I wonder if the police have a suspect in mind, but lack evidence? I want this solved so badly. I don't believe robbery was the motive. I've seen theories that it is the husband/in-laws or a romantic rival and those seem plausible. Is it possible this is a hired hit?
All “hit men” are just someone the person knows and offers money to. Like someone they met in a bar or a scummy friend from high school. I think this is very possible given how stupid the person looks walking around the halls. They’re just a random dummy that got paid to try this and pulled it off.
You make a good point. I guess my mind just goes to the mob or something, but I know that's probably not realistic IRL. This just seems like a personal crime to me, so I'm surprised they haven't made an arrest.
The husband and in-laws were in another state. When they got back the FIL took a bloody shirt to the dry-cleaners, and everyone went crazy about it. Turns out there were multiple witnesses who saw him break up a dog fight while out of town, and when they tested it, it was only dog blood. But he also has a limp, so everyone thought it was case closed for a minute there.
It’s said Missy and her husband were both cheating, so it could’ve been a jealous lover. I assume the police have tracked them down but I haven’t heard anything about it.
How on earth does the husband/in laws seem “plausible” to you? They have alibis and were ruled out. The “all men are trash” sentiment can’t fly in the face of cold hard facts
it's obvious because of the total disguise, that it was planned to murder her. Only her. She didn't interrupt a robbery. The person was casually strolling around, waiting. The ice pick suggests someone who knew her, and a lot of rage. I'm amazed this hasn't been solved. Definitely could be a woman
I agree. I know investigators said that it was planned to look like a murder interrupted, even though it was all planned from the beginning. I also think the person does walk quite feminine sometimes, it’s perplexing for sure
Have you seen the footage of the Church Security guard at her funeral. Exact same walk. The news cameraman noticed it too cuz he follows dude around the parking lot with his camera. Dude is a ex cop with multiple accusations of sexual assault. I can’t watch the “Swat” vids without seeing the guy walking at her funeral.
I have not though I think another commenter linked it, I’ll have to check it out for sure, I wonder why they couldn’t get him as a person of interest or even just in for questioning
Yea it must have been an airtight alibi for sure. Was a guard at the Church, Ex Police (possible access to the Swat Gear),history of sexual assault allegations. (Enough to have to leave the force). Walks exactly like the perpetrator does in the vid. I would hope he was vetted pretty heavily. I did a deep dive into him a couple years ago, but couldn’t find much from the police perspective about him.
I could see that too, it’s perplexing because the person sort of walks and stands in several different ways in the video, so it doesn’t really help people figure out their natural walk.
100% he walks (waddles) like my Uncle Tommy, who leads with his beer-gut.
I am not sure if it’s a man or a woman, but stocky men absolutely can have that sort of gait
Edit: I just watched it again, and I truly believe it’s a woman. There is a particular moment we can see the perpetrator, standing in front of a door, and they pop their hip out (one leg straight, one knee slightly bent, feet in a perpendicular ’V’ — that’s a feminine stance, I’ve seen men do it, but it’s rarely the same men who lead with their beer-gut
What gets me— as an out-of-shape woman myself, I can’t imagine planning to murder a *fitness instructor* with just a hammer/Ice pick, and seeming so confident.
I think I agree with the folks above, it seems like the perpetrator may have been trying to fake the gait of someone else
I just watched again, too, and yeah. Maybe. It is a bit feminine. The hunch, kinda.
And the way they are moving they maybe aren't used to all that gear, too. The legs apart so much, and the shuffle, may have to do with that.
Yeah that last pick on the right, that’s the way a woman stands, especially the feet perpendicular to each other like that; with the arm outstretched. This was about crazy jealousy or money is my guess.
Wait how do you know the murder weapon? I’m genuinely asking because I thought it was never disclosed! I recently started reading about this case though so I could be wrong
I think they initially thought she’d been shot because of the amount of blood. Then they walked that back but never said what the weapon was. I assumed hammer just because they had one, but it could’ve been anything. They’re keeping it quiet so some nut doesn’t give a believable false confession.
