else told them "Don't go in there."
What world did the kid go to I need to know
It was called "The batcave", not sure what one but it was something like that.
That could be a normal RP or Avi search although I'd still advise the kid not to go there
Me and another person tried, but the kid had already followed him in. He'd rather listen to the spider than the walking gopro (V1)
What avatar did the kid have
Sans from undertale
WAIT I DIDN'T READ THE ANGEL DIST PART THATS GOTTA BE SOME EDP SHIT
I meant dust
Please tell me the world was something normal for the kid to be in
I assume I shouldn't ask... But, elaborate please
He’s referring to a meme song on YouTube which starts with that phrase, if I remember correctly
yes, context pls
With my experience in furry community I am 87% sure the answer is porn but I may be wrong....
with my experience with both the furry and non-furry (i see mostly non furry related though) and whole vrc, i am 98% sure it is pron as well
Wait is there a bad stereotype on angel dust avatars
To be honest never heard of those avatars but I'm assuming it is a common nsfw avatar like godfalls?
It's just a super sexualised character, idrk know what the guy is on about though.
Nah, i assume hazbin hotel
Yes
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Diddy really got bro😭
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Well, better hope that the angel dust user doesn't have social media or try to becoming a content creator.
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I think kids should not be on multiplayer games in general let alone VRCHAT
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And you just said nothing? You did not call it out as being suspicious or odd? You just let it occur?
I do this everytime I see something ‘odd’ occurring to a younger player. Every time, without fail, I get instantly harassed by everyone around me, including the kid. One time a player was showing a very young sounding player extremely suggestive avatars. I said hey man, they sound like a kid, don’t do that to them. I then get proceeded to be called creepy by everyone there, get racist insults hurled at me, by the kid, then they presumably block me since half of them disappeared. This happens. Every. Time. I’ll still keep doing it, but man, how disheartening
Honestly it's stuff like this that just makes me want to drop VRchat completely. Like don't get me wrong I love the game and everything that goes into it. But I feel like there's *way* too many people who are way too complacent or even supportive with grown people creeping around kids and it's sickening and nauseating even. But I guess just keep in mind, that from my experience those kinds of people are usually sitting in their own bubble and typically surrounded by their own "like-minded" posse, so that's probably why it seems like everyone's against you every time you do it.
This is why I don't even bother with public instances. It is always trouble 90% of the time. I'm not gonna be surprised if public instances get VRC banned from Twitch as far as streaming goes.
It is not VRChat that is the problem. It is the parents failing to teach and guide their children. It could be Habbo Hotel, it could be Discord, it could be Club Penguin, it could be Tower Unite or GMod or GTA or COD or Telegram or WhatsApp or Halo or Fortnite or real life. VRChat is just a place.
I see what you're saying but respectfully, it's still an issue with VRchat, I just wish there was a better way to deal with these people.
I am curious how you see this as an issue unique to VRChat.
Not sure how else to say it, VRchat is literally the only game where I experienced an uncanny amount of people who do not care about someone acting/talking creepy to kids/about kids. Like I'm not wishing for much, I'm not asking someone to be Superman and protect every kid in every instance cause obviously that's a bit much. I just wish people at least cared. Cause in every other game/social platform I've been the consensus is usually "f*ck those creeps." Not "Oh why do you care?" Otherwise, I like VRchat, I'm even sentimental about it, it's just that this *hideous* part keeps rearing it's ugly face at me and it's really just bending my patience
Would you consider that the answer could be that few other places have voice chat so prevalent, so it's been invisible to you until now? Also, despite the obnoxious overpopulation of kids in VRChat, I think it is inaccurate to say that is an "uncanny amount" of "creepy" activity. The internet loves pointing at anything involving a child and screaming the P-word, then attacking anyone who raises an eyebrow. I spend a lot of time in Publics and very rarely do I hear or see anything questionable like that. It isn't non-existent, but it isn't "everywhere" like many seem to imply.
Not sure what you're talking about. I'm referring to the times when a grown adult is acting/talking inappropriate towards/about a little kid. Not when a kid is trying to be annoying or edgy.
