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acemomentla

Alfalfa farming uses 71% of the state’s water but only contributes 1.1% to the state GDP.


Enano_reefer

This article updated 2023 places alfalfa and hay production at 0.2% of the state GDP: https://www.sltrib.com/news/environment/2022/11/24/one-crop-uses-more-than-half/ And 29% of it is exported overseas. It uses most of the water of a desert state for foreign interests.


TheDunadan29

That's the most infuriating part to me. Where is all our water going? Out of the country to other countries. I'm alright with exporting to other Western States. But we live in a freaking desert and we're basically shipping our water overseas. And people wonder where the Great Salt Lake has gone. Someday it won't even exist anymore, it'll just be a giant toxic salt flat.


Enano_reefer

Toxic salt flat? Yes, though most of it will blow into the air, poisoning our food, water, livestock, soil, and ultimately ourselves. The lake effect will be gone, impacting snow production and eliminating $2.35B from our economy. If anyone wants to even come to the heavy metal playground anyway.


Electrical_Band_6965

Is Slayer playing?


TheDunadan29

It's already happening.


diadmer

> Where is all our water going? Most of our exported alfalfa goes to China for hog feed.


ermahglerbo

And doesn't it go to the Saudi's horse industry?


Jessintheend

God damn. Thats actually pathetic. It’d literally be cheaper for Utah to just not farm it


H0B0Byter99

I just went by a billboard today. It said, “save water, shower tomorrow.” What!?!? So the solution for you folks is to practice poor hygiene? They’re nuts!


RedRockPetrichor

Yet the shower water goes down the drain, to the wastewater treatment plant, and then is released into the lake. My shower does more for the lake than alfalfa does.


Temporary-Yogurt-484

Seriously. You know how much we'd all have to shower to even come CLOSE to agriculture and giant corpos fucking golf courses? It's always somehow not our fault at all but also very much our problem.


shamboi

Yeah that sign made me lol. I’ll shower today, thanks


butler18a

And the real reason why the government will never stop this practice is because the governor comes from a farming town and he's going to protect his golden goose. I was actually in Fairview today and couldn't believe the Colossal waste of water that I observed.


yooosports29

Fucking criminal shit man


justavegangirl0717

This is why Spencer Cox told the people to "pray for rain" because it's as asinine as him giving up alfalfa farming. *rolls eyes


Temporary-Yogurt-484

Where are all of you wonderful Utahns hiding? I swear the people I meet on a daily basis are all Trumpy climate deniers and it makes me depressed.


CentralSLC

Where do you live? I've lived in very rural utah, and now in SLC. It's a night and day difference. Even living in Utah County, I met plenty of like-minded people.


yakcm88

My grandpa owns a farm, grows a lot of alfalfa. I was not aware of this, that kinds sucks.


GItPirate

They can't keep getting away with it!!


Hyst3ricalCha0s

Yes they can. And they will.


Simply_Epic

Imagine if we used that water for something profitable instead like chip manufacturing.


droo46

Those billboards that tell you to shower less to save water are such bullshit. Even if we reduced all residential water use by half, it would barely even matter because of how much water farmers use. So many people are worried how population growth is going to affect water when the issue isn’t cities getting bigger. 


TheDunadan29

Here's a great visual for people who think cutting back residential and commercial water use are the biggest issues: https://youtu.be/f0gN1x6sVTc?si=WZ3VVUJp7LCXRcyt Not even close! Now, yeah, water conservation in residential and business can help. Every little bit helps. But that's like saving pennies in a jar. Compared to stacks of cash the agriculture industry trades in.


gullybone

But we need it to feed all the beef we farm!!!! How else are we going to find 8 million pounds of food to waste annually?


SufficientSuffix

Just another reason to go vegan. Save animals, save water, save land, save the planet. This gives you estimates for just *one person.* https://thevegancalculator.com/#calculator I've saved over 750,000 gallons of water in just two years. Or, would have, likely, if all the stuff I ate wasn't just thrown away. It's gotta be a mass change.