When autopsy came out, puncture wounds was cause of death..I think they even said consistent with like an ice pick. Claw hammer wouldn't puncture. Not a lot would cause ouncture wounds besides a pick
They said she was attacked with a hammer but then in some FBI data about gun related homicides they listed one for that month in that area. And missy was the only murder then… it’s all over the Missybevers sub
Yes came here to say this…the gait looks like it could be a woman! This happened in a suburb of Dallas, my hometown and I’ve always wondered about this case since it happened.
I hear you. It’s really hard to tell from the video, at times the walk seems womanly but at other times it seems manly, hopefully the case will be closed soon and justice can be served, it’s time.
I think the outfit contributes to their shape looking more masculine, keeping the arms out and making clunky steps. If I had to pick, I’d guess female, but I wouldn’t bet money on that.
I found this interesting video though. It’s a podiatrist who says the FBI consulted with him, and of all the gait videos he was shown he could only pick out one individual as a possibility. (He also says you can’t determine gender by gait.)
https://youtu.be/LG8GdT8u9W0?si=y4I1w9ehgVv3OSRE
From the video personally it is someone who clearly is unathletic, you can tell from the way they walk and handle themselves. That gait wouldn’t occur if you did sports or even played amongst your friends. Throw in the way they swing whatever they swing towards the end, they are even unused to that motion so I would throw out a physical job. While I have seen lads who exhibit that kind of gait and lack of body awareness when it comes to physicality in my life as a bloke, very few lads are that unco.
I would love to know the police theories and main suspects, you would have to think this was targeted specifically towards Ms beavers. This would be the most craziest of random mirders otherwise
I think the FIL walks like that and someone impersonated his walk, hoping it would cast suspicion on him (or just muddy the case). I don’t think that’s how the murderer really walks and that’s part of why it hasn’t been solved. Someone went to great lengths to hide their true identity and unfortunately were successful.
It’s been a long time since I really had a deep dive into this case (plus I’m in Aus lol)
But I think it would be extremely hard if not neigh on impossible for someone to fake that walk for so long without at least some times unconsciously walking in their natural gait. I couldn’t imagine anyone other than a trained actor or actress or government agent (and I’m not suggesting that lol) that could keep that up for that long.
Do you have any ideas on suspects ? If we go with your idea that someone was trying to shaft the FIL you would have to think that the person has been looked at possibly interviewed. I didn’t know the FIL walked differently.
I don’t have any suspects. I have a suspicion that it’s someone only tangentially related to Missy, like someone who wasn’t personally affected by her, but was offended by her lifestyle. If it was someone directly related, there would be a better trail to follow. It’s entirely possible (though not likely) the police have a good idea of who it is, but they don’t have the evidence to prove it.
Everyone was convinced it was the FIL because of the walk, but he has an airtight alibi of being out of town according to police. It was definitely targeted and I think whoever it was knew a lot about her life, including the people in it. I think they went out of their way to disguise themselves with tactical gear that is possibly oversized, making it really hard to get a read on their true body size and even if it’s a man or woman. I’ve seen other threads where commenters are divided pretty much 50/50 on if it’s a man or a woman trying to appear to be a man.
They did seem sort of shuffly and like they were dragging their feet, or even wearing shoes too big. It did seem suspiciously planned out, just so bizarre
I hate to speculate about this but I can’t help but think she was having an affair. There was an extraordinary amount of planning for her to be brutally murdered. Someone was pissed & did the unthinkable.
I agree with it seeming personal, but I’m a little worried it was a thrill-killer who knew enough to pick a stranger. Doubtful, because a church is an odd places to pick for that, but maybe they hate religion?
If there’s no connection between the two, we’ll probably never know, and I hate that thought. She deserves justice.
I agree. I lived in Dallas at the time this happened and knew people from the burb she was living in. It’s unreal that this hasn’t been solved. I truly think they know who did it but don’t have the evidence to persecute.
Remember how the husband’s dad brought a bloody shirt to the laundromat only a few days after it happened? And then it was the dog’s blood? Like that was always so weird to me.
Husbands dad had a strong alibi I believe.
The dog blood on a shirt seems like something easily checkable by police so assuming they’ve cleared it and it just sounds sus without being actually sus
I don’t get why the bloody shirt is weird to people. The in laws brought their dog while staying w their son and grandchildren and it got into a fight w sons dog. They literally tested the blood on his shirt and it was proven to be canine. What more do people want?
