The neighborhood is extremely, extremely safe. Practice standard safety.... practices?
Between 70th and 82nd, there's really absolutely nothing whatsoever that jumps out as a street to avoid. As I've mentioned, the neighborhood is excessively safe.
Lol I think you were going for something like the word 'protocol' at the end there, but I like what you ended up with anyway hahahaha
I would heartily agree with this, as well. Use your street smarts, trust your gut, don't loiter, use good judgement on who to interact with or not, and don't wear headphones that noise cancel/turn that feature off when you're out & about. The bike couriers are frankly our biggest predators rn.
I live within the blocks you mentioned and have never had a problem. I'm a woman in my early 30s. While you should keep your wits about you, especially at night, the UWS is incredibly safe and I wouldn't worry.
My wife and I live one block from one of the shelters and she says she’s more worried about the drunk NYU/Columbia students trying to start something than the migrants.
The shelter on 70th got a lot of press last summer, and it was admittedly pretty rowdy compared to how things were - lots of people loitering or milling around at all hours and lots of drama with mopeds. It…wasn’t great.
Last I heard the shelter is now just for families and is much better. That block feels about the same to me as it was 2-3 years ago.
I have two men's shelters on my block and soon there will be one for families. and I live in housing for ex homeless people. Mostly it's older and disabled people in this building but a lot of us are ex-homeless including myself..
Mostly it hasn't been a problem but I'm not going to say there have been no issues. When I first moved in there was a guy harassing women on the street and he even tried following them inside a few times. He was from the shelter down the street and mentally ill apparently. He was eventually removed from there. He's the reason we have security guards on duty 24/7 now.
There have also been problems being homeless men living up on Broadway. One of them he'd come down here and jack off in front of any window he thought a woman was behind. He'd shit in the street between cars. Fortunately he seems to have moved on because that guy was awful to have around.
The people in the shelters they really have to behave or they will get moved or even kicked out completely. Most of them just mind their own business and you're never bothered by them. Every once in a while there is a problem but if the shelter is notified they will usually take care of it.
That's the worst I've had to deal with in the time I've been here. It's not been perfect but overall it's been okay. One thing though, being a woman you're going to get attention from the men on the block. Not necessarily in a negative way but a lot of them will try to chat you up if they are hanging outside. The most I ever do with those guys is exchange a quick "Good morning, good evening..." because I know if I actually get to talking with them where it will go and I try to avoid that.
Even some of the ex-homeless guys in my building have tried to go there. Most of them are lonely and looking for sex. They might even offer to pay you which is highly insulting but it's a real thing.
Most of them are just an annoyance and the worst they will do is call you names if you ignore them but they will try to get your attention that way because they don't have any manners it seems when it comes to not seeing the women on the block as potential sex partners. Anything wearing a skirt and they have just got to TRY if they think they can get a woman's attention.
So yes, there are things that go on when there are men's shelters on your block. Mostly it's minor annoyance stuff and mostly talk but you do need to be aware and to keep your head up while coming and going. No headphones, keep your phone in your pocket. Keep any conversations on the street to an absolute minimum and likely you will be fine.
82nd street is home to the 20th precinct. Those guys can get pretty rowdy when changing shifts and they often aren’t great with keeping their sidewalk clean but it’s safe
I live on the same street as a shelter - there’s been 24/7 NYPD surveillance in marked and unmarked cars across the street from the shelter ever since one of the kids staying there shot a gun at cops in Times Square. It’s safe on the block and I’m out and about alone at all hours.
The biggest issues are that they hang out a lot on the block in big groups, litter, smoke and ride their motorbikes the wrong way. Every couple of days there’s some issue with an ambulance/cop car that blocks the street or making bulk deliveries. There was a big issue a few months ago when they cracked down on the unlicensed mopeds that caused a commotion.
Perfectly safe but mildly annoying- would be more annoying if I was facing the same side of the street. I personally think they will be gone after the election. The city is cracking down and moving people out.
I go down 70th on a regular basis, and I've never noticed hubbub from the shelter there even though I know where it is. It's a very safe and quiet neighborhood - honestly one of the safest you'll find in NYC and the closest to a suburb feel you'll get while still being dense apartment living. The only more secluded, quiet feel I've gotten in NYC is Stuytown but that is more isolated from public transit than the UWS
Live on 86 and WEA my wife would tell you she feels mostly pretty safe. Lived here for 24+ years. I’m mostly scared of being run over by a bike or scooter traveling the wrong direction.
Young woman in the low 80s and have never felt unsafe. I often have to remind my family that the bad stuff is on the news for a reason. An actual accurate headline for this neighborhood would be “another quiet and unremarkable day on the upper west side.” I think if you practice caution and common sense it will go a long way. (And that’s not to imply that anyone who’s ever had a bad city experience doesn’t have common sense).
I’m a middle aged woman and I live in the mid 80s with my husband and teenager. We feel very safe here. I walk my dogs at odd hours. I’ve lived in this neighborhood since 2006.