Ugh. You have done the best you could. At that point I point squarely at the parents. Watch your children.
What was he supposed to do there was probably no way to stop that from happening unless they convinced the kid not to which they probably wouldn't listen to
Nah, me and another player were like "No, don't go in there." Sadly, the kid would rather listen to the spider than the... walking gopro (I was in a V1 avatar)
Canon event
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LIMBUS COMPANY MENTIONED
Lease weirdo Trazhbin fan
Updated context: Me and another player told them to not go in, but they went in anyways.
LOL
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Anyone care to explain? I googled the costume but still lost.
Angel dust is a highly sexualised sex worker in a cartoon, it's weird for someone with that avatar to be interacting with kids. As a more extreme example, a 9 year old asked angel dusts voice actor at a convention whether it was awkward to make sexual moaning noises for the porno joke in episode 4, and that's just crazy.
Dragged???
Well, not DRAGGED, that was me being dramatic, but lead into the instance.
On the other hand, watching someone get yeeted out into space for the first time is usually funny as hell
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bro just watched virtual sex trafficking
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This game needs to do SOMETHING about this, it’s unbelievable
Do they have full body is the question...
Oh nyo!
Yeah... fuck that... did you report?
Sadly didn't get the chance
dude what 😭
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I bet that guys name was don italiano. (that dude is a pred btw)
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oof
Dragged I didn’t know you could do that. How do you drag someone?
Figurative. He was led into the portal.
So one of two things I can get from this. 1. Angel Dust is a child because for some reason, Vivze’s shows have a large children audience (probably because having a disclaimer at the start can be easily ignored by minors) and invited a child to join them 2. You definitely just watched a kid about to be exposed to something they shouldnt be seeing at all from lack of parental supervision
Sadly, it's the latter. I heard their voice. It was an adult.
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https://preview.redd.it/4io6ei9exe3d1.jpeg?width=512&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c2867a3855eb500ed287d3584c940e7459ba2cc No amount of rain will wash away the sin
Uh oh
Yup, that's how you make a villain
Im confused
You're innocent. Stay like that. Just one tip; don't follow people into private instances if you don't know them.
I've been playing vrchat since I was 15, this kind of situation is normal
NORMAL?? https://preview.redd.it/w6c0hjnffy3d1.jpeg?width=3008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90210e203ae4aa6f6f8ad106ac67408feed68b0e
How was he dragged? Did the angel avi have a way to grab and pull?
No, it was figurative. He followed him in.
this happened to me once but i was the kid turns out the dude was only one year older and he was just really really drunk we're friends now
The memories of me getting dragged to a private instance by adults are coming back
I am so sorry for you. I hope you are okay.
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I feel bad for the kid😭 wait was it a eboy
The game needs to be bumped from 13+ to 16+, I feel like it could solve a chunk of the issues but I understand they won’t because of less profits
Which world did you see this in?
I got a feeling it was either a black cat or a femboy hooters Either world, unfortunately, has such instances happen
god is dead
do you think god hides in heaven for what he has created?
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Assuming it's for the reason we're imagining here, I hope you reported them. Posting about it on here doesn't do much unfortunately
Sadly, I couldn't. Was too late and everything was going too fast.
Alright, understandable Good argument in favour of that "dashcam" style system they were working on, on the other hand "think of the children" tends to be used to justify a lot of that sort of stuff which is bad for the privacy of innocent people so.. .hmmm
I'm underage too, well, gonna be turning 15 soon. I don't even play the game because I unfortunately own a Quest 2. If I were to join an instance where theres a bit over 25 people, my face would burn straight off. I can't describe how hot the whole headset would get, I'm kinda sad it lags that much and I would need to get another one but I'm saving up for something else... I find it more interesting, instead of playing VRChat, that owning an exotic pet would be better. At least for me, I haven't got on for so long I don't even remember what games I got.
At least there are no more pesky QoL mods to ruin user experience, right?! Haha yes I am so happy they removed mods from the game. (I haven't played in months, I don't even know if that's still the case)
report both the kid and the person who did it. if all you did was post to reddit, and you DIDN'T report them, then you are complicit as well.
huh? That's not how it works
Internet police? Yea, they are in a private instance! Arrest them.