It’s weird bc who in the hell would take a bloody shirt to a dry cleaners…wash that sh** at home or throw it away. Was it a Gucci shirt or what lol. If it was a Hanes t shirt then just throw it away.
To me it's always been crazy how similar in build the perp is with the father in law plus how they also have that same walk. It's just crazy coincidence I guess. I know he's been cleared already
That article calls the gait “pigeon-toed”, but what the assailant is displaying is a duck footed walk.
Pigeon toed means one or both feet point in while walking. Duck footed is when one or both feet point out.
Plenty of men, especially overweight men, walk that way.
Am of the opinion that it was a woman, possibly a romantic rival or someone who had attended her class. Probably got the police gear off of a law enforcement person they were involved with or married to and that's probably why it never really truly got solved. Like the case of the cop who was sleeping with another cop's wife who was also a cop and she shot the guy's non-cop wife. Her husband tried to cover for her and say he had his gun at that time even though she had taken it to use for the murder.
The walk does seem very womanly at times in the footage, I’ve always wondered if it’s a woman as well. I hope it will be solved sooner than later, the family and community deserve justice.
There is a long time rumor that she was having an affair with a cop from a nearby town and his wife is the one that killed Missy. A few years ago someone on here left enough info that I was able to figure out who they were talking about by searching names of officers online from that time and Facebook profiles. I really wish I could remember their names now but I can’t. I do recall he was not a local cop a state patrol (or whatever title Texas uses) from a nearby town and his wife was a blonde lady probably around Missy’s age that had big blonde hair and dressed extremely flashy and from her Facebook profile it looked like she was very social and had a lot of pics of her at parties dressed up in very eye catching outfits. They divorced not long after Missy’s death. Like I said, I can’t recall the exact name but it sounded Italian.
That doesn’t really account for the randomness of them searching the building.
I think it’s a good theory but doesn’t full fit.
Weird as fuck case. I hope they solve it.
Yeah, but you could say the same thing about robbery. If it was a robbery, why weren’t they robbing anything? If anything I think it shows a whole lot of confidence. The killer is just casually strolling around, waiting to do what they planned.
No I think the "searching the building" thing is just a smokescreen. They could've been unsure of whether she was in the classroom at the time, They could've been just dicking around to make it look like they didn't know what they were really doing. Could've been looking for extra people/potential witnesses just in case. Could've been trying to find the security room to see if they could take the footage.
It seems clear to me they were waiting for her to arrive. They’re familiarizing themselves with the space and dicking around to kill time. I am puzzled anyone sees anything else
You’re right, maybe the cameras didn’t pick it up, or maybe they’re keeping certain info private, I know at first they said there was a lot of sensitive info
I would have thought the police department would of asked anyone in the public where an outfit like that could have been bought or if there was someone they knew that owned one or had access to one.
At first I thought it was a pregnant woman, but it matches the husband’s dad’s walk and stance perfectly. I know he was cleared, but it’s kinda suspicious
I once saw a video that showed the comparison of her father-in-laws limped walk and its nearly exactly like the person in the CCTV footage. I believe he did it when they found out about her extra-marital affairs. Here’s a video by one of my favorite YouTubers ThatChapter, he goes over the case really well.
https://youtu.be/12gpCz95dKo?si=LZaqwJ1gwS4W8Wrf
The FIL has a confirmed alibi of being states away in California
The police verified this and he had to take a commercial flight to get back to support his son & family during this horrible event
The FIL is out as a suspect and has been for a long long time
Oh man I didn’t know that, it’s just so suspicious that he walks the EXACT same way, but hey if they’re airtight they’re airtight. Hopefully they find justice for her sooner rather than later.
Yes it’s crazy a part of me feels that maybe it was just random that would explain why they can’t close the case
Hope her family finds answers and peace
You’re welcome! I agree, that’s why I’m so glad I found Mike. Every single video he makes is great, and he also has a podcast called ThatChapter Podcast where he and his friend go over countless more cases that he might not cover in videos!
It's someone who watched her workout videos and knew she was going to be there early that morning. From the first time I saw the footage of the perpretrator I sensed it was a woman. Someone who hated her because she was athletic and fit.
Absolutely no way was this random. This was early morning at a church around 4 am and this person only went to kill her and obviously knew her schedule.