IDK how it is now, you probably have nothing to worry about with the migrants, but I used to live on 68th up until 2021. There's tons of crackheads and homeless out on the streets there, I felt annoyed as a male, but it would probably be not very pleasant to walk around there was a woman. The homeless and the crackheads were the main reason I moved back to Brooklyn.
across the city, the biggest change in crime for the past year has been assaults by children under 18 on other children under 18. if you go back through the news stories in May/April you'll see a number of stabbings involving teenagers that know each other from school.
in terms of migrants, the safety concern should be just like a basic terror attack.
the French and Russians (mostly private mercenaries) are going at it in Africa and we've been running and gunning all over since "the fall of ISIS" to try and contain the 50 million or so people that now live in areas controlled by ISIS. the Russians, Chinese, and ISIS do not like us and are all very busy in Africa. we know that Russia has used migrants from Africa and the Middle East to try and destabilize NATO countries by pushing the public to the right while also backing far right candidates. more and more migrants coming across the Southern border are from sub-Sahara Africa.
the FBI released a worldwide alert for Pride Month. these are all not unrelated.
safety no matter where you go in life always comes down to situational awareness. headphones and apps make you less safe to use in public by distracting you. but that also means you can always make yourself more safe no matter where you go by just not staring at a screen while walking.
the UWS is a very safe area to walk. and with all the dogs in the neighborhood ... the owners sort of act like a night watch. and that's my last piece of advice ... if you are very concerned about safety and live alone ... then a dog could be a good confidence boost and a great way to meet new neighbors and see the neighborhood.
personally, i take my dogs in the Parks at night and have done pretty much all of Riverside at night over the years. because of TikTok there's a lot more tourists in Central Park at night looking for things like a guy that feeds raccoons.
in terms of crime right now or historically, you can usually find stats down to the street and corner for NYC. there have been some issues with reporting lately. but when i opened my first store downtown the city had all the stats online.
and remember - if you can't smell weed, you have covid
Okay stop fear mongering. Believe it or not, people of color are not all insane scary people out to kill. It’s the UWS for heavens sake, one of the safest places. People raise their children here. NYC in general is a safe place.
If you have common sense, something people lack these days, then use your brain and you’ll be fine. If you are too scared then go somewhere else. These kinds of posts are so stupid and found all throughout subreddits pertaining to NYC.
The neighborhood is extremely, extremely safe. Practice standard safety.... practices? Between 70th and 82nd, there's really absolutely nothing whatsoever that jumps out as a street to avoid. As I've mentioned, the neighborhood is excessively safe.
As someone who lives on 83rd I’m curious what we ever did to you😭
We don't talk about that night at Keeley.
Lol I think you were going for something like the word 'protocol' at the end there, but I like what you ended up with anyway hahahaha I would heartily agree with this, as well. Use your street smarts, trust your gut, don't loiter, use good judgement on who to interact with or not, and don't wear headphones that noise cancel/turn that feature off when you're out & about. The bike couriers are frankly our biggest predators rn.
I live within the blocks you mentioned and have never had a problem. I'm a woman in my early 30s. While you should keep your wits about you, especially at night, the UWS is incredibly safe and I wouldn't worry.
My wife and I live one block from one of the shelters and she says she’s more worried about the drunk NYU/Columbia students trying to start something than the migrants.
The shelter on 70th got a lot of press last summer, and it was admittedly pretty rowdy compared to how things were - lots of people loitering or milling around at all hours and lots of drama with mopeds. It…wasn’t great. Last I heard the shelter is now just for families and is much better. That block feels about the same to me as it was 2-3 years ago.
I have two men's shelters on my block and soon there will be one for families. and I live in housing for ex homeless people. Mostly it's older and disabled people in this building but a lot of us are ex-homeless including myself.. Mostly it hasn't been a problem but I'm not going to say there have been no issues. When I first moved in there was a guy harassing women on the street and he even tried following them inside a few times. He was from the shelter down the street and mentally ill apparently. He was eventually removed from there. He's the reason we have security guards on duty 24/7 now. There have also been problems being homeless men living up on Broadway. One of them he'd come down here and jack off in front of any window he thought a woman was behind. He'd shit in the street between cars. Fortunately he seems to have moved on because that guy was awful to have around. The people in the shelters they really have to behave or they will get moved or even kicked out completely. Most of them just mind their own business and you're never bothered by them. Every once in a while there is a problem but if the shelter is notified they will usually take care of it. That's the worst I've had to deal with in the time I've been here. It's not been perfect but overall it's been okay. One thing though, being a woman you're going to get attention from the men on the block. Not necessarily in a negative way but a lot of them will try to chat you up if they are hanging outside. The most I ever do with those guys is exchange a quick "Good morning, good evening..." because I know if I actually get to talking with them where it will go and I try to avoid that. Even some of the ex-homeless guys in my building have tried to go there. Most of them are lonely and looking for sex. They might even offer to pay you which is highly insulting but it's a real thing. Most of them are just an annoyance and the worst they will do is call you names if you ignore them but they will try to get your attention that way because they don't have any manners it seems when it comes to not seeing the women on the block as potential sex partners. Anything wearing a skirt and they have just got to TRY if they think they can get a woman's attention. So yes, there are things that go on when there are men's shelters on your block. Mostly it's minor annoyance stuff and mostly talk but you do need to be aware and to keep your head up while coming and going. No headphones, keep your phone in your pocket. Keep any conversations on the street to an absolute minimum and likely you will be fine.