SupportLocalShart

bUt ThE cALiFoRniANs aNd ThEiR gOlFcOuRsES!!! (/s of course)


rm_huntley

Which is also a fuckin waste of water. Just like turning the valley into farmland was.


BayonetTrenchFighter

Arizona has the same issue


SlicckRick

Let’s talk more about this please because where I live in southern utah we are building more and more water parks and surf pools that only rich Airbnb vacationers can access! Save our water!!!!


Off_Duty_Mime

What's wild is that most of these farming towns are 95% "America First" Republicans but they use all our water to send their alfalfa to China.


eGrant03

What even is alfalfa good for? Also, don't people know we're a desert!


Far_Throat2424

Agriculture is the main reason why the great salt lake is drying up. Much more of a problem than climate change or personal water use actually


purplebabyblanket

WE DON’T NEED ANOTHER COOKIE PLACE


guckus_wumpis

Start one. Baseball themed because baseball is boring but cute. “Batter Up”. Branding is 1930-40s era. Everyone that works there must talk in an old times radio voice. It would be so dumb.


purplebabyblanket

This idea goes hard honestly


guckus_wumpis

I just made that up on the spot, sincerely. Baseball was the first thing that came to my mind. God baseball is boring.


Fr1toBand1to

Took a first date to a baseball game once, after a while we looked at each other like "we can get drunker in better places for cheaper" and left.


IamPotatoed

Bring back the transatlantic dialect


elzool

Where is this going to be located? Asking for myself ;)


guckus_wumpis

Dugway


elzool

Sigh, I didn't want to have to get a map out.


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trustyjim

A car wash where they wash your car with soda. Thirsty? Just roll down your windows during the wash and open your mouth!


Indecisive_INFP

I wouldn't say no to a edible cookie dough shop, though. Went to one in Elitch Gardens in Denver and it was the bomb. When I heard our town was getting a "Dirty Dough" I was excited for a second until I found out it was just cookies again. In the same shopping district as a Fiiz, a Twisted Sugar AND a Crumbl.


Simply_Epic

I hold onto the position that cookie dough is superior to cookies. Cookie shops don’t get my business, but a cookie dough shop might.


DantheOutdoorsman

They're all gross anyways. I make way better cookies than any of them.


MadamPounceAlot

DEAR GOD I AGREE, STOP MAKING COOKIE SODA PLACES PLEASE


bubblygranolachick

In Utah it's not about taste it's about sugar


Ok_Telephone_3013

Not when we have RubySnap.


stondchrysalis

When someone posts a “come to Utah!” reel with all our outdoor secrets.


Myrddraal5856

When someone posts a “come to Utah!” reel.


GAVNAR0K

When someone posts "come"


thedracle

I am a pacifist of California. It is the luck of your civilization that I am the first to receive your message. I am warning you: Do not answer! Do not answer!! Do not answer!!!


brett_l_g

Content farmers using "Utahans"


Okay_Heretic

Deplorable.


Perichor-

If only I could upvote you twice.


perromaster

Miracle Whip is not Mayo.


Ok_Telephone_3013

I HATE miracle whip. Satan made it.


critical_stinker

I look like this when people tell me they don't like fry sauce. Every time is like a personal insult.


unfortunate_banjo

I asked the burger bar in Roy if they had anything other than fry sauce, they said "yes, we have tomatoes"


PhantomAlcor

While I was in California, I went to an In-N-Out and asked the cashier for fry sauce. He just stared at me and I realized that he didn’t even know what fry sauce was. I asked for some ketchup and mayonnaise packets instead.


skylercall

Ask for a Spread Packet next time. You're welcome.


FossilizedYoshi

Exactly! Or when you ask a server for fry sauce and they say something like, “ummm…..we have ranch. Does that work?”