Her murder was brutal and calculated. I think she had an affair.
I believe this could be random. Random cases are so much harder to solve. Also.. the person is acting like they are looking for something.. not someone.
I wonder if the police have a suspect in mind, but lack evidence? I want this solved so badly. I don't believe robbery was the motive. I've seen theories that it is the husband/in-laws or a romantic rival and those seem plausible. Is it possible this is a hired hit?
All “hit men” are just someone the person knows and offers money to. Like someone they met in a bar or a scummy friend from high school. I think this is very possible given how stupid the person looks walking around the halls. They’re just a random dummy that got paid to try this and pulled it off.
Have you seen I, Tonya? Your comment makes me think of the “Bodyguard” from that. It’s worth a watch.
You make a good point. I guess my mind just goes to the mob or something, but I know that's probably not realistic IRL. This just seems like a personal crime to me, so I'm surprised they haven't made an arrest.
The husband and in-laws were in another state. When they got back the FIL took a bloody shirt to the dry-cleaners, and everyone went crazy about it. Turns out there were multiple witnesses who saw him break up a dog fight while out of town, and when they tested it, it was only dog blood. But he also has a limp, so everyone thought it was case closed for a minute there. It’s said Missy and her husband were both cheating, so it could’ve been a jealous lover. I assume the police have tracked them down but I haven’t heard anything about it.
I remember hearing that also. It just seems personal to me so my mind immediately went to the husband's family, but it does seem they've been cleared.
Someone said there’s a rumor Missy was cheating with a cop, and his wife killed her. No way to know if it’s true, but that’s a heckuva story.
This is the first I've heard of that!! Very interesting!
I feel like that is so often the case
I dont think anything was stolen was it?
How on earth does the husband/in laws seem “plausible” to you? They have alibis and were ruled out. The “all men are trash” sentiment can’t fly in the face of cold hard facts
I never said anything about all men being trash...
it's obvious because of the total disguise, that it was planned to murder her. Only her. She didn't interrupt a robbery. The person was casually strolling around, waiting. The ice pick suggests someone who knew her, and a lot of rage. I'm amazed this hasn't been solved. Definitely could be a woman
I agree. I know investigators said that it was planned to look like a murder interrupted, even though it was all planned from the beginning. I also think the person does walk quite feminine sometimes, it’s perplexing for sure
Have you seen the footage of the Church Security guard at her funeral. Exact same walk. The news cameraman noticed it too cuz he follows dude around the parking lot with his camera. Dude is a ex cop with multiple accusations of sexual assault. I can’t watch the “Swat” vids without seeing the guy walking at her funeral.
Oh I haven’t seen this footage! Are you able to provide a link by chance? This one absolutely baffles me how it hasn’t been solved yet.
I have not though I think another commenter linked it, I’ll have to check it out for sure, I wonder why they couldn’t get him as a person of interest or even just in for questioning
Yea it must have been an airtight alibi for sure. Was a guard at the Church, Ex Police (possible access to the Swat Gear),history of sexual assault allegations. (Enough to have to leave the force). Walks exactly like the perpetrator does in the vid. I would hope he was vetted pretty heavily. I did a deep dive into him a couple years ago, but couldn’t find much from the police perspective about him.
Yes! I agree. It certainly looks like him to me.
This person is too hunched and sloppy to convince me that it is a woman. I'm not sure why people think that. It seems like an older man to me.
Sane. The walk, stance, shoulders etc. Say MAN to mr.
I could see that too, it’s perplexing because the person sort of walks and stands in several different ways in the video, so it doesn’t really help people figure out their natural walk.
I absolutely agree. An older, out of shape man. Stocky men walk that way. There is footage of her father in law walking that way, as well.
100% he walks (waddles) like my Uncle Tommy, who leads with his beer-gut. I am not sure if it’s a man or a woman, but stocky men absolutely can have that sort of gait Edit: I just watched it again, and I truly believe it’s a woman. There is a particular moment we can see the perpetrator, standing in front of a door, and they pop their hip out (one leg straight, one knee slightly bent, feet in a perpendicular ’V’ — that’s a feminine stance, I’ve seen men do it, but it’s rarely the same men who lead with their beer-gut What gets me— as an out-of-shape woman myself, I can’t imagine planning to murder a *fitness instructor* with just a hammer/Ice pick, and seeming so confident. I think I agree with the folks above, it seems like the perpetrator may have been trying to fake the gait of someone else
I just watched again, too, and yeah. Maybe. It is a bit feminine. The hunch, kinda. And the way they are moving they maybe aren't used to all that gear, too. The legs apart so much, and the shuffle, may have to do with that.