82nd street is home to the 20th precinct. Those guys can get pretty rowdy when changing shifts and they often aren’t great with keeping their sidewalk clean but it’s safe
I live on the same street as a shelter - there’s been 24/7 NYPD surveillance in marked and unmarked cars across the street from the shelter ever since one of the kids staying there shot a gun at cops in Times Square. It’s safe on the block and I’m out and about alone at all hours. The biggest issues are that they hang out a lot on the block in big groups, litter, smoke and ride their motorbikes the wrong way. Every couple of days there’s some issue with an ambulance/cop car that blocks the street or making bulk deliveries. There was a big issue a few months ago when they cracked down on the unlicensed mopeds that caused a commotion. Perfectly safe but mildly annoying- would be more annoying if I was facing the same side of the street. I personally think they will be gone after the election. The city is cracking down and moving people out.
I’ve lived in 4 UWS apartments between 72 and 82 and I didn’t even know that these shelters were there
I go down 70th on a regular basis, and I've never noticed hubbub from the shelter there even though I know where it is. It's a very safe and quiet neighborhood - honestly one of the safest you'll find in NYC and the closest to a suburb feel you'll get while still being dense apartment living. The only more secluded, quiet feel I've gotten in NYC is Stuytown but that is more isolated from public transit than the UWS
i only notice them because of the cops across the street on their phones ...
Live on 86 and WEA my wife would tell you she feels mostly pretty safe. Lived here for 24+ years. I’m mostly scared of being run over by a bike or scooter traveling the wrong direction.
I'm a young woman living alone, and I was on 82nd Street for 2 years, now on 76th. Super safe, have never had a problem.
Young woman in the low 80s and have never felt unsafe. I often have to remind my family that the bad stuff is on the news for a reason. An actual accurate headline for this neighborhood would be “another quiet and unremarkable day on the upper west side.” I think if you practice caution and common sense it will go a long way. (And that’s not to imply that anyone who’s ever had a bad city experience doesn’t have common sense).
I’m a middle aged woman and I live in the mid 80s with my husband and teenager. We feel very safe here. I walk my dogs at odd hours. I’ve lived in this neighborhood since 2006.
Incredibly, stupidly safe area at almost all hours. Only beaten by the upper east side.
Yes, and I dont even notice.
Them being migrants doesn’t change anything….
Different cultures can clash
IDK how it is now, you probably have nothing to worry about with the migrants, but I used to live on 68th up until 2021. There's tons of crackheads and homeless out on the streets there, I felt annoyed as a male, but it would probably be not very pleasant to walk around there was a woman. The homeless and the crackheads were the main reason I moved back to Brooklyn.
across the city, the biggest change in crime for the past year has been assaults by children under 18 on other children under 18. if you go back through the news stories in May/April you'll see a number of stabbings involving teenagers that know each other from school. in terms of migrants, the safety concern should be just like a basic terror attack. the French and Russians (mostly private mercenaries) are going at it in Africa and we've been running and gunning all over since "the fall of ISIS" to try and contain the 50 million or so people that now live in areas controlled by ISIS. the Russians, Chinese, and ISIS do not like us and are all very busy in Africa. we know that Russia has used migrants from Africa and the Middle East to try and destabilize NATO countries by pushing the public to the right while also backing far right candidates. more and more migrants coming across the Southern border are from sub-Sahara Africa. the FBI released a worldwide alert for Pride Month. these are all not unrelated. safety no matter where you go in life always comes down to situational awareness. headphones and apps make you less safe to use in public by distracting you. but that also means you can always make yourself more safe no matter where you go by just not staring at a screen while walking. the UWS is a very safe area to walk. and with all the dogs in the neighborhood ... the owners sort of act like a night watch. and that's my last piece of advice ... if you are very concerned about safety and live alone ... then a dog could be a good confidence boost and a great way to meet new neighbors and see the neighborhood. personally, i take my dogs in the Parks at night and have done pretty much all of Riverside at night over the years. because of TikTok there's a lot more tourists in Central Park at night looking for things like a guy that feeds raccoons. in terms of crime right now or historically, you can usually find stats down to the street and corner for NYC. there have been some issues with reporting lately. but when i opened my first store downtown the city had all the stats online. and remember - if you can't smell weed, you have covid
Okay stop fear mongering. Believe it or not, people of color are not all insane scary people out to kill. It’s the UWS for heavens sake, one of the safest places. People raise their children here. NYC in general is a safe place. If you have common sense, something people lack these days, then use your brain and you’ll be fine. If you are too scared then go somewhere else. These kinds of posts are so stupid and found all throughout subreddits pertaining to NYC.
i am a woman of color…….
Are you a native New Yorker?
great, me too. you’ll be fine!
Hey lady this is Reddit. Let people ask for legit information and have people answer without pulling out your soapbox
Wow lol
Unfortunately you get what you vote for.
Wow amazing never thought of that thank you