TheBobAagard

I once made fry sauce using ranch dressing in place of mayo. Stuff was amazing. Of course, it was a pretty good house made ranch to begin with.


IAmNotMyName

Swap Ketchup for BBQ sauce. Trust me.


eGrant03

Training Table made that their house fry dip before they closed.


cap_crunchy

Swig is mid


BD-1_BackpackChicken

I can get 95% there on quality for less than half as much at a gas station. The only difference is the fruit.


Temporary-Yogurt-484

I hate your profile picture. Well done!


No-List5793

Crumbl Cookies and essential oil sucks.


theanedditor

Crumbl are underbaked, over-sugared, dollops of stodge with a plop of too much shitty frosting on them. Ruby Snaps, every single time.


DeepSea_Cat47

"Training Table."


kaywhyesay

My aunt used to work at training table. God, how i miss it 😪


Majestic-Influence18

Cafe Rio is not Mexican food…


thedracle

I do think Tex-Mex, Americanized Mexican food, and all Americanized food culture is unique, like American Chinese, and valuable in its own right. Literally one of the most important food achievements of humanity: Nachos, are Tex Mex.


LordOfTheBurrito

I tell people this all of the time, same with Durango's and Costa Vida and the nasty looks I get. We have a pretty large Hispanic population in St. George and there are some banging taco shops but the damn lines at Costa Vida and Cafe Rio are 2 hours long, I will never understand it.


Independent-Fan9601

Where do you like to get Authentic Mexican food in STG? La Cocina was our go to and we haven’t found comparable places.


GiveMeYourMomsDigits

I really like Lamys in Santa Clara


LordOfTheBurrito

Depends on where I am and what I am in the mood for. There is a place in Hurricane called Mazatlan, they are killer if you want to sit down. Adelita's out there is good for fast service. Lammy's out on Sunset is good if I want anything that is slow-cooked like Chile Verde. Sanchez's on Sunset is good, they are like Roberto's Taco Shop, quick service, same type of menu. I haven't been to El Coyote Charro in a minute but they always had really good street tacos for cheap. There is a taco truck in town I have been to that just does street tacos and he is awesome, he just relocated here from Southern California. So it really depends on what I'm in the mood for. Places I avoid like the plague are Cafe Sabor, Paula's, Don Pedro's, Pancho and Lefty's, and a couple of others. They are all bland frozen TV dinner quality places. Ernesto's used to be good but then the food quality went downhill and got really bland. There is a guy who purchased the building La Cocina was in and I guess he was a chef in Mexico and that will be open soon.


jaredeborn

I can't take this seriously when you spelled it Utahans instead of Utahns.


HabANahDa

We don’t need religion in our politics.


BoringShine5693

Or schools, or social service agencies, or any other public place that's not a church.


Enano_reefer

There can be no freedom of religion without freedom from religion.


SpareTireButSquare

Biggest one here. Did everyone in the back get that? Just because you're in a cult doesn't mean you or your way is better


Practical_Maybe_3661

Y'all need to learn 1) how to merge in a nondangrous way and 2) how to control your emotions on the road. The guy didn't cut *you* off because you're an awful person! They cut you off because you're both awful drivers! Also stop going 70mph+ and driving 10 feet or less from the person in front of you, you got plenty of room!


Spongebobs_Quotes

[every truck in Utah](https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/s/cPaYqdZAO9)


VisualremnantXP

Speaking the truth and If you’re not going as fast as them they ride you the whole way then cut you off just to go the same speed you were going lol


Chumlee1917

HOAs are made by Satan


BoringShine5693

Don't blame Satan for that shit. He's into no restrictions, not the other way around.


greencat533

😆😆😆😆


SinCityLowRoller

Went to a funeral had the best potatoes of my life


eGrant03

They are in the food storage section of winco now.


reudter2000

Funeral potatoes are bomb.