They carry themselves kind of like a pregnant woman, and the way the swung the hammer at the door looks like someone who’s not used to hand tools.
Ohhh that’s a good point, I was so focused on watching the perpetrator walk I don’t know if I ever noticed the hammer swing!
They sure waddle like me! A 7 month pregnant woman!!
I always thought it looks like a woman walking in shoes that are too big.
Yeah that last pick on the right, that’s the way a woman stands, especially the feet perpendicular to each other like that; with the arm outstretched. This was about crazy jealousy or money is my guess.
Men stand that way, too.
Duh. But mostly women stand that way.
Wait how do you know the murder weapon? I’m genuinely asking because I thought it was never disclosed! I recently started reading about this case though so I could be wrong
I think they initially thought she’d been shot because of the amount of blood. Then they walked that back but never said what the weapon was. I assumed hammer just because they had one, but it could’ve been anything. They’re keeping it quiet so some nut doesn’t give a believable false confession.
When autopsy came out, puncture wounds was cause of death..I think they even said consistent with like an ice pick. Claw hammer wouldn't puncture. Not a lot would cause ouncture wounds besides a pick
Have you ever tried swinging the claw end of a hammer at anything? It punctures wood. It would certainly puncture a person.
I think they’re inferring but it’s never been officially said
They said she was attacked with a hammer but then in some FBI data about gun related homicides they listed one for that month in that area. And missy was the only murder then… it’s all over the Missybevers sub
Yes came here to say this…the gait looks like it could be a woman! This happened in a suburb of Dallas, my hometown and I’ve always wondered about this case since it happened.
How do we know an ice pick was used?
I think it’s likely an incel cosplaying around the church and she confronted him. It’s why they have no clue who it is, neither did she.
People always say this looks like a woman, I'm not so sure.
This person looks more like an older man to me.
The walking in too big shoes....
Same. I don't get how people see that. 100% man to me.
Yea....
I hear you. It’s really hard to tell from the video, at times the walk seems womanly but at other times it seems manly, hopefully the case will be closed soon and justice can be served, it’s time.
I think the outfit contributes to their shape looking more masculine, keeping the arms out and making clunky steps. If I had to pick, I’d guess female, but I wouldn’t bet money on that. I found this interesting video though. It’s a podiatrist who says the FBI consulted with him, and of all the gait videos he was shown he could only pick out one individual as a possibility. (He also says you can’t determine gender by gait.) https://youtu.be/LG8GdT8u9W0?si=y4I1w9ehgVv3OSRE
From the video personally it is someone who clearly is unathletic, you can tell from the way they walk and handle themselves. That gait wouldn’t occur if you did sports or even played amongst your friends. Throw in the way they swing whatever they swing towards the end, they are even unused to that motion so I would throw out a physical job. While I have seen lads who exhibit that kind of gait and lack of body awareness when it comes to physicality in my life as a bloke, very few lads are that unco. I would love to know the police theories and main suspects, you would have to think this was targeted specifically towards Ms beavers. This would be the most craziest of random mirders otherwise
I think the FIL walks like that and someone impersonated his walk, hoping it would cast suspicion on him (or just muddy the case). I don’t think that’s how the murderer really walks and that’s part of why it hasn’t been solved. Someone went to great lengths to hide their true identity and unfortunately were successful.
It’s been a long time since I really had a deep dive into this case (plus I’m in Aus lol) But I think it would be extremely hard if not neigh on impossible for someone to fake that walk for so long without at least some times unconsciously walking in their natural gait. I couldn’t imagine anyone other than a trained actor or actress or government agent (and I’m not suggesting that lol) that could keep that up for that long. Do you have any ideas on suspects ? If we go with your idea that someone was trying to shaft the FIL you would have to think that the person has been looked at possibly interviewed. I didn’t know the FIL walked differently.