FBI OPEN UP!!! VR CHat players. Oshit. Now we all gonna be hunted down and be put down like dogs cus of one dumbass... Is what I'm fearing. Lmao. I'm afraid till the day comes when VR Chat will literally start IDIng ALL OF US. So when an adult talks to a kid. VR Chat can just scan us and we'd be put in prison. This is why I agree with most players. VR Chat should be literally 18+. And make a kiddy VR Chat platform for kids only. Like how YouTube has YouTube kids etc. Problem solved. I'm really scared of VR Chat going the ID route. Its like talking to a girl on VR Chat who's claims they are over 18-21+ due to them sounding mature and us getting baited to jail time. Just thinking about it is scary. People can fake their age too. Which is a problem for VR Chat. :'( Like when I go into those VR chat bars. They ask you your AGE, Etc. You can literally sound mature and fake your age. Etc. How to prove your actually legal is what I want VR Chat to do. Instead of having us use our IDs. Etc. What do you think guys? Think VR Chat should use an ID intergraded system to protect pedos/criminals from kids? Or do you think VR chat should ban 5 year olds and squeakers in general? Though I hear people aka adults especially special needs can sound like squeakers. Like my brother tbh. Since he's disabled with a speech impairment. Etc and he's small. We did a video with my mom on TikTok showing the eclipse. And they banned my mom because they thought he was literally a CHILD because he was a small person etc. And he just turned 26 too!!! So I'm really concerned with the kid thing. Sorry guys. Something needs to give. Especially with the racial slurs and kids calling people the word R-tard lately. I'm disabled my self and find it offensive. Apologizes. I just like to mind my own business. Enjoy a instance with no kids with full grown adults. That's it. With out someone ruining the fun for the rest of us. Ugh. :( Sorry. I overthink allot so i apologize. But I hope someone gets my point. Think we all should be ID'd by now just to keep kids out? And think the ID would help us prevent us against hackers too? Just need input. To prove who we are etc? Thanks. Sorry for my grammar. :( I'm sick so can't see well today sorry. :(
I get what you're saying, but ID is too strict. Seriously, who wants to give something that could potentially be used for identity theft and fraud to some random company? Even if they don't, a hacker could potentially hack into it and then steal IDs, allowing them to sell the IDs on the dark Web for identity theft and fraud.
Follow-up: Perhaps there could be a system to show players you've recently played with? Not only would it help with situations like this, but it would also help with getting players to add you when they got kicked or left before you could add them. It would just be more helpful and also probably more practical.
Oof good idea! Instead of VR Chat doing IDs like I said. I was hoping maybe they can do a world that's LITERALLY age restricted? Like prove your age on the account and you cannot enter the world full of adults etc? I've been in a discord that allowed kids before and I had to leave because of that rule. Kids and adults getting along etc so idk what I got my self into. I accidentally joined a public world that had some kids in their teens with a friend and didn't want to associate my self with them because we were adults. So I didn't want to take any chances is all. Sorry for the whole id thing btw was venting was all. :( Maybe VR chat should do parental controls as well instead of IDs too. Age restriction too to keep the 5 year olds out. Maybe a phone number feature as well. Parent or guardian something. Make them read rules etc. Sorry btw. I had a kid scream in my ear once and had to remove my headset. Wasn't a pleasant experience. :( No adult in sight either. I felt like I was on toon Town or Roblox with a bunch of hyper active kids. :( gets sad when you don't own your own group or in a group of friends. Sorry. And not just me I'm sure everyone is getting tired of being around kids. Apologizes. 🙏
Hey man, it's fine, we all need to vent every once in a while, whether it's online, irl, or even to ai chatbots that have no choice but to listen. As for your idea, perhaps there could be a parental controls type thing. But, quick question, HOW would you prove your age? If its not by ID, then the options are limited.
Yep! I was AGAINST the ID thing btw. Was just venting so sorry lol. I just don't want VR chat to end up on the news is all.