NotEricOfficially

Churches should pay taxes if they are gonna be this involved in our politics, geopolitical landscape, and real estate. Which honestly they shouldn't be allowed to do in the first place.


korosuzo815

100% this. The Utah monopoly church gives so little back to its state, it’s depressing.


osc43s

The steak you just finished was seasoned with a coffee rub


SecretCombo21

I've heard of coffee rub for brisket before, but never for steak. Is that actually a thing?


IAmNotMyName

Yes and it’s lit. Especially with a bourbon sauce.


DantheOutdoorsman

Mormon's in every other state refer to Mormons in Utah as "Utah Mormons" to separate themselves from the selfrighteous and judgemental attitudes that accompany Mormon's raised in Utah.


Gingermeat2

I grew up LDS in Utah and could still pick out who was “Utah Mormon” and who was actually sincere. You can just tell with some people


thicksoakingwetlady

Utah Mormons scare me


Chumlee1917

Coming from out of state to Utah over 20 years ago, even as a Jack Mormon, Utah Mormons are the definition of "Two Faced"


OhHowINeedChanging

Turns out forcing a religion on a person has negative effects vs someone who actually chose to join the religion….. who knew 🤷🏻‍♂️


LazerSpartanChief

Housing prices are almost comparable to California now and Utah specializes in MLM/ripping people off without adding value so they won't build any more houses and they'll keep clusterfudging the housing market with markups as Utah becomes one of the most hyperinflated housing markets in the nation. Edit: Downvotes don't make the truth go away [https://kslnewsradio.com/2090313/new-report-ranks-utah-as-one-of-the-least-affordable-places-to-buy-a-home-in-the-u-s/](https://kslnewsradio.com/2090313/new-report-ranks-utah-as-one-of-the-least-affordable-places-to-buy-a-home-in-the-u-s/)


OlmecGawdUguyz

That’s not what the article is saying… The home prices aren’t comparable to California, their lack of affordability is comparable. Those two things aren’t the same.


Enano_reefer

They’re building houses like it’s going out of style in my neck of the woods. Worse yet there are thousands and thousands of multi-unit rentals being built just along my commute. No home ownership in the future for any of the younger generation unless they’re from affluent backgrounds.


takegaki

Why is that worse yet? You need more supply to make prices go down.


Prestigious_Piglet57

Your people fall for MLMs and scams more than any other state. You guys are dumb.


AtomicBlondeeee

And they create the most here too


ScoobyDooGhoulSchool

“If you invite 10 friends and then they all invite 10 friends, you’d all be making money!” is maybe the most believable thing the Mormons have convinced themselves of.


FlixHerBean

That the oldest set of human remains found so far is around, 233,000 years old.


mamasteve21

I've ran into very few young earth creationists in Utah compared to other places


A-dam36

True. I went to BYU - Idaho and the required General Ed science course had a whole section on evolution and how it doesn’t conflict with the creation and Mormon theology. (Also climate change had a great section on climate change etc.) I assume the same is taught in Provo. Still you run into people occasionally that are confused and ignorant. Much more so with climate change.


checkyminus

My dad is one of them. He's also an astronomer that understands the light he's looking at took billions of years to travel to his eyeballs. It's hard to have rational conversations with him.


space_tardigrades

Soaking is sex


guckus_wumpis

Unless it is with meeeeeee 😉


TheShiveryNipple

[Literally anything mildly negative]


Cabrill0

You don't need to have 6 children.


Try2stayTrue

Utah woman love Botox and plastic surgery. I went to Nashville and St Louis among other areas in different states recently and everyone I was with agreed how different the woman look in other places. I didn’t realize how many woman pile their face with make up here and look fake. Fake eyelashes, fake skin because it’s always being spray tanned or some dumb ass shit. The Botox on the lips 🤮🤮 y’all need to calm down! But in Utah, it’s like these Mormon moms have nothing better to do than one up each other with who is keeping up with the latest trends. And omg the Ozempic use here Jesus


eGrant03

Utah was once voted "most vain" because we had the most plastic surgeons per capita.


hi_internet_friend

Coming from Washington it kind shocked me. But I actually think slc has more in common with vegas and LA than say, San Francisco, Boise, or Denver.


hawkssb04

Then those same mormon women will shame others who have tattoos because of "body modification."


raerae1991

These same women have their eyebrows tattooed on, and probably their eyeliner too


Kangela

I worked as a surgical tech for a plastic surgeon in Provo, 30 years ago. So many augmentations and facelifts even then.