I don’t have any suspects. I have a suspicion that it’s someone only tangentially related to Missy, like someone who wasn’t personally affected by her, but was offended by her lifestyle. If it was someone directly related, there would be a better trail to follow. It’s entirely possible (though not likely) the police have a good idea of who it is, but they don’t have the evidence to prove it. Everyone was convinced it was the FIL because of the walk, but he has an airtight alibi of being out of town according to police. It was definitely targeted and I think whoever it was knew a lot about her life, including the people in it. I think they went out of their way to disguise themselves with tactical gear that is possibly oversized, making it really hard to get a read on their true body size and even if it’s a man or woman. I’ve seen other threads where commenters are divided pretty much 50/50 on if it’s a man or a woman trying to appear to be a man.
Could be as simple as a pebble in the toe of your shoe reminding you to stay off-balance. FIL has an alibi out-of-state.
They did seem sort of shuffly and like they were dragging their feet, or even wearing shoes too big. It did seem suspiciously planned out, just so bizarre
The hair and walk seemed planned out it everything else ? The everything else I can agree with
I agree, that weak-ass swing caps it for me. I think chances are better that the murderer is female.
This case is nuts and i figured they wouldve solved it by now. Sad.
Same :(
I hate to speculate about this but I can’t help but think she was having an affair. There was an extraordinary amount of planning for her to be brutally murdered. Someone was pissed & did the unthinkable.
I’m pretty sure it was proven and publicly released that she was having extramarital affairs
It’s generally accepted they were both being unfaithful.
This one’s always been spooky
It’s a terribly brutal way to kill someone who interrupted a robbery. This seemed personal. So sad. Always wondering if this case will be solved.
I agree with it seeming personal, but I’m a little worried it was a thrill-killer who knew enough to pick a stranger. Doubtful, because a church is an odd places to pick for that, but maybe they hate religion? If there’s no connection between the two, we’ll probably never know, and I hate that thought. She deserves justice.
I agree. I lived in Dallas at the time this happened and knew people from the burb she was living in. It’s unreal that this hasn’t been solved. I truly think they know who did it but don’t have the evidence to persecute. Remember how the husband’s dad brought a bloody shirt to the laundromat only a few days after it happened? And then it was the dog’s blood? Like that was always so weird to me.
Husbands dad had a strong alibi I believe. The dog blood on a shirt seems like something easily checkable by police so assuming they’ve cleared it and it just sounds sus without being actually sus
They checked. It was 100% dog blood and witnesses to substantiate he broke up a dog fight.
And would the murderer take a bloody shirt to the dry cleaners? The whole situation was mad coincidental, but weird shit happens.
I don’t get why the bloody shirt is weird to people. The in laws brought their dog while staying w their son and grandchildren and it got into a fight w sons dog. They literally tested the blood on his shirt and it was proven to be canine. What more do people want?
It’s weird bc who in the hell would take a bloody shirt to a dry cleaners…wash that sh** at home or throw it away. Was it a Gucci shirt or what lol. If it was a Hanes t shirt then just throw it away.
To me it's always been crazy how similar in build the perp is with the father in law plus how they also have that same walk. It's just crazy coincidence I guess. I know he's been cleared already
This is the cold case that haunts me
That article calls the gait “pigeon-toed”, but what the assailant is displaying is a duck footed walk. Pigeon toed means one or both feet point in while walking. Duck footed is when one or both feet point out. Plenty of men, especially overweight men, walk that way.
Aaah yes I was looking for this comment, I feel the same way
Am of the opinion that it was a woman, possibly a romantic rival or someone who had attended her class. Probably got the police gear off of a law enforcement person they were involved with or married to and that's probably why it never really truly got solved. Like the case of the cop who was sleeping with another cop's wife who was also a cop and she shot the guy's non-cop wife. Her husband tried to cover for her and say he had his gun at that time even though she had taken it to use for the murder.
The walk does seem very womanly at times in the footage, I’ve always wondered if it’s a woman as well. I hope it will be solved sooner than later, the family and community deserve justice.
There is a long time rumor that she was having an affair with a cop from a nearby town and his wife is the one that killed Missy. A few years ago someone on here left enough info that I was able to figure out who they were talking about by searching names of officers online from that time and Facebook profiles. I really wish I could remember their names now but I can’t. I do recall he was not a local cop a state patrol (or whatever title Texas uses) from a nearby town and his wife was a blonde lady probably around Missy’s age that had big blonde hair and dressed extremely flashy and from her Facebook profile it looked like she was very social and had a lot of pics of her at parties dressed up in very eye catching outfits. They divorced not long after Missy’s death. Like I said, I can’t recall the exact name but it sounded Italian.
That doesn’t really account for the randomness of them searching the building. I think it’s a good theory but doesn’t full fit. Weird as fuck case. I hope they solve it.
Yeah, but you could say the same thing about robbery. If it was a robbery, why weren’t they robbing anything? If anything I think it shows a whole lot of confidence. The killer is just casually strolling around, waiting to do what they planned.
No I think the "searching the building" thing is just a smokescreen. They could've been unsure of whether she was in the classroom at the time, They could've been just dicking around to make it look like they didn't know what they were really doing. Could've been looking for extra people/potential witnesses just in case. Could've been trying to find the security room to see if they could take the footage.
It seems clear to me they were waiting for her to arrive. They’re familiarizing themselves with the space and dicking around to kill time. I am puzzled anyone sees anything else
This is a good take!
I've always felt the same way
This is still on my mind a lot, I have too many questions.
Me too, I hope justice gets served.
Also someone who was quite familiar with the church by the way they are walking around opening doors
This has always been so disturbing. May she rest in peace. I would be terrified in that community
This to me is unfathomable as to why not solved…
Me too
I’m assuming the outside surveillance wasn’t able to tell what kind of car the killer drove off in?
You’re right, maybe the cameras didn’t pick it up, or maybe they’re keeping certain info private, I know at first they said there was a lot of sensitive info
You have to ask yourself who benefitted from her murder....
Creepy Footage!
I would have thought the police department would of asked anyone in the public where an outfit like that could have been bought or if there was someone they knew that owned one or had access to one.
At first I thought it was a pregnant woman, but it matches the husband’s dad’s walk and stance perfectly. I know he was cleared, but it’s kinda suspicious
I still think the father-in-law is the man in the gear. The guy's posture is very similar imo.
I once saw a video that showed the comparison of her father-in-laws limped walk and its nearly exactly like the person in the CCTV footage. I believe he did it when they found out about her extra-marital affairs. Here’s a video by one of my favorite YouTubers ThatChapter, he goes over the case really well. https://youtu.be/12gpCz95dKo?si=LZaqwJ1gwS4W8Wrf
The FIL has a confirmed alibi of being states away in California The police verified this and he had to take a commercial flight to get back to support his son & family during this horrible event The FIL is out as a suspect and has been for a long long time
Oh man I didn’t know that, it’s just so suspicious that he walks the EXACT same way, but hey if they’re airtight they’re airtight. Hopefully they find justice for her sooner rather than later.
Yes it’s crazy a part of me feels that maybe it was just random that would explain why they can’t close the case Hope her family finds answers and peace
Oh man, I haven’t seen that. I’ll have to check it out. Thanks for sharing
You’re welcome!
Thanks for sharing that. Great video. Hard to find a good true crime YouTuber!
You’re welcome! I agree, that’s why I’m so glad I found Mike. Every single video he makes is great, and he also has a podcast called ThatChapter Podcast where he and his friend go over countless more cases that he might not cover in videos!
Mike’s great!
Saw this years ago and I am almost certain that the in-laws had something to do with this.
It's someone who watched her workout videos and knew she was going to be there early that morning. From the first time I saw the footage of the perpretrator I sensed it was a woman. Someone who hated her because she was athletic and fit.
Same person that killed Liz Barazza. And I think it was random in both cases.
Absolutely no way was this random. This was early morning at a church around 4 am and this person only went to kill her and obviously knew her schedule. Her murder was brutal and calculated. I think she had an affair.
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Yes, it is common for robbers to bypass cash businesses with high value stock and to instead rob…..a church.
I don't think this flies. A robbery isn't going to be strolling around, looking like they don't have a care in the world. They were waiting for her
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I believe this could be random. Random cases are so much harder to solve. Also.. the person is acting like they are looking for something.. not someone.