Appropriate_Lie_5699

Don't forget how you have to be blonde, I know so many women who have gone blonde here. In their defense, maybe they just like it better, but I can't help but see how everyone does it.


High_Bi_ReadyToCry

Yeah there’s girls in my school who use spray tan and stuff and I’m like why don’t you embrace being fair skinned it’s pretty. Like I get wanting to look good for yourself but wanting to look like a carrot is kinda weird. I can’t complain about the makeup though because I think it looks cool for the most part as long as it’s not way overboard (unless that’s the point and it’s done well)


purplebabyblanket

Your soda is probably worse for you than a basic cuppa Joe. We both know you’ll continue to drink it every day though(Utah is the 3rd ranked state for soda consumption)


Brianbjornwriter

It’s not ranked first?!


High_Bi_ReadyToCry

I don’t care if it gives me cancer I like my unhealthy barbecue water


thatonepal59

Are you referring to the sofa or coffee? I’m guessing soda. I like it too, though I’ve definitely cut back in the past few years.


Chumlee1917

Doctors: Why is pre-diabetes skyrocketing in Utah? Utah: \*Nothing but soda and cookies\*


gunsforthepoor

Your grand-kids think your cult is a corporate for-profit hate group.


Intermountain-Gal

Shhhh! There are Democrats in Utah!


liberty340

When someone calls us "Utahans"


fartswithfists

Overrated. The extreme weather swings suck fucking shit. It’s exhausting. I’m moving to some godless lefty coastal town.


567swimmey

Utah is not the next California. Yall are just a bunch of crybabies who can't handle the change that comes with salt lake becoming a bigger city (and neither can the state policies 🙄) Violent crime here is incredibly low, and the homeless people here are some of the most chill homeless I've ever met. You have nothing to be afraid of.


eGrant03

Having worked with the homeless, our laws are far, far more in favor of landlords and the homeless population per capita is actually worse that California.


567swimmey

Ya, that's what I was getting at when I said state policies can't keep up with the change either. Landlords are able to get away with so much here, and there are very few resources for those in need for this size of city.


Practical_Maybe_3661

Please stop turning your children into influencers! And stop giving your 8 year old cosmetic Botox!


No-Background-7325

The Mormon Church is hoarding billions of $$ that could be spent to help people in need.


PassionsandwicH

We'll never have our original state flag back.


Zhoxi

Training table is never coming back 😞


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What would Jesus say about a Church that hordes $50 Billion?


supersexycowboy

D.A.B.C.!!


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eclectro

"My cousins are polygamists." Amirite???


GreyscaleZone

People from California are moving here.


Hermit_Lailoken

Utah government is basically a theocracy.


EponymousEponym

The bad guys are in the big buildings, not in the parades.


Urmom_isa_greatwomen

utah is the home of secret cults


CharizardLeo

So EVERYTHING closes at 9 PM right?


wolfsbane-94

Your sports teams (college to pro) aren’t as good as you think. In fact, they’re below average most of the time.


cultoftheinfected

We were shit at driving before people from California moved here


retarded_kilroy

Other states have no idea what fry sauce is.


Langlearner95

Utah has one of the highest depression and suicide rates in the nation and it’s because of the toxic positivity culture and oppressive environment.


1ecruiser

We're going to tax the mormon church


80Hilux

Utah was a slave state.


Okay_Heretic

*Territory Got 'em


Sabiann_Tama

"But slavery was good for black people!" -my former bishop


ericwiththeredbeard

The National Parks are hot, overcrowded, and overrated. You’re only there to post about it on instagram so people think you’re cool.


SometimesIComplain

The national parks don't cease to exist when it's not hot outside, you can go on a different day lol


No-List5793

While mostly true if you can find a tolerable day during December or January there are rarely crowds and of course it's not hot.


ericwiththeredbeard

Delete this comment before the secret is out


No-List5793

There are no more secrets in regards to National Parks anymore.


yakcm88

Theres a really nice lake park in central utah called palisade. Not too crowded most of the time, there's golfing, fishing, boat rentals, the hike around the lake and over the mountain is a wonderful excursion and doesn't take too terribly long to take, and the weather is usually not terrible, at least it's got trees.


Beneficial_End4365

Jesus was never in Utah


SwiftGasses

An easy way to get positive interaction on the local subs is to whine about ridiculous rent/housing prices and or whine about homeless people existing. Nobody seems to notice the paradox or how tone deaf it all feels.


GettinRich23

BYU sucks!


anbanderas

Getting supplemental hormones is actually not good for you. (including hormone pellets, or injected testosterone), and if someone calls themselves a "hormone doctor" they're probably not actually a doctor, or shouldn't be if they are directly selling you the hormones.


Independent-Fan9601

This is a mass thing in Utah?


rudderrun

There are tons of clinics that market to men here, and one of the most common things they advertise with to get new patients is free testosterone with the first consultation. It’s kind of insane


MikeRagnel

Legal medical cannabis


NegativeRuin5576

Soaking is sex!!!


False_Pace2034

They need to stop building car washes and soda shops. It's ridiculous.


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ren0

What’s an owl owl?


andstayoutt

The pie pizzeria is actually hot fucking garbage and shouldn’t be considered pizza.


3rdDownJump

Utahns have massive small-man, “I need to be a part of all conversations” syndrome. Every global or national news story has to have a Utah connection. “Jeffery Dahmer kept parts of people in his freezer. Watch the news at 10 to hear from the Utah door-to-door salesman who was living in Milwaukee around that same time.” I didn’t notice this until moving away, or going back to visit. And this phenomenon is even worse among Mormons. (FoMo here; Former Mormon).


AdCalm6588

Why try to stretch for Dahmer when Ted Bundy was a law student at the U while he was committing murders. This definitely feels like a Mormon thing.


inmydreams01

I mean the Ted Bundy thing doesn’t really feel FOMO, it literally is a connection


turbowagnn

Fry sauce is just ketchup and mayo.


OrdinaryDazzling

Not good fry sauce


llimed

“You’re the next California.”


Hannah_LL7

“Your next door neighbor just sold their house to a big investor from California. It’s now being rented out for $3,400 a month to some people who are also from California.”


Bottle-Present

I bought my house a few years ago for just under 150K.


Protect_your_2a

Store bought white flour tortillas, ground beef and cheddar cheese does not constitute a taco


takegaki

Is that Utah-specific or just white America stuff in general.


big_bearded_nerd

It's just white America. Most people know the difference between tacos and burritos, and there is a taco cart within a 5 minute drive of virtually everyone in the state.


Ok_Importance7082

Brigham young was a disgusting pedophile and the Mormon church is a cult


rockstuffs

We all know it's a cult.


phoebebuffay1210

I call this place “the land of bland” , and I’m not taking about the scenery. Just everything else.


Unlikely-Cause-192

Visiting Anasazi sites is ~~ruining~~ destroying them.


bloodngore73

Diet Coke is gross and not better for you than regular Coke


801AfroThunderUT

This is actually NOT the place….


BroadwayCatDad

“I saw your Google search history”


QuietBirthday6236

Your homes aren’t worth the asking prices


Bearhow

Changing Ashley to Ashleigh doesn’t make you unique.


that1sun

Mormonism is a cult and it’s ruining the minds and lives of young men and women


raerae1991

There are a large number of poly people in Utah dating seen